Current Events > Unpopular opinion, but I think Red Dead Redemption 1 is better than 2

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1 just feels right. It plays well and isn't stiff like 2. It's got a simple yet fun world. You have a lot more wacky and strange characters. I really like the weird vibes as well. And finally, it plays like a game. 2 tries too hard to be realistic and I feel like that hinders the fun. Sure there's a lot more to do in 2 but it feels like a chore just to get to those things.

That's not an unpopular opinion.

Rob_the_Ninja posted...

That's not an unpopular opinion.

Oh cool

Don't fault anyone for picking one or the other. They are like Rockstar games if they tried to be serious. I just love 2. Story made me cry

Good opinion. RDR2 was a huge letdown.

Kaldrenthebold posted...

Don't fault anyone for picking one or the other. They are like Rockstar games if they tried to be serious. I just love 2. Story made me cry

I'm sure the story is really good, but I still need to get around to beating it :/ I've put in 15 hours so far, but stopped playing a while ago. I do need to finish it, but the game is hard to get attached to for me.

1 is tighter but it being beat for beat the wild bunch takes a point off for me

i think 1 is better written but i think Arthur is so well-developed and acted a character that he carries 2 into the stratosphere

i completely agree, because 1 didnt make everything glacially slow and tedious in the name of realism.

2 actively feels like ass to actually play and move around in so 1 beats it on that metric alone.

I tried RDR2 on 2 different platforms and couldn't get into it. My last attempt I accidentally climbed in the back of someone's wagon and got a bounty and was like fuck this.

1 has this strange and kooky vibe to it that's just interesting. 2 sort of has it, but not enough, imo. But yeah, the most important thing here is that 1 just plays well. 2's main issue is the stiff realism. Sometimes it makes for some interesting and mind blowing moments that you can't find anywhere else in gaming, but the slowness is not good either. Double-edged sword.

I love RDR2 but it went too far with its "realism" in ways that just made the game feel unfun. Looting is an absolute chore, maintaining your health, stamina and deadeye, etc

RDR1 is more arcadey and dumb (for better and worse)

But for me RDR2 is just better in every way

Had way more fun with 1. 2 was a huge chore to play, didn't even finish it.

yeah, I like the first one a lot better

at one point i shared the "it's clunky" grievance but that melted away when i played it like a wild west sim instead of like an old west gta, fwiw

They're both good games, but 2 made me feel like another human in a living world of humans whereas 1 felt more like GTA in the Wild West.

I finished 2 never did beat 1 might need to snag it on sale

Its a great game, a common opinion, and I dont beat you up for it. But RDR2 to me is a masterpiece that is my favorite game of all time since gaming regularly from 1980 to now. Westerns are my favorite genre for shows, movies, and this game delivered.

With a couple small changes to story mode it would have been perfection to me. Still a masterpiece. Love it. I know people complain about the realism but I never got tired of it. Even after like 600 hours of nothing but hunting and skinning a rabbit for the thousandth time and skinning other animals for a thousand times I loved it. Pure joy. Best world ever created.

Alright, I'll try going into the game as if it's a wild west simulator rather than a GTA wild west next time.

I loved playing through RDR1. I honestly bounced off the main game of RDR2, and never made it more than an hour or two. Online is great, though; fun way to chill and kill time.

Pikachuchupika posted...

Alright, I'll try going into the game as if it's a wild west simulator rather than a GTA wild west next time.

It definitely benefits from a fair amount of patience and just taking time to enjoy the beautiful world and experiencing interactions with the people. I imagine if you're trying to brute force your way through content like most games are designed then it'd be frustrating because it's meant to be enjoyed at a slower pace.

It's also part of the reason why I liked Watch Dogs 2 so much, it was legitimately enjoyable to track down the sights (which were also collectibles in their own way) and to use your hacking abilities to interact with the world. And a big part of the reason why I hated Legion because it had none of that, the world didn't have any soul to it.

1 actually felt like a video game. 2 was dozens of hours of cutscenes interrupted occasionally by boring shooting gallery episodes.

1 is a better game

2 is a better Cowboy Simulator

I like 1, but I can't replay it like I can 2, because the tone and gameplay feels too much like it's just GTA. I appreciate how different 2 felt in comparison, and the writing and tone just felt a lot more compelling, to me.

Played RDR1 for the first time this year. It's very good and I enjoyed it. But for me, RDR2 is on another level. An outstanding masterpiece.

I like 1 way more than 2.
its just overall more fun with a faster pace

I didn't care about the first game too much - I liked John, the rest of the main characters, and some of the story, but the game didn't "grab" me.

on the other hand, RDR2 is one of the greatest achievements in media, as far as I'm concerned, where "slow" gameplay is more methodical, to me.

there's some jank, like moving around in camp, opening cupboards, and stuff like that, but overall it's a GOAT game.

Why dont you try playing the game for more than a few hours before giving your opinion

EpicMickeyDrew posted...

Why dont you try playing the game for more than a few hours before giving your opinion

15 hours isn't enough?

It's a slow and too realistic compared to 1, nothing is going to change that.

Nothing wrong with liking what you like, but to me RDR feels so basic compared to RDR2. It used to be one of my favorite games, now I just find it kind of boring. RDR2 surpassed RDR in every possible way IMO, even the writing and dialog feels leagues beyond anything RDR did

Pikachuchupika posted...

15 hours isn't enough?

It's a slow and too realistic compared to 1, nothing is going to change that.

Could say the same about rdr1, all u do is herd cows around

HashtagSEP posted...

I like 1, but I can't replay it like I can 2, because the tone and gameplay feels too much like it's just GTA.

Back when RDR came out I would have fought you over this, but playing it now almost the entire tone of the game, especially the dialog and characters, feels like a PS2-era GTA game

DipDipDiver posted...

Back when RDR came out I would have fought you over this, but playing it now almost the entire tone of the game, especially the dialog and characters, feels like a PS2-era GTA game

Right? I would've fought me before, too! I played it when it hit PC, though, and it made me realize.

RDR1 has aged like fine wine, but RDR2 is also a masterpiece in its own right IMO I don't mind the slower approach to the game as I love just being immersed in that world. And Arthur Morgan is an all-time GOATed video game protagonist

The RDR2 engine and game realism is unmatched, but yeah RDR1 is just more fun and entertaining overall.

Very unpopular opinion but I think Revolver was better than both Redemptions.

Xatrion posted...

Very unpopular opinion but I think Revolver was better than both Redemptions.

*faints*

Xatrion posted...

Very unpopular opinion but I think Revolver was better than both Redemptions.

Admittedly when RDR1 came out while I thought it was an amazing game I was disappointed that story mode duels were not a focus and turned into a random event that rarely occurred. However I let it go and appreciated the gameplay change.

Revolver was great at the time though and in that aspect the ps3 era Call of Juarez Bound in Blood is much more of a spiritual successor to Revolver than the Redemption games are. Highly recommended. It was really good and I normally avoid first person games.

You can't go wrong in picking either in this case. Both are top tier games. I prefer 2, but I totally get why some prefer 1.

Xatrion posted...

Very unpopular opinion but I think Revolver was better than both Redemptions.

While I wouldn't go that far, it's still a great and underrated game.

I like RDR1 because its more old-school gamey. For each act you can only get so far into the completion percentage before having to advance the story. It makes it easier to keep track of challenges and missions, and feels less overwhelming. I still prefer RDR2, but the first game is some serious comfort food for me.

When I first played RDR2 on base PS4 I put it down right after that first story bar brawl in the first town because it was so slow and clunky

Picked it up when it came out on PC and its a whole different beautiful looking beast at 100+ fps max settings

I havent played RDR1 since Xbox 360 days in high school. Both amazing though

I love them both so much. Id be embarrassed to admit how much I would pay if they combined both into one epic game.

Murphiroth posted...

2 actively feels like ass to actually play and move around in so 1 beats it on that metric alone.

Being at or under 30fps doesn't help with this, either. Lol

1 is a great game and 2 feels unplayable to me. Ive tried to get into it multiple times and I always end up just sacking it off right after the prologue each time.