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McmadnessV3 08/06/25 4:38:52 PM #1: |
Having now actually read the novels proper the movies feel like fanfiction. Well made, acted, directed and produced fanfiction but still fanfiction. --- Thank you for taking the time to read this sig. This sig loves you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hayame_Zero 08/06/25 4:41:34 PM #2: |
An excuse to pull out this classic: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/2b3005a8.jpg --- ...I think I'm done here... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ReturnOfDevsman 08/06/25 4:43:37 PM #3: |
Why didn't Don Henley and his friends fly the ring to Mt. Doom? --- Arguing on CE be all like: https://youtu.be/JpRKrs67lOs?si=kPGA2RCKVHTdbVrJ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EPR-radar 08/06/25 4:44:51 PM #4: |
Yeah, there's that. But in defense of the movies, following the books closely wouldn't work in a movie. E.g., people would get bored and leave the theaters before Frodo et al. even get out of the Shire. So some liberties had to be taken. Others were much more optional (and annoying). --- "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HudGard 08/06/25 4:45:06 PM #5: |
Well yeah, the movie is not 3 hours of establishing shots and landscape. --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EpicMickeyDrew 08/06/25 4:49:38 PM #7: |
Care to explain further ? --- https://psnprofiles.com/Shuffle666 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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masterpug53 08/06/25 4:51:19 PM #8: |
Why didn't the eagles just fuck off entirely and leave Nobody ever considers that side of the question for some reason. --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 08/06/25 4:53:21 PM #9: |
Why didn't the eagles have a cave troll? --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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evilpresident 08/06/25 4:55:08 PM #10: |
DrizztLink posted... Why didn't the eagles have a cave troll?Cause Jerry left it out in the sun again. --- Corruption that you can believe in. (She/her) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ReturnOfDevsman 08/06/25 5:03:57 PM #12: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Some place with more doors. I can't remember the name of it. --- Arguing on CE be all like: https://youtu.be/JpRKrs67lOs?si=kPGA2RCKVHTdbVrJ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Powdered_Toast 08/06/25 5:04:19 PM #13: |
I reread the books recently. The movies really beefed some parts, but at the same time they're probably the best we ever could have gotten from big budget Hollywood adaptations. --- Want some rye? 'Course ya do! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Spurner 08/06/25 5:05:28 PM #14: |
Ol Tom Bombadil got done dirty. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Pikachuchupika 08/06/25 5:07:27 PM #15: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Morder ... Copied to Clipboard!
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fan357 08/06/25 5:07:45 PM #16: |
The books are boring so --- Never forget where you came from. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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refmon 08/06/25 5:12:01 PM #17: |
I literally cannot believe the movies cut out Frodo returning to a destroyed Shire --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Evolician 08/06/25 5:17:58 PM #18: |
Why didnt the eagles just kill Sauron --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Lavidon/ https://www.twitch.tv/Lavidon ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Southernfatman 08/06/25 5:21:46 PM #19: |
Some changes I can accept because they're movies, but some decisions they made bother me mostly character based ones. I'm torn on the scouring not being in the movies. It's a significant part of the books and the hobbits returning home like nothing happened is pretty different, but then the movie would be like 5 hours long. --- Fix your hearts or die. When I sin I sin real good. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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McmadnessV3 08/06/25 5:40:16 PM #20: |
EPR-radar posted... Yeah, there's that.I guess I should add that I am mostly referring to the unnecesarry changes that have nothing to do with how long the films are. --- Thank you for taking the time to read this sig. This sig loves you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PraetorXyn 08/06/25 5:54:03 PM #21: |
The Scouring of the Shire was a major loss, but overall the books are very boring in comparison. --- https://store.steampowered.com/wishlist/profiles/76561198052113750 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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suchiuomizu 08/06/25 6:07:58 PM #22: |
PraetorXyn posted... The Scouring of the Shire was a major loss, but overall the books are very boring in comparison. One of Christopher Tolkiens big complaints about the movies, that the story was reduced to an action movie, missing much of what his father put into it. --- WTF DUH I DUH ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Robot2600 08/06/25 6:15:09 PM #23: |
books coulda used a little more action if ya know what im sayin --- April 15, 2024: The Day the Internet Died ... Copied to Clipboard!
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vycebrand2 08/06/25 6:30:21 PM #24: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Isengard. They taking the hobbits to Isengard --- All the iron turn to rust. All the proud men turn to dust. All things time will mend ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 08/06/25 6:32:39 PM #25: |
vycebrand2 posted... Isengard. They taking the hobbits to IsengardThe hobbits the hobbits ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mercurydude 08/06/25 6:33:00 PM #26: |
They left out Gandalf being a brute If you dont let me in, Frodo, I shall blow your door right down your hole and out through the hill, he said. and Frodo causing a controversy: Just why Mr. Frodo was selling his beautiful hole was even more debatable than the price. --- God forbid you ever had to walk a mile in her shoes, 'cause then you really might know what it's like to have to choose. - Everlast ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Thanatos_the_Great 08/06/25 6:33:20 PM #27: |
Southernfatman posted... I'm torn on the scouring not being in the movies. It's a significant part of the books and the hobbits returning home like nothing happened is pretty different, but then the movie would be like 5 hours long. Leaving out the Scouring actually makes that problem worse. If RotK feels too long it's because it has a very, very long ending after the quest succeeds, with no drama to break it up. Including the Scouring could have fixed that despite actually making the film longer. --- Re-open board 261. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 08/06/25 6:36:35 PM #28: |
They could have just divided Lord of the Rings into 9 movies and then each movie wouldn't have to be super long, but they would also get to include everything 3 movies per book ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thronedfire2 08/06/25 6:37:57 PM #29: |
Just why Mr. Frodo was selling his beautiful hole was even more debatable than the price. to be fair, if they had included this line it just would have been memed forever --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Charged151 08/06/25 6:38:15 PM #30: |
Thanatos_the_Great posted... Leaving out the Scouring actually makes that problem worse. If RotK feels too long it's because it has a very, very long ending after the quest succeeds, with no drama to break it up. Including the Scouring could have fixed that despite actually making the film longer.The theatrical version of the film couldn't even include a few minutes to give Saruman a proper ending (which Christopher Lee was livid about for years). No way was the Scouring getting included. --- I'm...the...master...of...ellipses... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DarkAssassin89 08/06/25 6:38:30 PM #31: |
Spurner posted... Ol Tom Bombadil got done dirty. No he didnt. His are the worst chapters in the books and he wouldnt fit into the movies even if this wasnt the case. Terrible stuff. I have to skip his chapters every time I read the books. --- Dark89 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BucketCat 08/06/25 6:39:26 PM #32: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] to the brick and mortar store cus amazon doesn't deliver to the shire :( --- ? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Thanatos_the_Great 08/06/25 6:40:12 PM #33: |
DarkAssassin89 posted... His are the worst chapters in the books and he wouldnt fit into the movies even if this wasnt the case. Terrible stuff. The nicest thing I can say about this is that everyone is entitled to their opinion. DarkAssassin89 posted... I have to skip his chapters every time I read the books. You don't actually have to, you know. --- Re-open board 261. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 08/06/25 6:41:13 PM #34: |
thronedfire2 posted... to be fair, if they had included this line it just would have been memed forever Not a nasty, dirty, wet hole, filled with the ends of worms and an oozy smell, nor yet a dry, bare, sandy hole with nothing in it to sit down on or to eat: it was a hobbit-hole, and that means comfort. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thronedfire2 08/06/25 6:41:23 PM #35: |
Tom got done dirty in the movies because having a god around and not helping with the whole Sauron thing would have just been silly to everyone watching it --- I could see you, but I couldn't hear you You were holding your hat in the breeze Turning away from me In this moment you were stolen... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Charged151 08/06/25 6:55:57 PM #36: |
thronedfire2 posted... Tom got done dirty in the movies because having a god around and not helping with the whole Sauron thing would have just been silly to everyone watching itThe books established Tom is only godlike in his own domain. Outside of it, he is significantly less powerful. Granted, trying to explain this in the movies may have not been as effective, so no wonder he got mostly cut. --- I'm...the...master...of...ellipses... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Awakened_Link 08/06/25 7:03:00 PM #37: |
I'm a huge Tolkien fan, but admittedly, I saw the movies before reading the books and supplemental material as well. But the appendices in the extended edition DVDs really provide a lot of insight into the decisions that Jackson and the producers made. And they make sense, tbh. For example, Tom Bombadil and the Scouring of the Shire just don't work from a cinematic perspective. It was definitely the right call to omit those scenes; it would've been a huge pacing issue. However, there are definitely some things I disagree with, like the changes to Faramir's character. --- Add me on Switch! FC: SW-3465-2506-6411 Formerly known as Coleby ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Charged151 08/06/25 7:05:45 PM #39: |
Awakened_Link posted... However, there are definitely some things I disagree with, like the changes to Faramir's character.Yeah...having him violently arrest and torture Gollum over entering a forbidden pond wasn't a good choice. Plus the fact it undid all the growth Gollum had made. --- I'm...the...master...of...ellipses... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 08/06/25 7:05:58 PM #40: |
Awakened_Link posted... like the changes to Faramir's character.his faracter --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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boomgetchopped3 08/06/25 7:09:22 PM #41: |
Hayame_Zero posted... An excuse to pull out this classic: Even if he never sled down the stairs in the books I still imagined Legolas to be that nimble when reading. He can walk on top of fresh snow and gets crazy head counts during battles. --- Wink wink oh oh wink wink ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Evolician 08/06/25 7:09:54 PM #42: |
Whats taters, precious? --- http://steamcommunity.com/id/Lavidon/ https://www.twitch.tv/Lavidon ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkknight109 08/06/25 7:15:54 PM #43: |
Southernfatman posted... Some changes I can accept because they're movies, but some decisions they made bother me mostly character based ones.I honestly didn't like the Scouring. It felt so weird with Frodo and the Fellowship having just completed this epic quest, killed the dark lord, vanquished evil... oh, but now they have to go put down a wizard-led coup in their farm village. I actually think the way the movies handled it was *more* poignant. The hobbits coming back home as war veterans to a town that is unchanged and largely oblivious to the horrors they went through is a powerful story moment that fits in perfectly with the ending. There's one particularly masterful scene in that sequence that I absolutely love, which is when they all gather at the pub, share a silent toast, and quietly drink. It's a moment where none of them are talking, and all of them know why no one is talking. It's a moment of shared understanding - that they get each other, and they know that they're the *only ones* who get each other. It's an acknowledgement that they're home, back where they started, but everything's different now - not because home changed, but because they did, and now it doesn't quite feel the same anymore and it never will. It's a bit of nice foreshadowing for Frodo's ultimate fate, while also showing that none of the hobbits were truly "unscarred" by their experiences. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Murphiroth 08/06/25 7:17:58 PM #44: |
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Metal_Gear_Raxis 08/06/25 7:20:04 PM #45: |
EPR-radar posted... Yeah, there's that.Eh, even granting this, a lot of the changes were just stupid and baffling. Like man, what did Denethor and Isildur do to Peter Jackson? --- Time is a funny thing, you know? I guess in the big picture of my life, you were only a blip. But oftentimes, those "blips" make the biggest impacts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WrestlinFan 08/06/25 7:24:16 PM #46: |
You should check out that anime movie that came out last year, that shit was a fanfiction fever dream, very high entertainment factor. --- Trying to burn the bridges to a culture that taught us to hate and fear and live like cogs in a machine and not like lovers, friends, and kin. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mercurydude 08/06/25 7:24:17 PM #47: |
More shocking behavior that was left out: vandalism committed by Gandalf and Bilbo If there are any to see, then I at least am revealed to them, he said. I have written Gandalf is here in signs that all can read from Rivendell to the mouths of Anduin. He took from the box a small sword in an old shabby leathern scabbard. Then he drew it, and its polished and well-tended blade glittered suddenly, cold and bright. This is Sting, he said, and thrust it with little effort deep into a wooden beam. Take it, if you like. I shant want it again, I expect. Elrond was letting Bilbo stay there free of charge, too, and that's the thanks he gets for it. >:( --- God forbid you ever had to walk a mile in her shoes, 'cause then you really might know what it's like to have to choose. - Everlast ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 08/06/25 7:37:28 PM #48: |
mercurydude posted... Elrond was letting Bilbo stay there free of charge, too, and that's the thanks he gets for it. >:(The whole-ass trilogy started because Bilbo pulled a Sackville-Baggins and helped himself to someone's valuables after busting into their home. Guy's a fucking terrible houseguest. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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McmadnessV3 08/06/25 8:05:13 PM #49: |
Metal_Gear_Raxis posted... Eh, even granting this, a lot of the changes were just stupid and baffling. Like man, what did Denethor and Isildur do to Peter Jackson?Not be elves. Which he buttered up with constant absurd feets. --- Thank you for taking the time to read this sig. This sig loves you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EPR-radar 08/06/25 8:08:40 PM #50: |
Metal_Gear_Raxis posted... Eh, even granting this, a lot of the changes were just stupid and baffling. Like man, what did Denethor and Isildur do to Peter Jackson?Denethor and Isildur were both massive fuckups in the books. Especially Isildur -- he's the idiot that took the Ring for his own. --- "The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." -- 1984 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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