Current Events > Gov Shapiro says Harris will have to answer for not speaking out on Biden health

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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/josh-shapiro-kamala-harris-biden-rcna232207

Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro said former Vice President Kamala Harris will have to answer for why she did not speak out publicly about former President Joe Bidens ability to serve during his term. Shapiro, widely seen as a potential 2028 presidential contender, made the remarks in a new SiriusXM show hosted by sports commentator and personality Stephen A. Smith. Smith asked Shapiro about an excerpt from Harris soon-to-be-released book on her presidential campaign. Was it grace, or was it recklessness? Harris wrote of the White Houses handling of Bidens decision to run for re-election, per an excerpt of the book. In retrospect, I think it was recklessness. The stakes were simply too high. This wasnt a choice that should have been left to an individuals ego, an individuals ambition. It should have been more than a personal decision.

Speaking with Shapiro, Smith asked the governor how Americans should feel when we hear something that we suspected but wasnt acknowledged by politicians who were looking for our support, and then we find out later we were right, and they should have spoken up, and they should have shown more courage. Shapiro said he had not read Harris book, adding that shes going to have to answer to how she was in the room and yet never said anything publicly.

She isn't going to answer, her book seems to be just whining about Biden and blaming everything on him like she isn't a grown ass adult.

Well Biden successfully served out his term. It's done, he finished it. What is there to answer for.

meanwhile everyone in the current administration is radio silent on Trump's droopy stroke face.

Didn't she have a pop at Shapiro in her book?

This would be retaliation.

Ahh, yes, keep attacking Democrats. That makes sense.

Is Stupid A. Smith going to call the sitting VP in to ask him why he's been radio silent on the bruised hands and swollen legs on the convicted felon in the oval office?

sounds like an asshole, though honestly why harris wrote a book like that makes me question how smart she is. i guess she wanted quick money.

Democrats continue to spiral.

monkmith posted...

sounds like an asshole, though honestly why harris wrote a book like that makes me question how smart she is. i guess she wanted quick money.

She got a $20m advance.

She will never be able to command that kind of money again.

"Why was Harris, as VP, not publicly calling into questions Biden's ability to serve as president while they were both campaigning in opposition to Trump?"

Shit like this just goes to show endemic Democrats purity testing issue is. You'll never see anyone asking Vance or anyone in Trump's administration why they're not publicly squabbling over an issue.

obsolete posted...

Well Biden successfully served out his term.

I question your use of the word "successfully".

BlueTigerLion posted...

when we hear something that we suspected but wasnt acknowledged by politicians who were looking for our support, and then we find out later we were right, and they should have spoken up, and they should have shown more courage.

You mean like what's happening right now with politicians not speaking up about what Trump is doing? Where's your courage Shapiro?

Reminder that Harris lost because she was a terrible candidate.

They buried the lede. Shapiro criticizes Newsom and other Democrats who oppose Trump, then claims through a spokesman that he actually supports them and was actually criticizing Trump?

Hes trying to have it both ways.

Smith noted that California Gov. Gavin Newsom and other Democrats have taken a harder line in their rhetoric toward Trump and asked Shapiro whether there is an equivalence between Trumps rhetoric and that of his opponents.

I do believe that all leaders need to speak and act with moral clarity, and I believe that starts with the president of the United States, he said. I think, sadly, too many people in our politics today appeal to the lowest common denominator, because it gets them some likes on social media, some clicks. I think what we need to do is appeal to our highest common denominator.

Smith followed up, asking what if that strategy won't win elections, and again pointed to Newsom, another potential 2028 contender.

Because the Gavin Newsoms of the world have alluded to that theyve talked about ... something needing to be done, fighting fire with fire, Smith said.

Some people would say that the only way to deal with it is to fight fire with fire, to replicate his behavior to some degree," he added, "just to be able to fend off the onslaught of momentum he appears to be building as his presidency continues.

Shapiro said he would not be taking such a path, saying his resounding victories in Pennsylvania involved bringing Republicans and Democrats and independents together and showing them that we can have a positive, constructive way forward.

That has been a formula for success appealing to the highest common denominator, bringing people together, he added. I refuse to accept that youve got to attack your fellow Americans in order to win an election, and I simply wont engage in that.

Manuel Bonder, a Shapiro spokesperson, said in a statement that Shapiro was not criticizing Newsoms strategy but rather taking issue with the president.

"Governor Shapiro was very clearly speaking about Donald Trumps recklessness and dangerous rhetoric that has divided Americans, Bonder said. He stands alongside Gov. Newsom and his fellow Democratic governors who are doing the critical work of pushing back on Donald Trumps chaos and attacks on our democracy.

CastletonSnob1 posted...

Reminder that Harris lost because she was a terrible candidate.

Harris was originally a good candidate. But for some stupid reason the dumb focus testing or whatever made her drop everything that was working the second it was working.

Like, the first like 3 weeks leading into Harris' debate with Trump was so good. But then she just like, gave up. Started hanging around with like, Dick Cheney like that could accomplish anything positive.

Strand posted...

Shapiro said he would not be taking such a path, saying his resounding victories in Pennsylvania involved bringing Republicans and Democrats and independents together and showing them that we can have a positive, constructive way forward.

Guess what, Bensy Shapes?

That world is fucking dead.

And the people you want to collaborate with killed it.

One of those situations where everyone mentioned sucks shit

Proto_Spark posted...

Harris was originally a good candidate. But for some stupid reason the dumb focus testing or whatever made her drop everything that was working the second it was working.

Like, the first like 3 weeks leading into Harris' debate with Trump was so good. But then she just like, gave up. Started hanging around with like, Dick Cheney like that could accomplish anything positive.

I keep coming back to this Twitter/Bluesky post someone made last October: "it was kinda cool those three weeks Kamala campaigned on "Republicans are weird and we're not going back" before deciding to pivot to "Republicans are my friends and they're good and we can do Republican policy even better than they can," the exact same strategy that already lost to Trump."

HashtagSEP posted...

Ahh, yes, keep attacking Democrats. That makes sense.

Shapiro is clearly angling for a 2028 bid and he's going after one of his rivals early

This is clearly self-serving for him but it at least makes sense

There's also some sour grapes from not getting her VP nod, plus she also said some choice words about him in her book

Sure, this is more pressing than Trump, the sitting President of the United States who is doing far worse things.

asdf8562 posted...

Sure, this is more pressing than Trump, the sitting President of the United States who is doing far worse things.

That's the point, gotta start with the hate and division early in an already divided nation.

Thanatos_the_Great posted...

I keep coming back to this Twitter/Bluesky post someone made last October: "it was kinda cool those three weeks Kamala campaigned on "Republicans are weird and we're not going back" before deciding to pivot to "Republicans are my friends and they're good and we can do Republican policy even better than they can," the exact same strategy that already lost to Trump."

Yeah, I never understood why anyone thought including Hillary Clinton's consulting people was a fucking winning strategy.

Sure. By the way, whats going on with Trump's hand that he tries to hide all of the time and is always covered in makeup and what was with his drooping face during the 9/11 memorial?

VincentVega posted...

Sure. By the way, whats going on with Trump's hand that he tries to hide all of the time and is always covered in makeup and what was with his drooping face during the 9/11 memorial?

Not important.

What is important is Biden.

Got some serious Biden Derangement Syndrome going on.

obsolete posted...

Well Biden successfully served out his term. It's done, he finished it. What is there to answer for.

Letting him run for a second term despite his deteriorating health and promise not to, until it was too late for a primary or for any last-minute candidate to run a strong campaign, essentially sabotaging the Democrats' chances because they got complacent just like they fucking did with Hillary.

I hope Shapiro doesnt get eaten by the donor class. Id vote for him in a heartbeat

Our next 500 topic for sure.

If Trump dies before Biden does, Biden should go on tv and just say person, woman, man, camera, TV.

DipDipDiver posted...

If Trump dies before Biden does, Biden should go on tv and just say person, woman, man, camera, TV.

Nah, just have him sitting there, drinking coffee from a mug and smile.

boomgetchopped3 posted...

I hope Shapiro doesnt get eaten by the donor class. Id vote for him in a heartbeat

Ugh really?

Thanatos_the_Great posted...

I keep coming back to this Twitter/Bluesky post someone made last October: "it was kinda cool those three weeks Kamala campaigned on "Republicans are weird and we're not going back" before deciding to pivot to "Republicans are my friends and they're good and we can do Republican policy even better than they can," the exact same strategy that already lost to Trump."

B-b-but the internal polls we took amongst ourselves said punching left and veering right was the smart thing!

Bass posted...

Yeah, I never understood why anyone thought including Hillary Clinton's consulting people was a fucking winning strategy.

Or Liz and Dick Cheney, like wtf

I wish democrats would stop blaming each other and focus more on what can be done at this point. Trump is destroying this country and they need to come together on a solution to all this mess.

Circular firing squad, assemble!

A_Good_Boy posted...

"Why was Harris, as VP, not publicly calling into questions Biden's ability to serve as president while they were both campaigning in opposition to Trump?"

Shit like this just goes to show endemic Democrats purity testing issue is. You'll never see anyone asking Vance or anyone in Trump's administration why they're not publicly squabbling over an issue.

Because Republican's are a cult. Anyone that questions the narrative gets unpersoned. Are you wishing for Democrats to be like that? We follow what dear leader says without question and anyone who does disappears.

Answer for what? Not climbing up on the white house roof and shouting "THE SKY IS FALLING! THE VERY OLD MAN YOU ELECTED CONTINUED TO GET EVEN OLDER AND IS CONFUSED SOMETIMES!"?

I dunno, man. I'm too exhausted from being in the second dookie cookie of a Trump/Biden/Trump Oreo to care that the cream filling wasn't the freshest.

Dio posted...

Because Republican's are a cult. Anyone that questions the narrative gets unpersoned. Are you wishing for Democrats to be like that? We follow what dear leader says without question and anyone who does disappears.

When you're months away from an election? Absolutely. Criticize at the primary or after we've won, but if you're still criticizing right up until the polls open then don't act surprised when you've lost since you've essentially spent all your time carrying water for your political opponents.

Dio posted...

Because Republican's are a cult. Anyone that questions the narrative gets unpersoned. Are you wishing for Democrats to be like that? We follow what dear leader says without question and anyone who does disappears.

I'm wishing for Democrats to have a modicum of competence. There's no excuse for losing to Trump TWICE.

The_Wheelman1 posted...

I wish democrats would stop blaming each other and focus more on what can be done at this point. Trump is destroying this country and they need to come together on a solution to all this mess.

That's never going to happen as this topic so eloquently shows. Trump and what he's doing just isn't important enough.

There's a stupidity problem in this country.

asdf8562 posted...

Sure, this is more pressing than Trump, the sitting President of the United States who is doing far worse things.

It's what the CoG are good at. Completely ignoring Trump's rampant destruction of the country (which we predicted and the CoG handwaved if not outright assisted. Because...you know...they were trying to help get Trump reelected) while pointing the finger for anything and everything at the dems.

Strider102 posted...

That's never going to happen as this topic so eloquently shows. Trump and what he's doing just isn't important enough.

There's a stupidity problem in this country.

It's not that what Trump's doing isn't important enough. It's that the only other political party we have that has the voter base to get into power and do something about it, doesn't. Repeatedly.

We're a two-party system where one party is openly evil and the other doesn't legitimately care beyond what they need to say to get votes.

People: "Hey, Trump is doing this thing that makes things worse for everyone!!!"

CoGs: "Yeah, but have you considered the coverup of Bidens health hurr durr!!!!!!"

I mean, if there was ever a time for a Democrat civil war to play out, might as well get it out of the way now so we can get some established leaders ready to go later.

As it is right now the Democratic leadership seems a combination of out of touch, lost and missing.

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To some, anyone criticizing Democrats is a C.O.G. and a protest voter.

Josh Shapiro was actually the leader of Abandon Harris, it's all coming together...

TMOG posted...

Letting him run for a second term despite his deteriorating health and promise not to, until it was too late for a primary or for any last-minute candidate to run a strong campaign, essentially sabotaging the Democrats' chances because they got complacent just like they fucking did with Hillary.

And despite that, Harris still managed some incredible momentum at first until she decided to fall back on the typical Democrat campaign.

Harris needs to fucking retire like political losers used to do. Hillary had the good sense to fuck off, why can't she?