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Cole actually had 2 great moments tonight.

- Pushing Punk's accomplishments since winning the WWE Title and the historical length of his reign HARD
- Completely turning on Big Johnny once Vince fired him. Someone in the chat said that was Heenan-esque and they're totally right.

As opposed to Booker who tried to get over the idea that being punched in the body by Big Show is worse than being punched in the face.

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I definitely read it as a knowing nod to Punk.

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Let's just say that if Vince's vision for See No Evil was real, she's in for a long night!

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Oh and she kissed everyone good luck before the match. With increasing degrees of making-outedness.

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SmartMuffin posted...

Anyway I just got home, someone tell me what happened with AJ quick!

Sacrificed herself with an apron bump so that Punk could win, concerned Kane carried her off as she smiled at Punk in a "wink wink" sort of way.

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I think maybe the disparity comes from match ratings, for lack of a better term.

I get the impression you guys loved the title matches a ton more than I did. I thought they were both very good, the triple threat in particular exceeding expectations, but they fail to hold up to the best matches of Over the Limit, Wrestlemania, and especially Extreme Rules.

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I mean hell, just look at TNA last weekend.

Great undercard, lolsy ME. But every match except ONE had a level of gravitas to it. None of it except Kash vs. Hernandez was "oh crap gotta fill 3 hours here." And the result is an AWESOME show marred by only the mother of anticlimax (which is a significant flaw, don't get me wrong).

No Way Out by no means can be claimed to have ended in anti-climax, but it really really REALLY felt like a 2 hour show stretched to 3 in all the worst ways, and the 2 hour show that was actually there was good but not great.

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Which type of WCW-esque shows? They did the same sort of **** WWE is doing lately where they'll build 4-5 matches and throw Jerry Flynn vs. Finlay on there to round things out.

If every match on the WCW-esque show has a reason to exist on the PPV, then I'll take that.

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edwardsdv posted...

From: Jakyl25 | #348
Maybe if more of you guys paid for it you'd have a better assessment of its quality. <_<

WHC, WWE, IC, and regrettably the Main Event were the only things that belonged on PPV. The rest was an episode of SmackDown that they had you by the balls for because you paid for it.
Say what you will for the ME, they definitely NEVER wouldve done that on TV <_</

I know, that's why I said it actually belonged on PPV for as crappy as it was. It was at least given the build and the stakes of a PPV level match.

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Maybe if more of you guys paid for it you'd have a better assessment of its quality. <_<

WHC, WWE, IC, and regrettably the Main Event were the only things that belonged on PPV. The rest was an episode of SmackDown that they had you by the balls for because you paid for it.

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BTW I like how Ryback now is Top 7 on active PPV streaks

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I just really hated this PPV as a whole.

WWE Title triple threat was ***3/4
WHC was ***1/2
IC was **3/4

Nothing else topped **, and of those 3 only IC was superior to its counterpart from Over the Limit.

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Updated PPV streaks

CM Punk: 19 (Royal Rumble 2011)
Dolph Ziggler: 11 (Night of Champions 2011)
Cody Rhodes: 11 (Night of Champions 2011)
Daniel Bryan: 7 (TLC: Tables, Ladders, and Chairs 2011)
John Cena: 6 (Royal Rumble 2012)
Sheamus: 4 (Wrestlemania XXVIII)
Ryback: 3 (Extreme Rules 2012)
Layla: 3 (Extreme Rules 2012)

2 (Over the Limit 2012)
Tyson Kidd
Jimmy Uso
Jey Uso
Titus O'Neil
Darren Young
Christian
Beth Phoenix

1 (No Way Out 2012)
Santino Marella
Ricardo Rodriguez
Primo
Epico
Justin Gabriel
Hunico
Sin Cara
Kane
Dan Delaney
Rob Grymes
The Big Show

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Worst WWE PPV of the year thus far, and the worst once since Vengeance if you want to keep going back to October.

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I mean, Cena DROVE TO SMACKDOWN on his off day looking for a fight, to stop this monster hurting his friends!

And then at the PPV he's totally cool with running away picking up the W and leaving Show untouched.

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Well on one level it does show Cena learning from last time in that any chance to get rid of Johnny must be seized upon because it's for the greater good.

In a nutshell though, technically beating Show without actually BEATING him solves nothing this feud is based around.

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Big Show and Cena proved me wrong.

Sting vs. Roode was better. <___<

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Finishing up SD now.

Are we meant to believe that Cena was sitting around his house watching SD decked out in all of his merch, or are we meant to believe that he was SO DETERMINED to get there in time to confront Big Show that he stopped to put all his merch on before leaving the house?

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http://www.newsday.com/sports/glen-cove-native-curt-hawkins-back-in-long-island-with-wwe-1.3787546

Zack Ryder is officially so buried that Curt Hawkins returning to Long Island for a show is bigger news.

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Dirtsheets say that Amazing Red is backstage at No Way Out.

LOL if WWE noticed that TNA pretty much has to rebuild the X-Division so they decide to snatch up all the free agent lighter guys just to spite them.

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Then what are they paying a team of writers for? <_<

WWE, TNA, and ROH are the only companies in America that have people employed whose SOLE purpose is to write storylines and book matches, and with ROH it's only one guy. WWE and TNA have teams of full-time writers on staff! It's well documented how WWE storylines fly off the deep end, but what's the TNA team's excuse?

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I mean beyond that even.

If you're gonna book something like this you totally need to already know who the Final Four are and have a mathematically sound plot to get them there, and you ALSO need Plans B, C, and D in case of injuries.

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Well hopefully they know how the BFG Series will play out already!

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LOL like WWE books 2 months in advance

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I'm starting to think that the somewhat predicted "Bryan and AJ were aligned the whole time" swerve is actually going to be a Bryan master plan to intentionally drive her off the deep end and turn her into Dark AJ so that then all he has to do is snap his fingers and she'd come running back to him and screw over both Kane and Punk in the chaos.

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MrGreenonion posted...

Future Kofi is Bishop.

This was my original conception, yes. Sent back in time to stop the Age of CeNexus.

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TimJab posted...

kimberly was my first crush too and i'm like 7 years younger than you

Well I assumed cartoon April O'Neal didn't count as a "celebrity." <_<

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Third console curse?

Man, if third consoles are considered cursed just based on the 7800, Saturn, N64, and PS3, then fourth consoles must be REALLY cursed considering the only representatives there are the Jaguar, Dreamcast, and Gamecube.

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TheConductorSix posted...

Secret World of Alex Mack(everyone's first celebrity crush).

God you people are young.

EDIT: Maybe not as young as first suspected. Even though my memories of Alex Mack are that it was a show that was premiering right about the time I phased Nickelodeon out of my life due to being "too old," in fact my actual first celebrity crush (Kimberly the Pink Ranger) only predates Alex Mack by a year. Huh.

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I agree that they have the best shot at it. My point is that it's ridiculously difficult and not something anyone should expect.

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I take that back, the 360 is on pace to be CLOSE to 100 Million if they pushed it out to 10 years.

I find the phrases "expect it to last 10 years" and "never have to upgrade your hardware again" a little contradictory. <_<

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Well, the 360 is gonna hit 8 years when this thing comes out and it's not on pace for anything close to 100 Million even if they pushed it to 10.

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Expecting 100 Million lifetime sales is quite lofty!

As far as consoles go only the PS1 and PS2 have managed that.

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I felt like that was a subtle insider jab at the Brock Lesnar situation, since dirt sheets have floated the idea that Vince is pissed at Lesnar and Trips had to talk him off the ledge (another instance of either them working the dirt sheets or else the dirt sheets making up BS by the way)

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Speaking of AJ, I know we have some comic book guys here so I meant to ask but forgot:

She tweeted this week that her Jean Grey Phoenix action figure has been mysteriously dropping off the shelf on its own this week.
http://img.ly/jxYJ

Is this is any way character foreshadowing or is it just her being a dork?

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I've seen it referred to as a "love rhombus" and I think that's a great term

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Talented Natalya Neidhart had a really nice match with Puerto Rico's fiery Sofia of who I'm optimistic. Raquel Diaz (Guerrero) vs. Paige was another solid, Diva outing featuring two young women who have wrestling in their blood. Paige, from England, is another young, aggressive talent on which to keep an eye. Racquel has a huge personality as that's what her DNA has produced. We also saw a physical bout between Tamina vs. Kaitlyn which featured two of the strongest women in all the WWE. Bottom line, a really nice night for a talented group of Divas.

Especially interested in the evolution of the duo known as Ascension. This team has something special going for themselves and if they keep pushing to improve could be impactful in WWE for years to come. Time will tell.

Obviously the cupboards are not bare in the WWE Developmental program. There are many talents that I did not mention that have the opportunity to be special...in time and through their own hard work and diligence. I'm hopeful that these athletes take their careers in their own hands and refuse to fail.

The talent's attitude is refreshing and everyone, and I mean everyone, worked hard and with great effort. Can they improve? Absolutely, we all can, and that's what NXT is all about and those that keep bearing down and improving all phases of their game will realize their dreams if it is meant to be. Those that unfortunately discover and then remain in a comfort zone won't find the career that they seek.

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JR gushing over the NXT tapings:

Might just be me but it feels as if some talents are more relaxed at the NXT tapings than some appear to be at other WWE events and as a result they performed at a higher level for the most part.

We had several really good bouts Thursday night as the focus of the broadcast is still in the introductory stage of presenting new, talents and talents with limited or inconsistent TV exposure.

The bouts on NXT generally have a little more time for the talents to tell a viable story and to get much needed TV minutes. It's up to the talents to maximize those minutes and most did.

It seemed that Jinder Mahal was a different talent in Orlando than I have seen him at times on WWE TV. Mahal has a marketable upside in my view and NXT might give him the platform to better develop his in ring efforts. I'd suggest keeping an eye on this highly intelligent, motivated young man.

The same thing can be said of essentially everyone that gets the NXT opportunity. It's a place to refine one's game and to continue to learn. Every TV match is an important opportunity for each person that steps foot in the ring.

I thought that Johnny Curtis and Michael McGillicutty looked promising as a tag team. No reason that I can see that both these young men should not be in the hunt for years to come.

Young Bo Dallas (formerally Rotundo) has an outstanding upside and he's still just a pup. Excellent, natural instincts.

Bray Wyatt's TV persona is one of the most unique and compelling to come along in a good while and the young athlete, who at one time wrestled as Husky Harris, has but a great deal of time and effort into his new persona. Some may compare it to the DeNiro character in Cape Fear and even Waylon Mercy back in the day but this uniquely Bray Wyatt incarnation feels new and fresh plus the athlete behind it is big and aggressive....and has youth going for him.

Drew McIntyre, who has always had potential, had one of his best days on the job with WWE, in my view, while at NXT Thursday. His match with Seth Rollins, another seemingly can't miss prospect, was stellar. McIntyre is only 27 and I'm thinking that if he can continue get the extra work in NXT that the Scot will take the next step up the ladder in the near future.

Tyson Kidd stood out again and is beginning to put more personality with his already amazing in ring skills which is imperative to get to the proverbial Promised Land. Derrick Bateman had a good night as well.

Antonio Cesaro vs. Alex Riley was a really solid match to call and both talents have something special to offer the WWE.

Loved the match that Justin Gabriel had with Heath Slater. They did not look like the same two talents that I have seen at times on other WWE broadcasts.

South Africa's Leo Kruger and Richie Steamboat had a good bout, too. Throughly enjoyed it. I've seen these two in the ring on many occasions and they both are bound for productive careers unless something unforseen occurs especially as it relates to their own motivation and desire to improve upon what they do for a living.

Several of the former independent wrestlers that WWE has signed for FCW work and subsequently who will be appearing on NXT are beginning to standout.

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John Cena tweeting "Freebird" lyrics.

This divorce has f***ed him up, lol

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And demanding apologies from dirt sheets, lol.

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Yeah, Punk is on Twitter now denying it.

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Let's be fair though, it might NOT even be about Punk's match.

Maybe he's clued into creative enough to know what else is planned for the show and thinks THOSE plans are stupid.

Because honestly there's not really a reasonable finish to the WWE Title match that could be THAT bad.

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Oh, and AJ is the one who distracts Punk with her crazy sexy antics.

Punk would probably be totally against his character falling for that.

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SmartMuffin posted...

So, now let's brainstorm, what would be the stupidest possible finish to this match that would legitimately anger Punk in such a way?

Title match opens the show

Kane wins by pinning Punk and Bryan both at the same time

AJ leaves with Kane

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I put it up on PWB to gauge the reaction of the unwashed masses.

We'll see how easily "smart marks" are worked!

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I mean, CM Punk is outspoken to be sure, but he's not stupid. There's a line between "The product is lacking and I want to make it better" and "I don't know why anyone still watches WWE"

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Just so long as he leaves them up long enough for people to notice and document them, that is.

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No way, taking them down makes it seem like they MADE him take them down

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Maybe it's a REALITY ERA~! means of creating doubt about his title match when otherwise it's entirely predictable. <_<

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Punk tweeted these and then took them down

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PIPEBOMB~!

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