Lurker > Wanglicious

actually Starcraft vs. Halo is a great example of what i'm saying too in terms of Frog vs. Master Chief.
44% of B8 said SC > Halo, 24% of the brackets did that.
51% of B8 said Frog > Chief, 22% of the brackets did that.

both are contest upsets. not because of a 7% difference of opinion on B8 that are close to 50/50 but because 3/4 of people didn't see it coming.

that's a pretty good one too!

though i don't see the spirit of the question that way either. if 78% of people who made brackets all said 'yeah this guy wins' and then he doesn't, that's very much so a major upset by definition. that's how many picked Chief. it's Contest Upsets, not B8's opinion on contest upsets. or phrased differently, the matches people freaked out about, as opposed to the one B8 did.

ChatGPT is writing contest fanfiction about Ness and Sans, can we really trust it with anything.

those are items/devices inside of you that already work regardless. the app doesn't control the usage or function, it's just monitoring.

this is external, it's underwear with additional features. it has more in common with DRM infested cars, trains, or other appliances as a result.

oh no, we're gonna have microtransactions in our always online underwear.
"To enable teleport poop function please pay $3.99!"
"We're sorry your credit card was declined."

and that's how you ruin your reputation forever.
would it be just by area or could it detect the kind of waste? if the latter, even more microtransactions. and what if i'm a spot with awful reception? will it still work or will it teleport things away slower to match the data speed.

i'll just shill for Your Name as a good 4th for anybody simply because you don't get anime movies that 1) aren't Miyazaki, and 2) aren't Dragon Ball, which can perform so well globally in the box office.

it's also just plain a really, really great movie with a time traveling romance that warms the heart and has a soundtrack to match. besides, i like the idea of a non American movie, hell a movie released in the current century, to be on the Mount Rushmore because so many of these options are old. they're great but variety is nice and the quality absolutely measures up.

my only concern of this is 1) employers would find a way to make bathroom breaks be unnecessary somehow, and 2) piss breaks when drinking help you know how far you've gone. without that uhhh... bars are tricky.

this would however be the #1 hit with women around the world and would be the fastest adopted piece of underwear ever. given the chance, every parent would put this on their newborn too, so the next generation would grow up with this guaranteed. would legit be a 1 generation switch.

your ruling is objectively wrong. you used AI to rule on Groundhog Day and it's AI telling you that Ledger's Joker shares more in common with the comics than Thanos' MCU version with the comics. factually, objectively, wrong.

Bitto posted...

We need to time travel and allow Thanos on the Movie Villains Rushmore.

....amusingly End Game actually should work for this topic too.

meanwhile you ask similar questions on Heath Ledger's Joker and this is what you get:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/5/59bc8aa3.jpg

AI flat out knows the truth.

also the AI overlords even agree on Thanos being ridiculously different!

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/22beee64.jpg

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/fe188320.jpg

Back to the Future
Groundhog Day
Terminator
Your Name

gotta give some credit to an anime movie that did it and with ridiculous acclaim.

i mean it can't really hurt him more than the rest of the show is, people who watch AEW are used to stupid shit already and people who don't weren't gonna watch it. maybe he'll get a .30 rating this time and go right back to .27 again.

realistically the WW3 escalation is still china and taiwan. we still need them, japan still says they'll go to war if anything happens there.

who the fuck says plug it out.

punk fans see it as him being a backstage badass, people who don't like him see it as him being an asshole, and everyone in the middle can't see it as a thing to care about. what a dumb video.

is his will gonna leave a note saying 'of course i did it.'

vader and wicked witch both would be fine.

However, if a villain's original form of media is largely forgotten/significantly dwarfed in popularity by the prevalence of the movie(s), then they count as a Movie Villain.

Thanos is pretty much Joker rule right after.

european countries are already there, of course they'd be significantly faster and with a bigger impact. france and germany are two of the big dogs of the world and they essentially have co-ownership of the EU so if the situation were to become one where troops were needed, they'd be the ones to initiate. otherwise yes, it'd be sending our guys for no reason. if there was one, it'd happen from the countries over there.

sure, but it'll affect us long after it affects them. they're the neighbors, they have armies, no reason for us to send our people to die in something halfway around the world. that part of the world can deal with their shit first, if they need help then it's a conversation to be had. otherwise, nope.

the rest of europe first. if they ain't, no reason we should.

April 15th if you haven't done them yet and live in the US. got 5 days left to super procrastinators, double check to see what free filings are available to those with 79k or less if it's 1040 this year. taxslayer went up compared to last. and hopefully their new direct filing program expands because it's seriously bullshit that it ain't free by default.

https://www.irs.gov/filing/free-file-do-your-federal-taxes-for-free

or to put a different way:

if you think AMERICA FUCK YEAH

it's not a green lady holding a torch, it's an eagle, a flag, maybe some guns, and if there's any structure it's the White House.

America became the symbol of power post cold war so you can say it's the seat of leadership but said seat is "leader of the free world" and "most powerful country in the world." so any movie talking of destroying or invading America will need to destroy the White House; any spy movie that talks about America security will need to talk about and/or include the White House; any movie or show about leaders of the world will need to feature the White House - especially something like West Wing which literally takes place in it. then you get into jokes and parodies (e.g., South Park) and those all will again be the White House. especially post Trump for that aspect. we can also go a step further into real world scandals where it's regularly been brought up between Clinton, Bush/Chaney, and Trump.

you just don't get that with the Statue of Liberty. you'll get shots of it or its destruction (especially if you need to destroy NYC for some reason or another) but it's more in passing and a much smaller deal than the capital being destroyed or brought up in shots. i don't see it as often or as relevant in most of what's consumed and for better or worse it's a consumer heavy world.

see i'll accept the statue as an argument but not because of movies, but more of a legacy difference. i think if you look at movies, games, or just general pop culture of the past 30-40 years it's going to be a lot more white house representation over the statue, which would dominate pre 1990. largely because we shut down the immigration area, we shut down the tours inside the statue, but the white house remains as, well, the white house.

sure, then Independence Day blew up the white house.

Wanglicious posted...

that's a rough poll and situation.

Mount Rushmore
Lincoln Memorial
Washington Monument

only 3 on that list that sprung out as 'yeah these are seen and used in things.'

take out Lincoln and Washington Memorials. new 4 will go:

Mount Rushmore
Empire State Building
Statue of Liberty
White House

first is still vocabulary.
second is frankly one of the best NYC tourist items overall considering you end up being near so many other things that matter and you can actually go inside. so everyone who visits for a first time ends up seeing it and deciding if they go inside.
third is more of a legacy thing because ever since you couldn't go inside it lost a ton of value for tourism beyond pics on a boat.
fourth is probably the best known symbol of America.

KamikazePotato posted...

My issue with 'White House' is that it's a place where actual things happen and work is done. To me a monument should be like a showpiece. Something that only exists to be looked at.

in fairness it's also where trips and tours are had too. traditionally it wasn't unusual for that to be part of a tourist attraction.

yeah, i was thinking Epcot Cener or the castle but those have other countries with them so it feels significantly less "American." and it's funny that in a nation so full of sports we don't have one clear "this stadium is THE ONE" and it's viewed as just tourist attraction for each state.

oh yeah, i can't think of a stadium that'd be big enough here but i mean, football and baseball would be the gimme options. but at that point we're having a question of is it best as a representative as a man made monument, tourist attraction, or does it even matter.

...in that case that changes things quite a bit.

starting with the white house. world trade center would also have a huge reason in that case too since, while a major tourist attraction in its own right, had its collapse signal a massive global shift.

hell you can probably include some parts of disney world but maybe not considering these aren't uniquely american anymore. and coca cola museum ain't big enough for the next super american thing i could think of.

mount rushmore is the only one that transcended from monument to literally vocabulary. of course it has to count.

wiki list was incomplete after all.
https://www.nps.gov/stli/index.htm

"The Statue of Liberty Enlightening the World" was a gift of friendship from the people of France to the United States and is recognized as a universal symbol of freedom and democracy. The Statue of Liberty was dedicated on October 28, 1886. It was designated as a National Monument in 1924.

not voting anything yet because i don't wanna repeatedly be changing due to a more complete list. and don't know if liberty bell counts as a monument.

that's a rough poll and situation.

Mount Rushmore
Lincoln Memorial
Washington Monument

only 3 on that list that sprung out as 'yeah these are seen and used in things.'

it's funny but DKC vs LttP on this category is one where i just have to side with DKC as the bigger deal. for scope of the SNES it was huge; the visuals and music made a revolutionary push towards the mainstream, it helped keep the SNES alive right as the PS1 was launching, it scared the shit out of Sega and helped continue their series of mistakes. bluntly it was just plain more popular and had become the representative of the SNES, getting viewed as the successor to Mario.

i mean, it didn't really play out that way in the long run today but for a console rep i think you've gotta give it the nod over Zelda, even if more people think LttP was a better game.

the overbooking made sense and required fairly minimal knowledge, especially in recent years. won't spoil it but it's a rare case of overbooking was the correct way to book it, especially considering there was a real match beneath it. it's well worth a watch.

Fluttershy_Pony posted...

Saturn Maria & PSP Maria are different characters. PSP Maria's gameplay is more closely inspired by her Rondo of Blood appearance (including changing the collectable sub-weapons into the Holy Beasts and summoning birds for her normal attack); Saturn Maria kicks enemies & has the standard sub-weapons, but can cast spells for the Holy Beasts.

oh. well damn, learned something new.

there was also guardian heroes and burning ranger!
games by Treasure and Sonic Team of which maybe the former has some people remember it. the latter is obscure as it gets, i only know it because i've got my friend's broken saturn still to this day and that was one of the games he owned. Sonic 3D Blast exists there too, even if it's the black sheep, as an arguable "best soundtrack in Sonic series."

but yeah, unfortunately the Saturn's existence is so minimal that a release there doesn't mean much, if anything. hell, SoTN on the Saturn technically is the version with more content considering it had Maria mode but i don't remember if that came out in the US. and eventually the PSP included it anyway so it can remain forgotten.

it's the Saturn.
the hardest part about a mount rushmore of the saturn is getting 4 games.

i mean a lot of games were big deals at the time, including games that just made genres. GT1 has the ability to say it refined the racing genre from what was there but has the issue of racing games already existing on the console (e.g., Ridge Racer) and arcades not being completely and utterly dead, though the PS1 was definitely a huge part of it and GT1 can say it was partially responsible for that. it's a case of we would've definitely gotten to this point sooner than later as things were progressing in this path. that's in opposition to new 3D platformers, new 3D adventure games, and survival horror to name a few. none of which had really existed previously in console form (PC did have all this but PC was a more complicated and expensive mess).

yeah, SoTN is definitely a favorites pick more so than anything else. love it but no place here.

Final Fantasy VII
Metal Gear Solid
Tomb Raider
Resident Evil

boring first two.
Tomb Raider was huge at the time and PS1 was the main place it sold. big enough for it to have a movie 5 years after release with Angelina Jolie in her prime. only argument against it is that PC existed as a reasonable 2nd pick.
Resident Evil kinda dwarfs all the other options at this time. RE also has the same movie situation, only 6 years later. that by itself proves that RE4 wasn't the needle mover since the game came out 3 years later. but for the game itself, its importance early on was proving CDs as a medium and 3D graphics, both of which made the N64 and Saturn look inferior consoles at the start of that war. like Crash is a mascot but wasn't as big a deal as those two series with any game, Gran Turismo honestly should've won PS2 but not here, where we have a lot of new games and genres existing and it just... kinda gets lost in the shuffle.

weirdly boring options.

Pokemon Gold/Silver

Crystal was color exclusive so i think it's also where the line was. i believe MGS is color exclusive, which breaks the one requirement.

it's a love it or hate it kinda game and though it does draw distance and scale nicely the PS2 has so many more things on it that i don't even think it cracks the top 10. technically impressive, sure, but so are many others that are way more significant at every level, both then and now. even the art argument, Silent Hill 2 has a better place for that and has been more impactful to gaming. you've got things like GTA3 opening up the sandbox, DMC creating character action games (and frankly God of War votes should be going to Devil May Cry instead) before making one of the best ever in DMC3, Metal Gear showing how to use the new visuals with the new cutscenes in a way that was cinematic like we hadn't seen before, FF showing off pretty new visuals in a fantastic RPG that tied visuals, story, and music together at another level; there's a ton out there for that system. hell, Ace Combat 4 and 5 should get honorable mentions somewhere in there too, though they're far too niche. still quite good sellers though.

genesis by itself, no 32X or CD attachments?

and would Sonic 3 & Knuckles count considering the two are separate games technically as you needed an attachment to play them together? because if that counts then it might just be it.

GTA3 was literally Jack Thompson.
like the entire fight of video games as freedom of speech and freedom of expression, fought in court, revolved around GTA3.

that game is one of the most important video games to have ever existed, let alone for the PS2.

that... isn't actually selling the game, no. it was initially a flop, viewed as a flop, and nintendo carried it into households with the subscriptions. people didn't care for dragon quest globally.

Wanglicious posted...

tricky one. Mario, Zelda, Mega Man, Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Metal Gear, all had notable starts here. Metroid did too but, well, that really kicked into gear after Super Metroid and frankly it's a lesser series to most of those. a bunch of series are in that situation.

Super Mario Bros.
The Legend of Zelda
Final Fantasy

first two feel like locks considering they became some of the biggest and most synonymous games with Nintendo to this day. FF feels like a lock as well considering it defined JRPGs and continues to this day as one of the most successful JRPG series out there. i guess the weight on choices i'd give is 1) importance to the system, 2) lasting legacy. if it's something talked about to this day or if it left a significant mark, basically. while Mario 3 obviously is important, i don't think that one game is going to be more relevant than an entire series such as Metal Gear, Dragon Quest, or Mega Man. and between SMB1 and SMB3, it's gotta be 1, as opposed to arguments for MM2 or DQ.

remove Final Fantasy
add Dragon Quest 3
add Mega Man 2

would prob make FF a 5th. but something's gotta be said for music and platformers, with that being MM2's importance.

while DQ1 is influential it - and FF1 - were both looking at Ultima and Wizardy at the time to get an idea of what kind of RPG to make. DQ made some adjustments, FF made adjustments on that, release. FF got the Western sensibilities better on the first, though didn't bother with the next two, while DQ got them in Japan and just focused on it there. DQ3 was when they took more elements (e.g., classes) out and made it their own.

felt it yeah. got friends in other boroughs that did too, apparently went as far as connecticut. 4.8 in the tri-state ain't weak, we have almost no infrastructure meant for this.

Hbthebattle posted...

I mean, now FF is bigger than DQ, yeah, but at the time Dragon Quest was the big thing - FF was inspired by it, as were most other RPG developers. On the NES, all 4 DQ games outsold the first Final Fantasy.

i mean i agree that DQ's influence should be included but the overseas release of FF was also more successful and is what westerners identified as JRPGs more with. very much so a case of Japan vs everyone else.

like i don't object to both being on the list.