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Dungeater
02/24/25 10:12:13 AM
#253:


who the hell is defending brake checkers

how the hell is that the read for so many of you

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DrizztLink
02/24/25 3:10:20 PM
#254:


Dungeater posted...
who the hell is defending brake checkers
Rika, mostly.

This isn't the first brake-check topic, he's been like this for years.

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imagine606
02/25/25 7:22:37 AM
#255:


I havent seen anyone support brake checking, just seen people say tailgaters are worse.
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asdf8562
02/25/25 11:41:10 AM
#256:


imagine606 posted...
I havent seen anyone support brake checking, just seen people say tailgaters are worse.
There is literally people in this topic justifying brake checking on the ridiculous basis that because tailgaters started the reckless driving.

So they may not be outright supporting it, but there's definitely people here justifying it.

On the flip side, I don't see anyone here justifying tailgating. With the maybe a discussion being by some of which is worse? But I think most are arguing it really doesn't matter which is worse, both are reckless driving regardless who started it.
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JohnEtrav
02/25/25 1:17:55 PM
#258:


imagine606 posted...
I havent seen anyone support brake checking, just seen people say tailgaters are worse.
Exactly this. Both drivers are shitheads.

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imagine606
02/25/25 3:26:03 PM
#259:


asdf8562 posted...
There is literally people in this topic justifying brake checking on the ridiculous basis that because tailgaters started the reckless driving.

So they may not be outright supporting it, but there's definitely people here justifying it.

On the flip side, I don't see anyone here justifying tailgating. With the maybe a discussion being by some of which is worse? But I think most are arguing it really doesn't matter which is worse, both are reckless driving regardless who started it.
In other words, nobody is, but you bet theyre thinking it?
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asdf8562
02/25/25 4:32:40 PM
#260:


imagine606 posted...
In other words, nobody is, but you bet theyre thinking it?
It's not something I'm "betting."

We literally have several users in this very topic trying to justify brake checking. The justification for brake checking being "someone shouldnt be tailgating in the first place."

As if tailgating existing somehow matters if you intentionally respond with reckless road rage out ones ego to retaliate.
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El_Dustino
02/25/25 7:04:07 PM
#261:


How do you prove brake checking?

Because unless the brake checker says "yes I brake checked intentionally" there is no way to know why they suddenly put their brakes on, and part of the responsibility of driving is to leave enough following distance to where you can safely stop if the person in front of you comes to a sudden, complete stop.

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ReturnOfDevsman
02/25/25 7:05:32 PM
#262:


El_Dustino posted...
How do you prove brake checking?

Because unless the brake checker says "yes I brake checked intentionally" there is no way to know why they suddenly put their brakes on, and part of the responsibility of driving is to leave enough following distance to where you can safely stop if the person in front of you comes to a sudden, complete stop.
I'm not surprised CE's definition of right and wrong revolves around getting caught.

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DrizztLink
02/25/25 7:05:41 PM
#263:


El_Dustino posted...
How do you prove brake checking?
Dashcam and/or eyewitness testimony, depending on area.

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imagine606
02/25/25 7:11:54 PM
#264:


asdf8562 posted...
It's not something I'm "betting."

We literally have several users in this very topic trying to justify brake checking. The justification for brake checking being "someone shouldnt be tailgating in the first place."

As if tailgating existing somehow matters if you intentionally respond with reckless road rage out ones ego to retaliate.
That's not justifying brake checking, that's saying that people shouldn't be tailgating, which is the reason people brake check. Anyone who does either is a moron who shouldn't be on the road.
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ModernPost
02/25/25 7:17:07 PM
#266:


imagine606 posted...
That's not justifying brake checking, that's saying that people shouldn't be tailgating, which is the reason people brake check. Anyone who does either is a moron who shouldn't be on the road.
"I'm not justifying brake checking, I'm just saying that it's okay to do it if you want to."

That's what you people sound like.

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imagine606
02/25/25 7:18:37 PM
#267:


ModernPost posted...
"I'm not justifying brake checking, I'm just saying that it's okay to do it if you want to."

That's what you people sound like.
This is an incredibly stupid post.
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Blackestmage
02/25/25 7:19:10 PM
#268:


This thing went from chatting about how to talk to girls in highschool corridors to driving. We really grew up on this website.

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DrizztLink
02/25/25 7:19:24 PM
#269:


ModernPost posted...
"I'm not justifying brake checking, I'm just saying that it's okay to do it if you want to."

That's what you people sound like.
"Yes, the other guy took a swing at me. Yes, I dumped three mags of blind fire out of my assault rifle in his general direction. Yes, I killed a dozen people. But if it weren't for that guy I wouldn't have dumped three mags, so ultimately it's his fault."

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ModernPost
02/25/25 7:27:17 PM
#270:


imagine606 posted...
This is an incredibly stupid post.
Thanks for warning me.

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imagine606
02/25/25 7:29:16 PM
#271:


ModernPost posted...
Thanks for warning me.
You're welcome!

Now stop tailgating people. It's dangerous.
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ModernPost
02/25/25 7:46:46 PM
#272:


imagine606 posted...
You're welcome!

Now stop tailgating people. It's dangerous.
I think you're confused about what we're discussing.

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El_Dustino
02/25/25 7:56:49 PM
#273:


ReturnOfDevsman posted...
I'm not surprised CE's definition of right and wrong revolves around getting caught.

It's not about getting caught, it's that you have no idea if they are brake checking unless they say so. Even if eyewitnesses saw it and saw no reason for them to break, that doesn't mean anything, they could have thought they saw something.

Brake checking is always dangerous but it's hard to say when it's actually brake checking, whereas tailgating is always dangerous and there is 0% doubt when it's happening.

Brake checking sucks but I think more focus and attention should be put on tailgating as it's more noticeable and and preventing it largely prevents brake checking.

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imagine606
02/25/25 8:37:31 PM
#275:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

I took that as being sarcastic, it seemed pretty obvious to me.
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imagine606
02/25/25 8:38:21 PM
#276:


ModernPost posted...
I think you're confused about what we're discussing.
You're obviously so offended by people saying that tailgating is also bad because you're a tailgater yourself. You haven't even tried to deny it.
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GeraldDarko
02/25/25 8:40:21 PM
#277:


imagine606 posted...
You're obviously so offended by people saying that tailgating is also bad because you're a tailgater yourself. You haven't even tried to deny it.
Help! I rolled my eyes so hard they're stuck. My mom was right!

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DrizztLink
02/25/25 8:41:07 PM
#278:


ModernPost posted...
This scenario is the exact reason why tailgating is dangerous,


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JadeBaby
02/25/25 8:46:20 PM
#280:


Interesting topic. I don't drive, but if I did I definitely wouldn't be tailgating anyone. It's just dangerous, I don't know who is in that car or what they are capable of.

They could be drunk, high, armed, or all 3 and we all know that road rage is a common thing that turns deadly very quickly. That's my take on it at least.

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imagine606
02/25/25 8:47:32 PM
#281:


GeraldDarko posted...
Help! I rolled my eyes so hard they're stuck. My mom was right!
It's no worse than the logic other people here are using to try to say that people here are defending brake checkers. When two people do shitty things to create a shitty situation, both people are doing shitty things, how is it so hard for people to understand that? It's common sense.
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imagine606
02/25/25 8:49:14 PM
#282:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]

Okay, I'll give you one person, I didn't see that they were actually defending it. However, why is it so hard for people to admit that tailgating is also wrong? It's an objective fact and people are flipping out over the thought of both being bad.
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DrizztLink
02/25/25 8:49:30 PM
#283:


imagine606 posted...
It's no worse than the logic other people here are using to try to say that people here are defending brake checkers. When two people do shitty things to create a shitty situation, both people are doing shitty things, how is it so hard for people to understand that? It's common sense.
And you're making that argument by parroting it at the people who have been shitting on that argument the entire topic, not the ones unironically using it.

Which is why you're getting dunked on.

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imagine606
02/25/25 8:52:26 PM
#284:


DrizztLink posted...
And you're making that argument by parroting it at the people who have been shitting on that argument the entire topic, not the ones unironically using it.

Which is why you're getting dunked on.
I'm stating an objective fact. I'm 100% correct in what I'm saying. Maybe people are trying to dunk on me, but when I'm objectively correct in what I'm saying it's a complete failure.
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DrizztLink
02/25/25 8:54:10 PM
#285:


Ok, so that's a "no" on exercising basic reading comprehension.

Fine, continue getting dunked on, maybe if you scream "nuh uh" loud enough someone other than you will believe it isn't happening.

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imagine606
02/25/25 8:57:31 PM
#286:


DrizztLink posted...
Ok, so that's a "no" on exercising basic reading comprehension.

Fine, continue getting dunked on, maybe if you scream "nuh uh" loud enough someone other than you will believe it isn't happening.
You're picking a really odd subject to troll on.
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ModernPost
02/25/25 8:57:50 PM
#287:


imagine606 posted...
Okay, I'll give you one person, I didn't see that they were actually defending it. However, why is it so hard for people to admit that tailgating is also wrong? It's an objective fact and people are flipping out over the thought of both being bad.
My entire point is that because tailgating is so dangerous, intentionally doing the thing that makes tailgating dangerous is the exact wrong thing to do in that scenario if you actually care about avoiding an accident. I'm trying to turn over a new leaf and so I'm not going to be mean, but it's quite clear that you did not comprehend a single thing I have said in this topic.

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DrizztLink
02/25/25 8:58:48 PM
#288:


You're picking a really odd subject to troll on.

Pot, kettle, accusations despite identical coloration, etc.

At best.

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imagine606
02/25/25 9:02:29 PM
#289:


ModernPost posted...
My entire point is that because tailgating is so dangerous, intentionally doing the thing that makes tailgating dangerous is the exact wrong thing to do in that scenario if you actually care about avoiding an accident. I'm trying to turn over a new leaf and so I'm not going to be mean, but it's quite clear that you did not comprehend a single thing I have said in this topic.
That's fine, but then why are you and others going after people for saying that both are dangerous? If you want to go into reading comprehension, look at the posts I'm replying to and see what those actual posts are saying. That is what I'm arguing against, not anything else that's been said in other posts. It's a very simple concept.
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imagine606
02/25/25 9:04:33 PM
#290:


DrizztLink posted...
Pot, kettle, accusations despite identical coloration, etc.

At best.
If you could put together something better than, "YuR dUnKeD oN! i WiN oN tHe InTuRnEtZ" then you'd have half of a point there.
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DrizztLink
02/25/25 9:04:54 PM
#291:


imagine606 posted...
If you want to go into reading comprehension, look at the posts I'm replying to and see what those actual posts are saying.
They said.

In reply to a person they directly insulted multiple times in replies to their posts.

To a person who has repeatedly stated both are dangerous.

If you could put together something better than, "YuR dUnKeD oN! i WiN oN tHe InTuRnEtZ" then you'd have half of a point there.
And if you were talking to the people you think you're talking to, you'd actually have a point.

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imagine606
02/25/25 9:14:37 PM
#292:


DrizztLink posted...
They said.

In reply to a person they directly insulted multiple times in replies to their posts.

To a person who has repeatedly stated both are dangerous.

And if you were talking to the people you think you're talking to, you'd actually have a point.
My first post on this page was me saying I didn't see anyone supporting brake checking, just saying that both were bad. Asherlee was correct that one person was, but that's still it. One person.

My second one was to someone saying that people saying both were bad are justifying it. Saying both are bad is not justifying either person.

That was where people started trying to argue with me. It started with the other dude, then you jumped on it as well. I'm still trying to figure out where anything I said was wrong. If you guys were being sarcastic from the start you should have just said it, used italics, something like that. Sarcasm doesn't come across in type without something like that.
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DrizztLink
02/25/25 9:19:57 PM
#293:


imagine606 posted...
It started with the other dude
The one who was making the same point as you (but you still haven't figured that part out).

imagine606 posted...
then you jumped on it as well.
Yes, because this is honestly hilarious.

imagine606 posted...
If you guys were being sarcastic from the start you should have just said it, used italics, something like that.
You're screwing up reading the actual written words, how will making them all slanty improve anything?

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imagine606
02/25/25 9:29:38 PM
#294:


DrizztLink posted...
The one who was making the same point as you (but you still haven't figured that part out).

Yes, because this is honestly hilarious.

You're screwing up reading the actual written words, how will making them all slanty improve anything?
No, they're not making the same point as me. They're saying that they're justifying it. I'm saying that by saying both are bad it's not justifying it. To say that they are is wrong.

You have an odd sense of humor.

I'm still trying to figure out where you're getting this from. In fact, ModernPost flat out said that I was saying it was okay when I never said that. You're really the one that's the pot calling the kettle black with that one.

I mean, what does this look like to you (#267)?
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That's not justifying brake checking, that's saying that people shouldn't be tailgating, which is the reason people brake check. Anyone who does either is a moron who shouldn't be on the road.
"I'm not justifying brake checking, I'm just saying that it's okay to do it if you want to."

That's what you people sound like.
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That's pretty direct there. I flat out called both morons and was accused of calling brake checking okay, that's what started it. There's no reading comprehension issues, it's plain as day.
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DrizztLink
02/25/25 9:42:45 PM
#295:


imagine606 posted...
I mean, what does this look like to you (#267)?
I'm not a cartographer, but it looks like "exactly what ModernPost has been saying the entire topic." With the whole "both are stupid and dangerous despite brake-checkers idiotically thinking otherwise" thing. You just included the whole "it's a reaction to dangerous behavior " argument that everyone else abandoned about 150 posts ago, because it's shit.

So, y'know, not sure what you're trying to prove there, but it's about as expected.

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imagine606
02/25/25 10:20:23 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
I'm not a cartographer, but it looks like "exactly what ModernPost has been saying the entire topic." With the whole "both are stupid and dangerous despite brake-checkers idiotically thinking otherwise" thing. You just included the whole "it's a reaction to dangerous behavior " argument that everyone else abandoned about 150 posts ago, because it's shit.

So, y'know, not sure what you're trying to prove there, but it's about as expected.
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Euripides
02/26/25 8:47:40 AM
#298:


I was on the highway for 6 hours yesterday.

You know who the worst tailgaters are?

THE FUCKING POLICE

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ReturnOfDevsman
02/26/25 8:55:00 AM
#299:


Euripides posted...
I was on the highway for 6 hours yesterday.

You know who the worst tailgaters are?

THE FUCKING POLICE
Don't drive
Don't drive
Don't drive so close to me

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ReturnOfDevsman
02/26/25 8:56:19 AM
#300:


Euripides posted...
I was on the highway for 6 hours yesterday.

You know who the worst tailgaters are?

THE FUCKING POLICE
They do this to try to catch speeders.

I dunno if the radar doesn't work while they're in motion or if it's just a distraction, but they'll tailgate someone they suspect of speeding and read their own speedometer to figure out how fast they're going.

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Euripides
02/26/25 9:06:01 AM
#301:


ReturnOfDevsman posted...
They do this to try to catch speeders.

I dunno if the radar doesn't work while they're in motion or if it's just a distraction, but they'll tailgate someone they suspect of speeding and read their own speedometer to figure out how fast they're going.

The end result being that it totally fucks up traffic because now the person in the passing lane is slowed down to the speed of the right lane (to stay under the speed limit) and now everyone is bunched up, all because the cop won't back the fuck off

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ReturnOfDevsman
02/26/25 9:07:26 AM
#302:


Euripides posted...
The end result being that it totally fucks up traffic because now the person in the passing lane is slowed down to the speed of the right lane (to stay under the speed limit) and now everyone is bunched up, all because the cop won't back the fuck off
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voldothegr8
02/26/25 9:48:10 AM
#303:


ReturnOfDevsman posted...
They do this to try to catch speeders.

I dunno if the radar doesn't work while they're in motion or if it's just a distraction, but they'll tailgate someone they suspect of speeding and read their own speedometer to figure out how fast they're going.
It's also a sober test, if a cop gets on your ass like that don't you dare swerve at all.

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