Current Events > Is it just me, or have leftists and liberals been nonviolent to a fucking fault?

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Like I'm actually shocked at how peaceful it's been on the left.

Since Trump started term 2 specifically.

It's not just you

Kennedy said something along the lines of those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. At this point I think most people just dont have it in them as long as they can be distracted by their phone and their TV and other hobbies etc.

PraetorXyn posted...

Kennedy said something along the lines of those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. At this point I think most people just dont have it in them as long as they can be distracted by their phone and their TV and other hobbies etc.

Panem et circenses in a nutshell, baby. As long as the masses have their creature comforts, they won't bother to rebel. It was true for the Romans, and it's just as true for us.

Trump says radical leftists are the "problem" when it's the radical right who's executing or attempting to execute people.

His reign of chaos can't end soon enough.

Okay sure but liberals say stupid things on social media sometimes. Same thing both sides

Why would a collective group try to be violent this early into term? If you want to rally people to a cause, it has to be nonviolent and people need to feel the brunt of damage their vote, or lack of voting, caused in order to change their idiocy. I think the situation becomes different after midterms.

I dont want violence, all Im saying is it would not surprise me in the least if that was the timeline.

The democrat party has a problem of always trying to remain civil even while the right is going insane and following zero rules. That is why Republicans always get away with everything

Leftists tend to focus more on property damage while right wingers are more lethally violent.

Left keeps on not making use of the NRA. I'd bet anything gun control would have more bipartisan consensus if we did.

Crushed515151 posted...

Why would a collective group try to be violent this early into term? If you want to rally people to a cause, it has to be nonviolent and people need to feel the brunt of damage their vote, or lack of voting, caused in order to change their idiocy. I think the situation becomes different after midterms.

The right keeps threatening violence. Especially in recent days. It isnt as bad since the shooters identity was confirmed, but some are still doing it. I dont want it to happen, thought makes me sick. But if people keep getting threatened, or worse actually attacked, who knows what will happen.

I just believe, on an ethical level, there at plenty leftists and liberals who will ultimately have a hard time pulling the trigger. At least alone. A lot of principles on the left are based on encouraging human life, i.e. civil rights or healthcare.

Not to mention we still have bread and circuses to keep the temperature down. I don't know what point it will take for a large scale, violent uprising.

The problem is that the right controls the narrative.

Left Wing violence is a thing in the US but it is drowned out (enormously) by right wing violence.

Most attacks on GOP figures and politicians likewise comes from the right

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creativerealms posted...

The problem is that the right controls the narrative.

You even see it on Reddit and GameFAQs lol

Conservatives dogwhistling about exterminating leftists and minorities? A-okay! Talking about defending yourselves from conservatives? Not allowed

I actually thought it would be deliciously ironic if Charlie Kirk was what finally got us some gun laws, but since it turned out to be one of theirs again we know it isn't going to happen

Modern leftists are generally inherently nonviolent, but part of the reason why the right (leadership anyway) will always say it's violence in the left, is to one get their followers angry, but two keep leftists from being violent.

Compassion and empathy are important values on the left. Aggressive violence requires one to abandon those values

RickMoranis posted...

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Exactly the right control the narrative. They there for control reality. Even though they are wrong.

creativerealms posted...

The problem is that the right controls the narrative.

This is, by and large, the biggest issue. Think about it. If the left is demonized because people view them as the violent ones, imagine how much more support the left would get if the narrative matched reality more. The problem is that the methods of getting proper messaging out are dominated by the right.

TC, enacting violence, like the right, only solidify their position in aiming to exterminate you and they are far more powerful in that regard. You can't utilize the same tools that the right does. You have to find other ways.

The left wing hasn't been NEARLY as violent as they had been if you look 60 years in the past. Like, Black Panthers were left wing and they used to kill people. Weather Underground, a communist group out of University of Michigan (that's completely defunct), used to blow up government buildings.

The right has to pretend Aunty Fa is an actual organization like the previous two I mentioned and that they're somehow capable of escaping any kind of COINTELPRO or FBI counter-intelligence and evading capture. I've yet to see some kind of evidence of ANTIFA conspiracy plot that captures a group of violent radicals.

Nowadays leftists talk about ignoring petty crime as their triumphant real life activism. It's nowhere near the same. The right wing is way way more violent, like trying to kidnap and kill the Michigan governor or the El Paso Shooting or the Pittsburgh Synagogue shooting or the Christchurch Shooting (one of the deadliest mass shootings of all time). Even that girl from the Abundant Life Christian School shooting from last year was a "fan" of Anders Breivik IIRC.

creativerealms posted...

The problem is that the right controls the narrative.

Yep. We've allowed billionaires buy every bit of media to spin everything in whatever direction they want.

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I agree, but left vs right isn't exactly a class issue. At most, you have a lot of conservatives acting against their interests

So if the left has been nonviolent "to a fault", what sort of violence are you hoping to see and how do you think it will improve things?

RickMoranis posted...

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Wtf does this even mean? Lol

Liberals? Yes. Leftists? Not so much. At this point leftist gun groups have showed up armed to defend all sorts of things but the right never tries to pull up because they're cowards.

The federal government actually removed a page showing the political or racial distribution of mass shooters over the last, I think it was 20 years

84% right wing

suchiuomizu posted...

The right keeps threatening violence. Especially in recent days. It isnt as bad since the shooters identity was confirmed, but some are still doing it. I dont want it to happen, thought makes me sick. But if people keep getting threatened, or worse actually attacked, who knows what will happen.

They are looking for any reason to act, and we know that.

One side fetishizes guns, glorifies violence and all facets or narcissism, and actively works to spread delusions and stupidity. That's a combination that's basically designed to push individuals over the edge. The other side rejects all that, so any possibility of violence is generally going to be framed as a necessary evil that's done together by a group showing solidarity. That's not really prone to happening unless something does extremely widespread edge-pushing.

It's absolutely the fault of many people on the left who failed to vote. Them not backing up their cries for revolution prior to the last election, that part was kind of expected.