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What's your favorite and why are the rest of them SHIT compared to it!?

Isaac got worse the more expansions it got.
Rebirth was peak.

Nowadays, Gungeon is king.

Hades is a damn near perfect game.

Stone Soup.

It's better than those as a Roguelike as it is actually like Rogue.

Turbam posted...

Hades is a damn near perfect game.

I got bored of it halfway thru. It got too repetitive for me >_>

Rogue

Isaac. another contender is Noita. Though this is just for lites, since the poll only has those.

I'm already thinking Mewgenics is going to be pretty good too from the looks.

Returnal is my favorite.

Dead Cells is my favorite

I'd say Hades is the best one.

But I have to give a special mention to Gunfire Reborn. I was looking for a new looter shooter that wasn't Borderlands, and that was one of the recommendations. Ended up really liking the Roguelite elements and started trying more games in the genre because of that.

Also, I've learned that I prefer roguelites, not roguelikes. If it doesn't have any persistent progression, then I end up not liking it.

my top 5 is prob

isaac
vampire survivors
slay the spire
balatro
hades

Other: none because I don't like Roguelikes.

I voted Hades based on reputation and horny tho. It's in my backlog.

Final Fantasy XIV's deep dungeons palace of the dead, heaven on high and eureka orthos. Definitely my favorite parts of xiv and incredibly fun roguelikes within what is otherwise an mmo.

They're made to be done as a party of four but they allow you to go in solo and there are achievements for doing it solo. Incredibly difficult to do solo because it doesnt scale and each xiv job has a very different solo experience in them.

The only darkest dungeon vote so far . Theres a ton of greats up there but DD is gonna take mine even though Hades probably deserves it.

everrr

Slay the spire. I've got like 1600 hours in it, and I'm looking forward to the sequel later this year.

The only reason that Hades is the best Roguelike right now is because Hades 2 is still in early access.

None of those games are rogue likes

These are rogue likes:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/98800/Dungeons_of_Dredmor/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/333640/Caves_of_Qud/
https://store.steampowered.com/app/837200/NetHack_Legacy/

NeonPhoenix posted...

I got bored of it halfway thru. It got too repetitive for me >_>

what do you mean by halfway through?

Dead Cells

Solo: Hades
Online: Risk of Rain 2

I don't like pseudo-"bullet hell" ones like Isaac or Gungeon because skill issue.

Tyranthraxus posted...

None of those games are rogue likes

shut up

Top 10 (including roguelites):

Across the Obelisk
Astronarch
Balatro
Cat God Ranch
Endgame of Devil
The Last Flame
Peglin
PokeRogue
Slay the Spire
Slice & Dice

As someone who has put more time into Binding of Isaac than the others...Hades.

you're out of your mind for not putting Slay the Spire on there. It's one of the most influential of them all

Hades is a masterpiece. However Risk of Rain 2 had the right things to keep me playing for a very long time.

Nethack. <_<

FTL is a top 5 game for me. I lose sense of time and self. More than once did I become conscious outside of the game and realize there was a small puddle of snot pooling on my lap, because it was like 5 degrees F and I forgot to put on a fire.

Slay the Spire by far for me. Balatro probably the distant second.

dancing_cactuar posted...

The only reason that Hades is the best Roguelike right now is because Hades 2 is still in early access.

Is Hades 2 looking to be the better game over the first? I havent kept up at all with how people think of the game so far.

I have purposely not seen any gameplay and will not get the game until its fully released from early access, but Im pretty excited to play it once it actually comes out since I loved the first one so much. Im just not a fan of playing incomplete/early access games.

Chrono Ark deserves to be on this list but I wouldnt say it beats Hades

Other: Nethack
Not joking.

DavidZ2844 posted...

Is Hades 2 looking to be the better game over the first?

Absolutely, disregarding how even now in its incomplete state the game already has double the content of the original, the refinements made to the gameplay are absolutely stellar.

Not a big rougelike guy. I enjoyed Hades, but I didn't love it the same way others did.

Blue Prince is the only one that grabbed me enough to keep playing.

thronedfire2 posted...

what do you mean by halfway through?

He didn't climaxed

Other: Cogmind

None of the ones in the vote are roguelikes.

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NetHack is, for all intents and purposes, Rogue 2

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Yeah. It's one of those ancient games like Dwarf Fortress that's been in development for decades.

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Welcome to Roguelikes.

Im going with Hades from that list, but also wanna mention Dead Cells.

Honorable mention to Slice & Dice. Hades and Vampire Survivors are my favorites.

GeneralKenobi85 posted...

Dead Cells is my favorite

+1

no other Noita mention so far. Noita really good.

ellis123 posted...

Stone Soup.

It's better than those as a Roguelike as it is actually like Rogue.

Oh man... That game has some of the best gameplay ideas ever. I especially love the way that game does religion. I REALLY wish other games would copy the way they do religion. It also integrates stealth surprisingly well (honestly it's one of the only turn-based games I've played where stealth feels like a viable option). And playing an Orc Shaman then creating my own cult of orcs to follow me around the dungeon was so much fun.

I eventually bounced off the game because while it has amazing potential, I felt it needed to be more polished and there was still a lot of room for improvement in terms of making all the elements work. Also the dungeon itself didn't have all that much personality. It also would be nice if the quest were a little more interesting than "go down, grab magical object, go back up again."

Has it changed in the last 10 years? Last time I checked, it seemed like the dev team had stopped working on it.

Also someone tell me about Nethack please
Steam summary says the original has been under development for 3 decades...

Nethack is an ancient roguelike that is indeed still under development (the dev team are currently working on version 3.7.0). Graphics, like Rogue, are ASCII. As is standard for roguelikes, the dungeon is randomly generated and death is permanent.

I believe the chief thing that appeals to me about Nethack is that it encourages and rewards mastery of trivia. Knowing which monsters can confer poison resistance when eaten without being poisonous to eat, or how to safely discern whether the "gray stone" you found is useful or troublesome, or which items, when cursed, become differently useful rather than useless, are all of significant value when playing Nethack. (And while some devotees may assert that the game is best experienced blind, if you are an adult without infinite time on your hands, you should feel no shame about consulting the wiki.)

It is also a game where the developers will include code such that if you eat a scroll with the randomized label "YUM YUM", the default scroll-eating message ("It tastes papery", IIRC) is replaced by "Yum". Note that you have to polymorph into a gelatinous cube in order to eat scrolls, and gain no particular benefit from doing so even then. Many of Nethack's little details are just there to be fun. If they are useful, that is a bonus.

However, I will say that there is a chief drawback, and it is tedium. Nethack's early game is exciting; dangerous, but exciting. (Except when the path forward is hidden behind a secret door, so you have to spam the search button until the game allows you to continue playing. That is just annoying. I understand version 3.7.0 intends to address it.) In the midgame, as you identify your accumulated loot and grow in power, many monsters will cease to be notable threats, but you'll still need good tactics for the exceptions. But in the lategame, most dungeon floors are randomly generated mazes with no interesting features, and the greatest threat to your character becomes your own carelessness. Things certainly do pick up again in the endgame, mind you...

Nethack is challenging, and will require a substantial time investment - my first win took me over 50 attempts (probably closer to 75, but I didn't keep an exact count), and that was with liberal use of the wiki. It is not a game for everyone. It is, however, most certainly a game for me.

action52 posted...

Oh man... That game has some of the best gameplay ideas ever. I especially love the way that game does religion. I REALLY wish other games would copy the way they do religion. It also integrates stealth surprisingly well (honestly it's one of the only turn-based games I've played where stealth feels like a viable option). And playing an Orc Shaman then creating my own cult of orcs to follow me around the dungeon was so much fun.

I eventually bounced off the game because while it has amazing potential, I felt it needed to be more polished and there was still a lot of room for improvement in terms of making all the elements work. Also the dungeon itself didn't have all that much personality. It also would be nice if the quest were a little more interesting than "go down, grab magical object, go back up again."

Has it changed in the last 10 years? Last time I checked, it seemed like the dev team had stopped working on it.

It still gets updates (its most recent one is from this month, in fact), the updates are just super inconsistent. And I would say it has changed, but not in a way that necessarily matters to you. There wasn't ever a story added (that I'm aware of, I haven't played in a long time either) as that's not really something that is particularly common in Roguelikes, and most of the changes aren't things that added sweeping core systems.

And ye, the game has so many different goofy ways to go about things. It really is king of the hill when it comes to the genre.