Current Events > Hundreds of Gazans protested Hamas today, inside Gaza no less!

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https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/25/world/middleeast/gaza-protests-hamas.html

"Palestinians protested in Gaza on Tuesday in a rare show of dissent against Hamas, with some chanting slogans critical of the armed groups grip on the territory after more than year of devastating war with Israel.

Videos verified by The New York Times showed groups of Gazans in the half-ruined streets in the northern town of Beit Lahiya. Some carried more neutral signs that opposed the continuation of the war, while others chanted slogans calling for Hamas to get out.

Gazans, at least publicly, tend to blame Israel for much of the death, destruction and hunger the war has brought. But at least some hold Hamas responsible, as well, for starting the conflict by leading the Oct. 7, 2023, attack on Israel, abducting 251 people to Gaza and continuing to fight rather than giving up its power in exchange for a cease-fire.

The anger appeared to have resurfaced after Israel last week abandoned a two-month cease-fire and resumed its bombardment of Gaza in an attempt to pressure Hamas to free more of the remaining hostages.

We want to continue until the bloodshed stops and Hamas leaves the Palestinian scene, said Ahmed al-Masri, a 35-year-old construction worker who said he had participated in the rally.

Ibrahim, 32, another Gazan who joined the protest, said he had arrived in downtown Beit Lahiya to buy food before stumbling into the crowd of demonstrators. He asked to be identified by his first name only for fear of retribution by Hamas.

He said the protesters message to Hamas was end the war and leave Gaza.

Since seizing full control of Gaza in 2007, Hamas has cracked down harshly on dissent by detaining critics and aggressively dispersing demonstrations against its policies. A 2018 Human Rights Watch report accused the group of routinely arresting and torturing opponents.

While at least some Gazans have quietly voiced frustrations with Hamas and criticisms of its leaders since the war began, few were willing to express them publicly.

Last year, Amin Abed, one of the few prominent critics of Hamas who remained inside Gaza, said he had been ambushed by the groups feared internal security forces. The masked officers beat him with hammers and metal bars, he said.

A spokesman for the Hamas government in Gaza suggested Mr. Abed and another dissident had been victims of criminal activity, adding that the Hamas-run Interior Ministry was investigating the episodes.

Hamas is still believed to command thousands of armed fighters despite concerted efforts by Israel to eliminate the militant group. During the two-month cease-fire with Israel that began in January, the group tried to reassert its dominance over the enclave.

Some Gazans fear any truce that would leave Hamas in control of Gaza would only make another war inevitable.

Without Hamas going away, the next war will only be a matter of time, said Helal Warshagha, 27, an activist from Beit Lahiya who fled Gaza before Oct. 7, 2023.

Weve had enough of the war, destruction and killing, he added."

Hamas needs to be dismantled as a group.

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Doesn't this kind of fall on deaf ears when Israel is going to trample on any kind of Palestinian self-determination that emerges to replace Hamas?

Starks posted...

Doesn't this kind of fall on deaf ears when Israel is going to trample on any kind of Palestinian self-determination that emerges to replace Hamas?

They are sadly between a rock and a hard place, yeah. But their main concern now is for the massacres to stop, and they know Israel won't stop the massacres as long as Hamas is in power.

Starks posted...

Doesn't this kind of fall on deaf ears when Israel is going to trample on any kind of Palestinian self-determination that emerges to replace Hamas?

Anyone feel free to correct me here, haven't Israel played an active part in keeping Hamas' influence and power within Palestine because it's in Israel's interests to keep the relationship adversarial?
They know Hamas will always be antagonistic so Israel will always have grounds (not necessarily reasonable but perceivable) for action.

Starks posted...

Doesn't this kind of fall on deaf ears when Israel is going to trample on any kind of Palestinian self-determination that emerges to replace Hamas?

Probably, but Israel is hoping to complete their genocide in the not too distant future. When you and everyone you've ever known are going to be murdered, you'll try anything you can think of. All things considered, its not the worst plan. I doubt it will actually work though. At best drum up a little more international sympathy

Toppling the government is the only way they have a chance at surviving the next 4 years.

Good luck. Can't believe they only started this now but better late than never.

Starks posted...

Doesn't this kind of fall on deaf ears when Israel is going to trample on any kind of Palestinian self-determination that emerges to replace Hamas?

No. Protesters in Isreal will catch the sail and may help if they see this often enough. These people are taking a huge risk as hamas doesn't tolerate it.

FFTHEWINNER posted...

They are sadly between a rock and a hard place, yeah. But their main concern now is for the massacres to stop, and they know Israel won't stop the massacres as long as Hamas is in power.

This.

lovely_boy90 posted...

Anyone feel free to correct me here, haven't Israel played an active part in keeping Hamas' influence and power within Palestine because it's in Israel's interests to keep the relationship adversarial?
They know Hamas will always be antagonistic so Israel will always have grounds (not necessarily reasonable but perceivable) for action.

All correct sadly.

Scardude posted...

These people are taking a huge risk as hamas doesn't tolerate it.

This should be focused on a lot. Many people were tortured and killed by Hamas for daring to peacefully oppose them, so of course the population will be afraid.

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lovely_boy90 posted...

Anyone feel free to correct me here, haven't Israel played an active part in keeping Hamas' influence and power within Palestine because it's in Israel's interests to keep the relationship adversarial?
They know Hamas will always be antagonistic so Israel will always have grounds (not necessarily reasonable but perceivable) for action.

That's also why Netty Ice decided to ignore all the extremely credible information about the October attacks so that he could have a nice casus belli for his "please don't arrest/impeach me" distraction genocide.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/militants-warn-against-helping-israel-with-gaza-protests-2025-03-27/

Aaaand Hamas has threatened every single protester and basically called them traitors. No surprise there.