Will Trump fully abandon Ukraine and Palestine?

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GrandConjuraton
07/19/2024
11:46 AM
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Absolutely.
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ellis123
07/19/2024
11:47 AM
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What would cause him to do anything other than what he did with Serbia?
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CoyoteTheGreat
07/19/2024
11:48 AM
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America can't really abandon Palestine because we've been outright helping in the genocide and providing cover for Israel in the UN already.

But yes, it is 100% the Republican position to give Ukraine to Putin. Donald Trump's reelection will mean another genocide succeeding.
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theAteam
07/19/2024
11:49 AM
#5
If by "abandon" you mean "provide assistance to the invading side" then yes.
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Zikten
07/19/2024
11:51 AM
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CoyoteTheGreat posted...
America can't really abandon Palestine because we've been outright helping in the genocide and providing cover for Israel in the UN already.

But yes, it is 100% the Republican position to give Ukraine to Putin. Donald Trump's reelection will mean another genocide succeeding.


And then Putin will probably invade Poland
fire_bolt
07/19/2024
11:53 AM
#7
No, because he's not getting elected
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hmnut7
07/19/2024
11:53 AM
#8
CoyoteTheGreat posted...
But yes, it is 100% the Republican position to give Ukraine to Putin. Donald Trump's reelection will mean another genocide succeeding.
I mean sure it's bad that electing Trump will mean America will be contributing to genocides.

but Biden is old... so I don't think there is anything we can do.
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Kuuko
07/19/2024
11:53 AM
#9
Kinda weird it's not brought up more often that Trump literally blackmailed Zelensky unless Ukraine agreed to make up dirt to use against Biden. Maybe it's partly because that was pre-Ukrainian war where the average person had no idea who Zelensky was. And also it's partly the Trump thing where he did and does so many weird fucked up things that they kinda overwrite each other.
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GrandConjuraton
07/19/2024
11:54 AM
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fire_bolt posted...
No, because he's not getting elected
I hope you're right, but it's looking grim right now, :/
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PeteyParker
07/19/2024
11:57 AM
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He literally admitted he will let Israel "finish the job" at least during the debate. He will definitely abandon Ukraine as well because that's what his handler wants.
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Ricemills
07/19/2024
12:00 PM
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Abandon Palestine? That requires caring about them at the first place.
If you mean Trump will abandon Israel, then no.
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Ooooooranges
07/19/2024
12:09 PM
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You can't really abandon Palestine more than this country already has...
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fire_bolt
07/19/2024
12:23 PM
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GrandConjuraton posted...

I hope you're right, but it's looking grim right now, :/


It's really not. Mainstream media is pushing that narrative as hard as they can and it's largely not working. Every public controlled source of discourse (Twitter, Reddit, TikTok, etc) is absolutely dragging Trump's ass over the Epstein documents and Project 2025. Regular ass dudes are pretty overwhelmingly voting blue, it's just big money who are really supporting Trump (aside from his actual base ofc) and sleepless are buying what they're selling
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Srk700
07/19/2024
12:28 PM
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Abandon as in no longer provide aid for either of them? Absolutely

Abandon as in leave them alone completely? Nope, hes going to assist in Russias invasion of Ukraine and would launch the bombs at Palestine himself.
OmegaShinkai
07/19/2024
12:30 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
Not Poland. The Baltic states will be fucked though. Putin has spent at least a decade saying they have no right to exist independently of Russia.
The Baltic States are in NATO so despite the constant threats I doubt anything will happen.
Moldova on the other hand needs to worry because Transnistria is an exact copy of the same bullshit that Russia used as an excuse with Donetsk/Luhansk and South Ossetia. Russia's original plan was to take Odessa and then the entire Black Sea coast which would give them a strategic position to invade Moldova over land, but when their forces collapsed at Kherson that situation became impossible.
Foppe
07/19/2024
12:38 PM
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OmegaShinkai posted...
The Baltic States are in NATO so despite the constant threats I doubt anything will happen.
Moldova on the other hand needs to worry because Transnistria is an exact copy of the same bullshit that Russia used as an excuse with Donetsk/Luhansk and South Ossetia.
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Tyranthraxus
07/19/2024
12:46 PM
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He will abandon Ukraine but not Palestine. He will actively engage in purging it.
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creativerealms
07/19/2024
12:48 PM
#21
America has already abandoned Palestine so Trump won't change anything. Ukraine yeah they will be screwed over.
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Metal_Gear_Raxis
07/19/2024
01:07 PM
#22
ScazarMeltex posted...
I do think if Trump wins the election and the GOP get their way, Ukraine eventually falls and the countries of Europe will be left alone to deal with whatever Russia does next. Because Trump and the GOP are absolutely compromised and pretty openly Russian assets at this point.
Fortunately, by that point I doubt Russia will have much of an army left.
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CARRRNE_ASADA
07/19/2024
01:11 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
Not Poland. The Baltic states will be fucked though. Putin has spent at least a decade saying they have no right to exist independently of Russia.


Seems like theyre preemptively preparing for it...
https://apnews.com/article/baltics-russia-belarus-europe-electricity-transmission-a42f86ca20b7d878dc17c7cafed861bc
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DnDer
07/19/2024
01:19 PM
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Trump never supported Palestine in the first place. He can't abandon someone he'd happily genocide so his children can buy real estate covered in their bodies in the first place.
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The_Wheelman1
07/19/2024
01:28 PM
#25
Trump want China to invade Taiwan just so he can have an excuse to use nuclear weapons.
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Ulfar
07/19/2024
02:10 PM
#26
He would abandon all of Europe for Russia.
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