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Tom_Joad 02/21/25 7:21:52 AM #1:	https://foreignpolicy.com/2025/02/21/yes-america-is-europes-enemy-now/ A few weeks ago, I warned that the second Trump administration might be squandering the tolerance and good will that Washington had long received from the worlds major democracies. Instead of seeing the United States as a mostly positive force in world affairs, these states might now have to worry that the United States is actively malevolent. That column was written before Vice President J.D. Vance gave his confrontational speech at the Munich Security Conference, before President Donald Trump blamed Ukraine for starting the war with Russia, and before U.S. officials appeared to preemptively offer Russia almost everything it wants before negotiations on Ukraine were even underway. The reaction of mainstream European observers was neatly summed up by Gideon Rachman in the Financial Times: [T]he Trump administrations political ambitions for Europe mean that, for now, America is also an adversary. Is this view correct? A skeptic might recall that there have been serious rifts in the transatlantic partnership on many prior occasions: over Suez in 1956, over nuclear strategy and Vietnam in the 1960s, over the Euromissiles issue in the 1980s, and during the Kosovo war in 1999. The Iraq war in 2003 was yet another low-water mark between Washington and much of Europe. The United States did not hesitate to act unilaterally on numerous occasions, even when its allies interests were adversely affected, as Richard Nixon did when he took the United States off the gold standard in 1971 or as Joe Biden did when he signed the protectionist Inflation Reduction Act and the United States forced European firms to stop some high-tech exports to China. But few Europeans or Canadians believed the United States was deliberately trying to harm them; they believed that Washington was genuinely committed to their security and understood that its own security and prosperity was tied to their own. They were right, which made it much easier for the United States to win their support when necessary. A few weeks ago, I warned that the second Trump administration might be squandering the tolerance and good will that Washington had long received from the worlds major democracies. Instead of seeing the United States as a mostly positive force in world affairs, these states might now have to worry that the United States is actively malevolent. That column was written before Vice President J.D. Vance gave his confrontational speech at the Munich Security Conference, before President Donald Trump blamed Ukraine for starting the war with Russia, and before U.S. officials appeared to preemptively offer Russia almost everything it wants before negotiations on Ukraine were even underway. The reaction of mainstream European observers was neatly summed up by Gideon Rachman in the Financial Times: [T]he Trump administrations political ambitions for Europe mean that, for now, America is also an adversary. Is this view correct? A skeptic might recall that there have been serious rifts in the transatlantic partnership on many prior occasions: over Suez in 1956, over nuclear strategy and Vietnam in the 1960s, over the Euromissiles issue in the 1980s, and during the Kosovo war in 1999. The Iraq war in 2003 was yet another low-water mark between Washington and much of Europe. The United States did not hesitate to act unilaterally on numerous occasions, even when its allies interests were adversely affected, as Richard Nixon did when he took the United States off the gold standard in 1971 or as Joe Biden did when he signed the protectionist Inflation Reduction Act and the United States forced European firms to stop some high-tech exports to China. But few Europeans or Canadians believed the United States was deliberately trying to harm them; they believed that Washington was genuinely committed to their security and understood that its own security and prosperity was tied to their own. They were right, which made it much easier for the United States to win their support when necessary. For most European leadersand certainly for those in attendance at Munich last weekthe situation feels very different today. For the first time since 1949, they have valid reasons to believe that the president of the United States is not just indifferent to NATO and dismissive of Europes leaders, but actively hostile to most European countries. Instead of thinking of the nations of Europe as Americas most important partners, Trump appears to have switched sides and sees President Vladimir Putins Russia as a better long-term bet. Speculation about Trumps affinity with Putin has been swirling for years; those sympathies now appear to be guiding U.S. policy. I know what youre thinking: Isnt Trump just doing what realists like you have been suggesting? Havent you been saying that Ukraine has no plausible path to regaining its lost territory and that prolonging the war is just prolonging suffering to no good purpose? Didnt you also argue that basing a European security order on open-ended NATO expansion was a dangerous pipe dream? Instead of pushing Russia and China closer together, doesnt it make good strategic sense to drive a wedge between them and fashion a European order that reduces Moscows incentives to cause trouble? Indeed, wouldnt a better relationship with Russia make Europe safer in the long run? And if disrupting the comfortable transatlantic consensus convinces the nations of Europe to get their act together and rebuild some real defense capability, then the United States wont have to keep protecting them and can focus more effort on China. In this view, Trump isnt Europes enemy; hes just dispensing some tough love to a complacent continent and following good realist logic. If only that were true. In fact, Trump, Vance, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, and other administration officials have gone well beyond the long-standing disputes about burden-sharing, the need for a more sensible division of labor within the alliance, or the long-overdue reassessment about how to handle the war in Ukraine and relations with Russia. Their aim is to fundamentally transform relations with long-standing U.S. allies, rewrite the global rulebook, and, if possible, remake Europe along MAGA lines. That agenda is openly hostile to the existing European order. First, Trumps repeated threats to impose costly tariffs on close allies either to coerce concessions on other issues or solely because they are running trade surpluses with the United States is hardly an act of friendship. Serious trade disputes have occurred in the past, of course, and prior U.S. presidents have sometimes played hardball with our allies on these issues. But they have not done so capriciously or used transparently dubious national security rationales to justify them. They have also recognized that inflicting deliberate economic harm on ones allies makes it harder, not easier, for them to contribute to the common defense. Past administrations have also stuck to the deals they negotiated, a concept that seems utterly alien to Trump. Second, not only has Trump made it clear that he thinks great powers can and should take things they want, but he has made no secret of the fact that he covets some of our allies possessions. No wonder Trump is not troubled if Russia ends up with 20 percent of Ukraine, given that he wants all of Greenland; may reoccupy the Panama Canal Zone; thinks Canada should give up its independence and become the 51st state; and raves about taking over the Gaza Strip, expelling its population, and then building some hotels. Some of these musings might seem utterly fanciful, but the worldview they reveal is something no foreign leader can afford to ignore. --- "History shows again and again that nature points out the folly of man. Go go Godzilla!" Godzilla - Blue Oyster Cult <cite>Tom_Joad posted [p:984117838] in Yes, Ameri... [t:80938747]...</cite> <quote>https://foreignpolicy.com/2025/02/21/yes-america-is-europes-enemy-now/A few weeks ago, I warned that the second Trump administration might be squandering the tolerance and good will that Washington had long received from the worlds major democracies. Instead of seeing the United States as a mostly positive force in world affairs, these states might now have to worry that the United States is actively malevolent. That column was written before Vice President J.D. Vance gave his confrontational speech at the Munich Security Conference, before President Donald Trump blamed Ukraine for starting the war with Russia, and before U.S. officials appeared to preemptively offer Russia almost everything it wants before negotiations on Ukraine were even underway. The reaction of mainstream European observers was neatly summed up by Gideon Rachman in the Financial Times: [T]he Trump administrations political ambitions for Europe mean that, for now, America is also an adversary.Is this view correct? A skeptic might recall that there have been serious rifts in the transatlantic partnership on many prior occasions: over Suez in 1956, over nuclear strategy and Vietnam in the 1960s, over the Euromissiles issue in the 1980s, and during the Kosovo war in 1999. The Iraq war in 2003 was yet another low-water mark between Washington and much of Europe. The United States did not hesitate to act unilaterally on numerous occasions, even when its allies interests were adversely affected, as Richard Nixon did when he took the United States off the gold standard in 1971 or as Joe Biden did when he signed the protectionist Inflation Reduction Act and the United States forced European firms to stop some high-tech exports to China. But few Europeans or Canadians believed the United States was deliberately trying to harm them; they believed that Washington was genuinely committed to their security and understood that its own security and prosperity was tied to their own. They were right, which made it much easier for the United States to win their support when necessary.A few weeks ago, I warned that the second Trump administration might be squandering the tolerance and good will that Washington had long received from the worlds major democracies. Instead of seeing the United States as a mostly positive force in world affairs, these states might now have to worry that the United States is actively malevolent. That column was written before Vice President J.D. Vance gave his confrontational speech at the Munich Security Conference, before President Donald Trump blamed Ukraine for starting the war with Russia, and before U.S. officials appeared to preemptively offer Russia almost everything it wants before negotiations on Ukraine were even underway. The reaction of mainstream European observers was neatly summed up by Gideon Rachman in the Financial Times: [T]he Trump administrations political ambitions for Europe mean that, for now, America is also an adversary.Is this view correct? A skeptic might recall that there have been serious rifts in the transatlantic partnership on many prior occasions: over Suez in 1956, over nuclear strategy and Vietnam in the 1960s, over the Euromissiles issue in the 1980s, and during the Kosovo war in 1999. The Iraq war in 2003 was yet another low-water mark between Washington and much of Europe. The United States did not hesitate to act unilaterally on numerous occasions, even when its allies interests were adversely affected, as Richard Nixon did when he took the United States off the gold standard in 1971 or as Joe Biden did when he signed the protectionist Inflation Reduction Act and the United States forced European firms to stop some high-tech exports to China. But few Europeans or Canadians believed the United States was deliberately trying to harm them; they believed that Washington was genuinely committed to their security and understood that its own security and prosperity was tied to their own. They were right, which made it much easier for the United States to win their support when necessary.For most European leadersand certainly for those in attendance at Munich last weekthe situation feels very different today. For the first time since 1949, they have valid reasons to believe that the president of the United States is not just indifferent to NATO and dismissive of Europes leaders, but actively hostile to most European countries. Instead of thinking of the nations of Europe as Americas most important partners, Trump appears to have switched sides and sees President Vladimir Putins Russia as a better long-term bet. Speculation about Trumps affinity with Putin has been swirling for years; those sympathies now appear to be guiding U.S. policy.I know what youre thinking: Isnt Trump just doing what realists like you have been suggesting? Havent you been saying that Ukraine has no plausible path to regaining its lost territory and that prolonging the war is just prolonging suffering to no good purpose? Didnt you also argue that basing a European security order on open-ended NATO expansion was a dangerous pipe dream? Instead of pushing Russia and China closer together, doesnt it make good strategic sense to drive a wedge between them and fashion a European order that reduces Moscows incentives to cause trouble? Indeed, wouldnt a better relationship with Russia make Europe safer in the long run? And if disrupting the comfortable transatlantic consensus convinces the nations of Europe to get their act together and rebuild some real defense capability, then the United States wont have to keep protecting them and can focus more effort on China. In this view, Trump isnt Europes enemy; hes just dispensing some tough love to a complacent continent and following good realist logic.If only that were true. In fact, Trump, Vance, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, and other administration officials have gone well beyond the long-standing disputes about burden-sharing, the need for a more sensible division of labor within the alliance, or the long-overdue reassessment about how to handle the war in Ukraine and relations with Russia. Their aim is to fundamentally transform relations with long-standing U.S. allies, rewrite the global rulebook, and, if possible, remake Europe along MAGA lines. That agenda is openly hostile to the existing European order.First, Trumps repeated threats to impose costly tariffs on close allies either to coerce concessions on other issues or solely because they are running trade surpluses with the United States is hardly an act of friendship. Serious trade disputes have occurred in the past, of course, and prior U.S. presidents have sometimes played hardball with our allies on these issues. But they have not done so capriciously or used transparently dubious national security rationales to justify them. They have also recognized that inflicting deliberate economic harm on ones allies makes it harder, not easier, for them to contribute to the common defense. Past administrations have also stuck to the deals they negotiated, a concept that seems utterly alien to Trump.Second, not only has Trump made it clear that he thinks great powers can and should take things they want, but he has made no secret of the fact that he covets some of our allies possessions. No wonder Trump is not troubled if Russia ends up with 20 percent of Ukraine, given that he wants all of Greenland; may reoccupy the Panama Canal Zone; thinks Canada should give up its independence and become the 51st state; and raves about taking over the Gaza Strip, expelling its population, and then building some hotels. Some of these musings might seem utterly fanciful, but the worldview they reveal is something no foreign leader can afford to ignore.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tom_Joad 02/21/25 7:22:26 AM #2:	Third, and most important, Trump, Elon Musk, Vance, and the rest of the MAGA team are openly backing illiberal forces in Europe. In effect, they are trying to impose a far-reaching regime change throughout Europe, albeit without using military force. The signs are unmistakable: Hungarys Viktor Orban is a welcome guest at Mar-a-Lago. Vance met withAlice Weidel, co-chair of the far-right Alternative for Germany party, while he was in Munich, but not with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, and his declaration that the main challenge to Europe was the threat from within was an unveiled attack on the continents political order. (It was beyond ironic for Vance to criticize Europeans for anti-democratic behavior, given his refusal to admit that Trump lost the 2020 election or to condemn the Jan. 6 insurrectionists. But I digress.) Not to be outdone, Musk has been spewing his own false and hateful accusations at various European leaders, defending far-right criminals like Tommy Robinson, and interviewing Weidel and expressing his own support for her party. Despite a few differences on certain issues, the MAGA movement and most far-right parties in Europe generally opposealmost all forms of immigration; are skeptical to hostile toward the European Union; see elites, media, and higher education as the enemy; want to reimpose traditional religious values and gender norms; and believe citizenship should be defined by shared ethnicity or ancestry and not by shared civic values or ones birthplace. Like their fascist predecessors, they are comfortable with and adept at using the norms and institutions of democracy to subvert democratic rule and strengthen executive power. Sound familiar? Rachmans assessment that the United States is now an adversary of Europe is only partly correct, therefore, because Trump and his minions support European far-right nationalist movements that share their basic worldview. They are hostile to a vision of Europe as a model of democratic governance, social welfare, openness, the rule of law, political, social, and religious tolerance, and transnational cooperation. One might even say that they would like America and Europe to have similar values; the problem is that the values they have in mind are incompatible with genuine democracy. Trump and co. think treating Europe as an enemy risks little, because they believe Europe is a declining region and incapable of getting its act together. Undermining efforts to strengthen European unity by backing the far right also makes it easier for Washington to play divide-and-rule. On the other hand, openly bullying other countries tends to encourage national unity and a greater willingness to resist (as we are now seeing in Canada), and the chaos Trump and Musk have been unleashing here in the United States may make Europeans wary of trying similar experiments at home. It is also worth remembering that the initial push for European economic integration occurred in the 1950s, when European leaders believed the United States was going to withdraw its forces from the continent in the not-too-distant future and turn responsibility for European security back over to these states. Integrating key industries such as coal and steel was thus a first step to building sufficient economic and political unity to enable these states to stand up to the Soviet Union without direct U.S. assistance. The United States ultimately decided to keep its forces on the continent and the European Economic Community (and later EU) took on more openly economic and political objectives, but the early history reminds us that the prospect of having to go it alone was once a powerful driving force behind greater European cooperation. Finally, if America is now an adversary, Europes leaders should stop asking themselves what they need to do to keep Uncle Sam happy and start asking what they must do to protect themselves. If I were them, Id start by inviting more trade delegations from China and start developing alternatives to the SWIFT system of international financial payments. European universities should increase collaborative research efforts with Chinese institutions, a step that will become even more attractive if Trump and Musk continue to damage academic institutions in the United States. End Europes dependence on U.S. weapons by rebuilding Europes own defense industrial base. Send EU High Representative for Foreign Affairs Kaja Kallas to the next BRICS summit and consider applying for membership. And so forth. Because all of these steps would be costly for Europe and harmful for the United States, I dont want to see any of them actually happen. But Europe may be given little choice. Although Ive long thought the transatlantic relationship was past its high-water mark and that a new division of labor was needed, the goal should have sought to preserve a high level of transatlantic amity rather than encourage open hostility. If Trumps diplomatic revolution turns 450 million Europeans from being some of Americas staunchest allies into bitter and resentful adversaries increasingly looking for ways to hinder the United States, we will have only ourselvesor, more precisely, the current presidentto blame. --- "History shows again and again that nature points out the folly of man. Go go Godzilla!" Godzilla - Blue Oyster Cult <cite>Tom_Joad posted [p:984117839] in Yes, Ameri... [t:80938747]...</cite> <quote>Third, and most important, Trump, Elon Musk, Vance, and the rest of the MAGA team are openly backing illiberal forces in Europe. In effect, they are trying to impose a far-reaching regime change throughout Europe, albeit without using military force. The signs are unmistakable: Hungarys Viktor Orban is a welcome guest at Mar-a-Lago. Vance met withAlice Weidel, co-chair of the far-right Alternative for Germany party, while he was in Munich, but not with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, and his declaration that the main challenge to Europe was the threat from within was an unveiled attack on the continents political order. (It was beyond ironic for Vance to criticize Europeans for anti-democratic behavior, given his refusal to admit that Trump lost the 2020 election or to condemn the Jan. 6 insurrectionists. But I digress.) Not to be outdone, Musk has been spewing his own false and hateful accusations at various European leaders, defending far-right criminals like Tommy Robinson, and interviewing Weidel and expressing his own support for her party.Despite a few differences on certain issues, the MAGA movement and most far-right parties in Europe generally opposealmost all forms of immigration; are skeptical to hostile toward the European Union; see elites, media, and higher education as the enemy; want to reimpose traditional religious values and gender norms; and believe citizenship should be defined by shared ethnicity or ancestry and not by shared civic values or ones birthplace. Like their fascist predecessors, they are comfortable with and adept at using the norms and institutions of democracy to subvert democratic rule and strengthen executive power. Sound familiar?Rachmans assessment that the United States is now an adversary of Europe is only partly correct, therefore, because Trump and his minions support European far-right nationalist movements that share their basic worldview. They are hostile to a vision of Europe as a model of democratic governance, social welfare, openness, the rule of law, political, social, and religious tolerance, and transnational cooperation. One might even say that they would like America and Europe to have similar values; the problem is that the values they have in mind are incompatible with genuine democracy.Trump and co. think treating Europe as an enemy risks little, because they believe Europe is a declining region and incapable of getting its act together. Undermining efforts to strengthen European unity by backing the far right also makes it easier for Washington to play divide-and-rule. On the other hand, openly bullying other countries tends to encourage national unity and a greater willingness to resist (as we are now seeing in Canada), and the chaos Trump and Musk have been unleashing here in the United States may make Europeans wary of trying similar experiments at home.It is also worth remembering that the initial push for European economic integration occurred in the 1950s, when European leaders believed the United States was going to withdraw its forces from the continent in the not-too-distant future and turn responsibility for European security back over to these states. Integrating key industries such as coal and steel was thus a first step to building sufficient economic and political unity to enable these states to stand up to the Soviet Union without direct U.S. assistance. The United States ultimately decided to keep its forces on the continent and the European Economic Community (and later EU) took on more openly economic and political objectives, but the early history reminds us that the prospect of having to go it alone was once a powerful driving force behind greater European cooperation.Finally, if America is now an adversary, Europes leaders should stop asking themselves what they need to do to keep Uncle Sam happy and start asking what they must do to protect themselves. If I were them, Id start by inviting more trade delegations from China and start developing alternatives to the SWIFT system of international financial payments. European universities should increase collaborative research efforts with Chinese institutions, a step that will become even more attractive if Trump and Musk continue to damage academic institutions in the United States. End Europes dependence on U.S. weapons by rebuilding Europes own defense industrial base. Send EU High Representative for Foreign Affairs Kaja Kallas to the next BRICS summit and consider applying for membership. And so forth.Because all of these steps would be costly for Europe and harmful for the United States, I dont want to see any of them actually happen. But Europe may be given little choice. Although Ive long thought the transatlantic relationship was past its high-water mark and that a new division of labor was needed, the goal should have sought to preserve a high level of transatlantic amity rather than encourage open hostility. If Trumps diplomatic revolution turns 450 million Europeans from being some of Americas staunchest allies into bitter and resentful adversaries increasingly looking for ways to hinder the United States, we will have only ourselvesor, more precisely, the current presidentto blame.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonPhoenix 02/21/25 7:27:37 AM #3:	Bruh, tl;dr that shit --- https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG <cite>NeonPhoenix posted [p:984117865] in Yes, Ameri... [t:80938747]...</cite> <quote>Bruh, tl;dr that shit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkDaLunatic 02/21/25 7:30:20 AM #4:	NeonPhoenix posted... tl;dr? Other countries are getting sick of America's collective shit. --- There's a time and place for everything... but not now. <cite>LinkDaLunatic posted [p:984117884] in Yes, Ameri... [t:80938747]...</cite> <quote>NeonPhoenix posted... </cite><quote>tl;dr?</quote>Other countries are getting sick of America's collective shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 02/21/25 7:31:14 AM #5:	NeonPhoenix posted... tl;dr? MAGA hate European openness, democracy and welfare. Europe should stop trying to placate America and look elsewhere to protect their interests. --- 'Vinyl is the poor man's art collection'. Let in the refugees, deport the racists. <cite>ai123 posted [p:984117889] in Yes, Ameri... [t:80938747]...</cite> <quote>NeonPhoenix posted... </cite><quote>tl;dr?</quote>MAGA hate European openness, democracy and welfare.Europe should stop trying to placate America and look elsewhere to protect their interests.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tripleh213 02/21/25 7:32:23 AM #6:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/8d72e295.jpg --- Bucks World Champions 2021 PS4 looks great <cite>tripleh213 posted [p:984117898] in Yes, Ameri... [t:80938747]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/8/8d72e295.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
St0rmFury 02/21/25 7:33:02 AM #7:	Someone get chatgpt to tl;dr it. --- "Average Joe" is a trolling term since it's completely an opinion. "Overachieving" is also an opinion. - SBAllen (Hellhole: 52458377) <cite>St0rmFury posted [p:984117902] in Yes, Ameri... [t:80938747]...</cite> <quote>Someone get chatgpt to tl;dr it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChamGemini 02/21/25 7:40:29 AM #8:	St0rmFury posted... Someone get chatgpt to tl;dr it. Pretty sure, due to the double copy, someone used it to make the OP. --- Xbox/Playstation/Steam: chamgemini 3DS Friend code: 3153-5331-7088 <cite>ChamGemini posted [p:984117955] in Yes, Ameri... [t:80938747]...</cite> <quote>St0rmFury posted... </cite><quote>Someone get chatgpt to tl;dr it.</quote>Pretty sure, due to the double copy, someone used it to make the OP.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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B18Champ 02/21/25 8:14:41 AM #10:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/baa1a31c.jpg --- The wealthiest person is a pauper at times Compared to the man with a satisfied mind <cite>B18Champ posted [p:984118166] in Yes, Ameri... [t:80938747]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/baa1a31c.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NeonPhoenix 02/21/25 8:33:09 AM #12:	ScazarMeltex posted... This, ladies and gentlemen, is why we are at the place we are at. A five minute read breaking down the nuances of where we are at is too much reading for this guy. tl;dr this post please --- https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG <cite>NeonPhoenix posted [p:984118305] in Yes, Ameri... [t:80938747]...</cite> <quote>ScazarMeltex posted... </cite><quote>This, ladies and gentlemen, is why we are at the place we are at. A five minute read breaking down the nuances of where we are at is too much reading for this guy.</quote>tl;dr this post please</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordFarquad1312 02/21/25 8:38:57 AM #14:	The entire world should stop trying to placate the US and put up with their bullshit. --- El sexo sucio y el planeta limpio. "If you are tired of fear from links... Let Kirby's Nightmare protect you." <cite>LordFarquad1312 posted [p:984118339] in Yes, Ameri... [t:80938747]...</cite> <quote>The entire world should stop trying to placate the US and put up with their bullshit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bsp77 02/21/25 8:39:51 AM #15:	ScazarMeltex posted... This, ladies and gentlemen, is why we are at the place we are at. A five minute read breaking down the nuances of how Trump has destroyed every bit of American good will in Europe for generations is too much reading for this guy. I'm with Neon here --- Currently playing - Metaphor: ReFantazio <cite>bsp77 posted [p:984118344] in Yes, Ameri... [t:80938747]...</cite> <quote>ScazarMeltex posted... </cite><quote>This, ladies and gentlemen, is why we are at the place we are at. A five minute read breaking down the nuances of how Trump has destroyed every bit of American good will in Europe for generations is too much reading for this guy.</quote>I'm with Neon here</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Vyrulisse 02/21/25 8:40:44 AM #16:	Such a strange reality where I feel like the US is now on the "enemy" side in the world affairs. We ARE the baddies. --- http://i.imgur.com/6VeX04D.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0pOIVkGkds <cite>Vyrulisse posted [p:984118355] in Yes, Ameri... [t:80938747]...</cite> <quote>Such a strange reality where I feel like the US is now on the "enemy" side in the world affairs.We ARE the baddies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonPhoenix 02/21/25 8:42:23 AM #17:	ScazarMeltex posted... Yeah, we get it bro, if it doesn't have giant anime tits you don't understand it. Those don't exist any more in Fandom's sexless utopia --- https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG <cite>NeonPhoenix posted [p:984118367] in Yes, Ameri... [t:80938747]...</cite> <quote>ScazarMeltex posted... </cite><quote>Yeah, we get it bro, if it doesn't have giant anime tits you don't understand it.</quote>Those don't exist any more in Fandom's sexless utopia</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gwynevere 02/21/25 8:46:33 AM #18:	bsp77 posted... I'm with Neon here Why should someone be expected to boil down an article covering something as complex as international relations to a tl;dr? There's no particularly complex language or big words to process, just the time that you'd probably waste doom scrolling other social media or doing literally anything else anyway --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream [She/they] <cite>Gwynevere posted [p:984118392] in Yes, Ameri... [t:80938747]...</cite> <quote>bsp77 posted... </cite><quote>I'm with Neon here</quote>Why should someone be expected to boil down an article covering something as complex as international relations to a tl;dr? There's no particularly complex language or big words to process, just the time that you'd probably waste doom scrolling other social media or doing literally anything else anyway</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonPhoenix 02/21/25 8:48:53 AM #19:	It's like trying to watch Naruto with the filler or those video essays that are over 10 minutes long for a 30 second subject: it shouldn't be done. Just show us the important bits so we can move on with our lives. Life is short >_> --- https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG <cite>NeonPhoenix posted [p:984118414] in Yes, Ameri... [t:80938747]...</cite> <quote>It's like trying to watch Naruto with the filler or those video essays that are over 10 minutes long for a 30 second subject: it shouldn't be done. Just show us the important bits so we can move on with our lives. Life is short >_></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bsp77 02/21/25 8:51:34 AM #20:	Gwynevere posted... Why should someone be expected to boil down an article covering something as complex as international relations to a tl;dr? There's no particularly complex language or big words to process, just the time that you'd probably waste doom scrolling other social media or doing literally anything else anyway Honestly, I just want better organization. A header for each point, with extra explanation for each point if someone wants further context. I have been keeping up with news and think I have a sense of the points, but don't come to CE to read a 5 minute essay. --- Currently playing - Metaphor: ReFantazio <cite>bsp77 posted [p:984118441] in Yes, Ameri... [t:80938747]...</cite> <quote>Gwynevere posted... </cite><quote>Why should someone be expected to boil down an article covering something as complex as international relations to a tl;dr? There's no particularly complex language or big words to process, just the time that you'd probably waste doom scrolling other social media or doing literally anything else anyway</quote>Honestly, I just want better organization. A header for each point, with extra explanation for each point if someone wants further context.I have been keeping up with news and think I have a sense of the points, but don't come to CE to read a 5 minute essay.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Red_XIV 02/21/25 8:57:30 AM #21:	I know what youre thinking: Isnt Trump just doing what realists like you have been suggesting? Havent you been saying that Ukraine has no plausible path to regaining its lost territory and that prolonging the war is just prolonging suffering to no good purpose? In other words, the author of this article is only slightly better than Trump, and just as pro-Russia. --- "We will end our resilience for bad things." "We have pioneered the fatality rate." More brilliant insights from Donald Chump <cite>Red_XIV posted [p:984118490] in Yes, Ameri... [t:80938747]...</cite> <quote><quote>I know what youre thinking: Isnt Trump just doing what realists like you have been suggesting? Havent you been saying that Ukraine has no plausible path to regaining its lost territory and that prolonging the war is just prolonging suffering to no good purpose?</quote>In other words, the author of this article is only slightly better than Trump, and just as pro-Russia.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 02/21/25 9:04:15 AM #22:	Red_XIV posted... In other words, the author of this article is only slightly better than Trump, and just as pro-Russia. No, you're taking that paragraph out of context. The author raises those questions to dismiss them: *If only that were true.* In fact, Trump, Vance, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, and other administration officials have gone well beyond the long-standing disputes about burden-sharing, the need for a more sensible division of labor within the alliance, or the long-overdue reassessment about how to handle the war in Ukraine and relations with Russia. Their aim is to fundamentally transform relations with long-standing U.S. allies, rewrite the global rulebook, and, if possible, remake Europe along MAGA lines. That agenda is openly hostile to the existing European order. --- 'Vinyl is the poor man's art collection'. Let in the refugees, deport the racists. <cite>ai123 posted [p:984118545] in Yes, Ameri... [t:80938747]...</cite> <quote>Red_XIV posted... </cite><quote>In other words, the author of this article is only slightly better than Trump, and just as pro-Russia.</quote>No, you're taking that paragraph out of context. The author raises those questions to dismiss them:If only that were true. In fact, Trump, Vance, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, and other administration officials have gone well beyond the long-standing disputes about burden-sharing, the need for a more sensible division of labor within the alliance, or the long-overdue reassessment about how to handle the war in Ukraine and relations with Russia. Their aim is to fundamentally transform relations with long-standing U.S. allies, rewrite the global rulebook, and, if possible, remake Europe along MAGA lines. That agenda is openly hostile to the existing European order.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 02/21/25 9:05:34 AM #23:	Please invade us Europe. Free us. --- Fix your hearts or die. When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:984118550] in Yes, Ameri... [t:80938747]...</cite> <quote>Please invade us Europe. Free us.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeonPhoenix 02/21/25 9:08:04 AM #24:	ai123 posted... No, you're taking that paragraph out of context. The author raises those questions to dismiss them: I guess it needs a couple more paragraphs to flesh out the point --- https://imgur.com/u2HR4nG <cite>NeonPhoenix posted [p:984118577] in Yes, Ameri... [t:80938747]...</cite> <quote>ai123 posted... </cite><quote>No, you're taking that paragraph out of context. The author raises those questions to dismiss them:</quote>I guess it needs a couple more paragraphs to flesh out the point</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Red_XIV 02/21/25 9:08:59 AM #25:	ai123 posted... No, you're taking that paragraph out of context. The author raises those questions to dismiss them: My point was, the author by his own admission has "been saying that Ukraine has no plausible path to regaining its lost territory and that prolonging the war is just prolonging suffering to no good purpose". --- "We will end our resilience for bad things." "We have pioneered the fatality rate." More brilliant insights from Donald Chump <cite>Red_XIV posted [p:984118588] in Yes, Ameri... [t:80938747]...</cite> <quote>ai123 posted... </cite><quote>No, you're taking that paragraph out of context. The author raises those questions to dismiss them:</quote>My point was, the author by his own admission has "been saying that Ukraine has no plausible path to regaining its lost territory and that prolonging the war is just prolonging suffering to no good purpose". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 02/21/25 9:13:27 AM #26:	NeonPhoenix posted... I guess it needs a couple more paragraphs to flesh out the point Afraid so. The author has committed the cardinal sin of writing a thousand word essay on a serious and complex topic. If only Foreign Policy.com forced their authors to produce three lists a day (14 reasons Vance hates Europe! You won't believe #6!), and like five corporate tweets, we wouldn't have this problem. --- 'Vinyl is the poor man's art collection'. Let in the refugees, deport the racists. <cite>ai123 posted [p:984118627] in Yes, Ameri... [t:80938747]...</cite> <quote>NeonPhoenix posted... </cite><quote>I guess it needs a couple more paragraphs to flesh out the point</quote>Afraid so.The author has committed the cardinal sin of writing a thousand word essay on a serious and complex topic.If only Foreign Policy.com forced their authors to produce three lists a day (14 reasons Vance hates Europe! You won't believe #6!), and like five corporate tweets, we wouldn't have this problem.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tom_Joad 02/21/25 9:52:55 AM #27:	NeonPhoenix posted... I guess it needs a couple more paragraphs to flesh out the point It's found in the preceding paragraph. I know what youre thinking: Isnt Trump just doing what realists like you have been suggesting? Havent you been saying that Ukraine has no plausible path to regaining its lost territory and that prolonging the war is just prolonging suffering to no good purpose? Didnt you also argue that basing a European security order on open-ended NATO expansion was a dangerous pipe dream? Instead of pushing Russia and China closer together, doesnt it make good strategic sense to drive a wedge between them and fashion a European order that reduces Moscows incentives to cause trouble? Indeed, wouldnt a better relationship with Russia make Europe safer in the long run? And if disrupting the comfortable transatlantic consensus convinces the nations of Europe to get their act together and rebuild some real defense capability, then the United States wont have to keep protecting them and can focus more effort on China. In this view, Trump isnt Europes enemy; hes just dispensing some tough love to a complacent continent and following good realist logic. *If only that were true.* In fact, Trump, Vance, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, and other administration officials have gone well beyond the long-standing disputes about burden-sharing, the need for a more sensible division of labor within the alliance, or the long-overdue reassessment about how to handle the war in Ukraine and relations with Russia. Their aim is to fundamentally transform relations with long-standing U.S. allies, rewrite the global rulebook, and, if possible, remake Europe along MAGA lines. That agenda is openly hostile to the existing European order. --- "History shows again and again that nature points out the folly of man. Go go Godzilla!" Godzilla - Blue Oyster Cult <cite>Tom_Joad posted [p:984119001] in Yes, Ameri... [t:80938747]...</cite> <quote>NeonPhoenix posted... </cite><quote>I guess it needs a couple more paragraphs to flesh out the point</quote>It's found in the preceding paragraph.<quote>I know what youre thinking: Isnt Trump just doing what realists like you have been suggesting? Havent you been saying that Ukraine has no plausible path to regaining its lost territory and that prolonging the war is just prolonging suffering to no good purpose? Didnt you also argue that basing a European security order on open-ended NATO expansion was a dangerous pipe dream? Instead of pushing Russia and China closer together, doesnt it make good strategic sense to drive a wedge between them and fashion a European order that reduces Moscows incentives to cause trouble? Indeed, wouldnt a better relationship with Russia make Europe safer in the long run? And if disrupting the comfortable transatlantic consensus convinces the nations of Europe to get their act together and rebuild some real defense capability, then the United States wont have to keep protecting them and can focus more effort on China. In this view, Trump isnt Europes enemy; hes just dispensing some tough love to a complacent continent and following good realist logic.If only that were true. In fact, Trump, Vance, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, and other administration officials have gone well beyond the long-standing disputes about burden-sharing, the need for a more sensible division of labor within the alliance, or the long-overdue reassessment about how to handle the war in Ukraine and relations with Russia. Their aim is to fundamentally transform relations with long-standing U.S. allies, rewrite the global rulebook, and, if possible, remake Europe along MAGA lines. That agenda is openly hostile to the existing European order.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
evilpresident 02/21/25 9:55:21 AM #28:	Southernfatman posted... Please invade us Europe. Free us. On our way. Do you want to be named New Belgium or the United States of Belgium when we're done? --- Corruption that you can believe in. (She/her) <cite>evilpresident posted [p:984119025] in Yes, Ameri... [t:80938747]...</cite> <quote>Southernfatman posted... </cite><quote>Please invade us Europe. Free us.</quote>On our way. Do you want to be named New Belgium or the United States of Belgium when we're done?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Southernfatman 02/21/25 10:16:18 AM #31:	evilpresident posted... On our way. Do you want to be named New Belgium or the United States of Belgium when we're done? [LFAQs-redacted-quote] ^That. I for one welcome our Belgian overlords. --- Fix your hearts or die. When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:984119210] in Yes, Ameri... [t:80938747]...</cite> <quote>evilpresident posted... </cite><quote>On our way. Do you want to be named New Belgium or the United States of Belgium when we're done?</quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> ^That. I for one welcome our Belgian overlords.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSj4Wingzero 02/21/25 10:19:50 AM #32:	TL;DR version: America is acting hostile to Europe and European powers should and will view the United States as an enemy in the same vein of Russia/China --- Not changing this sig until the Knicks win the NBA Championship! Started 4/23/2010! <cite>SSj4Wingzero posted [p:984119245] in Yes, Ameri... [t:80938747]...</cite> <quote>TL;DR version:America is acting hostile to Europe and European powers should and will view the United States as an enemy in the same vein of Russia/China</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Humble_Novice 02/21/25 10:22:01 AM #33:	Has the EU done something about Hungary yet? --- Here's a link to the CE Discord server in the event that the actual board gets removed by GameFAQs: https://discord.gg/zMBUnHPMHe <cite>Humble_Novice posted [p:984119268] in Yes, Ameri... [t:80938747]...</cite> <quote>Has the EU done something about Hungary yet?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
teep_ 02/21/25 11:22:49 AM #34:	Charles de Gaulle punching the air right now Humble_Novice posted... Has the EU done something about Hungary yet? I don't think this is the gotcha you seem to think it is --- teep is a God damn genius - Zodd Zodd is 100% correct about you - meralonne <cite>teep_ posted [p:984119875] in Yes, Ameri... [t:80938747]...</cite> <quote>Charles de Gaulle punching the air right nowHumble_Novice posted... </cite><quote>Has the EU done something about Hungary yet?</quote>I don't think this is the gotcha you seem to think it is</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 02/21/25 11:50:49 AM #35:	Humble_Novice posted... Has the EU done something about Hungary yet? Yes. They have several court actions against them, and fines are being levied (200m for breaches of immigration law, for example). They have also cut their funding by over 1bn a year. They do need to do a lot more though. Suspending their voting rights could be a start. --- 'Vinyl is the poor man's art collection'. Let in the refugees, deport the racists. <cite>ai123 posted [p:984120156] in Yes, Ameri... [t:80938747]...</cite> <quote>Humble_Novice posted... </cite><quote>Has the EU done something about Hungary yet?</quote>Yes.They have several court actions against them, and fines are being levied (200m for breaches of immigration law, for example). They have also cut their funding by over 1bn a year.They do need to do a lot more though. Suspending their voting rights could be a start.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gamer167 02/21/25 12:02:00 PM #36:	cool <cite>gamer167 posted [p:984120271] in Yes, Ameri... [t:80938747]...</cite> <quote>cool</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Choco 02/21/25 12:07:38 PM #37:	you people have always been my enemies --- https://i.imgur.com/286sD4e.png http://error1355.com/ce/Choco.html <cite>Choco posted [p:984120316] in Yes, Ameri... [t:80938747]...</cite> <quote>you people have always been my enemies</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kaldrenthebold 02/21/25 12:09:48 PM #38:	B18Champ posted... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/baa1a31c.jpg Says the chud. Such inciteful dialogue as usual --- http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u223/chocolateFRESH/arts/kraid.png - Thanks GP cosmonaut! http://i.imgur.com/TuJWAR8.jpg <cite>Kaldrenthebold posted [p:984120332] in Yes, Ameri... [t:80938747]...</cite> <quote>B18Champ posted... </cite><quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/b/baa1a31c.jpg</quote>Says the chud. Such inciteful dialogue as usual</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dungeater 02/21/25 12:10:56 PM #39:	bsp77 posted... I'm with Neon here it's not a particularly long read. the double copy is irksome but not a slowdown. and it's an important and complex issue. either youre interested or you arent the tldr is the title. --- My fate was the grandest, most brilliant of them all. He/Him <cite>Dungeater posted [p:984120344] in Yes, Ameri... [t:80938747]...</cite> <quote>bsp77 posted... </cite><quote>I'm with Neon here</quote>it's not a particularly long read. the double copy is irksome but not a slowdown. and it's an important and complex issue. either youre interested or you arent the tldr is the title.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Murphiroth 02/21/25 12:19:57 PM #41:	ScazarMeltex posted... This, ladies and gentlemen, is why we are at the place we are at. A five minute read breaking down the nuances of how Trump has destroyed every bit of American good will in Europe for generations is too much reading for this guy. It's Neon. He ultimately doesn't give a shit and is just shitposting because Trump's actions aren't really going to affect him. <cite>Murphiroth posted [p:984120430] in Yes, Ameri... [t:80938747]...</cite> <quote>ScazarMeltex posted... </cite><quote>This, ladies and gentlemen, is why we are at the place we are at. A five minute read breaking down the nuances of how Trump has destroyed every bit of American good will in Europe for generations is too much reading for this guy.</quote>It's Neon. He ultimately doesn't give a shit and is just shitposting because Trump's actions aren't really going to affect him. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tom_Joad 02/21/25 12:31:26 PM #42:	Dungeater posted... it's not a particularly long read. the double copy is irksome but not a slowdown. and it's an important and complex issue. either youre interested or you arent the tldr is the title. It's in two posts because GameFaqs doesn't allow any post to be longer than 8,000 characters. --- "History shows again and again that nature points out the folly of man. Go go Godzilla!" Godzilla - Blue Oyster Cult <cite>Tom_Joad posted [p:984120550] in Yes, Ameri... [t:80938747]...</cite> <quote>Dungeater posted... </cite><quote>it's not a particularly long read. the double copy is irksome but not a slowdown. and it's an important and complex issue. either youre interested or you arent the tldr is the title.</quote>It's in two posts because GameFaqs doesn't allow any post to be longer than 8,000 characters.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dungeater 02/21/25 12:33:26 PM #43:	Tom_Joad posted... It's in two posts because GameFaqs doesn't allow any post to be longer than 8,000 characters. i dont mean the double post, i mean that the first two paragraphs are repeated immediately after --- My fate was the grandest, most brilliant of them all. He/Him <cite>Dungeater posted [p:984120567] in Yes, Ameri... [t:80938747]...</cite> <quote>Tom_Joad posted... </cite><quote>It's in two posts because GameFaqs doesn't allow any post to be longer than 8,000 characters.</quote>i dont mean the double post, i mean that the first two paragraphs are repeated immediately after</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZevLoveDOOM 02/21/25 12:37:12 PM #44:	so the orange lunatic continues to do and say whatever he damn well wants to and nobody fucking stands up to him. meanwhile, his cronies just keep enabling him and kissing his putrid rotten orange ass like there's no tomorrow. this is the sad state of affairs we live in... smh <cite>ZevLoveDOOM posted [p:984120615] in Yes, Ameri... [t:80938747]...</cite> <quote>so the orange lunatic continues to do and say whatever he damn well wants to and nobody fucking stands up to him. meanwhile, his cronies just keep enabling him and kissing his putrid rotten orange ass like there's no tomorrow.this is the sad state of affairs we live in... smh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sandalorn 02/21/25 1:22:49 PM #45:	This thread just shows you how shitty our education is and how lazy Americans are. "You want me to take 5 minutes to read a detailed article???? I can only read memes and one sentence statements!!" <cite>Sandalorn posted [p:984121150] in Yes, Ameri... [t:80938747]...</cite> <quote>This thread just shows you how shitty our education is and how lazy Americans are."You want me to take 5 minutes to read a detailed article???? I can only read memes and one sentence statements!!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
josifrees 02/21/25 1:23:56 PM #46:	unite the world with this one easy trick --- ifit'sanewbeginning,thenidon'twanttoKNOWifitsnotworthpretending,th enidon'twantoKNOWi'mjustsosickoflistening,whatshouldiwanttoKNOW? <cite>josifrees posted [p:984121163] in Yes, Ameri... [t:80938747]...</cite> <quote>unite the world with this one easy trick </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Aztex 02/21/25 1:24:48 PM #47:	Everyone is jealous of USA that's the downside about being the best. --- Pokemon TCG Pocket - Texican - 2432-6142-7499-9507 <cite>Aztex posted [p:984121175] in Yes, Ameri... [t:80938747]...</cite> <quote>Everyone is jealous of USA that's the downside about being the best.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ai123 02/21/25 1:28:03 PM #48:	Aztex posted... Everyone is jealous of USA that's the downside about being the best. Bad look for 'the best' to prostrate themselves in front of Putin, no? That doesn't seem like something a 'great' country would do, does it? You're keeping company with the likes of North Korea and Iran there. --- 'Vinyl is the poor man's art collection'. Let in the refugees, deport the racists. <cite>ai123 posted [p:984121206] in Yes, Ameri... [t:80938747]...</cite> <quote>Aztex posted... </cite><quote>Everyone is jealous of USA that's the downside about being the best.</quote>Bad look for 'the best' to prostrate themselves in front of Putin, no?That doesn't seem like something a 'great' country would do, does it? You're keeping company with the likes of North Korea and Iran there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tom_Joad 02/21/25 1:31:10 PM #49:	Dungeater posted... i dont mean the double post, i mean that the first two paragraphs are repeated immediately after Is it? Well, shit... I didn't even notice. And I can't edit the post now to correct it. Sorry about that, everyone. --- "History shows again and again that nature points out the folly of man. Go go Godzilla!" Godzilla - Blue Oyster Cult <cite>Tom_Joad posted [p:984121247] in Yes, Ameri... [t:80938747]...</cite> <quote>Dungeater posted... </cite><quote>i dont mean the double post, i mean that the first two paragraphs are repeated immediately after</quote>Is it?Well, shit... I didn't even notice.And I can't edit the post now to correct it.Sorry about that, everyone.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tom_Joad 02/21/25 1:32:31 PM #50:	Aztex posted... Everyone is jealous of USA that's the downside about being the best. By what metric? Number of incarcerated? --- "History shows again and again that nature points out the folly of man. Go go Godzilla!" Godzilla - Blue Oyster Cult <cite>Tom_Joad posted [p:984121259] in Yes, Ameri... [t:80938747]...</cite> <quote>Aztex posted... </cite><quote>Everyone is jealous of USA that's the downside about being the best.</quote>By what metric?Number of incarcerated?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Umbreon 02/21/25 2:31:41 PM #51:	For the record, I don't think wanting two long posts briefly summarized is a big ask or "The reason America is in this mess". Unless you think dropping a 20 minute YT vid without comment would also qualify as such. Tom_Joad posted... The reaction of mainstream European observers was neatly summed up by Gideon Rachman in the Financial Times: [T]he Trump administrations political ambitions for Europe mean that, for now, America is also an adversary. That being said this serves as a summary, and anyone interested in the details can continue reading why that is --- Black Lives Matter. ~DYL~ (On mobile) <cite>Umbreon posted [p:984121885] in Yes, Ameri... [t:80938747]...</cite> <quote>For the record, I don't think wanting two long posts briefly summarized is a big ask or "The reason America is in this mess". Unless you think dropping a 20 minute YT vid without comment would also qualify as such.Tom_Joad posted... </cite><quote>The reaction of mainstream European observers was neatly summed up by Gideon Rachman in the Financial Times: [T]he Trump administrations political ambitions for Europe mean that, for now, America is also an adversary.</quote>That being said this serves as a summary, and anyone interested in the details can continue reading why that is</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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