Current Events > UCLA graduate shows off how he cheated on final projects with ChatGPT

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https://x.com/FearedBuck/status/1935334136073404438

Good for him. I cheated my way through my zoom class this semester too and graduated. I used to use Chegg and homeworkify to cheat but homeworkify got shut down. And I discovered ChatGPT which was way better than homeworkify. Since you can also use it for personal questions.

His degree, like yours, should be revoked, and you both ought be retroactively expelled.

His degree, like yours, should be revoked, and you both ought be retroactively expelled.

'Ha ha, now everyone will admire me for the smart way I beat the system!'

I never put myself on camera like him. Reminds me of the song Rap snitches by MF Doom.

I dont give a shit how someone comes upon their degree, but schools can absolutely revoke degrees for admitting it on camera like this

A lot of schools dont even give the actual diploma at the ceremony so dude could be fucked

Never said I hope people will admire me. Was wondering if anyone else used ChatGPT in college.

Maybe I went multiple steps ahead and should ask if anyone here is even still in college lol.

College and grad school would have been a lot more pleasant if I had ChatGPT and other AIs.

Never once has crossed my mind to use them for cheating. For inspiration and cramming? Absolutely. I would have been a much better student if I had tools that could simply walk me through the material endlessly and explain every step.

Colleges do investigate and revoke.

No, sorry, I disagree. Earning a degree is meant to qualify you for a field. Emphasis on "earning." Plagiarizing your way to it, which is what AI is with the opposite of extra steps, makes you unworthy to it.

Well paying jobs are locked behind degrees. Life is tough out here on these streets and you gotta do what you gotta do to survive. So long as the dude isn't going into a field where he can kill someone then who cares?

The issue as I see it is whether or not the tool is sanctioned and widely available to the students in the course. If the use of the tool is unsanctioned, and against the course policies, it provides an advantage to those using it versus those that did not. This is entirely different than the alternative where its use is permitted and students can freely choose to use it as they fit.

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It is straight up cheating in the former case. This is a significant offense within academia and harms not just the cheater but those that did not. Depending on the severity, punishment is warranted from a zero to expulsion or degree revocation.

I'm not here to debate the merits of the AI use in college, but it is certainly cheating if its usage was not permitted.

No, sorry, I disagree. Earning a degree is meant to qualify you for a field. Emphasis on "earning." Plagiarizing your way to it, which is what AI is with the opposite of extra steps, makes you unworthy to it.

Most people are unworthy of their degrees if doing something underhanded at any point makes it so.

I think most have done something that wasnt always straight and narrow, even if thats just finding worksheets online.

Yeah, and working hard for those degrees is kinda important to a society? "Life's touch out there on the streets!"

Brother, this is a guy at a UCLA graduation with a laptop and a monthly subscription fee. I guarantee you that little fuck hasn't struggled one bit

Only suckers work hard. You gotta do what you gotta do.

Please tell us your achievements

ChatGPT is worse than that, and we know why. Even in the case of "find a study guide/worksheet online," setting aside one is still cheating, there is still "match the right answer to the question." Chat GPT is plagiarism, one of the cardinal sins in academia.

One time I shit posted so hard dtoast had to politely yet firmly ask me to stop.

The fact that he was stupid enough to show off that he cheated during graduation means that he doesn't deserve the degree.

Plagiarism is pretty common even without ChatGPT. Wasnt there an esteemed professor who was caught plagiarizing a few years ago? Its just an unfortunate reality.

I dont disagree that ChatGPT makes it easier, but I just dont view college degrees are an honorable thing at this point. Theyre basically a ticket to a decent life in the modern day.

Colleges will put kids into debt for life, I dont really care if some of the kids push back

The fact that he was stupid enough to show off that he cheated during graduation means that he doesn't deserve the degree.

Plagiarism is also a "if you're caught, there are consequences" offense. The least of which is failing the assingment. That doesn't and shouldn't change. ChatGPT should be an automatic expulsion

One sign that ChatGPT is making its users dumber is that cheaters used to know not to document their cheating.

TC, why are you openly admitting to cheating your way through higher education?

It's on the level of taking written notes of a criminal conspiracy.

Only used for my entire Calculus class. And for the essays in another class. ChatGPT wasnt around my entire college career. There was a cut off where college students existed before ChatGPT and after. Im someone that exists in both worlds started before took a break and when I came back ChatGPT was around.

Like I said in OP students used Chegg and other methods to cheat before ChatGPT. Such as sharing answers on a test. Zoom era classes. You could open a new tab and just google the answers or even have the test be open book. I would say being in both worlds ChatGPT made cheating the easiest.

ChatGPT is worse than that, and we know why. Even in the case of "find a study guide/worksheet online," setting aside one is still cheating, there is still "match the right answer to the question." Chat GPT is plagiarism, one of the cardinal sins in academia.

Only used for my entire Calculus class. And for the essays in another class. ChatGPT wasnt around my entire college career. There was a cut off where college students existed before ChatGPT and after. Im someone that exists in both worlds started before took a break and when I came back ChatGPT was around.

Either youre a really boring troll or a really cooked person.

There is this program called Safe Assign where you submit your essays to that scan for plagarism. I was worried this might be the time I get caught. Submited my ChatGPT essay and it only had a 5% score on SafeAssign. Ended up getting an 85 on that essay. No idea where ChatGPT gets it from but somehow outsmarted SafeAssign when I did my essay.

tbf, isn't calculus difficult for many people?

Yeah a lot of people gave up on certain majors at my school due to not being able to pass calculus. Or not being good at math in general. Im guessing it the righteous crowd popping in to go against the person that said they cheated.

I was in study groups during zoom/covid era classes and saw other cheating in other ways. I imagine this took place at other levels too. I am not the only one. Just the only one in thread who said they did. I think the major breakthrough at my college was they banned professors from having you turn your cameras on. Because they felt many students at my college come from poor families and may not want their homes filmed. Which made the cheating easier.