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we_dey 09/01/25 6:48:20 PM #1: |
I know a lot of sociologists say my generation is 1981-1996ish but I feel like people born in the early 80s would disagree. What would you call someone born between like, 1979 and 1983? --- There is water at the bottom of the ocean ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cruddy_horse 09/01/25 6:59:29 PM #2: |
I feel like this Generation war nonsense needs to end and people shouldn't give a shit, no offense. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EclairReturns 09/01/25 7:31:26 PM #3: |
Cruddy_horse posted... Generation war You mean because no one can ever agree upon how to unambiguously demarcate one generation from the next, or because it's a meaningless argument that seems to only to pit people of different ages against each other for no other reason than those very virtual boundaries? --- Number VI: Larxene. The Organization's Not-That-Geezer's-Heart-Tank. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cruddy_horse 09/01/25 7:38:40 PM #4: |
EclairReturns posted... You mean because no one can ever agree upon how to unambiguously demarcate one generation from the next, or because it's a meaningless argument that seems to only to pit people of different ages against each other for no other reason than those very virtual boundaries? The latter ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ParanoidObsessive 09/01/25 8:26:55 PM #5: |
Technically, yes. Some people like the idea of "cusp" generations that basically straddle between two generations, sharing some traits from one and some traits from the other. The Gen X/Millennial cusp is sometimes referred to as "Xennials" or "Xillennial". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xennials Cruddy_horse posted... I feel like this Generation war nonsense needs to end and people shouldn't give a shit, no offense. Ehh, it's been a thing for thousands of years, it's not going to stop any time soon. The young always resent the old, and the old always look down on the young. And the best part is, both sides are usually right. The main difference now is that we've come up with names for different age cohorts, rather than just having rougher groups based solely on age. Which kind of makes sense, because modern generations are far more influenced by shared media and overarching experiences than any previous generations, by virtue of things like radio/TV/film/Internet generalizing experiences. 3000 years ago you might be more inclined to write off differences in worldview based on what region someone was from, but now it's easier to assume that kids from NYC and kids in LA are having roughly the same childhoods and are being shaped by the same historical events and pop culture. But there've always been exceptions to any category - and it doesn't help that most generational cohorts aren't really defined in any official way anyway. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nade_Duck 09/01/25 9:11:51 PM #6: |
Cruddy_horse posted... I feel like this Generation war nonsense needs to end and people shouldn't give a shit, no offense.it's yet another way to deflect accountability and label someone as an "other" so that we as a society can avoid responsibility and effort, same as race and gender. more nitpicky nonsense that absolutely should not matter in a logical world that actually wants to succeed, but does and will continue to because the worst kind of people stand to benefit from all the social division. --- http://i.imgur.com/ElACjJD.gifv "Most of the time, I have a whole lot more sperm inside me than most women do." - adjl ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OhhhJa 09/01/25 9:56:03 PM #7: |
ParanoidObsessive posted... Ehh, it's been a thing for thousands of years, it's not going to stop any time soon. The young always resent the old, and the old always look down on the young.Sure but there are much more noticeable differences between generations now because of the rate of technological advances. Thousands of years ago someone wasn't really generally living a much different live from their grandparents ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ParanoidObsessive 09/01/25 11:09:37 PM #8: |
OhhhJa posted... Sure but there are much more noticeable differences between generations now because of the rate of technological advances. Thousands of years ago someone wasn't really generally living a much different live from their grandparents Yeah, but that makes it worse, not better. If a farmer in ancient Syracuse thought his grandson was a dumbass in spite of them more or less having incredibly similar life experiences, how much worse is it when one generation grows up almost living in an entirely different world from each other? I always used to point out that my great-grandmother was basically born into a world where the only methods of travel were either horses (or horse adjacent) or steam-powered ships or trains (which still weren't fully integrated into society), whereas when my mother was 21 humans landed on the fucking moon. It's hard to mentally process just how much changed in the span of the last 200 years or so (and how much of an impact that it had on culture and society). Even now it's hard to get anyone under the age of 20 to mentally process the idea that there was once a time when cell phones didn't exist and everyone wasn't more or less living their entire lives online, and it wasn't that long ago. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingInBlack 09/02/25 2:06:49 AM #9: |
we_dey posted... 1979 and 1983 1979 is Generation X. There's no maybe, it's Gen X. The "maybe" is when Millennials start. Some say 1980, others say 1981. The only "in-between" is Elder Millennial, which is someone from 1980/81-85. --- Your loyalty lies on the wrong side of the future ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ParanoidObsessive 09/02/25 3:05:08 AM #10: |
KingInBlack posted... 1979 is Generation X. There's no maybe, it's Gen X. The "maybe" is when Millennials start. Some say 1980, others say 1981. The only "in-between" is Elder Millennial, which is someone from 1980/81-85. There are no official years or dates for when any given generation starts or ends. Because there's no official organization or group that gets to decide what years count for what. Or some kind of formula that allows you to calculate an objectively correct answer. Generally a lot of different people come up with a lot of different answers early on, and most people eventually gravitate to one option, but it's never really universal. 1980 is usually the most common answer for when Gen X "ends" (but even then, there's very much a blurred line if that means that someone born in 1980 is still Gen X or if they're a Millennial), but there have also been people who count Gen X as ending in 1979, and some who go as early as 1976 or 1977. And some people will go as late as 1985. Personally, I accept any definition that keeps me part of Gen X, because I refuse to be a Millennial. Ick! --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SunWuKung420 09/02/25 6:00:30 AM #11: |
KingInBlack posted... 1979 is Generation X. There's no maybe, it's Gen X. The "maybe" is when Millennials start. Some say 1980, others say 1981. The only "in-between" is Elder Millennial, which is someone from 1980/81-85.People born in 79, 80, 81 are the same generation. WTF --- "I don't question our existence, I just question our modern needs" Pearl Jam - Garden My theme song - https://youtu.be/-PXIbVNfj3s ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lokarin 09/02/25 6:09:19 AM #12: |
I'm from 83 and I definitely identify with Gen X --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Falgos 09/02/25 7:13:31 AM #13: |
Cruddy_horse posted... I feel like this Generation war nonsense needs to end and people shouldn't give a shit, no offense. --- Non Binary and Ace Bird Thing. I go "Awwk awwk!" Jovial Australia and a bit wacky. Mega Man 2 Blows Ass, Awwwk ... Copied to Clipboard!
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captpackrat 09/02/25 11:54:05 AM #14: |
Gen X is generally defined as 1965 to 1980, Gen Y (or Millennials) are from 1981 to 1996, Gen Z is 1997 to 2012, and Gen Alpha is 2013-present. Gen Beta is the proposed name for the next generational cohort, which some have suggested will be 2025-2039 --- Minutus cantorum, minutus balorum, Minutus carborata descendum pantorum. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Muscles 09/02/25 2:02:40 PM #15: |
This whole generation battle really started with the boomers so we gotta start there and work our way forward, and boomers are generally considered to be born between 46-64. So let's assume most generations are 18 years, which makes sense. Boomers: 46-64 Gen X: 65-81 (idk most sources I've seen generally have a shorter period for Gen X vs Boomers and millenials) Millennials: 82-00 Gen Z: 01-19 Gen Alpha: 20-38 --- Muscles Chicago Bears | Chicago Blackhawks | Chicago Bulls | Chicago Cubs | NIU Huskies ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nichtcrawler-X 09/02/25 4:13:41 PM #16: |
I always define my generation/growing up as between the fall of the wall and the towers. Also, Gen Y I can live with. Millennial will always be an insult to me and no, it has not been reclaimed as anything else. --- Official Teetotaller of PotD Dovie'andi se tovya sagain! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pedro45 09/02/25 5:04:23 PM #17: |
Cruddy_horse posted... I feel like this Generation war nonsense needs to end and people shouldn't give a shit It's basically comes down to age groups when people are complaining. "This generation doesn't wanna work" being a famous one. No one has ever wanted to work...ever. when you're young, you wanna have no responsibilities. "The older generation doesn't know technology" is often funny, too. That one seemed true, until everyone seemed to figure out how to get onto Facebook. Then it was obvious it was motivation. We should all reflect upon ourselves and actions more, working on self improving little things over time, rather than care when someone was born. Everyone is different. --- Warning: Sometimes biased http://i.imgur.com/V0x5fw8.jpg http://i.imgur.com/IOovUge.gif http://i.imgur.com/zw7bqPH.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Realthuddydrumz 09/02/25 6:09:31 PM #18: |
pedro45 posted... It's basically comes down to age groups when people are complaining. Gonna be interesting times with younger generations becoming demonstrably worse with technology and testing way lower on average every year. For the first time in a long long time (maybe ever) we can actually mark an exact year range where the average IQ and competence peaked. Kids wont be able to say their parents suck with technology at a certain point. We had to learn it when it broke all the fucking time, you got to learn it when everything worked. --- Crazy rat lady https://imgur.com/QaL5W4V.jpeg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ApertureBear 09/02/25 6:46:45 PM #19: |
we_dey posted... I know a lot of sociologists say my generation is 1981-1996ish but I feel like people born in the early 80s would disagree.They call themselves the Oregon Trail generation. It's hilarious to me because there's nothing more millennial than needing your own special little label for your own special little group. I'd know, I'm a millennial. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GameReviews 09/02/25 7:43:30 PM #20: |
It's just sub generations. Like elder millennials, middle millennials (which I am) and young millennial, who are more like proto zoomers. --- Sign here. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ParanoidObsessive 09/02/25 7:48:58 PM #21: |
pedro45 posted... "This generation doesn't wanna work" being a famous one. No one has ever wanted to work...ever. when you're young, you wanna have no responsibilities. Ehh, "Work Ethic" is a thing, and there are definitely some people who have it versus people who don't. It's more questionable whether or not you can extend that to an entire generation, but it's not a ridiculous premise to assume that a generation that had the concept of hard work, self-sufficiency, and "The American Dream" beaten into them as children might have been more inclined to put more effort and care into work versus a generation that was potentially far more spoiled and catered to, but simultaneously growing up incredibly cynical about their future and their potential to succeed. You could kind of view it as a Boomer saying "If a job is worth doing, it's worth doing right - and if I do it well enough, I can climb the ladder and achieve my dreams." While a Millennial/Gen Z viewpoint is closer to "The job isn't worth doing it in the first place, and I'm only doing it because I have to, so I'm giving you the bare minimum amount of effort. And I'm just going to be stuck in dead-end jobs for the rest of my life, with very little job security, and no real expectation of ever being able to own my own home or be financially secure, so why should I ever give you anything more than that?". The "the kids don't want to work" mindset is probably more a case of "the kids are disillusioned and don't see the point in putting in effort". That being said, no generational stereotype or assumption is ever going to be universal anyway. If you look you'll always be able to find lazy unmotivated older people and highly motivated and eager young people. That doesn't make the stereotypes wrong for the majority though. Realthuddydrumz posted... Gonna be interesting times with younger generations becoming demonstrably worse with technology and testing way lower on average every year. For the first time in a long long time (maybe ever) we can actually mark an exact year range where the average IQ and competence peaked. It'll probably be akin to what happened with cars. When car culture was a huge thing in the 50s (give or take), part of that was knowing how to fix your car when it broke down, how to buy cars cheap and rebuild them (because you were a teenager with low income and couldn't afford new cars), and being able to tweak them to get the most out of them (especially if you wanted to race them). Then skip ahead to the 80s or later, and most people couldn't even change their own oil, let alone do anything more complex. The need was no longer there - cars were ubiquitous and cheaper, most cars worked perfectly fine and were reliable enough that they didn't need constant maintenance, and when something did go wrong there were tons of options to get them fixed for relatively cheap. Today nearly everyone in a Western nation drives a car, but most of those people barely understand how they work, and would have absolutely no ability to ever fix or maintain them themselves. With computers, you basically needed to know how to build them and code (to some extent) in the early stages of the tech revolution (especially in the 70s/80s era), but as they became more and more ubiquitous (and were eventually replaced in many cases by smart phones), it became less and less necessary to have any expert knowledge to use one. Unless you're a hardcore PC gamer or a bleeding-edge tech head, the average person just buys a PC/laptop/phone off the shelf and uses it with factory settings and barely has any idea how it works "under the hood" or how to fix it if something goes wrong. The past 30 years or so have been a constant process of consolidation, simplification, and enshittification of the Internet, to the point where almost anyone can use it without any degree of skill or specialist knowledge. Much like with cars, we've simultaneously made the Internet and smart phones an inextricable part of our way of life while also giving up most of our ability to actually maintain or operate those things. We take cars for granted, and are well on our way to taking smart phones and the Internet for granted (which can really annoy those of us old enough to remember when those things didn't exist). --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ApertureBear 09/02/25 8:32:28 PM #22: |
ParanoidObsessive posted... it's not a ridiculous premise to assume that a generation that had the concept of hard work,https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/a/a833ef4b.jpg Which generation, specifically? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeus 09/03/25 4:17:05 AM #23: |
ParanoidObsessive posted... I always used to point out that my great-grandmother was basically born into a world where the only methods of travel were either horses (or horse adjacent) or steam-powered ships or trains (which still weren't fully integrated into society), whereas when my mother was 21 humans landed on the fucking moon. It's hard to mentally process just how much changed in the span of the last 200 years or so (and how much of an impact that it had on culture and society). Considering moon travel still isn't mainstream, that doesn't feel like a relevant example. Particularly because your great-grandmother would've been born in a time when air flight had been available for over a century or two (via hot air balloon). Not to mention there's currently no practical benefit for civilian space travel (and still arguably no practical benefit for space travel in general, considering it's still more research than anything else and tangible benefits still likely wouldn't be around in your hypothetical great-granddaughter's time) whereas humanity already had the means to traverse most of the world. --- (\/)(\/)|-| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Venixon 09/05/25 3:35:16 PM #24: |
Cruddy_horse posted... I feel like this Generation war nonsense needs to end and people shouldn't give a shit, no offense.This. No one cared about it for a long time. I mean sure older and younger people griped about each other, but nowadays it's annoying and dumb. I tend to ignore people who do it. --- I'm just a girl who loves games ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Venixon 09/05/25 3:35:58 PM #25: |
EclairReturns posted... You mean because no one can ever agree upon how to unambiguously demarcate one generation from the next, or because it's a meaningless argument that seems to only to pit people of different ages against each other for no other reason than those very virtual boundaries?A little of both --- I'm just a girl who loves games ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Venixon 09/05/25 3:39:18 PM #26: |
pedro45 posted... It's basically comes down to age groups when people are complaining.There are plenty of people who enjoy working. --- I'm just a girl who loves games ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Entity13 09/06/25 2:04:44 AM #27: |
Generational divides as we know them are a social construct, meant for a lot of us vs them mentality and playing the blame game with one another rather than joining heads and resources to make good things happen. That isn't to say there aren't awful or idiotic people in every age group, but rather we could have had a better sense of understanding one another, our hopes and grievances, if we didn't buy into the divide. I know some technically Millennials whose life experiences and trains of thought align more with Zoomers, some younger Gen X who align with Millennials, and some older Gen X who definitely, without question, align with Baby Boomers to the point of defending them and discounting every valid thing said by anyone younger than them. And, by some grace and patience, I've met some Baby Boomers who escaped the nonsense and treat people as people regardless of when they were born; be more free like them. --- http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb179/EntityXIII/entityfn7.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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myghostisdead 09/06/25 9:50:19 AM #28: |
The generation classifying keeps changing as time goes by. You are told you are part of a generation then 10, 20 years down the road the years are change. You haven't changed but someone decided your experiences are lumped into a different group. I have gotten to the point where I realized none of it matters. It doesn't change you. Now, if you are really worried about cut off dates I never got that either. Just one day could make that much of a difference in to what gen you are? I see it mostly as slowly fading into the next. I just let it go. --- "Mom, was I in a wreck?" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OhhhJa 09/06/25 11:59:05 AM #29: |
Entity13 posted... Generational divides as we know them are a social construct There's really not a specific year you can point to and say "Yeah that's exactly where this or that generation starts" but there are definitely very real divides based on technology that you grew up with. I didnt get a smartphone until I was 19 or 20 and kids born in 2010 were raised on tablets. Definitely going to be very different mentalities ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kallainanna 09/06/25 12:45:38 PM #30: |
Venixon posted... There are plenty of people who enjoy working.I would argue that we, as a species, are born to *do* things. Very few of us are ever content to sit around and do nothing (at least, not for long)- the thing is we're also intelligent enough that we want the things we *do* to feel meaningful and necessary. What feels meaningful varies from person to person. The *problem* is that this desire to do something meaningful often comes into conflict with society and specifically the need to work to earn a living. A lot of work in our society is very lacking in meaning and/or designed to be demeaning, which leads to discontentment and slacking off. If you completely excise meaning from yourself, you become the type of person who thoughtlessly pursues material gain no matter the price paid by others. --- "I used to hate myself, but now I think I'm alright I don't know quite who I am, oh, but man, I am trying." - Courtney Barnett, Small Poppies ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ApertureBear 09/06/25 8:16:09 PM #31: |
Kallainanna posted... I would argue that we, as a species, are born to *do* things. Very few of us are ever content to sit around and do nothing (at least, not for long)- the thing is we're also intelligent enough that we want the things we *do* to feel meaningful and necessary. What feels meaningful varies from person to person.This is massively incorrect. Mammals are born to eat, procreate, and rest. Huge emphasis on rest. Slacking off is the highest calling of mammals. Desire to "be meaningful" is an exclusively socially constructed need. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Entity13 09/07/25 3:30:52 AM #32: |
OhhhJa posted... There's really not a specific year you can point to and say "Yeah that's exactly where this or that generation starts" but there are definitely very real divides based on technology that you grew up with. I didnt get a smartphone until I was 19 or 20 and kids born in 2010 were raised on tablets. Definitely going to be very different mentalities Certainly, there are eras experienced by people who live them, and only them. I wouldn't call that a generational thing so much as the "right place and time" thing. And some folks have their reasons for not embracing those eras, some thinking it will just be a fad that ends as fast as it starts until the day comes they realize the fad won't end so they have to choose to relent or dig their heels into not taking part. That, again, is not necessarily a generational thing. The closest you can get to a generational thing is how many of us who were born in the 80s and early 90s were raised at the right era to learn all this technology in its formative years, leaving so many of us to be the ones to aide younger and older folks who didn't learn said technology. And yet there were older folks who learned this stuff too. Right place and time. --- http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb179/EntityXIII/entityfn7.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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fishy071 09/11/25 1:18:21 AM #33: |
I've heard that those born during the transition from Generation X to Millenials were sometimes called Xenials. --- "You don't need a reason to help people." -Zidane Tribal of Final Fantasy IX ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nichtcrawler-X 09/11/25 1:21:26 AM #34: |
Entity13 posted... And yet there were older folks who learned this stuff too. For them it was a choice.That's the reason why many of them are so against integrating technology into their work/daily life nowadays. They were promised/told it was optional way back then and they are holding on to that. --- Official Teetotaller of PotD Dovie'andi se tovya sagain! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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