Pathfinder was built off of D&D 3.5 ruleset. It's a more complex system compared to D&D 5e which is what BG3 was built off of.^
You talking about the books or the video games? Because aside from the D20 system they have almost nothing in common anymore.Im curious about both in general but if I had to pick - the video games. Like if Im gonna start up WotR what particularly makes it different/complex compared to the rules in BG3
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Then there is Pathfinder 2 which is more akin to 4th edition (or so I've heard... I've never played it) which is more pulpy than 5th.
I don't believe PF2 is based on D&D 4e. 4e was never released in srd for others to use.PF2 absolutely takes a lot of cues from 4e and just makes them work.
I don't believe PF2 is based on D&D 4e. 4e was never released in srd for others to use.I meant that the style was based on 4e. You are correct that it was not the same as how the first one was just wholesale 3.5.
I don't believe PF2 is based on D&D 4e. 4e was never released in srd for others to use.4e was released but under a more restricted license. The only product as far as I'm aware that ever made it to market under the 4e license is a game called Amethyst.
Are Pathfinder campaigns like DnD campaigns? Is it easy to start one like it is with DnD? I just played my first DnD campaign over the weekend so Im curiousYes. Outside of the specifics of the rules you can play any campaign in either ruleset if you adjust for the differences.
Are Pathfinder campaigns like DnD campaigns? Is it easy to start one like it is with DnD? I just played my first DnD campaign over the weekend so Im curious
Are Pathfinder campaigns like DnD campaigns? Is it easy to start one like it is with DnD? I just played my first DnD campaign over the weekend so Im curiousPathfinder is definitely not a beginner friendly game. The huge downside of the 3.x systems that nobody ever likes to talk about is that it's way too easy to make a character that's completely useless. It was made by and for people who like to minmax the shit out of everything.
Pathfinder is definitely not a beginner friendly game. The huge downside of the 3.x systems that nobody ever likes to talk about is that it's way too easy to make a character that's completely useless. It was made by and for people who like to minmax the shit out of everything.
Pathfinder was originally built by people who didn't like the more streamlined direction that d&d was going in.Pathfinder 1e was actually a direct response to Wizards not using the OGL for 4e and instead using the far more restrictive GSL.
Pathfinder 1e was actually a direct response to Wizards not using the OGL for 4e and instead using the far more restrictive GSL.
Sure, but 4E being 4E was also a significant driver for them putting in the effort.No, 4e being 4e was what motivated players to buy Pathfinder instead.
Pathfinder 1e was actually a direct response to Wizards not using the OGL for 4e and instead using the far more restrictive GSL.
I'm DMing a game of PF2e right now. Biggest differences off the bat are going to be the action economy is just 3 actions instead of move, standard, bonus. Most things don't have an attack of opportunity so it's strategically beneficial to move. If you roll 10 over your target it's a critical hit, if you roll 10 under it's a critical fail. This makes you want to "debuff" a target with things like off-guard and demoralized because every +1 raises your odds of a crit. There's a lot more numbers and a lot more things to do, but the numbers are tighter than DND so encounter building is way easier. You get upgrades and abilities at every level and pretty much every class is good and playable with very few exceptions.Ooh, now this is interesting. I especially like that you can get upgrades and abilities at every level.
We talking Kingmaker/Path of the Righteous?Games and tabletop tbh but more so games yeah
Because it's gonna get messy.
If we're including subclasses, you've got more classes than BG3 before you even get out of the A's.
Other way around. Pathfinder came first. WotC was mad that they couldn't monetize it so they made the 4e license more restrictive.D&D 4e's core rulebook released in June of 2008.
Games and tabletop tbh but more so games yeahI absolutely recommend Wrath of the Righteous.
Ooh, now this is interesting. I especially like that you can get upgrades and abilities at every level.Yeah, I love that about P2e. Everybody gets at least one new feat at every level, so you really get a feel that your character is constantly growing and improving unlike 5e where sometimes a level just comes with one more spell slot or slight improvement/extra use to a feature you already had.
Now, I'm not the best with calendars, but I'm pretty sure 4e existed a full year before Pathfinder released.
I absolutely recommend Wrath of the Righteous.Yeah Im downloading wrath of the righteous as we speak. If you have any tips Id love to hear them
There's a lot of mechanics to learn but the Mythic path stuff opens up so many shenanigans.
Also I'd wanted to play a Lich for years.
Before the 1e core Pathfinder was a thing you tacked onto D&D 3.5.Oh neat
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pathfinder_(periodicals)#
This was a full year before 4e.
Yeah Im downloading wrath of the righteous as we speak. If you have any tips Id love to hear themDon't get too overwhelmed.
Ooh, now this is interesting. I especially like that you can get upgrades and abilities at every level.WotR is NOT PF2e, so progression is a little different.
Anyone else have any opinions on Pathfinder?