Current Events > Article on Schumer's upcoming book where he discusses 'antisemitism on the left'

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Southernfatman posted...

There are some bigots on the left, but there's an obvious campaign to paint all of the left and all criticsm of Israel as anti-Semitic to deflect and discredit their criticism of Israe'ls genocide and other awful acts. They've been doing that for decades now.

I wonder if this would explain his vote from the other day. Israel may have told him to help Trump since they're buddies.

See, this is actually a great, inadvertent example of accidental antisemitism from the Left. "Schumer made his votes because Israel pays him to."

Schumer is a 70 year old Jewish man from New York City. His politics on Israel are exactly what you'd expect from that demographic.

LightSnake posted...

See, this is actually a great, inadvertent example of accidental antisemitism from the Left. "Schumer made his votes because Israel pays him to."

Schumer is a 70 year old Jewish man from New York City. His politics on Israel are exactly what you'd expect from that demographic.

Oh knock that off. Anyone who takes money from a foreign government is obviously compromised in some fashion. It's not like it's an outrageous claim. If I were talking about some Republican and Russia you wouldn't be saying that.

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Your post:
"Extremist Muslims are a huge cause of Islamophobia, and that includes KSA. I have never once received pushback for saying that in any leftist space. Your gimmick fucking sucks."

Typical Shock post. Be an asshole, throw out insults, act horrified when anyone pushes back. Just like how you were squealing at anyone who dared insinuate your concern for Gaza was anything less than pure and righteous. Then when Trump was elected, it vanished. Probably about as real as your supposed participation in any leftist space, since that'd require real work from you and not just attempting to gain internet clout. Fuck off.

Southernfatman posted...

Oh knock that off. Anyone who takes money from a foreign government is obviously compromised. It's not like it's an outrageous claim.

AIPAC is a lobbying funded entirely by Americans. There are laws against foreign governments contributing to senators.

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LightSnake posted...

I think you missed the point.

The left actively pushes back against using Muslim state or terrorist actions as justification for Islamophobia. For ISrael it's "well, what do you expect? You need to actively prove you're a good one."

I think that westetn governments bending over backwards to normalize and justify the decades long genocide of Palestinians is a singularly significant force that drives antisemitism and tackling it would be the easiest way to greatly dismantle anti-semitic sentiments. I do not believe there is an equivalent state/government factor regarding Islamophobia.

That said, The things you are pretending to be happening in significant numbers in your attempted propaganda are obviously not right to do.

LightSnake posted...

AIPAC is a lobbying funded entirely by Americans. There are laws against foreign governments contributing to senators.

You really think Israel has absolutely nothing to do with it at all? As for the law against foreign governments donating to politicians, it's almost an equivalent of money laundering. They launder their bribes through lobbying groups to make the donations "clean". Russia, China, or whoever else does the same thing.

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Me neither.

And every time I've asked who one of them was, I wish I hadn't.

Southernfatman posted...

You really think Israel has absolutely nothing to do with it at all? As for the law against foreign governments, it's almost an equivalent of money laundering. They launder their bribes through lobbying groups to make the donations "clean".

If you have evidence of ISrael's government paying private citizens to launder money, provide it. Again, just take a second and step back here. Chuck isn't pro-Israel because he's paid for it. A lot of people funding AIPAC are American Jews who love Israel and they don't need to be corrupt to do that.

Sheldon Adelson was a billionaire who funneled enormous amounts into pro-Israel causes. He was an asshole for many reasons, but nobody needed to bribe him for it.

Liberal and atheist Jews have to walk on eggshells.

Constantly told we're not loyal enough when we're smart enough to know we'd be rounded up all the same if the Holocaust were ever to be repeated.

Starks posted...

Liberal and atheist Jews have to walk on eggshells.

Constantly told we're not loyal enough when we're smart enough to know we'd be rounded up all the same if the Holocaust were ever to be repeated.

Right here in this topic is a usually very good poster insinuating a Jewish senator is only pro-Israel because he's paid to do so and then doubling down on it.

Like Schumer can suck and that can still be an off color accusation

LightSnake posted...

Right here in this topic is a usually very good poster insinuating a Jewish senator is only pro-Israel because he's paid to do so and then doubling down on it.

Like Schumer can suck and that can still be an off color accusation

Where did I say that. I'm talking about the overall environment of anti-semitism.

Starks posted...

Where did I say that.

Not you, I was referring to someone else. You I was agreeing with

ai123 posted...

Me neither.

And every time I've asked who one of them was, I wish I hadn't.

My exposure to Hasan was him reacting to cringe tiktoks. That was pretty fun, but once I started watching his other content, I was quickly annoyed by his tendency to get wrapped up and say some really stupid things, but unfortunately, he is a major influence on younger people.

LightSnake posted...

If you have evidence of ISrael's government paying private citizens to launder money, provide it. Again, just take a second and step back here. Chuck isn't pro-Israel because he's paid for it. A lot of people funding AIPAC are American Jews who love Israel and they don't need to be corrupt to do that.

Sheldon Adelson was a billionaire who funneled enormous amounts into pro-Israel causes. He was an asshole for many reasons, but nobody needed to bribe him for it.

Come on. You really think Israel has nothing to do with AIPAC or any other country with their own lobbies? Again, if I was talking about any other country we wouldn't be having this conversation.

It's not even about loving or being loyal to Israel, but contributing a vote to help Donald fucking Trump. 99% of the party was saying it was a bad idea, but Schumer and a few others did it anyway. I really don't believe he's that stupid to think it's a good idea. I think he probably had some help to come to that decision.

But now I'm an Anti-semite because I think there's that possibility.

LightSnake posted...

Right here in this topic is a usually very good poster insinuating a Jewish senator is only pro-Israel because he's paid to do so and then doubling down on it.

Like Schumer can suck and that can still be an off color accusation

I'm not talking about a regular American citizen who is Jewish. I'm talking about a politician who is a party leader. There is a difference.

The Israeli government is committing a genocide against the people of Gaza. There's overwhelming evidence to support this and it's not antisemitic to say so because the Israeli government is not representative of all Jewish people.

While not directly elected, Netanyahu has been serving as Prime Minister for the greater part of 2 decades. The people of Israel did elect the people that continue to appoint him. They can be criticized for their involvement in a government committing genocide. It is not antisemitic to say "The majority of Israeli people elected a pro-genocide government" because the majority of Israeli people that voted for this government are also not representative of all Jewish people.

Anyone, including Jewish people, who support Israel's genocidal actions are, not surprisingly, supporting genocidal actions. It is not antisemitic to criticize anyone supporting genocidal actions because, and say it with me now, they are not representative of all Jewish people.

That's it. It's that simple. If someone, left, right, or middle (and I see a LOT of antisemitism within the self-proclaimed "middle") says all Jews are genocidal, or all Jews are bad because Israel is bad, or all Israeli people are bad because they're genocidal or because they're Jewish, then those people abso-fucking-lutely deserve to be criticized for it.

Southernfatman posted...

Come on. You really think Israel has nothing to do with AIPAC. Again, if I was talking about any other country we wouldn't be having this conversation.

AIPAC regularly meets with Israeli officials and works with them. They aren't being paid to do it. Foreign agents exist, they also register. There are people who lobby on behalf of other governments. Most people in AIPAC are in it because they love and agree with Israeli, not because they're corrupt. It's why being an unregistered foreign agents is an offense.

It's not even about loving or being loyal to Israel, but contributing a vote to help Donald fucking Trump. 99% of the party was saying it was a bad idea, but Schumer and others did it anyway. What does that say?

That Schumer is a feckless coward but also that he didn't want a shutdown? There are plenty of reasons for that and not one involves "ISrael told him to."

I'm not talking about a regular American citizen who is Jewish. I'm talking about a politician who is a party leader. There is a difference.

Schumer, again, is a 70 year old Jewish man from Brooklyn. Why is it a shock he has the politics of a 70 year old Jewish man from Brooklyn? There's a reason so many Jewish boomers vote for him.

Being an aipac cheerleader is a choice, the money is just gravy.

LightSnake posted...

AIPAC regularly meets with Israeli officials and works with them. They aren't being paid to do it. Foreign agents exist, they also register. There are people who lobby on behalf of other governments. Most people in AIPAC are in it because they love and agree with Israeli, not because they're corrupt. It's why being an unregistered foreign agents is an offense.

I'm sure there are some well meaning people in AIPAC, but any lobbying group in the name of another country that gives millions if not billions of dollars to politicians for obvious political favors is pretty damn suspect. I were talking about any other country we wouldn't have this conversation.

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Right, but now I'm an anti-Semite for daring to question it.

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schumer isnt paid to be pro Israel. AIPAC raises money for him because hes pro Israel.

I grew up around that very demographic. You dont need to pay them at all to support Israel

Southernfatman posted...

I'm sure there are some well meaning people in AIPAC, but any lobbying group in the name of another country that gives millions if not billions of dollars to politicians for obvious political favors is pretty damn suspect. I were talking about any other country we wouldn't have this conversation.

Right.

people in the US want their political ends accomplished. For a lot of people in the US, especially Schumers demographic, supporting Israel is a desirable political end and they want to see it done. A lot of politicians witj them as constituents are elected by being pro Israel. Theyre not paid for it. Youre just insinuating Schumer has no beliefs beyond what israel pays him and you dont see how that comes off?

Schumer was super pro Israel before he became a politician. His entire synagogue is pro Israel. He was born in 1954, one of an entire generation that told him Israel was necessary for Jewish security.

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The distinction is saying that many people in the US love Israel and fund AIPAC, who fund politicians, vs saying that a politician receives orders from the Israeli government and that AIPAC is funded by the Israeli treasury.

Particularly, the reach that Schumer voted yes on the CR because of an order from Israel based on the fact he was funded by AIPAC. That's like multiple layers of conspiracy.

Based on his remarks, it's pretty clear he takes AIPAC money because he agrees with them, rather than that he agrees with them because he wants their money. He's not in a seat that really needs campaign funding from AIPAC anyway.

LightSnake, if you legitimately don't think Schumer is influenced by the lobbying money he gets then you've lost it. This isn't even about AIPAC alone, it's just part of the problem with the whole lobbying "industry" in general. It literally is how politicians are bought.

Enclave posted...

LightSnake, if you legitimately don't think Schumer is influenced by the lobbying money he gets then you've lost it. This isn't even about AIPAC alone, it's just part of the problem with the whole lobbying "industry" in general. It literally is how politicians are bought.

im not talking the entire lobbying industry. A Jewish boomer from Brooklyn doesnt need to be paid to support Israel. Holy hell, Schumer is relatively moderate by the standards of some folks from his synagogue

I've still not seen much antisemitism from the left. I mostly just see ppl accusing anyone not in support of Israel's actions as antisemitic.

I'm sure there's some dumbass somewhere who said something, but who's the lefts Elon?

LightSnake posted...

people in the US want their political ends accomplished. For a lot of people in the US, especially Schumers demographic, supporting Israel is a desirable political end and they want to see it done. A lot of politicians witj them as constituents are elected by being pro Israel. Theyre not paid for it. Youre just insinuating Schumer has no beliefs beyond what israel pays him and you dont see how that comes off?

Schumer was super pro Israel before he became a politician. His entire synagogue is pro Israel. He was born in 1954, one of an entire generation that told him Israel was necessary for Jewish security.

Doe posted...

The distinction is saying that many people in the US love Israel and fund AIPAC, who fund politicians, vs saying that a politician receives orders from the Israeli government and that AIPAC is funded by the Israeli treasury.

Particularly, the reach that Schumer voted yes on the CR because of an order from Israel based on the fact he was funded by AIPAC. That's like multiple layers of conspiracy.

Based on his remarks, it's pretty clear he takes AIPAC money because he agrees with them, rather than that he agrees with them because he wants their money. He's not in a seat that really needs campaign funding from AIPAC anyway.

He can still be pro Israel, but those donations can still help sway opinions. Same goes for all the others people who take AIPAC money. I'd say the same thing about some Republican and Russia, but I wouldn't be seen as a bad guy or bigot for that. Same for when oil lobbies bribe politicians.

You guys really don't see how donation money might sway some politicians' opinion on things? You guys really think that money didn't affect Democrats' and Biden's actions regarding Israel?

Enclave posted...

LightSnake, if you legitimately don't think Schumer is influenced by the lobbying money he gets then you've lost it. This isn't even about AIPAC alone, it's just part of the problem with the whole lobbying "industry" in general. It literally is how politicians are bought.

This. Lobbyists are there to influence and get their way.

"If we can get people to focus on arguing about whether or not they're antisemitic they won't notice that we're taking in a shit ton of bribes from Pro-Israel groups and defense contractors so that our military can continue to meddle with the affairs of the Middle East, particularly when and where it concerns the price of oil." - Everybody in Congress, probably

Look at my opposition leadership dawg we are going to get trampled
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Southernfatman posted...

He can still be pro Israel, but those donations can still help sway opinions. Same goes for all the others people who take AIPAC money. I'd say the same thing about some Republican and Russia, but I wouldn't be seen as a bad guy or bigot for that. Same for when oil lobbies bribe politicians.

You guys really don't see how donation money might sway some politicians' opinion on things? You guys really think that money didn't affect Democrats' and Biden's actions regarding Israel?

This. Lobbyists are there to influence and get their way.

Okay, but do you see how "taking lobbying money can influence a politician's future decisions, even if they already agree with the lobbyists" is a pretty huge retreat from "Schumer is an agent of Israel taking vote orders from the Israeli government and paid with the money of Israeli actors"? I agree about how lobbying works, but that's not what was being said in post 41.

Of all the Jewish people I know online or in person, which includes one Trumper, I don't know a single one who supports genocidal actions (the Trumper might but so far has not admitted to it). Most of those who participate in left-leaning spaces - and many don't any more unless they are specifically Jewish left-leaning spaces - have been accused of it.

Dismissiveness of antisemitism is itself antisemitic. The insinuation that Jews are using it to cover for Israel is antisemitic. Jewish people not being allowed a voice in discussions about antisemitism is antisemitic. And all of that is distressingly normal in leftist spaces.

The_cranky_hermit posted...

Of all the Jewish people I know online or in person, which includes one Trumper, I don't know a single one who supports genocidal actions (the Trumper might but so far has not admitted to it). Most of those who participate in left-leaning spaces - and many don't any more unless they are specifically Jewish left-leaning spaces - have been accused of it.

Dismissiveness of antisemitism is itself antisemitic. The insinuation that Jews are using it to cover for Israel is antisemitic. Jewish people not being allowed a voice in discussions about antisemitism is antisemitic. And all of that is distressingly normal in leftist spaces.

You really don't know any Jewish people who support Netanyahu? If so you're in a good social circle.

LightSnake posted...

im not talking the entire lobbying industry. A Jewish boomer from Brooklyn doesnt need to be paid to support Israel. Holy hell, Schumer is relatively moderate by the standards of some folks from his synagogue

But see, this IS about the entire lobbying industry, you're just carving out an exception for Jewish politicians receiving funding from AIPAC, I'm guessing because of the anti-Semitic tropes of Jewish people and money.

Chuck Schumer is a corrupt politician who is influenced by groups that give him money regardless of who those groups represent and this is equally true of politicians in general.

It's not anti-Semitism when you're pointing out that a PAC is doing exactly what all PACs are designed to do, buy politicians, use money to buy influence.

This is an argument that goes back to the 261 days, some people on this board have a blind spot for AIPAC that they don't have for any other PAC and I'm fairly convinced it's because of a somewhat understandable knee jerk reaction to wanting to hit back at common anti-Semitic tropes but AIPAC is a PAC and one with a hell of a lot of money that they use to buy influence, they don't do this because they're a Jewish representing group though, they do it because they're a PAC and this is what PACs do.

Southernfatman posted...

He can still be pro Israel, but those donations can still help sway opinions. Same goes for all the others people who take AIPAC money. I'd say the same thing about some Republican and Russia, but I wouldn't be seen as a bad guy or bigot for that. Same for when oil lobbies bribe politicians.

You guys really don't see how donation money might sway some politicians' opinion on things? You guys really think that money didn't affect Democrats' and Biden's actions regarding Israel?

This. Lobbyists are there to influence and get their way.

As pointed out, youve retreated from the original argument here.

I dont think Biden needed money. I think hes a staunch Zionist. Hes made that clear many times since the start of his political career. Hes always loved israel, going back to the 1970s. Did he somehow miss the pro Apartheid money when he was vehemently anti-South Africa in the 80s despite a powerful lobbying presence there too?

money can have influence. That doesnt mean politicians dont have beliefs and principles. Theres no money you can pay Trump to not be racist and no money you could pay Schumer to not be pro-Israel.

Enclave posted...

But see, this IS about the entire lobbying industry, you're just carving out an exception for Jewish politicians receiving funding from AIPAC, I'm guessing because of the anti-Semitic tropes of Jewish people and money.

Chuck Schumer is a corrupt politician who is influenced by groups that give him money regardless of who those groups represent and this is equally true of politicians in general.

It's not anti-Semitism when you're pointing out that a PAC is doing exactly what all PACs are designed to do, buy politicians, use money to buy influence.

This is an argument that goes back to the 261 days, some people on this board have a blind spot for AIPAC that they don't have for any other PAC and I'm fairly convinced it's because of a somewhat understandable knee jerk reaction to wanting to hit back at common anti-Semitic tropes but AIPAC is a PAC and one with a hell of a lot of money that they use to buy influence, they don't do this because they're a Jewish representing group though, they do it because they're a PAC and this is what PACs do.

theyre using money to lobby to achieve their political ends. What in Chuck Schumers history or background suggests hed be open to the opposite if he was not being lobbied by AIPAC.

like just say Schumers stance sucks! It does! It doesnt need to suck because nefarious Jews are paying him to have it

Link_of_time posted...

I'm sure there's some dumbass somewhere who said something, but who's the lefts Elon?

Who's the left's Richard Spencer? Or Nick Fuentes? And how often have they privately dined with, oh, say, Obama?

As others have said, Schumer is just a stereotypical Jewish guy from Brooklyn. He doesn't need to be paid for this. Politicians fitting neatly into corruption is not a new thing.

ImagineUsngAlts posted...

You really don't know any Jewish people who support Netanyahu?

I know exactly one (this is the Trumper), and I try not to make a habit of talking to him. I also know one who is pretty out of touch with world politics and likely doesn't really have an opinion.

Every single other Jewish person I know despises both Netanyahu and Trump and would like to see both of them in prison.

The full interview is really worth your read
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/16/magazine/chuck-schumer-interview.html

LightSnake posted...

theyre using money to lobby to achieve their political ends. What in Chuck Schumers history or background suggests hed be open to the opposite if he was not being lobbied by AIPAC.

like just say Schumers stance sucks! It does! It doesnt need to suck because nefarious Jews are paying him to have it

I have never bought the idea that a persons decisions are completely uninfluenced by the people giving them money.

Also you know damn well that my position here has nothing to do with anybody involved being Jewish, I've been incredibly consistent throughout the years of having this opinion about PACs, I think they shouldn't exist. We've discussed this before back on 261.

Doe posted...

Okay, but do you see how "taking lobbying money can influence a politician's future decisions, even if they already agree with the lobbyists" is a pretty huge retreat from "Schumer is an agent of Israel taking vote orders from the Israeli government and paid with the money of Israeli actors"? I agree about how lobbying works, but that's not what was being said in post 41.

LightSnake posted...

As pointed out, youve retreated from the original argument here.

I dont think Biden needed money. I think hes a staunch Zionist. Hes made that clear many times since the start of his political career. Hes always loved israel, going back to the 1970s. Did he somehow miss the pro Apartheid money when he was vehemently anti-South Africa in the 80s despite a powerful lobbying presence there too?

money can have influence. That doesnt mean politicians dont have beliefs and principles. Theres no money you can pay Trump to not be racist and no money you could pay Schumer to not be pro-Israel.

I don't see how my posts are any different. Even if these folks liked Israel before doesn't mean getting more money is out of the question for them. It seems all these top Democrats have or are trying to get enough money to ride out the shit storm Trump is causing. They don't care because their way of life won't be disrupted because they have money. Schumer was doing a book tour before it was cancelled just like Jeffries was doing his own book tour.

And is it even any better if it wasn't about money and he did it just because he loves Israel that much? This isn't such an outrageous accusation anyway. Trump lets Israel do more evil so of course they'd like to return a favor.

LightSnake posted...

like just say Schumers stance sucks! It does! It doesnt need to suck because nefarious Jews are paying him to have it

This is the shit I was talking about. AGAIN, if we were talking about any other country we wouldn't be having this much of a back and forth. You're making this out to be bigoted when it isn't. This isn't about Jewish people. This is about Israel and their horrible government.

Enclave posted...

But see, this IS about the entire lobbying industry, you're just carving out an exception for Jewish politicians receiving funding from AIPAC, I'm guessing because of the anti-Semitic tropes of Jewish people and money.

Chuck Schumer is a corrupt politician who is influenced by groups that give him money regardless of who those groups represent and this is equally true of politicians in general.

It's not anti-Semitism when you're pointing out that a PAC is doing exactly what all PACs are designed to do, buy politicians, use money to buy influence.

This is an argument that goes back to the 261 days, some people on this board have a blind spot for AIPAC that they don't have for any other PAC and I'm fairly convinced it's because of a somewhat understandable knee jerk reaction to wanting to hit back at common anti-Semitic tropes but AIPAC is a PAC and one with a hell of a lot of money that they use to buy influence, they don't do this because they're a Jewish representing group though, they do it because they're a PAC and this is what PACs do.

Exactly. I think LS and others are seeing anti-Semitism when there isn't any in my posts. I understand to a degree, but I've never made any actual anti-Semetic comments in my long history on here or 261. Lightsnake should know that at least.

Southernfatman posted...

I don't see how my posts are any different. Even if these folks liked Israel before doesn't mean getting more money is out of the question for them. It seems all these top Democrats have or are trying to get enough money to ride out the shit storm Trump is causing.

I wonder if this would explain his vote from the other day. Israel may have told him to help Trump since they're buddies.

The material difference is whether you're claiming Schumer receives orders from the state of Israel

Board_hunter567 posted...

Any observed correlation between lobbying and voting record is just one big coincidence. Like this for instance
https://prospect.org/power/2023-01-26-chuck-schumer-tech-antitrust-bills/
Just coincidence and bad timing.

He wrote that money can have influence in the post you're responding to... I don't think it's surprising or odd to suggest that Schumer's base ideological stance on Israel has a larger magnitude than on specific antitrust cases or the fate of certain tech companies. How much AIPAC influences Schumer's decisions, in any case, i think is tangential to the root of the argument here, which is whether AIPAC is foreign influence, not whether it has any effect on politics.

Idk about Schumer's take on it, but there def is antisemetism in leftist spaces, ESPECIALLY online but it's a lot more misguided and nebulous, as opposed to like, usual right wing "I hate (insert any minority here)". Also doesn't help that there's things that explicitly aren't antisemetic that are being labeled as such, so it's hard to trust any accusation outright.

Southernfatman posted...

I don't see how my posts are any different. Even if these folks liked Israel before doesn't mean getting more money is out of the question for them. It seems all these top Democrats have or are trying to get enough money to ride out the shit storm Trump is causing. They don't care because their way of life won't be disrupted because they have money. Schumer was doing a book tour before it was cancelled just like Jeffries was doing his own book tour.

And is it even any better if it wasn't about money and he did it just because he loves Israel that much? This isn't such an outrageous accusation anyway. Trump lets Israel do more evil so of course they'd like to return a favor.

This is the shit I was talking about. AGAIN, if we were talking about any other country we wouldn't be having this much of a back and forth. You're making this out to be bigoted when it isn't. This isn't about Jewish people. This is about Israel and their horrible government.

Exactly. I think LS and others are seeing anti-Semitism when there isn't any in my posts. I understand to a degree, but I've never made any actual anti-Semetic comments in my long history on here or 261. Lightsnake should know that at least.

okay, understand I am not calling you antisemitic. I am saying you made a bad statement. And youve been doubling down on it. It was clearly inadvertent and I said youre often a very good poster.

this is emblematic of the very issue a lot of us are discussing. You dont need to posit a Jewish senator voted badly on a continuing resolution because Israel ordered it.

The_cranky_hermit posted...

I know exactly one (this is the Trumper), and I try not to make a habit of talking to him. I also know one who is pretty out of touch with world politics and likely doesn't really have an opinion.

Every single other Jewish person I know despises both Netanyahu and Trump and would like to see both of them in prison.

Then yeah, besides the Trumper (who would be fine with genocide if they support Netanyahu) of course they shouldn't be linked with Israel's current government and actions and doing so would be anti-Semitism.
I don't know any genuine progressives who would do that either though. As you say, progressives who do that are themselves covering for their own bigotry and from my experience tend to generalize and be bigoted to a number of other demographics that they personally don't care for too.