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Rika_Furude 10/26/25 10:55:24 AM #1:	Im like halfway in I think? Just got the redhead twins disguises Songbird says she just wants to be free. Shes like some WMD or something and basically a slave? But shes probably still hiding stuff and her plan to get V cured seems incredibly sketchy Reed seems very straightforward and like hes got your back but hes also probably not really telling the whole truth and theres probably other factors involved since Im not approaching the end of the DLC quite yet ill probably end up doing both since I want to replay the game with a berserker/swordsman type character instead of a hacker. But this game is so huge Im already 100+ hours in and only like 60% of the way in it seems <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:986843361] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>Im like halfway in I think? Just got the redhead twins disguises Songbird says she just wants to be free. Shes like some WMD or something and basically a slave? But shes probably still hiding stuff and her plan to get V cured seems incredibly sketchyReed seems very straightforward and like hes got your back but hes also probably not really telling the whole truth and theres probably other factors involved since Im not approaching the end of the DLC quite yet ill probably end up doing both since I want to replay the game with a berserker/swordsman type character instead of a hacker. But this game is so huge Im already 100+ hours in and only like 60% of the way in it seems </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Quorthon109 10/26/25 11:17:31 AM #2:	This ended up being a tough one for me and it goes beyond just choosing one side or the other. Even when you have the whole picture it's still very debatable on what the right choice is, so just go with what you feel. But I'd definitely suggest doing both paths anyway because the missions both feel and play very differently. --- http://i.imgur.com/Kjo08.jpg <cite>Quorthon109 posted [p:986843523] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>This ended up being a tough one for me and it goes beyond just choosing one side or the other. Even when you have the whole picture it's still very debatable on what the right choice is, so just go with what you feel.But I'd definitely suggest doing both paths anyway because the missions both feel and play very differently.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shotgunnova 10/26/25 11:25:06 AM #3:	Just make a spare save and do Phantom Liberty to its completion. I think there are four endings to get and they rely on a couple choices. If memory serves, finishing PL ends the entire game prematurely, so all the more reason for the backup files. --- Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame <cite>Shotgunnova posted [p:986843567] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>Just make a spare save and do Phantom Liberty to its completion. I think there are four endings to get and they rely on a couple choices. If memory serves, finishing PL ends the entire game prematurely, so all the more reason for the backup files.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
reincarnator07 10/26/25 12:25:53 PM #4:	Shotgunnova posted... Just make a spare save and do Phantom Liberty to its completion. I think there are four endings to get and they rely on a couple choices. If memory serves, finishing PL ends the entire game prematurely, so all the more reason for the backup files. PL does not end the game. In fact, some of the threads will tie into the main game and can affect the ending too. On topic: what would your character do? There isn't really a single correct or canon choice. With this being Cyberpunk, basically every choice is morally grey. --- Fan of metal? Don't mind covers? Check out my youtube and give me some feedback http://www.youtube.com/sircaballero <cite>reincarnator07 posted [p:986844041] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>Shotgunnova posted... </cite><quote>Just make a spare save and do Phantom Liberty to its completion. I think there are four endings to get and they rely on a couple choices. If memory serves, finishing PL ends the entire game prematurely, so all the more reason for the backup files.</quote>PL does not end the game. In fact, some of the threads will tie into the main game and can affect the ending too.On topic: what would your character do? There isn't really a single correct or canon choice. With this being Cyberpunk, basically every choice is morally grey.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shotgunnova 10/26/25 12:27:36 PM #5:	Really? I could've sworn they did a ~~fast-forward ending where everyone moves on and hates you~~. That must've been just one possible ending you can get. --- Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame <cite>Shotgunnova posted [p:986844059] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>Really? I could've sworn they did a fast-forward ending where everyone moves on and hates you. That must've been just one possible ending you can get.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 10/26/25 12:29:03 PM #6:	All choices are shit and involve someone who is already being fucked over getting fucked over some more. Be it V or those you are working with/against. Do both though as absolutely stellar and worth experiencing. --- Undercover cat lover <cite>Funkydog posted [p:986844070] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>All choices are shit and involve someone who is already being fucked over getting fucked over some more.Be it V or those you are working with/against.Do both though as absolutely stellar and worth experiencing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 10/26/25 12:31:31 PM #7:	Shotgunnova posted... Really? I could've sworn they did a ~~fast-forward ending where everyone moves on and hates you~~. That must've been just one possible ending you can get. ~~If you get the cure you go into a coma for 2 years and most people move on. Some better than others, and others very badly.~~ ~~Seems Reed and the Government never cared to inform your loved ones after it turned out to not be so simple as they told V.~~ --- Undercover cat lover <cite>Funkydog posted [p:986844087] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>Shotgunnova posted... </cite><quote>Really? I could've sworn they did a fast-forward ending where everyone moves on and hates you. That must've been just one possible ending you can get.</quote>If you get the cure you go into a coma for 2 years and most people move on. Some better than others, and others very badly.Seems Reed and the Government never cared to inform your loved ones after it turned out to not be so simple as they told V.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shotgunnova 10/26/25 12:33:23 PM #8:	Ahh yes, that rings a bell. --- Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame <cite>Shotgunnova posted [p:986844104] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>Ahh yes, that rings a bell.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 10/26/25 12:34:18 PM #9:	There is no right answer, in classic Cyberpunk fashion. Just go with what you feel your V would do. --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif <cite>Ivynn posted [p:986844114] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>There is no right answer, in classic Cyberpunk fashion.Just go with what you feel your V would do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fan357 10/26/25 1:29:53 PM #10:	Its up to you really. I got the king of cups ending and I feel like that was the best case scenario. I know people feel different. --- Never forget where you came from. <cite>fan357 posted [p:986844578] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>Its up to you really. I got the king of cups ending and I feel like that was the best case scenario. I know people feel different. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkninja42 10/26/25 1:52:47 PM #11:	Shotgunnova posted... Really? I could've sworn they did a ~~fast-forward ending where everyone moves on and hates you~~. That must've been just one possible ending you can get. That's an option, but the game doesn't force you into it by completing PL. ~~Reed just becomes one of the options for you to call on the rooftop before the final mission~~ This topic does remind me that I need to go back and do the other route that I didn't choose --- I'm far from high end, I just know what suits me. <cite>Darkninja42 posted [p:986844796] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>Shotgunnova posted... </cite><quote>Really? I could've sworn they did a fast-forward ending where everyone moves on and hates you. That must've been just one possible ending you can get.</quote>That's an option, but the game doesn't force you into it by completing PL. Reed just becomes one of the options for you to call on the rooftop before the final missionThis topic does remind me that I need to go back and do the other route that I didn't choose</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 10/28/25 4:46:16 AM #12:	maybe im way too overthinking it, so far this is the toughest choice in the game, im basically stunlocked right now -_- https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/7b4052c0.jpg I almost wanna answer option 2 but damn <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:986862137] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>maybe im way too overthinking it, so far this is the toughest choice in the game, im basically stunlocked right now -_-https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/7/7b4052c0.jpgI almost wanna answer option 2 but damn </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TetsuoS2 10/28/25 4:48:10 AM #13:	Asking other people arguably ruins it, do what your gut tells you, you can always come back for the other options later. --- the local octopus( ) <cite>TetsuoS2 posted [p:986862142] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>Asking other people arguably ruins it, do what your gut tells you, you can always come back for the other options later.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 10/28/25 5:00:07 AM #14:	Tag for when TC makes the choice. PL did such a better job of making choices tough. Not just in the main storyline, the gigs too. The only time I actually set the controller down and thought about something in this game for an extended period was the gig with the ~~athlete training school~~. --- https://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif https://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif https://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:986862168] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>Tag for when TC makes the choice.PL did such a better job of making choices tough. Not just in the main storyline, the gigs too. The only time I actually set the controller down and thought about something in this game for an extended period was the gig with the athlete training school.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
boxoto 10/28/25 5:03:57 AM #15:	^ same. --- Don't you agree, Zach? https://giphy.com/gifs/4A7l8fUxbmHjOwwn0x <cite>boxoto posted [p:986862182] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>^ same. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kim_Seong-a 10/28/25 5:07:38 AM #16:	I was team Songbird all the way, but there's arguably no "right" or "wrong" path --- Lusa Cfaad Taydr <cite>Kim_Seong-a posted [p:986862199] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>I was team Songbird all the way, but there's arguably no "right" or "wrong" path</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 10/28/25 5:30:26 AM #17:	I ended up picking option 2. I guess the type of V I am playing is one that is cynical but not heartless. If the one thing songbird says that isn't a lie is that she wants freedom, then V would want to help her out. Wants to be a shoulder other people can lean on. But I guess there will be holy hell to pay if she's lying about the cure or something else of significance and making V waste some of the last days of her life on a wild goose chase <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:986862253] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>I ended up picking option 2. I guess the type of V I am playing is one that is cynical but not heartless. If the one thing songbird says that isn't a lie is that she wants freedom, then V would want to help her out. Wants to be a shoulder other people can lean on.But I guess there will be holy hell to pay if she's lying about the cure or something else of significance and making V waste some of the last days of her life on a wild goose chase</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 10/28/25 6:16:55 AM #18:	Rika_Furude posted... making V waste some of the last days of her life smh an inferior fem V enjoyer smh --- https://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif https://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif https://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:986862408] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted... </cite><quote>making V waste some of the last days of her life</quote>smh an inferior fem V enjoyer smh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 10/28/25 10:08:12 AM #19:	The whole thing with 2077 is that all of the options suck for different reasons and there's no real "right" choice. You either screw yourself over or you screw someone else over, and even if your V is completely selfish, you still have to pay such a heavy cost to get what you want that it may not even be worth it. --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:986863608] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>The whole thing with 2077 is that all of the options suck for different reasons and there's no real "right" choice. You either screw yourself over or you screw someone else over, and even if your V is completely selfish, you still have to pay such a heavy cost to get what you want that it may not even be worth it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pitbuller_26 10/28/25 10:20:22 AM #20:	I was with Songbird until a certain thing in her ending path hit loud like a tire screech. ~~When she said that only 1 person can be cured and essentially played in my face while we had to kill NUSA soldiers while messing with the Blackwall. I dialed up Reed WITH EXTREME QUICKNESS.~~ <cite>Pitbuller_26 posted [p:986863692] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>I was with Songbird until a certain thing in her ending path hit loud like a tire screech.When she said that only 1 person can be cured and essentially played in my face while we had to kill NUSA soldiers while messing with the Blackwall. I dialed up Reed WITH EXTREME QUICKNESS. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dancing_cactuar 10/28/25 11:03:02 AM #21:	Imagine lying to the equivalent of a terminally ill cancer patient telling them they can cure their cancer if they do all sorts of insane shit, and then pulling the rug under them saying that it's one use and they were going to use it for themselves. Fuck Songbird, dialing up Idris Elba as we speak. --- PS5s have liquid metal tech like the T-1000- AceCombatX All games, movies, albums, and books are fads- Darkfire12 <cite>dancing_cactuar posted [p:986864070] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>Imagine lying to the equivalent of a terminally ill cancer patient telling them they can cure their cancer if they do all sorts of insane shit, and then pulling the rug under them saying that it's one use and they were going to use it for themselves. Fuck Songbird, dialing up Idris Elba as we speak.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 10/28/25 11:09:12 AM #22:	Here's an idea: Let's not have discussions about the ending in the dude's first playthrough topic. Let's definitely not have those discussions completely unspoiler-tagged. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:986864122] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>Here's an idea:Let's not have discussions about the ending in the dude's first playthrough topic.Let's definitely not have those discussions completely unspoiler-tagged.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dancing_cactuar 10/28/25 11:11:56 AM #23:	DrizztLink posted... Here's an idea: Let's not have discussions about the ending in the dude's first playthrough topic. Let's definitely not have those discussions completely unspoiler-tagged. You got it king, thought OP wrapped shit up since the choice was made 5 hours ago. --- PS5s have liquid metal tech like the T-1000- AceCombatX All games, movies, albums, and books are fads- Darkfire12 <cite>dancing_cactuar posted [p:986864154] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>DrizztLink posted... </cite><quote>Here's an idea:Let's not have discussions about the ending in the dude's first playthrough topic.Let's definitely not have those discussions completely unspoiler-tagged.</quote>You got it king, thought OP wrapped shit up since the choice was made 5 hours ago.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 10/30/25 8:55:00 AM #24:	alright, finished phantom liberty. what a phenomenal DLC. 10/10 i ended up trusting songbird the whole way through and sending her to the moon. i know she was using you and lying from the start right up until the very end... but she did seem to grow as a person and regret her choices. regret doesnt change what shes done... but i would still feel horrible handing her back to NUSA. in the end all she wanted was freedom. i did try to convince Reed and try to get him to stand down until the very end. i do appreciate that hes far more upfront and honest, he does seem to have his own moral compass, ultimately he was just a NUSA dog until the end though. However, something about the deal he offered at the end seemed to ring false... he said "the situation has changed" but it just seemed like a lie. were they really just gonna cure V and let her walk away from that, with everything she did and what she knows? anyway, one day im definitely gonna replay cyberpunk and when I do I'll do the reed path. for now I still need to finish the main story, then i'll need a break so I don't burn out on it in the second playthrough hopefully the main story pops off as much as phantom liberty did. the standoff with reed is gonna my one of my most memorable moments in gaming I think <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:986884323] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>alright, finished phantom liberty. what a phenomenal DLC. 10/10i ended up trusting songbird the whole way through and sending her to the moon. i know she was using you and lying from the start right up until the very end... but she did seem to grow as a person and regret her choices. regret doesnt change what shes done... but i would still feel horrible handing her back to NUSA. in the end all she wanted was freedom. i did try to convince Reed and try to get him to stand down until the very end. i do appreciate that hes far more upfront and honest, he does seem to have his own moral compass, ultimately he was just a NUSA dog until the end though. However, something about the deal he offered at the end seemed to ring false... he said "the situation has changed" but it just seemed like a lie. were they really just gonna cure V and let her walk away from that, with everything she did and what she knows? anyway, one day im definitely gonna replay cyberpunk and when I do I'll do the reed path. for now I still need to finish the main story, then i'll need a break so I don't burn out on it in the second playthroughhopefully the main story pops off as much as phantom liberty did. the standoff with reed is gonna my one of my most memorable moments in gaming I think</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jefffan 10/30/25 9:34:46 AM #25:	I personally hated the fact songbird lied the entire time. So she gets "betrayed." "Screw with me, I screw you worse." Is a classic Corpo V action imo. --- The Bill of Rights should be for everyone... except it isnt <cite>jefffan posted [p:986884590] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>I personally hated the fact songbird lied the entire time. So she gets "betrayed.""Screw with me, I screw you worse." Is a classic Corpo V action imo.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jefffan 10/30/25 9:38:03 AM #26:	Rika_Furude posted... alright, finished phantom liberty. what a phenomenal DLC. 10/10 i ended up trusting songbird the whole way through and sending her to the moon. i know she was using you and lying from the start right up until the very end... but she did seem to grow as a person and regret her choices. regret doesnt change what shes done... but i would still feel horrible handing her back to NUSA. in the end all she wanted was freedom. i did try to convince Reed and try to get him to stand down until the very end. i do appreciate that hes far more upfront and honest, he does seem to have his own moral compass, ultimately he was just a NUSA dog until the end though. However, something about the deal he offered at the end seemed to ring false... he said "the situation has changed" but it just seemed like a lie. were they really just gonna cure V and let her walk away from that, with everything she did and what she knows? anyway, one day im definitely gonna replay cyberpunk and when I do I'll do the reed path. for now I still need to finish the main story, then i'll need a break so I don't burn out on it in the second playthrough hopefully the main story pops off as much as phantom liberty did. the standoff with reed is gonna my one of my most memorable moments in gaming I think There is no way Songbird regrets her choices. She's just happy she convinced a desperate enough mark to get her way. Imo. It is a great DLC though. There are no right answers for any side quest in it. --- The Bill of Rights should be for everyone... except it isnt <cite>jefffan posted [p:986884619] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted... </cite><quote>alright, finished phantom liberty. what a phenomenal DLC. 10/10i ended up trusting songbird the whole way through and sending her to the moon. i know she was using you and lying from the start right up until the very end... but she did seem to grow as a person and regret her choices. regret doesnt change what shes done... but i would still feel horrible handing her back to NUSA. in the end all she wanted was freedom. i did try to convince Reed and try to get him to stand down until the very end. i do appreciate that hes far more upfront and honest, he does seem to have his own moral compass, ultimately he was just a NUSA dog until the end though. However, something about the deal he offered at the end seemed to ring false... he said "the situation has changed" but it just seemed like a lie. were they really just gonna cure V and let her walk away from that, with everything she did and what she knows? anyway, one day im definitely gonna replay cyberpunk and when I do I'll do the reed path. for now I still need to finish the main story, then i'll need a break so I don't burn out on it in the second playthroughhopefully the main story pops off as much as phantom liberty did. the standoff with reed is gonna my one of my most memorable moments in gaming I think</quote>There is no way Songbird regrets her choices. She's just happy she convinced a desperate enough mark to get her way. Imo.It is a great DLC though. There are no right answers for any side quest in it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
reincarnator07 10/30/25 12:48:45 PM #27:	jefffan posted... There is no way Songbird regrets her choices. She's just happy she convinced a desperate enough mark to get her way. Imo. It is a great DLC though. There are no right answers for any side quest in it. I think she regrets screwing you over, but not so much that she wouldn't do it all over again to save herself. I think you are number 2 in her world, it's just that she will always be number 1. However, that's Night City for you. Either you take advantage of others to accomplish your goals, or you be the one taken advantage of. --- Fan of metal? Don't mind covers? Check out my youtube and give me some feedback http://www.youtube.com/sircaballero <cite>reincarnator07 posted [p:986886342] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>jefffan posted... </cite><quote>There is no way Songbird regrets her choices. She's just happy she convinced a desperate enough mark to get her way. Imo.It is a great DLC though. There are no right answers for any side quest in it.</quote>I think she regrets screwing you over, but not so much that she wouldn't do it all over again to save herself. I think you are number 2 in her world, it's just that she will always be number 1. However, that's Night City for you. Either you take advantage of others to accomplish your goals, or you be the one taken advantage of.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 10/30/25 1:03:42 PM #28:	Imo, Songbird clearly does regret using you even if she would do it again every time. It was her only chance of freedom and there was nothing to gain and everything to lose by confessing the truth. If she truly had no regrets, then why confess when it only put her in danger and had a high chance of her permanently losing her last shot at escaping? --- Undercover cat lover <cite>Funkydog posted [p:986886530] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>Imo, Songbird clearly does regret using you even if she would do it again every time.It was her only chance of freedom and there was nothing to gain and everything to lose by confessing the truth. If she truly had no regrets, then why confess when it only put her in danger and had a high chance of her permanently losing her last shot at escaping?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kim_Seong-a 10/30/25 7:39:57 PM #29:	It's hard for me to hold it against Songbird when the whole operation was sketchy from the start. Some person hacks your brain and tells you to come save the president and they'll cure your condition just screams red flags. I may be desperate for a cure, but I ain't a gonk. I take that mission partly for the hope of a cure, but mostly for the love of the game. >_> --- Lusa Cfaad Taydr <cite>Kim_Seong-a posted [p:986890034] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>It's hard for me to hold it against Songbird when the whole operation was sketchy from the start. Some person hacks your brain and tells you to come save the president and they'll cure your condition just screams red flags.I may be desperate for a cure, but I ain't a gonk. I take that mission partly for the hope of a cure, but mostly for the love of the game. >_></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 10/31/25 5:50:06 AM #30:	reincarnator07 posted... I think she regrets screwing you over, but not so much that she wouldn't do it all over again to save herself. I think you are number 2 in her world, it's just that she will always be number 1. However, that's Night City for you. Either you take advantage of others to accomplish your goals, or you be the one taken advantage of. Yeah basically the way I interpret her story was, she was basically a slave and used by everybody around her, for pretty much her entire life there wasn't a single person she could ever trust, and by the time she's crash landed in Dogtown she's desperate to experience freedom at any cost and would rather die than go back to NUSA. Then throughout the operation, she comes to realize that V might be the first person she's ever met that she might be able to trust. And then she opens up her heart to you a little. And by the time she's dying and in that train on the way to the ship, that's when her regret has grown so much that she has to vocalize it otherwise her guilty conscious would be too heavy. But because of her fear of NUSA I don't think she would have ever made any other choices if she could choose again. Kim_Seong-a posted... It's hard for me to hold it against Songbird when the whole operation was sketchy from the start. Some person hacks your brain and tells you to come save the president and they'll cure your condition just screams red flags. It does but at that stage in the game I feel like V is so desperate for a cure that any Hail Mary option is up for consideration. And then to Songbirds credit, the president does actually crash down in Dogtown.and if anyone can cure V it would be the top doctors from a large nation. <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:986893447] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>reincarnator07 posted... </cite><quote>I think she regrets screwing you over, but not so much that she wouldn't do it all over again to save herself. I think you are number 2 in her world, it's just that she will always be number 1. However, that's Night City for you. Either you take advantage of others to accomplish your goals, or you be the one taken advantage of.</quote>Yeah basically the way I interpret her story was, she was basically a slave and used by everybody around her, for pretty much her entire life there wasn't a single person she could ever trust, and by the time she's crash landed in Dogtown she's desperate to experience freedom at any cost and would rather die than go back to NUSA. Then throughout the operation, she comes to realize that V might be the first person she's ever met that she might be able to trust. And then she opens up her heart to you a little. And by the time she's dying and in that train on the way to the ship, that's when her regret has grown so much that she has to vocalize it otherwise her guilty conscious would be too heavy. But because of her fear of NUSA I don't think she would have ever made any other choices if she could choose again.Kim_Seong-a posted... </cite><quote>It's hard for me to hold it against Songbird when the whole operation was sketchy from the start. Some person hacks your brain and tells you to come save the president and they'll cure your condition just screams red flags.</quote>It does but at that stage in the game I feel like V is so desperate for a cure that any Hail Mary option is up for consideration. And then to Songbirds credit, the president does actually crash down in Dogtown.and if anyone can cure V it would be the top doctors from a large nation. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 10/31/25 5:55:17 AM #31:	Huh. I went Reed's route and I'm now learning that you ironically don't get all of Songbird's backstory if you pick her. --- https://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif https://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif https://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:986893471] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>Huh.I went Reed's route and I'm now learning that you ironically don't get all of Songbird's backstory if you pick her.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
fan357 10/31/25 6:55:23 AM #32:	I felt like letting her die was the best choice. Theres no guarantee that her going to space will end well for her. When she dies at least get suffering ends. You get to screw over the president which is nice. And Reed even seems to agree you made a good call. --- Never forget where you came from. <cite>fan357 posted [p:986893682] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>I felt like letting her die was the best choice. Theres no guarantee that her going to space will end well for her. When she dies at least get suffering ends. You get to screw over the president which is nice. And Reed even seems to agree you made a good call. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
reincarnator07 10/31/25 8:14:49 AM #33:	By the way, the fact that we can have such discussions about these characters shows just how much of a step up PL was, as well as the fact that they really seemed to have nailed the "no good guys" aspect of the setting. --- Fan of metal? Don't mind covers? Check out my youtube and give me some feedback http://www.youtube.com/sircaballero <cite>reincarnator07 posted [p:986894027] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>By the way, the fact that we can have such discussions about these characters shows just how much of a step up PL was, as well as the fact that they really seemed to have nailed the "no good guys" aspect of the setting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 10/31/25 8:46:42 AM #34:	I haven't finished the main story yet, is it really nowhere near as good as PL? :/ I guess even if the choices are easier to make so long as it's well written and compelling with an explosive finale Ill be happy. I'm just cleaning up some sidequests, i think in the main story I was prepping with that arasaka guy to go raid some parade that was about to happen or something <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:986894174] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>I haven't finished the main story yet, is it really nowhere near as good as PL? :/I guess even if the choices are easier to make so long as it's well written and compelling with an explosive finale Ill be happy. I'm just cleaning up some sidequests, i think in the main story I was prepping with that arasaka guy to go raid some parade that was about to happen or something </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
reincarnator07 10/31/25 9:00:23 AM #35:	Rika_Furude posted... I haven't finished the main story yet, is it really nowhere near as good as PL? :/ I guess even if the choices are easier to make so long as it's well written and compelling with an explosive finale Ill be happy. I'm just cleaning up some sidequests, i think in the main story I was prepping with that arasaka guy to go raid some parade that was about to happen or something I don't think the main story is bad in isolation, but I do think a lot of the moral greyness is missing from much of it, although maybe it's just a starker comparison because of how good PL is. There was one notorious encounter in 1.0 that I believe was significantly improved. As a conclusion to the game though, I had no complaints. There's defo some great references if you've watched Edgerunners too, which I'd strongly recommend purely because it's a fantastic watch. I believe it's best experienced blind. Although PL is amazing, even the base game is well above average in its current state. --- Fan of metal? Don't mind covers? Check out my youtube and give me some feedback http://www.youtube.com/sircaballero <cite>reincarnator07 posted [p:986894267] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted... </cite><quote>I haven't finished the main story yet, is it really nowhere near as good as PL? :/I guess even if the choices are easier to make so long as it's well written and compelling with an explosive finale Ill be happy. I'm just cleaning up some sidequests, i think in the main story I was prepping with that arasaka guy to go raid some parade that was about to happen or something</quote>I don't think the main story is bad in isolation, but I do think a lot of the moral greyness is missing from much of it, although maybe it's just a starker comparison because of how good PL is. There was one notorious encounter in 1.0 that I believe was significantly improved. As a conclusion to the game though, I had no complaints. There's defo some great references if you've watched Edgerunners too, which I'd strongly recommend purely because it's a fantastic watch.I believe it's best experienced blind. Although PL is amazing, even the base game is well above average in its current state.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 10/31/25 9:10:06 AM #36:	reincarnator07 posted... There's defo some great references if you've watched Edgerunners too, which I'd strongly recommend purely because it's a fantastic watch. I've got this on my list but I wanted to finish the game first. I heard they are sort of separate but I also heard that Edgerunners is better after the game. reincarnator07 posted... I believe it's best experienced blind. Although PL is amazing, even the base game is well above average in its current state. I was stunlocked choosing between Reed and Songbird for a while, I did end up googling to see other peoples rational so I sort of didn't do it completely blind. I'm mostly blind for the rest of the game though, I did see one quote from I presume Johnny on a youtube comment which if I hear ingame its gonna fuck me up. <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:986894320] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>reincarnator07 posted... </cite><quote>There's defo some great references if you've watched Edgerunners too, which I'd strongly recommend purely because it's a fantastic watch.</quote>I've got this on my list but I wanted to finish the game first. I heard they are sort of separate but I also heard that Edgerunners is better after the game.reincarnator07 posted... </cite><quote>I believe it's best experienced blind. Although PL is amazing, even the base game is well above average in its current state.</quote>I was stunlocked choosing between Reed and Songbird for a while, I did end up googling to see other peoples rational so I sort of didn't do it completely blind. I'm mostly blind for the rest of the game though, I did see one quote from I presume Johnny on a youtube comment which if I hear ingame its gonna fuck me up. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 10/31/25 9:22:08 AM #37:	pegusus123456 posted... smh an inferior fem V enjoyer smh Fem V > Man V That voice! --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif <cite>Ivynn posted [p:986894405] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>pegusus123456 posted... </cite><quote>smh an inferior fem V enjoyer smh</quote>Fem V > Man VThat voice!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
reincarnator07 10/31/25 11:48:02 AM #38:	Rika_Furude posted... I've got this on my list but I wanted to finish the game first. I heard they are sort of separate but I also heard that Edgerunners is better after the game. I'd honestly say the opposite, that Edgerunners is better before the main game. Ultimately it takes place before 2077 and very few characters are shared between the two, so they can absolutely be enjoyed separate from each other. Aside from stuff that is in 2077 and therefore after the events of Edgerunners, neither spoils the other either. I was stunlocked choosing between Reed and Songbird for a while, I did end up googling to see other peoples rational so I sort of didn't do it completely blind. I'm mostly blind for the rest of the game though, I did see one quote from I presume Johnny on a youtube comment which if I hear ingame its gonna fuck me up. On my first run, I went with So Mi too. Neither me nor my V felt that Reed and Myers had been honest with us even at this point in the story. It still felt like they were hiding stuff even as So Mi laid ~~nearly~~ everything on the table. Knowing both paths I still think it's the choice that I'd make. I don't think there's a single good ending though, just different prices paid in typical Cyberpunk fashion. --- Fan of metal? Don't mind covers? Check out my youtube and give me some feedback http://www.youtube.com/sircaballero <cite>reincarnator07 posted [p:986895557] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted... </cite><quote>I've got this on my list but I wanted to finish the game first. I heard they are sort of separate but I also heard that Edgerunners is better after the game.</quote>I'd honestly say the opposite, that Edgerunners is better before the main game. Ultimately it takes place before 2077 and very few characters are shared between the two, so they can absolutely be enjoyed separate from each other. Aside from stuff that is in 2077 and therefore after the events of Edgerunners, neither spoils the other either.<quote>I was stunlocked choosing between Reed and Songbird for a while, I did end up googling to see other peoples rational so I sort of didn't do it completely blind. I'm mostly blind for the rest of the game though, I did see one quote from I presume Johnny on a youtube comment which if I hear ingame its gonna fuck me up.</quote>On my first run, I went with So Mi too. Neither me nor my V felt that Reed and Myers had been honest with us even at this point in the story. It still felt like they were hiding stuff even as So Mi laid nearly everything on the table. Knowing both paths I still think it's the choice that I'd make. I don't think there's a single good ending though, just different prices paid in typical Cyberpunk fashion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TetsuoS2 10/31/25 9:26:19 PM #39:	The existence of the DLC makes one of the main game endings a happy one, arguably, but I'm sure you're talking about how the DLC has none. --- the local octopus( ) <cite>TetsuoS2 posted [p:986900861] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>The existence of the DLC makes one of the main game endings a happy one, arguably, but I'm sure you're talking about how the DLC has none.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 10/31/25 9:32:42 PM #40:	The game actually spoiled Edgerunners for me lol. It's a little detail in one area, but I explored that area and the spoiler is really obvious if you know who the character is. --- https://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif https://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif https://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:986900919] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>The game actually spoiled Edgerunners for me lol.It's a little detail in one area, but I explored that area and the spoiler is really obvious if you know who the character is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dancing_cactuar 11/01/25 1:06:10 AM #41:	TetsuoS2 posted... The existence of the DLC makes one of the main game endings a happy one, arguably, but I'm sure you're talking about how the DLC has none. It's bittersweet really. Would you like to live your life but at the cost of all your friends and basically being forced to work a desk job at Langley, or to live a life that's half as long but twice as bright, and in the case of the Star ending, with the remote possibility of aid? The main thing it cements is that The Devil is the shittiest ending, not only do you surrender to the corpos there, they can't even fucking get it done right. At least the NUSA fixed your brain even if it's basically shot full of holes. --- PS5s have liquid metal tech like the T-1000- AceCombatX All games, movies, albums, and books are fads- Darkfire12 <cite>dancing_cactuar posted [p:986902356] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>TetsuoS2 posted... </cite><quote>The existence of the DLC makes one of the main game endings a happy one, arguably, but I'm sure you're talking about how the DLC has none.</quote>It's bittersweet really. Would you like to live your life but at the cost of all your friends and basically being forced to work a desk job at Langley, or to live a life that's half as long but twice as bright, and in the case of the Star ending, with the remote possibility of aid? The main thing it cements is that The Devil is the shittiest ending, not only do you surrender to the corpos there, they can't even fucking get it done right. At least the NUSA fixed your brain even if it's basically shot full of holes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TetsuoS2 11/01/25 1:24:03 AM #42:	dancing_cactuar posted... It's bittersweet really. Would you like to live your life but at the cost of all your friends and basically being forced to work a desk job at Langley, or to live a life that's half as long but twice as bright, and in the case of the Star ending, with the remote possibility of aid? The main thing it cements is that The Devil is the shittiest ending, not only do you surrender to the corpos there, they can't even fucking get it done right. At least the NUSA fixed your brain even if it's basically shot full of holes. Before the DLC you end up thinking that there really is no cure, since not even Arasaka can do anything, but the DLC makes The Sun ending more hopeful than just being a living out the last of your days happy. --- the local octopus( ) <cite>TetsuoS2 posted [p:986902430] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>dancing_cactuar posted... </cite><quote>It's bittersweet really. Would you like to live your life but at the cost of all your friends and basically being forced to work a desk job at Langley, or to live a life that's half as long but twice as bright, and in the case of the Star ending, with the remote possibility of aid? The main thing it cements is that The Devil is the shittiest ending, not only do you surrender to the corpos there, they can't even fucking get it done right. At least the NUSA fixed your brain even if it's basically shot full of holes.</quote>Before the DLC you end up thinking that there really is no cure, since not even Arasaka can do anything, but the DLC makes The Sun ending more hopeful than just being a living out the last of your days happy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Srk700 11/01/25 5:57:39 AM #43:	Best ending imo is the one where you side with Reed then agree with So Mi to let her die. My reasoning being that it the other endings have some pretty big negatives that I dont feel comfortable letting come to pass. Giving her back to Myers means giving the NUSA, and by extension Militech given their extremely close ties, access to the Blackwall tech inside So Mi that they intend to weaponize. Helping her get to the moon means shes being put in the hands of another extremely shady corporation where its unknown if they also have nefarious intentions for So Mi and the tech inside her. This ending also has its negatives (like Alexs death), but I feel like those are less harmful than giving extremely shady mega-corps access to extremely dangerous tech. <cite>Srk700 posted [p:986903237] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>Best ending imo is the one where you side with Reed then agree with So Mi to let her die. My reasoning being that it the other endings have some pretty big negatives that I dont feel comfortable letting come to pass. Giving her back to Myers means giving the NUSA, and by extension Militech given their extremely close ties, access to the Blackwall tech inside So Mi that they intend to weaponize. Helping her get to the moon means shes being put in the hands of another extremely shady corporation where its unknown if they also have nefarious intentions for So Mi and the tech inside her. This ending also has its negatives (like Alexs death), but I feel like those are less harmful than giving extremely shady mega-corps access to extremely dangerous tech. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pegusus123456 11/01/25 6:03:46 AM #44:	Probably shouldn't be posting unmarked spoilers about the other ending given TC said he wanted to go through the other option at some point --- https://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif https://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif https://i.imgur.com/Er6TT.gif So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur <cite>pegusus123456 posted [p:986903263] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>Probably shouldn't be posting unmarked spoilers about the other ending given TC said he wanted to go through the other option at some point</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
reincarnator07 11/01/25 6:04:47 AM #45:	TetsuoS2 posted... The existence of the DLC makes one of the main game endings a happy one, arguably, but I'm sure you're talking about how the DLC has none. I was indeed talking about the DLC having none, but I'd also disagree that the one you're referring to is a happy ending. That said, I'd rather save that discussion for after OP has beat the game. --- Fan of metal? Don't mind covers? Check out my youtube and give me some feedback http://www.youtube.com/sircaballero <cite>reincarnator07 posted [p:986903270] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>TetsuoS2 posted... </cite><quote>The existence of the DLC makes one of the main game endings a happy one, arguably, but I'm sure you're talking about how the DLC has none.</quote>I was indeed talking about the DLC having none, but I'd also disagree that the one you're referring to is a happy ending. That said, I'd rather save that discussion for after OP has beat the game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 11/01/25 6:42:46 AM #46:	pegusus123456 posted... Probably shouldn't be posting unmarked spoilers about the other ending given TC said he wanted to go through the other option at some point Eh, I read spoilers of alternate endings after I get my ending in games all the time since future playthroughs aren't always guaranteed. Hell, I stopped my second Cyberpunk run towards the end myself (I'll finish it someday!) --- http://i.imgur.com/vDci4hD.gif <cite>Ivynn posted [p:986903405] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>pegusus123456 posted... </cite><quote>Probably shouldn't be posting unmarked spoilers about the other ending given TC said he wanted to go through the other option at some point</quote>Eh, I read spoilers of alternate endings after I get my ending in games all the time since future playthroughs aren't always guaranteed. Hell, I stopped my second Cyberpunk run towards the end myself (I'll finish it someday!)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
reincarnator07 11/01/25 9:16:42 AM #47:	Ivynn posted... Eh, I read spoilers of alternate endings after I get my ending in games all the time since future playthroughs aren't always guaranteed. Hell, I stopped my second Cyberpunk run towards the end myself (I'll finish it someday!) Sure, but you are not TC. --- Fan of metal? Don't mind covers? Check out my youtube and give me some feedback http://www.youtube.com/sircaballero <cite>reincarnator07 posted [p:986903993] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>Ivynn posted... </cite><quote>Eh, I read spoilers of alternate endings after I get my ending in games all the time since future playthroughs aren't always guaranteed. Hell, I stopped my second Cyberpunk run towards the end myself (I'll finish it someday!)</quote>Sure, but you are not TC.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Srk700 11/01/25 1:26:42 PM #48:	pegusus123456 posted... Probably shouldn't be posting unmarked spoilers about the other ending given TC said he wanted to go through the other option at some point TC did say that he already looked up peoples rationales for their ending choices, so I assume TC know about the 4 different endings. Ill delete my post just in case he was just referring to the initial decision. Rika_Furude posted... I was stunlocked choosing between Reed and Songbird for a while, I did end up googling to see other peoples rational so I sort of didn't do it completely blind. I'm mostly blind for the rest of the game though, I did see one quote from I presume Johnny on a youtube comment which if I hear ingame its gonna fuck me up. <cite>Srk700 posted [p:986905718] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>pegusus123456 posted... </cite><quote>Probably shouldn't be posting unmarked spoilers about the other ending given TC said he wanted to go through the other option at some point</quote>TC did say that he already looked up peoples rationales for their ending choices, so I assume TC know about the 4 different endings. Ill delete my post just in case he was just referring to the initial decision.Rika_Furude posted... </cite><quote>I was stunlocked choosing between Reed and Songbird for a while, I did end up googling to see other peoples rational so I sort of didn't do it completely blind. I'm mostly blind for the rest of the game though, I did see one quote from I presume Johnny on a youtube comment which if I hear ingame its gonna fuck me up.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 11/02/25 1:12:36 AM #49:	alright done all the side quests, all 4 of romance characters side quests. ~~the one with the child abduction farm was particularly fucked~~ no more side quests left, only got the point of no return with hanako at embers now. and a bunch of gigs but eh <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:986912460] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>alright done all the side quests, all 4 of romance characters side quests. the one with the child abduction farm was particularly fuckedno more side quests left, only got the point of no return with hanako at embers now. and a bunch of gigs but eh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shotgunnova 11/02/25 1:16:24 AM #50:	I always forget about the ~~abduction farm~~ since it's a River quest, IIRC, and he's just so...skippable. --- Take me down from the ridge where the summer ends And watch the city spread out just like a jet's flame <cite>Shotgunnova posted [p:986912482] in Phantom Li... [t:81060815]...</cite> <quote>I always forget about the abduction farm since it's a River quest, IIRC, and he's just so...skippable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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