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Evening_Dragon
04/26/25 12:57:42 PM
#154:


ellis123 posted...
Tethering a series to a single person just because is simply bad writing.

Changing a protagonist for no reason is also bad writing. Generally, reason is pretty important for writing.

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WingsOfGood
04/26/25 12:58:09 PM
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Goderator posted...
it's cuz the definition of incel is so far removed from what it literally supposed to mean. so I wanna know what he is responding to exactly since he was probably talking about politics in video games or something irrelevant and got called an incel for it. then he goes well "hurr I guess that makes me an incel then". actual nonissue

even in that context how can you say the words he said are good?

"everyone should be an incel and if there is enough of us we can change the rules"

but yes no doubt that is what that is about

he went on a tirade when DEI was being cut out of the government having his victory lap

but you couldn't be bothered to watch a 5 min fucking video and you want me to pour through hours upon hours of streams to find some magic context to save this man's face when it is just ONE little bitty clip in a pile of many bad takes not to MENTION also I shared a completely different clip with you about an incel revolution which is what started me and you debating here

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vigorm0rtis
04/26/25 12:58:36 PM
#156:


Indifferent. The only time I've even seen that dude is in shorts where he's making an ass of himself with short-bus hot takes or a roach is crawling on him.
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ellis123
04/26/25 12:58:56 PM
#157:


Evening_Dragon posted...
Changing a protagonist for no reason is also bad writing. Generally, reason is pretty important for writing.
An author wanting to do a new perspective is a reason.

Thus is the power of "blank check" BS logic.

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Evening_Dragon
04/26/25 12:59:42 PM
#158:


ellis123 posted...
An author wanting to do a new perspective is a reason.

Yes. You can have a reason to do bad writing, didn't say otherwise. I'm getting the impression you're trying to win something that isn't really about winning.

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Antifar
04/26/25 1:01:01 PM
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Man you would've fucking hated William Faulkner

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ellis123
04/26/25 1:06:46 PM
#160:


Evening_Dragon posted...
Yes. You can have a reason to do bad writing, didn't say otherwise. I'm getting the impression you're trying to win something that isn't really about winning.
Since when was it bad writing? "Blank check" logic is merely just logic that gets to pretend that it was always correct post-hoc. Did the story suck? Then clearly the author didn't have a good reason. Did the story rock? Then the author clearly had a good reason. In both cases the reason was "because they had a story they wanted to tell," and the validity of the same thing being applied is sheerly based on the results: things that don't have anything to do with said reason. What matters is if they came up with a resonant story, which has nothing to do with any particular "reason."

And I'm merely explaining my position. If you view this as some sort of competition then clearly I'm wasting my time.

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Evening_Dragon
04/26/25 1:07:41 PM
#161:


Antifar posted...
Man you would've fucking hated William Faulkner
lmao, kinda wish I didn't know his schtick beforehand, that would adjust my perspective even if I didn't want it to.

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Goderator
04/26/25 1:07:48 PM
#162:


WingsOfGood posted...
even in that context how can you say the words he said are good?

"everyone should be an incel and if there is enough of us we can change the rules"

but yes no doubt that is what that is about

he went on a tirade when DEI was being cut out of the government having his victory lap

but you couldn't be bothered to watch a 5 min fucking video and you want me to pour through hours upon hours of streams to find some magic context to save this man's face when it is just ONE little bitty clip in a pile of many bad takes not to MENTION also I shared a completely different clip with you about an incel revolution which is what started me and you debating here
  1. cuz "everyone should be an incel and if there is enough of us we can change the rules" reads to me as "everyone should follow my agenda and if there is enough of us we can change the rules" without any further context
  2. idk why you are acting like the incel revolution clip is so damning. he was making an observation about a culture shift in third person. and he was right. that clip was months before trump was elected and we are experiencing a massive culture shift


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Srk700
04/26/25 1:08:22 PM
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Zikten posted...
He cries about series he never cared about "going woke". Like Dragon Age. He never touched the series before but he played the new one and complained about how the series is ruined.

Veilguard did kind of ruin the series. But it wasnt because of it going woke or whatever other nonsense Roach King came up with. The damage was due to lore related reasons (most notably it basically resetting the world so that none of the choices made in the 1st 3 games will have any impact going forward).
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WingsOfGood
04/26/25 1:15:58 PM
#164:


Goderator posted...
1. cuz "everyone should be an incel and if there is enough of us we can change the rules" reads to me as "everyone should follow my agenda and if there is enough of us we can change the rules" without any further context
2. idk why you are acting like the incel revolution clip is so damning. he was making an observation about a culture shift in third person. and he was right. that clip was months before trump was elected and we are experiencing a massive culture shift

Lol you trying really hard

"What he actually meant was!"

You do underatand your supposed cultural shift is literally incels right? Like actual angry young men who are mad at stuff like dating culture
This is asmongold's own opinion of it too
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Evening_Dragon
04/26/25 1:16:55 PM
#165:


ellis123 posted...
Since when was it bad writing? "Blank check" logic is merely just logic that gets to pretend that it was always correct post-hoc. Did the story suck? Then clearly the author didn't have a good reason. Did the story rock? Then the author clearly had a good reason. In both cases the reason was "because they had a story they wanted to tell," and the validity of the same thing being applied is sheerly based on the results: things that don't have anything to do with said reason. What matters is if they came up with a resonant story, which has nothing to do with any particular "reason."

And I'm merely explaining my position. If you view this as some sort of competition then clearly I'm wasting my time.

I agree with all this, with the exception that reasoning is still obviously necessary to results. You say as much yourself and then follow up with "it has nothing to do with reason".

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Evening_Dragon
04/26/25 1:18:32 PM
#166:


Antifar posted...
Man you would've fucking hated William Faulkner
follow up: Honestly I think you gave me a Thing for the week. I've been in a rut, and my local library has a couple of his books on hand, just checked.

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Dio
04/26/25 1:18:54 PM
#167:


Hey, Spirit, https://www.reddit.com/r/saltierthankrayt/comments/1k82m2x/no_improvement_whatsoever/ how do you feel about him saying this?

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Goderator
04/26/25 1:19:09 PM
#168:


WingsOfGood posted...
Lol you trying really hard

"What he actually meant was!"

You do underatand your supposed cultural shift is literally incels right? Like actual angry young men who are mad at stuff like dating culture
it literally doesn't matter what the culture shift is. he was just explaining that it was happening. what is the problem?
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dancing_cactuar
04/26/25 1:20:04 PM
#169:


evilpresident posted...
Why on earth would you watch a man who uses a rat as an alarm clock.
As someone who observes lolcows like Lowtiergod, Wingsofredemption, and DSP, you have just provided some extremely compelling evidence for why I should ironically watch Asmongold, that sounds way funnier than right wing political takes and him smearing blood from his gums on the walls or whatever that was.

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Evening_Dragon
04/26/25 1:21:07 PM
#170:


Dio posted...
Hey, Spirit, https://www.reddit.com/r/saltierthankrayt/comments/1k82m2x/no_improvement_whatsoever/ how do you feel about him saying this?

Goddamn, I couldn't shitpost something that bad if I tried. Like genuinely impressively awful take, I have to wonder if a chunk of his audience isn't the hatewatching kind.

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WingsOfGood
04/26/25 1:22:43 PM
#171:


Goderator posted...
it literally doesn't matter what the culture shift is. he was just explaining that it was happening. what is the problem?

Him:
Everyone should be an incel

Him:
If there is enough of us

Him:
also rejoicing over an incel revolution

Him:
Also
Discussing how angry young men are a cultural shift that led to Trump winning

Also he is an angry young man

Like where is all that logic he supposedly is so strong at? Use it
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Dio
04/26/25 1:27:09 PM
#172:


dancing_cactuar posted...
As someone who follows lolcows like Lowtiergod, Wingsofredemption, and DSP, you have just provided some extremely compelling evidence for why I should ironically watch Asmongold, that sounds way funnier than right wing political takes and him smearing blood from his gums on the walls or whatever that was.

Most of that is him playing a character. He pretends to be a poor homeless person. He's just a right-wing hoarder who plays up everything. His fans unironically love him for this.

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ellis123
04/26/25 1:29:23 PM
#174:


Evening_Dragon posted...
I agree with all this, with the exception that reasoning is still obviously necessary to results. You say as much yourself and then follow up with "it has nothing to do with reason".
I think I get where you're coming from.

Yes, reason has a part of the process but it is directly implied in the whole "the author has a desire to do a new perspective" line. As in, yes there is a reason beyond just simply "new perspective" but from the person who is experiencing it it is impossible to know without actually having the thing in the first place. Like, if we were to pretend that all of the stuff actively pointing out that Ciri was going to be the next MC (the ending of 3, the books, etc.) and all of the stuff that already existed that would tell us what the point of her being the MC is going to be (the books, mainly) then from the perspective of anyone who wasn't the author then it is impossible to say anything other than "the author wanted to have a new perspective" as a catch-all for any number of potentials for why there was a shift. In that line there is obviously going to be a reason from the author as to why they want the shift, but it is always impossible to know them beforehand a lot of the time. Hence why my comments are topically relevant as the whole anti-woke crowd does the grift based solely on vibes before launch, where it is impossible to actually discern any particular story beats beyond the most basic. Thus the "reason" is basically always just going to be boiled down to a base rationale: we know nothing, so the author's "only" reason is that they want to have a new perspective. And any other "reasons" end up only mattering to those that experience the narrative while paying attention with an active willingness to not just tether the series to the original MC (hence my MGS2 comment, as there were a non-trivial amount of people who didn't give Raiden anything close to a fair shake due to their unwillingness to move on from Snake).

So yeah, I'd agree with your point but it's not really a line that I was talking about.

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dancing_cactuar
04/26/25 1:31:48 PM
#175:


Dio posted...
Most of that is him playing a character. He pretends to be a poor homeless person. He's just a right-wing hoarder who plays up everything. His fans unironically love him for this.
That's lame then, I guess he really just is Hasan from the mirror universe where he's mostly a boring political lolcow with the occasional gem thrown in the mix like Hasan freaking the fuck out over sealife and how a blue whale could eat him or, in Asmongold's case, intentionally living in a house of trash with the worst hygiene in existence.

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Goderator
04/26/25 1:39:17 PM
#176:


WingsOfGood posted...
Him:
Everyone should be an incel

Him:
If there is enough of us

Him:
also rejoicing over an incel revolution

Him:
Also
Discussing how angry young men are a cultural shift that led to Trump winning

Also he is an angry young man

Like where is all that logic he supposedly is so strong at? Use it
Think
k gonna be honest, I don't really care to argue about whether some rich millionaire who grew up on 4chan and has nothing to do with me is an incel or not anymore. sorry!

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Yazarogi
04/26/25 2:10:58 PM
#177:


I find this sad AF. Weve fallen so far as a country

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WingsOfGood
04/26/25 2:11:36 PM
#178:


Goderator posted...
k gonna be honest, I don't really care to argue about whether some rich millionaire who grew up on 4chan and has nothing to do with me is an incel or not anymore. sorry!

Good

You shouldn't.
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AceMos
04/26/25 3:32:39 PM
#179:


defending this piece of shit should be a automatic ban

we legit have people defending him wanting to send children to work in mines


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Copyright2011
04/26/25 3:36:57 PM
#180:


I watch his stuff all the time.

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AceMos
04/26/25 3:39:16 PM
#181:


post 180 so do you agree with the awful things he says

the stuff he said about palastines being inferior do you agree with that?

do you agree with him when he says children should be forced to work in mines


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Mechu
04/26/25 3:42:41 PM
#182:


Jesus. I knew he was popular, but that's just fucking sad.
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Euripides
04/26/25 3:47:17 PM
#183:


I've never seen a second of his videos and I never will

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Zikten
04/26/25 3:49:35 PM
#184:


Mechu posted...
Jesus. I knew he was popular, but that's just fucking sad.
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dancing_cactuar
04/26/25 3:59:12 PM
#185:


Zikten posted...
Darkness is easier than light to embrace. People suck
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/abc88de7.jpg
Why the fuck was it so difficult to find this specific poster for the Robert Eggers Nosferatu

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ellis123
04/26/25 4:24:46 PM
#186:


dancing_cactuar posted...
Why the fuck was it so difficult to find this specific poster for the Robert Eggers Nosferatu
Because Google has become complete garbage.

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SilvosForever
04/26/25 4:33:37 PM
#187:


Asmongold - the guy who, to this day, thinks the Holocaust "probably" happened.

Every fucking thing you need to know about this chud.

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Zikten
04/26/25 4:45:53 PM
#188:


SilvosForever posted...
Asmongold - the guy who, to this day, thinks the Holocaust "probably" happened.

Every fucking thing you need to know about this chud.
He also thought that the nazis burned books written by Jewish authors not because of their contents but because "they were written in Jewish"

I found out they weren't even written in Hebrew. They were written in Germwn because the authors were German Jews
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SpiritSephiroth
04/26/25 7:21:43 PM
#189:


Zikten posted...
He cries about series he never cared about "going woke". Like Dragon Age. He never touched the series before but he played the new one and complained about how the series is ruined. Did the same thing with Witcher's next game trailer. Though he may have played Witcher 3. Not sure. But he's all upset because Witcher 4 changes the main character from the original man to a female character. Its set years later and I think the original is dead or retired so its fine from a story perspective. I've never actually played Witcher other than trying to play Witcher 1 for like an hour

But I thought Witcher 4 looks cool

He actually thought Veilguard was okay which pissed his chat off.

He even defended south of midnight.

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SpiritSephiroth
04/26/25 7:23:35 PM
#190:


Dio posted...
Hey, Spirit, https://www.reddit.com/r/saltierthankrayt/comments/1k82m2x/no_improvement_whatsoever/ how do you feel about him saying this?

I disagree.

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Piplup_Sniper
04/26/25 7:24:36 PM
#191:


SpiritSephiroth posted...
He actually thought Veilguard was okay which pissed his chat off.

He even defended south of midnight.
He also enjoyed avowed

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SpiritSephiroth
04/26/25 7:27:49 PM
#192:


Piplup_Sniper posted...
He also enjoyed avowed

Ahh yeah. He spent a lot of time on that. It's funny seeing the asshats rage in chat whenever he doesn't follow their general opinion.

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Lord_of_BeefDip
04/26/25 7:33:48 PM
#193:


Goderator posted...
k gonna be honest, I don't really care to argue about whether some rich millionaire who grew up on 4chan and has nothing to do with me is an incel or not anymore. sorry!

You don't care, yet have spent how much time and how many posts arguing and goalpost moving?
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Goderator
04/26/25 7:40:55 PM
#194:


Lord_of_BeefDip posted...
You don't care, yet have spent how much time and how many posts arguing and goalpost moving?
idk maybe you can extrapolate the data from the time of my first post and the last
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Mr_Karate_II
04/26/25 7:42:38 PM
#195:


Copyright2011 posted...
I watch his stuff all the time.
So you agree with the shit he spews?

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creativerealms
04/26/25 8:27:38 PM
#196:


While he is a lost cause Asmongold can still enjoy games. It doesn't last because than his audience reminds him he's suppose to hate a certain title and changes tune immediately.

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008Zulu
04/26/25 8:35:39 PM
#197:


ellis123 posted...
Because Google has become complete garbage.
I don't know why you spoilered it, it has been known for years.

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ellis123
04/26/25 8:38:45 PM
#198:


008Zulu posted...
I don't know why you spoilered it, it has been known for years.
Because the original was spoilered.

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Vyrulisse
04/26/25 9:38:27 PM
#199:


Asmon is also one of those guys that will put a ton of conditions on how you can question or debate the points he makes and if you actually get one up on him he'll just ban the person doing it and claim they were "using gotcha tactics" or some other bullshit.

Whenever he engages a chatter and gets put on the backfoot he will ban then talk a lot of shit unopposed and claim victory. He is a mentally weak individual in that regard and it extends to his gaming actually.

Notice he quits every game when it starts to challenge him or he can't brute force through something. It's why he quit WoW, it's why he quit FFXIV, it's why he's quit Fromsoft games multiple times.

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Despised
04/26/25 9:49:49 PM
#200:


I get all my new from atrioc


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W_S_C_M
04/26/25 9:52:53 PM
#201:


Piplup_Sniper posted...
https://x.com/Dexerto/status/1915850081317593241

How does that make you feel?
Dont care. Dont watch, never will
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Eramir
04/26/25 9:56:56 PM
#202:


I remember when he was dating a big titty Twitch streamer who was obviously using him for clout lmao

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Zikten
04/26/25 10:13:40 PM
#203:


Eramir posted...
I remember when he was dating a big titty Twitch streamer who was obviously using him for clout lmao
Was she white or asian, cause he has done this with 2 women that I know of.
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