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Raycon
09/12/25 7:28:52 PM
#101:


Scarecrow17 posted...
Im keeping an open mind. Thats all I can do. Maybe itll be good. Maybe itll be bad. Well see soon enough.


Same. I expect, at worst, that each "area" will have an arbitrary open zone for the bike, and the usual Metroid structure for the rest.

Ideally it's just the main hub area and nothing else, though. Open world can be good for some things, but I don't think Metroid is that niche.

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--Zero-
09/12/25 7:39:19 PM
#102:


Topics like this is why Nintendo fans are fickle and franchises die.

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__aCEr__
09/12/25 8:18:53 PM
#103:


I hear the Metroid game on Gamecube is going to be first person. What's up with that?

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Woeful_Nienna
09/12/25 8:22:17 PM
#104:


Open World? What a pity.

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Shrek
09/12/25 9:33:53 PM
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so are grand theft auto 1, 2, 3, san andreas, vice city, 4, ect. not open world then

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MotaroRIP619
09/12/25 9:39:09 PM
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I like open world games a lot, to me a linear adventure game feels way too restrictive at times like Im not actually in control of my adventure but Im just following a script.
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SAlYAN
09/12/25 10:32:49 PM
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SAlYAN posted...
Today I learned that Elden Ring is not an open world because you cannot access Leyndell, Mountaintop of Giants, Consecrated Snowfield, Miquella's Haligtree, Mohgwyn Palace, and Crumbling Farum Azula until certain conditions are met.


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Delirious_Beard
09/12/25 10:37:38 PM
#109:


MotaroRIP619 posted...
I like open world games a lot, to me a linear adventure game feels way too restrictive at times like Im not actually in control of my adventure but Im just following a script.

it's fine for certain genres, but nintendo shoehorning it into every series is getting really annoying. there is nothing interesting about driving around a big empty world in mario kart for example

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PraetorXyn
09/12/25 10:59:14 PM
#110:


MotaroRIP619 posted...
I like open world games a lot, to me a linear adventure game feels way too restrictive at times like Im not actually in control of my adventure but Im just following a script.
Open world games were fun when:
  1. We were kids with no money who only got the games our parents deigned to buy us (most of us only on birthdays and Christmases for the most part) and had nothing better to do than endlessly play the few games we had
  2. You basically only got one every few years when the next Grand Theft Auto or Elder Scrolls / Fallout came out, so they still felt rare and special
  3. The Rockstar / Ubisoft open world checklist collectathon formula had not been enshrined and ruined through sheer ubiquity
Now, as adults with plenty of money to buy tons of games and very little time to actually play them, in a time where basically every AAA game is open world, many of us just find them tedious.

Final Fantasy is a good example. Final Fantasy 4 and 6 each didnt have all that many side quests or optional dungeons, but the ones they had were for the most part unique and gave good rewards. Meanwhile Final Fantasy 15 has a huge empty open world thats fun to explore until the new wears off, then exploration becomes more and more tedious until youre done with it. Rather than a few rewarding side quests, there are probably at least a hundred of them, but the vast majority are boring fetch quests or go here and kill X and they might reward a Potion or a paltry amount of Gil.

The vast majority of open world games are only fun as long as you can remain immersed in them, which usually isnt long, and they feel padded and like they dont respect the players time.

There are rare exceptions that are still tremendous fun for one reason or other, but theyre few and far between. Fallout: New Vegas is at or near the pinnacle of roleplaying choices for one. Elden Ring doesnt have map markers leading you everywhere and doesnt have a million bullshit things to collect, so the exploration felt more organic and fun like when we were kids. Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk 2077 have some of the best quest design I can remember in open world games.

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MotaroRIP619
09/12/25 11:43:34 PM
#111:


^ Right, and I have enjoyed it every time Nintendo has played with the open world concept. Pokmon, Zelda and Mario all had great open world games in my opinion. I think Metroid will also be great.
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gikos
09/12/25 11:47:43 PM
#112:


Shrek posted...
so are grand theft auto 1, 2, 3, san andreas, vice city, 4, ect. not open world then
yep they are more open sandbox games to be correct of it's genre

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creativeme
09/13/25 12:11:01 AM
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i'll still give it a chance but nintendo has been great lately at ruining their games.

i never beat any of the other prime games. only played the first and was pretty close to the end as a kid but never finished. started the remake last year but didn't really get into it much. only put like 2 hours in or something and haven't touched it in forever now. keep saying i'll go back but never actually do. but i want to beat the trilogy before getting 4 anyways. if 4 turns out its meh then guess that gives me that much longer to take my team beating the trilogy.

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PraetorXyn
09/13/25 12:24:13 AM
#114:


MotaroRIP619 posted...
^ Right, and I have enjoyed it every time Nintendo has played with the open world concept. Pokmon, Zelda and Mario all had great open world games in my opinion. I think Metroid will also be great.
Opposite for me. Breath of the Wild was fun until the new wore off then became more and more of a chore until I completed it.

I havent played a Mario since Sunshine, mainly because I hated motion controls and Galaxy used them, but Mario Kart World being open world is definitely to its detriment. The actual races are much worse than dedicated tracks in the classic style, because most of them are spent traveling from one track to another. Theres a reason everyone online voted in a way to get dedicated tracks instead of the boring stretches, and then Nintendo removed that ability. Driving around in the free roaming is fun for half an hour or so, then you get bored.

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Shrek
09/13/25 12:30:49 AM
#115:


gikos posted...
yep they are more open sandbox games to be correct of it's genre

that's the dumbest attempt at genre revision i've seen today and that's impressive because i've been on twitter

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MotaroRIP619
09/13/25 12:32:14 AM
#116:


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Opposite for me. Breath of the Wild was fun until the new wore off then became more and more of a chore until I completed it.

I havent played a Mario since Sunshine, mainly because I hated motion controls and Galaxy used them, but Mario Kart World being open world is definitely to its detriment. The actual races are much worse than dedicated tracks in the classic style, because most of them are spent traveling from one track to another. Theres a reason everyone online voted in a way to get dedicated tracks instead of the boring stretches, and then Nintendo removed that ability. Driving around in the free roaming is fun for half an hour or so, then you get bored.

Mario Kart was ok I have never been a huge Mario Kart fan anyhow, I do enjoy the races and the online play though. I thought Odyssey was absolutely amazing. And I loved TOTK and BOTW.

The first legends game was pretty good, and Im cautiously optimistic about the next legends game although Im definitely waiting for reviews due to the new battle system.

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gikos
09/13/25 12:34:31 AM
#117:


Shrek posted...
that's the dumbest attempt at genre revision i've seen today and that's impressive because i've been on twitter
wut. gta has all been called a sandbox games
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandbox_game

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Raycon
09/13/25 12:45:09 AM
#118:


PraetorXyn posted...
Opposite for me. Breath of the Wild was fun until the new wore off then became more and more of a chore until I completed it.


Same. I have no love for this vacuousness they want us to entertain ourselves with. Give me a more focused gameplay experience over that, any day.

gikos posted...

wut. gta has all been called a sandbox games
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandbox_game


Yeah, that's not new...

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rexcrk
09/13/25 6:17:30 AM
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Im definitely.. a bit wary about the game. The open world aspect of Breath of the Wild got old fast and Im always surprised to hear that people love that shit.

The motorcycle could be cool, but I just hope it isnt overused like the damn Batmobile in Arkham Knight.

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