Board 8 > ~FIGHT!~ Fio Germi vs Isaac Clarke

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Fio Germi has challenged Isaac Clarke to a fight! Location of the fight: Hell's Kitchen - It's not the end of the world, but you can see it from here. With martial law enforced, riots out on the streets and buildings boarded up, this New York neighbourhood has seen better days. All buildings and locales are accessible, and are as seen in the first visit to the location in Deus Ex if applicable, including the Warehouse district and NSF headquarters. Security systems are currently offline, but may be reactivated as appropriate, and cameras are online and active. No enemies or NPCs are present, though any medical and repair bots will be present and function as normal. Attackers will begin at JC's landing point after his visit to Battery Park, while defenders will begin at Paul Denton's apartment. Which side will win?

Guidelines

-The fight will occur in real-time (like an FMV sequence). Gameplay mechanics are less important than how the characters would function in a real-time environment.
-The members of each team are ideal teammates capable of executing a prearranged battle plan.
-Unless stated otherwise, characters have access to their full arsenal of abilities and equipment. They may not always work at full power, however (e.g. a petrifying spell may have only a partial hindering effect not seen in gameplay or even fail outright against sufficiently powerful mercenaries). Use your own discretion.
-No mercenary can ever start in a location where they would die instantly, destroy the arena merely by existing in it, or end up ringed out of the terrain before abilities. If there's no room within a terrain to fit them, the terrain will stretch out until there's at least one yard of available, moving, safe space. Attacks may not damage the terrain enough to cause automatic deaths or ring-outs, save with a concerted effort.
-Mercenaries are considered 'downed' when defeated, unable to be roused except through a revival technique. A revival technique cannot affect a mercenary whose physical body has been completely destroyed and will not relocate them away from danger (ex. falling off of the terrain, being impaled, falling in lava), unless it would naturally do so in its own universe.
-There may be SPOILERS from all of the games the characters are from.

Rules for Voting

-Bold your votes.
-You do not need to justify for your vote, though the admins reserve the right to disqualify votes in the advent of obvious alt voting and other similar scenarios.
-Leaders cannot vote for their own teams, but they are free to argue their case.
-If you want to switch your votes simply bold the change; there's no need to delete your post, though you may if you wish.
-This match will end in 24 hours.

Fio Germi is as she appears in the Metal Slug series and King of Fighters: Maximum Impact 2 (so shes not necessarily dying in one hit). She is equipped with her Tonfa, Hatchet, Handgun, Big Heavy Machine Gun, Flame Shot, Laser Gun, Rocket Launcher, Enemy Chaser, Drop Shot, Super Grenade, and a healthy supply of Fire Bombs. She is piloting the SV-001 with Armour-Piercing Rounds equipped, and may embark and disembark from it as normal.

~VS~

Isaac Clarke is as he appears across the Dead Space series. He is in top mental condition and his RIG, modules and weaponry are all considered to be fully upgraded. He brings with him a Plasma Cutter, Pulse Rifle, Seeker Rifle, Contact Beam and Flamethrower, as well as abundant ammo, stasis cells, and two large medpacks.

Arguments for Fio:

This is pretty straightforward. Fio severely outclasses Isaac as a fighter, has the advantage of a tank to protect her, and even has the better ordnance too. Her guns are actual guns designed to defeat extraterrestrial entities and huge warmachines, not tools repurposed to defeat reanimated dead humans. Better still, if the events of Metal Slug's various games (which I'm assuming most people have played at least a bit) give any room for doubt, she's superhuman. The intro of Metal Slug 3D shows this (the various feats more or less apply to all of the playable members equally) and Metal Slug Attack's cutscenes corroborate it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMDBpc2VTzU

So she's way fast, has weapons that punch holes in building sized enemies, and a tank too to hide within. What does Isaac got? Hi-tech has proven to flop against her. This is an easy gg.

Arguments for Isaac:

Isaac Adapts (TM).

That's his thing. He's not a soldier, not a badass action hero. Instead, he's a survivor, who uses everything available to him to win. And boy howdy does he have options here. Hell's Kitchen has turrets he can reprogram, cameras he can use to track Fio, and ample locales to prep a deathtrap at. And he'll find ways to do it with his kinesis module (basically a gravity gun), too. Better still, he has access to Stasis, a super severe temporal slowdown projectile. If it lands on Fio, she's just done, slowed to an absolute crawl. And it likely will, since that tank of hers is a nice big target!

In terms of weaponry, the standouts in Isaac's arsenal are his pulse rifle (an assault rifle weapon in futuretech style, equipped with a nade launcher in case it's needed to blow up the Slug), the Seeker Rifle (a sniper rifle, perfect for wiping things out from afar) and the Contact Beam, a mining particle accelerator that can fire a projectile at absolutely lunatic speeds, impossible for anyone to dodge once it's fired. All he needs is one clean shot to end things, and he's excellent at working under pressure. No reason he won't find it, and when he does, victory will be his.

I view Isaacs weaponry as basically laser saws. Can these laser saws cut through metal the same way they do monsters?

Chaeix posted...

I view Isaacs weaponry as basically laser saws. Can these laser saws cut through metal the same way they do monsters?

Sometimes (TM). The plasma cutter for example has this lore:

The Plasma Cutter delivers a cohesive pulse-stream, or "bolt", of ionized plasma when fired. It is capable of firing bolts vertically (primary firing mode) and horizontally (secondary firing mode). The Plasma Cutter is very accurate, utilizing three blue laser pointers to indicate the desired cutting plane.
On impact with the target, bolt cohesion fails frontward first, penetrating the target with a focused jet of superheated matter. This causes intense localized shear effects as well as a tunneling thermal expansion. When used upon brittle, frozen rocks riddled with faults, it can split them open in one or two shots in skilled hands. Against pliable targets (Necromorphs), however, impact will cause minimal damage and thermal expansion will not so much cut as stress the area around the impact site, sometimes requiring several consecutive hits with the non-upgraded tool. Still, when presented with a less than effective alternative against dense organic matter, the 211-V Plasma Cutter retains its utility.

I would say 'yes, but with limits'. The Contact Beam likely can punch through a tank. The others would take a lot more work to do so.

Leaning Isaac. Stasis + Contact Beam seems like a pretty solid combo for taking down Fio's tank.

KanzarisKelshen posted...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMDBpc2VTzU

thank you to whoever picked this video, it's amazing. i'm also confused. did a butterfly block the bullet for her at 1:43?

Honestly my concern is how Isaac deals with Fio on foot. I think if he hits a stasis on the tank and nukes her while she's in it this is open and shut...but I legit don't know how he hits her if she does the classic metal slug maneuver of jumping out at the last second. When a necromorph breed that is significantly faster than Isaac (Twitchers) comes at him it's a real 'fuck saving, send ALL ammo' situation and Fio has deadly ranged weaponry to go with her speed. Feels like a super polarized matchup where one side is going to dominate the other but idk which. Real '10-10 matchup' stuff

Lean fio

Someone link me some dead space or whatever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK1uyRibbU0

This is a pretty decent run of one of the more challenging levels of the second game, played on 'you die and you restart from scratch' mode without being a speedrun that just ignores everything. Shows off Isaac's space wizard gimmicks and the effectiveness of his improvised weaponry.

banananor posted...

thank you to whoever picked this video, it's amazing. i'm also confused. did a butterfly block the bullet for her at 1:43?

Seems like it. However, there is a dearth of butterflies in neo-New York. Fio is cooked.

HEAVYMACHINEGUN. Throwing the tank at Isaac, leaping clear and shooting him seems like it'd do it, and that's a common Fio strat

Isaac solos

Think he can take out the tank, disengage and then snipe Fio later. He'll be slow and deliberate but coming out on top.

Hmm tough fight

Gonna go with isaac I think, that time stasis seems kinda OPOpie

Fio. It's very close but I think she has it. I could see it going the other way too though.

Ill look at videos later or tomorrow, havent had good enough service to watch things while camping