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El_Dustino 07/27/25 1:51:46 PM #51: |
LightSnake posted...
You sell them a bold and exciting narrative like Obamna 2008 and then paint the right like the weak freaks they are. --- The two most beautiful words in any language: I forgive. AC:NL Dream Address: 5700-3355-4304 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Toonstrack 07/27/25 1:52:02 PM #52: |
The people at the forefront of the left leaning social media presence are mostly untrustworthy, unreliable, and dont actually support dems. They are extremists that breed other extremists and who would sooner see the entire thing collapse than to work within the confines of the electoral system. All the people that have been propped up as dem leaders have since been mostly rejected by them. AOC. Bernie. Schumer. Even Shapiro. The well is poisoned by toxic "virtue" that msoltt aims to draw a wide circle of rejection rather than draw in a community of functional support. --- The succotash is suffering. Comic Artist ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ssb_yunglink2 07/27/25 1:52:54 PM #53: |
Im still not convinced this country is ready to elect a non-dinosaur leftist candidate on the national level who openly states they are a leftist and hold leftist views. Neoliberals and the average swing voter probably think of that person as an actual USSR flavored communist --- Hee Ho ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightSnake 07/27/25 1:53:13 PM #54: |
El_Dustino posted... You sell them a bold and exciting narrative like Obamna 2008 and then paint the right like the weak freaks they are. Obamas don't grow on trees. The man was one of the most singularly gifted campaigners of the century. Also, Obama didn't "paint the right as weak freaks." Literally no successful national Democratic candidate has ever done that. Hillary Clinton literally promised to give Appalachians great new jobs and they seethed and threw fits because no they WANT dangerous, unsustainable coal jobs. --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 07/27/25 1:56:18 PM #55: |
LightSnake posted... A huge issue is voters are actively insane on that and a lot of things get asked in a vacuum. The Affordable Care Act is probably an amazing example of that.Then, imo, it behooves the party not to chase polls, which will tend to show contradictory and unworkable desires from the public. --- Please don't be weird in my topics ... Copied to Clipboard!
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asdf8562 07/27/25 1:57:25 PM #56: |
Not surprising. Democrats are held to a far higher standard than Republicans..... by even Democrats/the Left/Progressives. Yes Democrats should improve in areas, but the massive problem with this conversation is our own allies dont understand the optics of hounding Democrats equally or more than Republicans. The usuals love to put all of the onus on the politicians, but little to no accountability on the voters as well. That includes not only consistently showing up to vote, but the messaging as well from voters. Hence also part of the problem. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Board_hunter567 07/27/25 2:20:41 PM #57: |
Democrat voters being critical of or not supporting the Democrat party are not the problem. Polls show they view the party favorably overall and even though Kamala lost to Trump in many of the key swing states she ultimately got more votes in those states than Biden did in 2020. The problem is that more people are registering and voting as Republican. They're doing it not because of social issues, they're doing it because of economic and immigration policy. They believe that Democrats are bad for the economy and that they let in millions of Mexicans despite reality proving otherwise. The media tells them that because they're owned by corporate entities who much prefer right wing policies overall. --- http://i.imgur.com/szMsu.png Validate your purchases and discredit the purchases of others whenever possible. Numbers objectively define quality and enjoyment. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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meralonne 07/27/25 2:22:46 PM #58: |
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Board_hunter567 07/27/25 2:28:34 PM #59: |
Disapproval of Trumps handling of inflation outweighs approval by 11 points, and yet the GOP is trusted more than Democrats to handle inflation by 10 points. By 17 points, voters disapprove rather than approve of Trumps handling of tariffs, and yet Republicans are trusted more than Democrats on the issue by 7 points. Voters have significant concerns about the centerpiece of Trumps agendahis immigration policiesopposing some of his deportation tactics by double-digit numbers. And yet they trust congressional Republicans more than Democrats on immigration by 17 points and on handling illegal immigration by 24 points. The only issues on which voters prefer congressional Democrats to Republicans, among the 10 tested in the Journal survey, are healthcare and vaccine policy. From the article. Also from the article, another poll that was framed as "Biden old doomerism" https://www.wsj.com/politics/elections/more-americans-identify-as-republican-than-democrat-heres-what-that-means-for-the-election-150e12ae --- http://i.imgur.com/szMsu.png Validate your purchases and discredit the purchases of others whenever possible. Numbers objectively define quality and enjoyment. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightSnake 07/27/25 2:56:53 PM #60: |
Case in point btw: Four Black Democrats in the Senate took a picture together, and the Republican Rapid Response Team has been activated https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/78742154.jpg --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Unknown5uspect 07/27/25 3:25:25 PM #61: |
Dio posted... tl;;dr any criticism against Democrats means you support Trump. lmao. The Dems have to be criticized or we won't ever win. It's always the same goal posts "Wait till primary! Wait till elections! wait till second term!". Ive always voted blue and will still do so but, the Dem's need to change and fast or we'll be relics.That was not what was said or implied, but it was a response to me specifically saying that we need to point out and look to primary specific problem Dems. Shitting on the party as a whole just plays into Republicans hands and if you can't see that then Idfk what to tell you. --- How can the moon landing be real if the moon isn't real? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Strider102 07/27/25 3:29:40 PM #62: |
As this topic demonstrates, we see that most will not hold Republicans accountable for the things they do, and instead will be idiots and deflect blame. --- "I dreamt I was a moron." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mybbqrules 07/27/25 3:37:43 PM #63: |
Two chuds, a CoG, and a troll. Yeah, this topic was made in good faith. --- Trump said he would let Israel finish the job. If that didn't put the 2024 election choice into crystal clarity for someone, I don't know what to tell them. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Strand 07/27/25 4:07:53 PM #64: |
LightSnake posted... Also, Obama didn't "paint the right as weak freaks." Literally no successful national Democratic candidate has ever done that.Obama absolutely did, as part of his message of change. He frequently criticized their failed policies, called them out-of-touch, and questioned their competence without necessarily attacking their values. Drawing that contrast helped him campaign so effectively on Democrats being the party of change that would unite Americans and uplift them. https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna26436143 Senator McCain likes to talk about judgment, but really, what does it say about your judgment when you think George Bush was right more than 90 percent of the time? I dont know about you, but Im not ready to take a 10 percent chance on change. https://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/05/us/politics/05text-obama.html The Republicans running for president have already tied themselves to the past. They speak of a 100-year war in Iraq. They talk about billions more in tax breaks for the wealthiest few, who don't need them and didn't even ask for them, tax breaks that mortgage our children's future on a mountain of debt at a time when there are families who can't pay their medical bills and students who can't pay their tuition. (Cheers, applause.) --- "I am a man of somewhat retiring, and I might even say refined, tastes, and there is nothing more unaesthetic than a policeman." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightSnake 07/27/25 4:14:31 PM #65: |
Literally none of that is "painting them as weak freaks," unless you think any criticism of the party in power and your opponent is "calling them weak freaks." He also promoted his record of cooperation and promised an era of bipartisanship. A huge part of this campaign was "I will reach across the aisle." Note these articles: https://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/24/world/americas/24iht-obama.4.18116853.html https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=6136995&page=1 Pleaase note from a section you yourself posted: I'll be the president who finally brings Democrats and Republicans together to make health care affordable and available for every single American. (Cheers, applause.) His election night speech included calls on Republicans and Democrats to resist the temptation to fall back on the same partisanship and pettiness and immaturity that has poisoned our politics for so long. He promised on the trail to invite lawmakers for weekly cocktails at the WH. Did Obama attack Republicans? Yeah. But that wasn't the assertion --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RndmNmber1 07/27/25 4:32:19 PM #66: |
asdf8562 posted... Democrats are held to a far higher standard than Republicans..... by even Democrats/the Left/Progressives. Because people has/had hope on them. Do we not put higher standard on heroes than the villains? --- Why would you stay in a gaming message board when you stopped gaming? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Toonstrack 07/27/25 4:34:39 PM #67: |
RndmNmber1 posted... Because people has/had hope on them. Yea this is it. With democrats i feel like many are disappointed in a different way than with Republicans. They feel the dems have abandoned their prior base and moved leftward, past them, and the right has bolstered that narrative. --- The succotash is suffering. Comic Artist ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 07/27/25 4:37:51 PM #68: |
RndmNmber1 posted... Because people has/had hope on them. The problem is this is always noise that drowns out what the republicans are doing and results in them getting power they shouldn't have in the first place. On top of that the group of "democrats are also bad" never have any solutions towards improving the party. It's always just "democrats need to do better". --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RndmNmber1 07/27/25 4:39:32 PM #69: |
Tmaster148 posted... On top of that the group of "democrats are also bad" never have any solutions towards improving the party. It's always just "democrats need to do better". We do said things like "do not vote bad politicians", and yet you say it wasn't a solution while it's actually 100% is. --- Why would you stay in a gaming message board when you stopped gaming? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 07/27/25 4:41:35 PM #70: |
RndmNmber1 posted... We do said things like "do not vote bad politicians", and yet you say it wasn't a solution while it's actually 100% is.That is a platitude and not a solution. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RndmNmber1 07/27/25 4:42:11 PM #71: |
DrizztLink posted... That is a platitude and not a solution. Exhibit #1 --- Why would you stay in a gaming message board when you stopped gaming? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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012yArthur0 07/27/25 4:43:35 PM #72: |
ssb_yunglink2 posted... I mean genuinely what do people want from the dems at this point. They have a lot of things they need to do better on, but when something actually changes they get booed anyway.That is the problem of having such a wide net. Sooner or later DNC will have to accept that they will have to step on some group toes since they are trying to please everybody and and pleasing nobody. Either cater to moderates or the extreme left, but they will have to pick a group. The idea that "everybody will hold hands in unison to defeat bad orange man" failed twice already. Pick a group and stick with it, build and they will follow. --- Some things are beautiful because they cannot be obtained. ~~ Gilgamesh ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 07/27/25 4:44:16 PM #73: |
RndmNmber1 posted... We do said things like "do not vote bad politicians", and yet you say it wasn't a solution while it's actually 100% is. Yet Trump got elected and Republicans got put into power and now we're dealing with a fascist take over. Really good "solution" there. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lord_of_BeefDip 07/27/25 4:44:43 PM #74: |
LightSnake posted... Yes, but the question is why is the approval rating so low? One of the most common complaints in polls is "Dems are too far left!" and swing voters think the entire party wants open borders and to abolish the cops. There are definitely some swing voters that think that, and that's an issue that needs to be tackled strongly. But a lot of the disapproval is coming from dissatisfied Dem voters who want their party to be better. Combine that with the right who hate them no matter what and it's not a surprise favorables are in the toilet. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 07/27/25 4:45:24 PM #75: |
RndmNmber1 posted... Exhibit #1Please, tell me more of your exhaustively researched and intricate strategy. "Do good things instead of bad things?" --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RndmNmber1 07/27/25 4:46:38 PM #76: |
DrizztLink posted... Please, tell me more of your exhaustively researched and intricate strategy. If you can't do simple task like "do good things instead of bad things", maybe it's not your place to tell people on what to do. --- Why would you stay in a gaming message board when you stopped gaming? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 07/27/25 4:48:16 PM #77: |
RndmNmber1 posted... If you can't do simple task like "do good things instead of bad things", maybe it's not your place to tell people on what to do.When it's a strategy, you absolutely do need more detail. Otherwise you get lackwit dipshits fucking it up for everyone, like what happened last year. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Strand 07/27/25 4:50:06 PM #78: |
LightSnake posted... Literally none of that is "painting them as weak freaks," unless you think any criticism of the party in power and your opponent is "calling them weak freaks." He also promoted his record of cooperation and promised an era of bipartisanship. A huge part of this campaign was "I will reach across the aisle."That's the point. It was part of a two-pronged strategy, which is what El_Dustino suggested to appeal to the voters you asked about. Obama already succeeded with this strategy. El_Dustino posted... You sell them a bold and exciting narrative like Obamna 2008 and then paint the right like the weak freaks they are. LightSnake posted... American swing voters are, frankly, insane. They have bizarre priorities, don't pay attention, believe total falsehoods, etc. --- "I am a man of somewhat retiring, and I might even say refined, tastes, and there is nothing more unaesthetic than a policeman." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RndmNmber1 07/27/25 4:50:48 PM #79: |
DrizztLink posted... When it's a strategy, you absolutely do need more detail. The "lackwit dip shits" are those who still insist on a candidate that's definitely losing popularity and doing nothing to fix it. Doubling down on what makes them losing popularity, even. --- Why would you stay in a gaming message board when you stopped gaming? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 07/27/25 4:52:54 PM #80: |
RndmNmber1 posted... The "lackwit dip shits" are those who still insist on a candidate that's definitely losing popularity and doing nothing to fix it. Doubling down on what makes them losing popularity, even.Sure. They're also the idiots who wanted to play silly buggers with genocide because they're oh so supportive and they knew better for Palestine than the openly stated wishes of Palestinians. Culpability is not a zero sum game. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lumilau 07/27/25 4:53:28 PM #81: |
asdf8562 posted... Democrats are held to a far higher standard than RepublicansOne side has taken to violently shitting all over the community cafeteria and their base tends to fall in line and loyally follow the trail of diarrhea with their empty bowls. The other side tends to actually look at the menu and behave more conscientiously about what they're actually eat and often want to engage with the kitchen staff and process, though they are sometimes blamed as picky eaters in comparison to their coprophagous counterparts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RndmNmber1 07/27/25 4:54:48 PM #82: |
DrizztLink posted... Sure. Was talking about how Democrats are reaching to the right instead opposing them, like it was discussed in this very topic, but hey at least you thrown away your mask and showed us your disdain on Palestine so fast. --- Why would you stay in a gaming message board when you stopped gaming? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raiden2909 07/27/25 4:57:05 PM #83: |
Oh look, As the Democrats move Further to the left to appease their donors and try to court right wing voters the less popular they become ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hayame_Zero 07/27/25 4:57:30 PM #84: |
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/e735df92.jpg We are so fucking back --- ...I think I'm done here... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 07/27/25 5:00:01 PM #85: |
RndmNmber1 posted... Was talking about how Democrats are reaching to the right instead opposing them, like it was discussed in this very topic, but hey at least you thrown away your mask and showed us your disdain on Palestine so fast.I listened to them. If that's your definition of "disdain" suddenly a lot of things make a lot more sense. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RndmNmber1 07/27/25 5:01:35 PM #86: |
DrizztLink posted... I listened to them. It made a lot of sense too why you denied to be called that. Same old same old. --- Why would you stay in a gaming message board when you stopped gaming? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightSnake 07/27/25 5:14:37 PM #87: |
Strand posted... That's the point. It was part of a two-pronged strategy, which is what El_Dustino suggested to appeal to the voters you asked about. Obama already succeeded with this strategy. You claimed "he called them weak freaks." He did not, in fact, do anything close to the sort. He attacked the Bush administration and McCain. He talked about bipartisanship, working across the aisle and bringing everyone together. We don't need to guess how people here react to politcians talking like Obama. We see it in practice very often. You cannot extrapolate any criticism of one's opponent as something as extreme Dustino was suggesting. --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Thanatos_the_Great 07/27/25 5:15:02 PM #88: |
Tmaster148 posted... On top of that the group of "democrats are also bad" never have any solutions towards improving the party. Yes they do, the Sensible Moderates just refuse to listen. Tmaster148 posted... Yet Trump got elected and Republicans got put into power and now we're dealing with a fascist take over. Yes, because the Democrat leaders didn't listen to the people telling them how to improve. --- Re-open board 261. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ItsNotA2Mer 07/27/25 5:15:13 PM #89: |
RndmNmber1 posted... It made a lot of sense too why you denied to be called that. Same old same old. I won't presume to speak for Drizzt, but your ridiculous post didn't deserve a response. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/29988202.jpg --- It's not the cough that carries you off, it's the coffin they carry you off in. (He/Him). ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lilORANG 07/27/25 5:15:44 PM #90: |
Dems suck. Hope this shows them the light but I'm not optimistic --- Science and Algorithms ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightSnake 07/27/25 5:17:34 PM #91: |
Thanatos_the_Great posted... Yes they do, the Sensible Moderates just refuse to listen. And those ways, according to you? --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RndmNmber1 07/27/25 5:22:46 PM #92: |
ItsNotA2Mer posted... I won't presume to speak for Drizzt, but your ridiculous post didn't deserve a response. >Didn't speak for Drizzt Did it anyway >Didn't deserve a response Also did it anyway --- Why would you stay in a gaming message board when you stopped gaming? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sayoria 07/27/25 5:24:51 PM #93: |
Because Democrats literally agree with MANY things Republicans say. Republicans: "BORDER CRISIS!" Democrats: "Yeah I guess there is one...." Republicans: "TRANS PEOPLE ARE BAD!" Democrats: "Yeah I kinda wish we'd stop with the trans stuff" Republicans: "ISRAEL DID NOTHING WRONG" Democrats: *Is silent on the issue or takes AIPAC money* The democrats are pussies. Absolute fucking cowards. They don't argue anything. They just let their tails swing between their legs and pat their gonads on the swing by. That's it. If the Democrats refuse to debunk these claims and issues being raised in farse by Republicans, then people see Democrats as weak, and that Republican lies MUST be real and if Democrats are too weak, then MAYBE we gotta vote for the 'iron-fist Republicans'. There's a reason I am not a registered democrat. Because I am a vertebrate and only invertebrates are allowed in that party. --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr ... Copied to Clipboard!
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asdf8562 07/27/25 5:27:44 PM #94: |
RndmNmber1 posted... Because people has/had hope on them.We? No. The same usuals who find excuses to criticize Republicans less? No doubt. I hold them to an equal standard. Given Republicans are far worse, most of the criticism Id argue should be directed at Republicans. I wouldnt rush to the defense of the villain Republicans) to bash the hero more than the villain. All on some weak endeavor of an excuse of, "wE kNoW tHe ViLlIaN iS bAd." It has been illustrated at nauseum now that a great portion is actually not aware just how bad Trump is. Especially when elections are often decided by optics and perception of who cares the most. Our own allies love to find every reason under the sun to criticize Democrats equally if not more than Republicans, which consequently favors Republicans in elections. Too many seem to not understand elections have consequences, and its not just the politicians pumping out bad messaging. Optics matter in a war on misinformation and disinformation. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightSnake 07/27/25 5:29:08 PM #95: |
Sayoria posted... Because Democrats literally agree with MANY things Republicans say. Look, I'm all for criticizing Dems on a number of things, but part of that is a two way street on giving them credit when they do th right thing. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/senate-democrats-block-bill-ban-transgender-athletes-womens-sports-rcna194623 In a party-line vote of 51-45, Democrats filibustered the Protection of Women and Girls in Sports Act, introduced by Sen. Tommy Tuberville, R-Ala. It fell short of the 60 votes needed to advance as Democrats dismissed it as a distraction and a cynical political move. Like if you want them to fight for trans rights (and you should!) then it's important to not just act like they've abandoned the issue when one of the top 2028 hopefuls is speaking at the Human Rights Conference to say "fuck you, GOP, I got trans peoples' backs." --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RndmNmber1 07/27/25 5:29:52 PM #96: |
asdf8562 posted... We? No. I see, you allow your heroes to be as heinous as the villains, and it already shows enough about you. Huh, maybe this is why there's lots of kids that will defend Snyder's Superman to death. --- Why would you stay in a gaming message board when you stopped gaming? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 07/27/25 5:31:32 PM #97: |
RndmNmber1 posted... It made a lot of sense too why you denied to be called that.Correct. Because I listened to them and did what they asked. Did you? --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 07/27/25 5:31:43 PM #98: |
RndmNmber1 posted... I see, you allow your heroes to be as heinous as the villains, and it already shows enough about you. When the party currently in power is the one building concentration camps and abducting US citizens off the street and the only thing you can say on the matter is "here's how democrats are bad" then you're not serious in your claims of wanting to improve the party. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightHawKnight 07/27/25 5:32:51 PM #99: |
So republicans are going to win again even if they dont rig the shit out of it arent they? --- The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. "You know how confusing the whole good-evil concept is for me." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightSnake 07/27/25 5:33:41 PM #100: |
LightHawKnight posted... So republicans are going to win again even if they dont rig the shit out of it arent they? My friend, it's 2025. We'v got three years before we even know who the nominee will be --- Ring the bells that still can ring/Forget your perfect offering/There is a crack in everything/That's how the light gets in."- RIP, Leonard Cohen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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