Current Events > Rewatched Spider-man (2002) for the first time in over 20 years *SPOILERS*

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Some miscellaneous thoughts on the movie.

Everyone was well cast, even all the side characters like the workers at the Daily Bugle.

The music was phenomenal and not afraid to be loud when needed. You don't really seem to hear such music in modern movies.

The cinematography is for the most part well done. Fights are easy to follow even when quick jump cuts are used. It is a shame so many modern movies can't do this right. (Not sure if modern directors don't understand cinematography or its done on purpose save money on CGI)

I forgot how brutal some of the movie was. Especially when Peter is hunting the man who killed Uncle Ben and the final fight in the ruins with Green Goblin.

The movie does a good job blending seriousness but still retaining a lot of the comic book cheesiness thought a lot of the movie.

When I first saw the movie I thought the Green Goblin was rather mediocre villain. How wrong old me was. He steals the show every scene he is in.

Most of special effects and CGI holds up pretty well. The only real big exception is when the Green Goblin is flying around in some parts of the parade fight. It looks really bad.

It is refreshing to watch a super hero movie that doesn't try to be a huge quip fest all the time.

I'm glad they essentially made Peter Parker be a huge dweeb throughout the whole movie. He has character growth but he doesn't transform into a flawless "cool" guy.

Something else I remembered, why did every movie years after the Matrix come out have to do a bullet time event? Spider-Man dodging a bunch of those flying cutters in slow motion had to be the most eye rolling part of the movie.

YellowSUV posted...

Something else I remembered, why did every movie years after the Matrix come out have to do a bullet time event? Spider-Man dodging a bunch of those flying cutters in slow motion had to be the most eye rolling part of the movie.

A scene like that kinda makes sense for Spider-Man to be fair, shows off his reaction times, agility and spider sense, all key powers of his.

Enclave posted...

A scene like that kinda makes sense for Spider-Man to be fair, shows off his reaction times, agility and spider sense, all key powers of his.

Good point. At least they didn't have a 360 camera dodge. Still seemed to be based off bullet time though.

YellowSUV posted...

It is refreshing to watch a super hero movie that doesn't try to be a huge quip fest all the time.

Although of all the superhero franchises, Spider-Man is one that would be remaining true to the character by being a quipfest

I love how Toby Maguire catching MJ's lunch tray items in the lunchroom was not CGI, even though the sequence almost looks like it is

YellowSUV posted...

Good point. At least they didn't have a 360 camera dodge. Still seemed to be based off bullet time though.

Trust me, I agree with you generally speaking about those sorts of effects being used at the time. Spidy is just an obvious situation where it was warranted. I imagine you probably wouldn't have had a problem with the scene at all if such scenes weren't so over-used even in situations where they weren't warranted.

AlCalavicci posted...

I love how Toby Maguire catching MJ's lunch tray items in the lunchroom was not CGI, even though the sequence almost looks like it is

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I kind of don't want to rewatch it, as I remember loving it when it came out, and I'm worried about tarnishing that. I rewatched the second and third one a few years ago (some friends were watching through all of the Spider-Man movies at the time, but I missed the first one) and they were worse than I remembered. Although that said, even when they first came out I had issues with them that I didn't have with the first one, so maybe I'm worrying for nothing.

DrizztLink posted...

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The scene in the lunchroom where MJ slips and her lunch tray items go up in the air, Parker catches them as they are falling in form of like a tower.

He legit did that. Not first take or anything, but it wasn't an effect

YellowSUV posted...

It is refreshing to watch a super hero movie that doesn't try to be a huge quip fest all the time.

Which is ironic, given that it's Spider-Man.

AlCalavicci posted...

The scene in the lunchroom where MJ slips and her lunch tray items go up in the air, Parker catches them as they are falling in form of like a tower.

He legit did that. Not first take or anything, but it wasn't an effect

...color me impressed

....I still despise the mask they went with for the Green Goblin. Whenever it is broken I cheer.

YellowSUV posted...

Everyone was well cast, even all the side characters like the workers at the Daily Bugle.

Agree except for Kirsten Dunst - she was not a good MJ.

AlCalavicci posted...

The scene in the lunchroom where MJ slips and her lunch tray items go up in the air, Parker catches them as they are falling in form of like a tower.

He legit did that. Not first take or anything, but it wasn't an effect

Well, that's my new trivia of the month. Just rewatched a clip of it and yeah, that was pretty good. "Good reflexes" indeed.

It wasn't quite like a tower; most of it did land on the tray, but one of the items did land on top of the other.

I loved Spiderman 1 and 2. They were really great. Its a shame how bad 3 was although it had its moments.

rick_alverado posted...

I kind of don't want to rewatch it, as I remember loving it when it came out, and I'm worried about tarnishing that. I rewatched the second and third one a few years ago (some friends were watching through all of the Spider-Man movies at the time, but I missed the first one) and they were worse than I remembered. Although that said, even when they first came out I had issues with them that I didn't have with the first one, so maybe I'm worrying for nothing.

I haven't watched any of these movies in a long time and had really fond memories of 2 and remember 1 being ok. Was honestly impressed how good 1 is. I wonder when I watch 2 if it will be as good as a I remember.

I remember 3 being a mess but very entertaining.

*Spoilers for Spider-Man 2 ahead*

I watched about first 30ish minutes of 2 and this movie is so far not even close to the quality of the 1st one. All it is basically repeating that Peter's life sucks because he is Spider-Man. The pacing is terrible. Stopped watching it, maybe will finish it later.

AlCalavicci posted...

The scene in the lunchroom where MJ slips and her lunch tray items go up in the air, Parker catches them as they are falling in form of like a tower.

He legit did that. Not first take or anything, but it wasn't an effect

what the fuck

looked it up, it took 156 takes lol that's incredible. I wonder how many it would have taken for them to just say "fuck it" and either do something else or CGI it

littlebro07 posted...

what the fuck

looked it up, it took 156 takes lol that's incredible. I wonder how many it would have taken for them to just say "fuck it" and either do something else or CGI it

Obligatory shout out to Michele Pfeiffer and her one take Catwoman whip scene that Im too lazy to find right now.

That macys day's parade that weirdly focuses on that lady singer always confused me as a kid because the camera gave her a huge amount of screen time, until I found out recently that back in the early 2000s she was this music singer that Sony really wanted to push so they featured her cameo heavily in that scene. It all fell into place then and there.

YellowSUV posted...

*Spoilers for Spider-Man 2 ahead*

I watched about first 30ish minutes of 2 and this movie is so far not even close to the quality of the 1st one. All it is basically repeating that Peter's life sucks because he is Spider-Man. The pacing is terrible. Stopped watching it, maybe will finish it later.

The fuck is this nonsense

YellowSUV posted...

*Spoilers for Spider-Man 2 ahead*

I watched about first 30ish minutes of 2 and this movie is so far not even close to the quality of the 1st one. All it is basically repeating that Peter's life sucks because he is Spider-Man. The pacing is terrible. Stopped watching it, maybe will finish it later.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/4/4608b8af.jpg

AlCalavicci posted...

I love how Toby Maguire catching MJ's lunch tray items in the lunchroom was not CGI, even though the sequence almost looks like it is

IIRC they just did a shitload of takes until Tobey finally nailed it

YellowSUV posted...

*Spoilers for Spider-Man 2 ahead*

I watched about first 30ish minutes of 2 and this movie is so far not even close to the quality of the 1st one. All it is basically repeating that Peter's life sucks because he is Spider-Man. The pacing is terrible. Stopped watching it, maybe will finish it later.

bro what

Spider-Man 2 is one of the greatest superhero movies of all time

Finish the damn movie >_>

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Another:

https://youtu.be/FF44YvDVP8Y

littlebro07 posted...

bro what

Spider-Man 2 is one of the greatest superhero movies of all time

Finish the damn movie >_>

Respectfully: This. Spider-Man 2 rules.

The first one is also great. I try to forget 3 exists.

Westernwolf4 posted...

I try to forget 3 exists.

but the memes

I saw it for the first time recently. I was shocked at just how quickly it moved along. I expected it to take about half the movie before he got bit and became Spiderman, but it happened damn near right away.

littlebro07 posted...

but the memes

I swear to God this is exactly what my oldest son said when I told him how much I hate that movie.

I felt old and in the way, and had to wrap up in an afghan and go lie down for a while.

I should rewatch this one. It's been forever so I've seen it and I only have the vaguest recollection.

I mostly remember that back then, I wasn't all that impressed, even though I ended up really liking 2 and 3. But everyone else seems to really like it, so maybe if I went back all this time later I'd appreciate it more.

saspa posted...

That macys day's parade that weirdly focuses on that lady singer always confused me as a kid because the camera gave her a huge amount of screen time, until I found out recently that back in the early 2000s she was this music singer that Sony really wanted to push so they featured her cameo heavily in that scene. It all fell into place then and there.

Macy Gray was a big deal at the time - her first album in 1999 hit #4 on the US Charts and her 2001 album hit #11. The film was mostly shot in 2001, so yeah that makes sense - they were trying to get her 2nd album to be a bigger hit, and she was signed to a Sony record label at the time, so it does all fit together.

As to the movie...I gotta say it's one of the best superhero origin story movies, and Spider-Man 2 was even better. Shame that Sony's meddling ruined Spider-Man 3

It feels too sincere

Where the fuck are the quips?

Bonesaw is mvp

refmon posted...

It feels too sincere

Where the fuck are the quips?

That's a nice comment there. Did your boyfriend make it for you?

saspa posted...

That macys day's parade that weirdly focuses on that lady singer always confused me as a kid because the camera gave her a huge amount of screen time, until I found out recently that back in the early 2000s she was this music singer that Sony really wanted to push so they featured her cameo heavily in that scene. It all fell into place then and there.

She was big back then. I remember her being on the radio and doing TV theme songs back then.

SSj4Wingzero posted...

Shame that Sony's meddling ruined Spider-Man 3

And The Amazing Spider-Man 1 and 2.

PS - I doubt it needs to be said, but Raimi's Flash > MCU's Flash.

murrica posted...

Another:

https://youtu.be/FF44YvDVP8Y

lol nice

I've already seen Spider-Man 2, granted it was 20 years ago. I remember it was my favorite of the trilogy. That said, the pacing in the first 30 minutes is really bad. 1 knows how to move while it doesn't feel like anything has too little screen time. There are too many sequences that relay the same key information in 2: Peter Parker's life sucks because he is Spider-Man. This was pretty obvious with the pizza delivery scene in the opening, we don't need to see 10 million ways this can repeat. I stopped watching after Peter was late to the play because he had to do Spider-Man business. So far the only scene that wasn't about his life sucking was the introduction of Otto.

Westernwolf4 posted...

I swear to God this is exactly what my oldest son said when I told him how much I hate that movie.

I felt old and in the way, and had to wrap up in an afghan and go lie down for a while.

But Bully Maguire.

YellowSUV posted...

Good point. At least they didn't have a 360 camera dodge. Still seemed to be based off bullet time though.

That was a huge innovation in special effects, of course lots of other big-budget movies wanted to get in on the trend.

Alright, finished re watching Spider-Man 2. After the terrible pacing of the first 30 minutes the rest of the movie is still as great as I remember.

murrica posted...

Another:

https://youtu.be/FF44YvDVP8Y

I am a big fan of the Alien franchise (not this one particularly, but still), and only found out about this a few weeks ago. We were discussing these movies and a friend mentioned that Weaver actually hit that shot. I told him flat out he was full of shit, and he sent me this video.

I am delighted to be wrong. What a cool thing!

YellowSUV posted...

. All it is basically repeating that Peter's life sucks because he is Spider-Man

From what I understand, this has been every Spider-Man comic plotline for the last twenty years lmao

Westernwolf4 posted...

I swear to God this is exactly what my oldest son said when I told him how much I hate that movie.

I felt old and in the way, and had to wrap up in an afghan and go lie down for a while.

I saw Spider-Man 3 once and it was for free at an early employee screening since I was working at a theater at the time. I have had no desire to ever revisit it since. I only own a copy on 4K because it was the only way to get the first two films and I've never even taken the disc out of the case. I've watched every other Spider-Man film dozens of times.

PeteyParker posted...

I saw Spider-Man 3 once and it was for free at an early employee screening since I was working at a theater at the time. I have had no desire to ever revisit it since. I only own a copy on 4K because it was the only way to get the first two films and I've never even taken the disc out of the case. I've watched every other Spider-Man film dozens of times.

Same. I have seen 3 a grand total of twice, and hated it both times. I watch 1 and 2 over and over.

My most watched until Spiderverse, which I also cant seem to stop watching.

green goblin is still the best villain in a comic book movie

Dungeater posted...

green goblin is still the best villain in a comic book movie

YOU KNOW HOW MUCH IVE SACRIFICED????!!!!!

Defoe flew over the top and gave his all every scene, and it is glorious.