Current Events > The reason why I think Democrats would actually win Civil War II

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If you can't judge a nation based on who they choose to place into power then what can you judge them on?

The idea that a US civil war today would somehow be relegated to only the continental US and everyone else will be able to comfortably sip their drink and wait for it to be over is hopelessly naive.

Nothing. A nation isnt any one thing unless that one thing gets 100% of the vote. The nation incudes 75 million patriots who tried to stop this. So you cant judge or blame the nation for anything. Just the fuckwits who won and the fuckwits who enabled them. Leave the 75 million patriots out of it.

Nothing. A nation isnt any one thing unless that one thing gets 100% of the vote. The nation incudes 75 million patriots who tried to stop this. So you cant judge or blame the nation for anything. Just the fuckwits who won and the fuckwits who enabled them. Leave the 75 million patriots out of it.

That's my thoughts as well. It's like blaming the North Korean people because their leaders are evil pricks, or blaming all Japanese men because of the train molesters.

Other nations like China, Canada and Mexico would aid the Democrats side, plus Democrats are a little smarter

As a Canadian I wouldn't support sending a single cent of our money to the US in the event of a civil war. You guys saw the train coming at you, you were warned by both sides about what would happen, you let it happen and continue to let it happen. America needs to sort its shit out on its own.

We'll be in the EU having tea while you burn yourselves to dust.

The idea that a US civil war today would somehow be relegated to only the continental US and everyone else will be able to comfortably sip their drink and wait for it to be over is hopelessly naive.

That's my thoughts as well. It's like blaming the North Korean people because their leaders are evil pricks, or blaming all Japanese men because of the train molesters.

I'm sorry, the what now?? Canadian here laughing at the enablers who think they're getting backed up for blood...

We'll be in the EU having tea while you burn yourselves to dust.

1. There won't be a civil war lol
2. If there was a civil war no one would get involved lol

More like if the US becomes Nazi Germany youd become a Poland or France.

You cant help a country that doesnt want to help itself

Or it's like none of those things cause the population at large isn't responsible for voting for the Kim's every few years and people don't voluntarily choose to put molestors on the trains. But Americans do pick and choose their leaders, hell they even tell people to avoid the vote when the choices are too icky. So I don't see how the comparisons are in any way apt.

Yep, the Duck Dynasty marines will give blood for our trees & water.

More like if the US becomes Nazi Germany youd become a Poland or France.

But a Canadian government unilaterally deploying the military to intervene offensively in an American civil war? No dice. Good luck selling it to the public that their sons and daughters need to go give their lives to save the United States from itself.

The side that wins is the one that ends up with the military tbh. If it happened today, I would be very surprised if democrats won tbh.

Yeah, there's no getting around the ugly fact that Trump represents the "will of the people" in a way that Kim and Putin simply don't.

That said, Trump most certainly does not represent the will of every American.

At most, you'd get volunteers coming down across the border to fight, and *maybe* Canadian deployments in friendly border states for security purposes if the state governments asked. And that's to say nothing of the *massive* amount of refugees that would come streaming north. Our military would probably need to be deployed just to deal with that.

But a Canadian government unilaterally deploying the military to intervene offensively in an American civil war? No dice. Good luck selling it to the public that their sons and daughters need to go give their lives to save the United States from itself.

That presumes that a United States that emerges from a civil war would be in anywhere near a condition to think about invading its neighbours.

This. No other country in the world would be stupid enough to put boots on the ground or expend any significant funding on a US civil war 2.0.

All the US would get from overseas in that event is online ratfucking from Russia et al.

It would be to save Canada. If fascism fully descends on America and we become like nazi Germany , guess who the first to be invaded will be? I can't understand why the Canadians in this topic aren't getting this. Its completely in Canada's self preservation interest to stop Trump

What are Canadians going to do against the US military? The US has 100 million more people than we do, much higher quality military tech, 90% of our population lives within a few hours of the US border, we would be completely outmatched. Us putting boots on the ground would trigger a world war and open direct hostilities between Canada and the US. If the US invades us we would have the backing of a good portion of the world.

If you guys think Canada will be a safe haven if war breaks out, think again. Our country has its own problems. Our Healthcare system is near collapse, we dont have enough doctors for our population now, theres no jobs, there isn't enough housing, everything costs more. Taking in even a few million Americans would destroy us.

That's why you need fight for yourselves, right now. You had your No Kings protest, great. Trump.posted a video of him pooping on protesters, then decided the Justice Deaprtment owes him $230 million dollars and then started tearing down the White House to build his vanity project. What are you going to do about it? I don't the frog costumes are working.

Or it's like none of those things cause the population at large isn't responsible for voting for the Kim's every few years and people don't voluntarily choose to put molestors on the trains. But Americans do pick and choose their leaders, hell they even tell people to avoid the vote when the choices are too icky. So I don't see how the comparisons are in any way apt.

also every election, there is a large portion of citizens who don't vote. I believe that if 100% of the population voted, Republicans would never win a presidential election. Ever. They only win because of dirty tactics that makes it inconvenient for some people to vote. And they know who to inconvenience

Bad news pal, Dems and Repubs are actually on the same side behind closed doors. This whole country is being taken for a ride while the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.

the plutocracy has near-total control of both parties via the R and D donor classes

Add up all US spending on candidates, PACs, lobbying, think tanks, and advocacy organizations liberal and conservative combined and were still $2 billion short of what we spend on almonds each year.

Suppose hostile government regulation could decrease Exxon Mobils revenues 5% you would think Exxon Mobil would be willing to spend 4% of its revenue to prevent this. But Exxon makes $280 billion per year. 4% of its revenue would already be larger than the whole US political ecosystem! In fact, according to Exxons own records, they only spend about $1 million per cycle.

Maybe the most extreme example here is Tumblr.com, which recently sold for $3 million, ie the cost of a medium-sized house in San Francisco. Tumblr has 400 million monthly visitors, and at least tens of millions of active users. These people talk politics all the time, usually of a far-left variety. Nobody thinks that one of the central political discussion platforms of the far-left is worth more than $3 million? Nobody on the right wants to shut it down? Nobody on the left wants to prevent that from happening?

"it's like" nothing, we have someone in this very topic directly saying all Russians are responsible for the actions of Putin.

There's also the money and port factor. California has a good chunk of the nation's ports.

^That an interesting link. But I think there is a simpler explanation -- the way the US system has evolved, the two parties are both reliable instruments of the plutocracy as a whole. It would be bad for business (and would make the game too obvious to the people) if, e.g., Apple were to start blatantly purchasing politicians to get the results it wants.

Well you say that, but the first person to break the low spending barrier essentially bought himself into second in command at the white house for multiple months, so it clearly works pretty well <_<

No one would "Win" a civil war 2.

also every election, there is a large portion of citizens who don't vote. I believe that if 100% of the population voted, Republicans would never win a presidential election. Ever. They only win because of dirty tactics that makes it inconvenient for some people to vote. And they know who to inconvenience

Your country threatened to annex my country numerous times and is currently waging a tariff war with us for no reason. You guys are on your own.

Your country threatened to annex my country numerous times and is currently waging a tariff war with us for no reason. You guys are on your own.

If the US wants to drag other countries into its next civil war, there needs to be consequences for the losers this time. Why was the confederacy allowed to keep existing and evolve into the republicans they are today? At the end of the next civil war, all republicans should be exiled form America. Every single one of them including the voters. They had way too many chances to act like civil humans.

Exiled where?
How?

Like a forced march genocide into Mexico that doesn't want them? O_o