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scarletspeed7 posted...

That doesn't matter. The person delivering the joke does not make a joke funnier.

if it didn't matter, it wouldn't be what it is now.
the biggest part of the joke isn't the meme, it's that the president is using that meme.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

#1 - Your audience is everyone on Twitter. If any sizable chunk of your audience goes up in arms, you've done a poor job conveying your joke.

his audience is not "all of twitter," it's way more than that. most of his audience liked it, it became the most popular tweet he's ever had, and the main people who hated it are people who hated him in the first place. who then proceeded to cover it more than anything else, so that's a great job as it takes away news from failed health care.

scarletspeed7 posted...

#2 - The timing is what makes everyone go up in arms after earlier more pointed statements against CNN and other media sources. Therefore he broke the timing.

if the timing is what makes your base happy and your detractors pissed off, you got the timing just right. if nobody cared and it flopped, yeah, that'd be failing the rule. but it succeeded.

scarletspeed7 posted...

#3 - This fucking gif has been used for 20-plus months now and anyone who has a fucking computer has seen it before (sans the CNN logo). It's unoriginal. It's completely worthless as a joke now.

except it didn't come from the POTUS.
and that's the original aspect. that modern day presidential is shitposting wrestling memes.
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the gif is in its own little bubble because CNN was stupid enough to put it in one by attacking that particular thing and said it's a call to violence. which was stupid. they've got plenty of other examples and it would've been wiser for them to let that go but they instead doubled down and it's going to suck because they're giving him ground and destroying their arguments (i.e., mental health issues) at the same time.
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...he totally succeeded on the first two and this is the first go around where he does some pleb tier shitposting.
he successfully did all three rules.
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in the sense of it's part of an overall theme of "Trump vs. The Press," sure.
but in the sense of that particular GIF being an attack or call to attack, no.

that one's just shitposting and gloating if you want something more concrete. gotta remember that the context here is that CNN was caught between Project Veritas establishing that some think the Russia story is fake and CNN themselves having to retract a Russian story because they couldn't prove it (see: it was fake). immediately after that for the first time in a long time, stories about Russia all but vanished on them and that itself became a story.

and the meme came after that.
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it's sadder that you see a wrestling clip where CNN's logo is super imposed onto a man's head and think it's an attack at all.
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hey man, you never know about that Kathy.
she's a literal Griffith.
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....uh, no.
if you're saying he's holding a synthetic replica of your head then you also have to say you'd beat the the crap out of a friend wearing a smartmuffin mask. not him.

the only way it would be actually him is if he's holding up your actual head.
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UItimaterializer posted...

Is it really true CNN attacked the wrong user? What kind of research department do they have?

literally buzzfeed's old one.
and it was buzzfeed's newer one that revealed that.

said it earlier in topic but that's a half truth. this guy made the GIF but that's all he did. somebody else took it, cropped it, edited other aspects of it, and added audio to it.

i mean it's that or somebody else in trump's meme team thought "hey that's a good one" and proceeded to recreate it. which is equally possible since if you're going into that much effort already it's easy to just torrent the episode of raw and do the shit edit yourself.
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nobody ever stopped ya.
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SupremeZero posted...

Wang, if I wake up tomorrow morning, and find that this conversation has ended, I will be highly disappointed in you and consider you to not be Wang anymore.

well hey if it gets brought up i'll have no prob going at it again. but i make no promises.
and i doubt the story is actually over come tomorrow anyway. CNN hasn't written an article crying their own victimhood yet, i think.
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man, you had me confused there.
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3 hours.
also i'm almost at the king burst pot threshold in this thing and it's not going to be over until next week. just how many coins are there, jesus.

and lid needs jake to play off of to work.
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"or other valuable thing," pebbles.
i mean coercion probably is the correct term to use but blackmail's got a stronger punch to it.
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xp1337 posted...

Another tangential question: If not the media, who decides what rises to the level of public interest? And how do they do so? Is there an empirical test?

that is indeed something that media decides, though at this point "media" can be used loosely since we're in a weird transition where defining "media" isn't just CNN and Fox, it's also a couple thousand youtubers, comedy shows, and people on twitter. as for how the answer is pretty much "they just cover it."

if something is covered, gets good attention, and can be parsed in a couple minutes tops, others will cover it too. if it's a convoluted mess, coverage will become more limited. that second question is basically "the way you deal with people in sales" for an answer.


as for the third... not really? i mean if a story is ripe then sure you cover it but it'll be you and many others. you can also carve out your niche for certain news, if there's a hole needing to be filled, one guy can come in and monopolize it. but a sort of "if we do things THIS way we'll always break out the best story!" is... not really there. you can run a certain schedule of content, analyze what's gained the most hits, and work from that but it's basically a lot of throwing shit at a wall and working with what you got, provided not too many sponsors pull if you're edging that corner.
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xp1337 posted...

Tangential question (because anything would be better than... this): What is the legal precedent, if any, with regards to expectation of privacy in regards to internet forums?

In general, I think most people expect it, but I'm not sure where courts have ruled.

to further what FFD said, just bear in mind that what he pointed out was towards chat rooms and open forums. current system where PMs, DMs, etc are a thing do allow for some expectation of privacy in them. though most of this discussion goes around law enforcement, what it takes for a warrant, etc, and i'm not sure if that's where you're going with this.
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Since when are private citizens immune to reporting?

we talking about ethical practices or legal ones here.
the difference between those two is pretty big. there's a legal line out there but it's generally going to be crossed when you reach private conversations, DMs and the like. in this case we're talking about a person's identity though, which will fall more under ethical issues first (would fail this test) and legal second (specifics would matter, i don't know how much truth there is in Reddit giving the IP address to the journo).
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Inviso posted...

Why does further explaining their rationale not work for you?

because there isn't anything to further explain.
the reason news shouldn't do that to private citizens is because they're private citizens. it's a circular point, there's no expansion of it. that's all it is.

Inviso posted...

Why do you think they would openly brag about blackmailing a guy

<_<; you've mentioned them as being stupid, shitty, incompetent, and then ask why they would do something stupid, shitty, and incompetent. i don't have a good answer for you here because they really shouldn't have done any of this in the first place. if they were reasonable or competent, they wouldn't be simply doubling down on it.

Inviso posted...

GOOD THING THEY DIDN'T FUCKING REVEAL THE INFO THEN, HUH?

yeah.
BAD THING that they're listing a set of personal behavior that, if he doesn't do, they reserve the right to do it.

GuessMyUserName posted...

Then I've got some good news for you: CNN did no such thing.

right.
they just have an implied threat saying that if he doesn't play ball, eh, be a real shame.
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Inviso posted...

YOU'RE the one who's butthurt because a precious little internet troll isn't allowed to internet troll without consequences anymore.

no, if he wants to still do it he'll do it as anon. actual anon, not reddit.
i don't know who he is, i don't care who he is. but i generally don't like media revealing private info unless there's a very, very good reason for it like, say, a crime. even a high potential of a crime. something of value in the public interest is another good one.

this just doesn't fit anything. didn't like it when Gawker did it, don't like it when CNN's doing it.

Inviso posted...

Wang doesn't think that CNN should publish that perfectly legal information in the first place, which was the point of my post. Try to keep up.

and muffin's point is valid too so this isn't actually a defense against it.
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Inviso posted...

They could've just said "the gif, made by *insert name here*" and that would've fit journalistic standards.

...no, it wouldn't. that would've flown in the face of "do no harm" at an extreme level that it'd be completely unethical. i mean it'd fit Gawker's standards of being a shit that makes you open to lawsuits but CNN ain't Gawker (yet).

Inviso posted...

because they had to explain why they felt it was necessary not to reveal his name.

"because he's a private citizen."
why does that line not seem to work for you.

Paratroopa1 posted...

So I'm just sitting here thinking, "maybe the president of the United States shouldn't create a situation in which someone COULD conceivably be harassed for a gif on twitter"

just a thought I had

modern day presidential just works like that, for better or worse.
modern day journalism racing to the bottom with it is about as depressing too.
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

For presumably becoming news again, duh.

but he's not news if he goes back on his pledge or says he's not sorry anymore.
he's still just a putz talking shit online, making GIFs, or being an asshole. he isn't anything special or doing anything newsworthy by violating that.

if your concern is that he's going to be news again, you would have terms that actually relate to that.
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GuessMyUserName posted...

CNN didn't lay out any fucking terms, quit with that stupid wording.

those are quite explicitly terms. terms in writing, terms stated on TV.
"We are not doing (A) because you have done (B), (C), and (D)."

be a shame if you stopped doing them.
otherwise (A) might have to happen.


those are terms of agreement. no way out of that one.

Inviso posted...

So Wang, just to be clear: if they had willingly outed him without conditions, you would have no problem with it?

where the hell did you get this from, of course not. should've just left it at he's a private citizen, that's it. if he makes himself a public citizen then the situation is obviously different, no concern.
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Inviso posted...

What you JUST said isn't a sign of coercion either. The implication is exactly what Tony just said.

and then you flip the statement and get to my point.
what if he goes back on that pledge?
what if he stops apologizing?

because by the wording, it's saying CNN will have reason to out him. and for what, not saying he's sorry, calling someone a slur, or making more GIFs?
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kevwaffles posted...

Wang, let's put it this way.

Pretend that there is no negative context to anything the guy ever posted in his life. Pretend that what Trump retweeted was just some cat picture or something equally innocuous. You could play out the events from there on with a guy who just freaks out at the concept of being a public figure IRL after a news organization reached him for comment and you wouldn't have shit to say on this.

honestly i wouldn't like it if they did that either, but again, i can get that part of it.
that paragraph/that statement though, nope.
when you say that the reason you aren't releasing his info is because of these specific terms, you're not doing news anymore.
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

"The guy deleted his posts and apologized, assuming it's not a facade, the news is over so there's no point in releasing his info."

"CNN is not publishing the user's name because of his apology, his removal of all the effective posts, and his pledge to not repeat this behavior on social media."

that's what the reporter said on TV.
that is not the same as what you just said.
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KamikazePotato posted...

P.S. Yes, Wang, I understand that not ALL of your posts are 100% about that sort of thing. It's a very disproportionately high amount though.

only in the sense that when the subject comes up, i post, arguments ensue for a ton of posts, sure.
but in the sense of topics that i discuss in these topics? no, it's really not.
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Inviso posted...

Only if you interpret it that way.

what other words are there to interpret a single sentence like that.
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Inviso posted...

You're CLEARLY reading too much into this to paint this guy as a victim. Period.

you have a reporter for CNN get no national TV and explicitly state that he's not getting his personal info released because of those four things. in those words.

that's just looking at what's literally said.
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Inviso posted...

You keep mentioning those four points, but let's be real here...that's CNN covering their ass to try and explain why they're maintaining the anonymity of a guy they refer to as HanA******Solo multiple times.

"he is a private citizen."
that's all that they need to do to explain it.
"because of these four things."

is not something they need to do to explain it.
at that point you cross the line into limiting what he can do by giving an implied threat.

i keep mentioning them because that is the issue. if he were to become a person of interest again for some reason, that's totally fine, it's just not going to be from what they're limiting him on. that's why it's not a cover your ass line.
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LapisLazuli posted...

You're moving into ExTha mode, we're done.

no, i just plain don't like liars and that's all you've been doing about me.
you don't know what i've posted. you haven't kept track of it, you don't know what you're talking about, you don't know what subjects i've argued about. because they aren't ever with you. moron, biscuit, jakyl (definitely the most here), tony, ffd, scarlet, - sure. plenty of topics discussed, arguments had, etc. sometimes i don't post for a week and then i'm in again for whatever ongoing subject we've got, from healthcare to stuff on hillary to stuff on trump's mental health, whatever he's doing with the military, etc. all discussions had that you aren't in because those aren't things you care about. and that's fine.

but i ain't over here lying about what you're posting in or what you're posting about - that's what you're doing to me, and i don't tolerate that shit. you want to talk about my posting habits, have proof or shut the fuck up.
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Ok but this guy was literally taking credit for something attacking them, that was tweeted by the President of the United States.

With that, he became sort of notable.

so dig into him then if that's the case. alright, fine.
and then when you find out he's nothing, well, don't go around reserving the right to release his public info if he stops apologizing or calls someone a slur. if you know he's nothing, is deleting everything, and still say that, you fit more with baph-tier trolls than news.

the bold though is why i was calling this super petty early on. still is. "hey we got the guy that came after us!" is the sort of vibe it gives.
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...and wait a sec.
that wasn't even defnding a shitty meme.

it's complaining about how a shitty meme is what they're blowing their load over for trump's mental issues because i totally believe he's got 'em. how do you suck this much at reading.

and are you seriously incapable of searching on your own that you need to be spoonfed pages or can you do that on your own?
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Pram_the_Oracle posted...

Lid > Dark Fina > Sakura > Nichol > Fina > Rain > Lasswell > Jake

Dark Fina > Rain > Sakura > Lid > Jake > Laswell > Nichol > Fina


though laswell is pretty cool, he's just too stiff. wish he had more scenes with Charlotte.
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LapisLazuli posted...

You're defending shitty memes, same exact category. Thanks for validation?

i didn't know health care was a shitty meme.
boy, it's like you don't actually read the fucking topic even when it's linked to you.
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BowserCuffs posted...

I'm gonna be honest, if someone gets their life ruined because they publicly and proudly proclaim their hatred for entire groups of people based on race and conspiracy theories, that's on them, not on the people listening.

see, i can understand that sentiment.
it's just not something a news organization should be doing, unless it's cause for a public concern. like if this guy was in public office? yeah, go for it. but if he's just a no-name putz? he's irrelevant.

this sort of thing where a guy lists off things you gotta do so he doesn't reveal you is the sort of thing i expect from doxers, blackmailers, etc. not news organizations.
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LapisLazuli posted...

I have never seen Wang make a post in the politics topic that wasn't in some way directly tied to being pro gamergate/reddit/4chan.

you too eh?
so basically you don't read the topic either.


hey, here's last topic.
https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/75524055

do a search for me on the first page.
and second.
now shut the fuck up and stop making up lies.
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i know you do ffdeedee.
but i don't think we have a way to understand each other either.
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Inviso posted...

Except literally every person thinks you're wrong.

quite untrue.
though this isn't actually an argument.

Inviso posted...

CNN, again, paragon of journalism, writes a really poorly-written article that is easily misinterpreted.

if they wanted to interpret it in a different way they could've by now.
instead they actually had someone go on air and explicitly state that the reason why they aren't releasing his info is because of those four conditions written there. i'm not ad libbing "because" there, that was the word chosen. with a smile as she said it.
that's not "oh this was poorly written."
that's THEM SAYING IT ON TV.

if they wanted to fix it to mean something otherwise they could've but they aren't.

Inviso posted...

B. CNN, a fucking massive news organization, digs up dirt on a random guy that made a gif that President Trump posted, and decided to blackmail this random, insignificant guy because they literally have nothing better to do.

you can check the last topic where i said exactly that it's doubtful CNN left any explicit threats to the guy. that's been consistent all through here too and i don't think anybody has said anything to the contrary. the issue of blackmail - or coercion, that's probably the more accurate term - is entirely in what's written in that paragraph which they have doubled down on and said on national TV. that's it. if that bit didn't exist, none of this would exist. but it does and it ain't accidental or badly worded - that's what it is. it's the "because" in "we aren't releasing his private information because..."

and honestly?
it was their logo there getting badly clotheslined. a personal slight against them. trying to reach him in the first place is also honestly a "do you seriously have nothing better to do" thing too. most of the stuff in A) you mentioned is pretty true, it just excuses the part that doesn't have an actual excuse.

ChaosTonyV4 posted...

"The guy deleted all his posts and apologized, so the story is essentially over and we see no need to release his info."

A more rational reading of what they literally said.

if this was what they literally said, there would've been minimal drama.

Eddv posted...

Yes it is. Literally every time you waltz in here its to defend some shitlord. You use all the same tactics you used to use when you kept the fucking Gamergate topics going.

You literally dont otherwise come in here.

100% bullshit.
the only way you can believe this is if you literally don't read the topics. i'm pretty regularly in here posting on a regular basis. you're completely wrong here.
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Eddv posted...

He will continue to contort and REALLY FUCKING care about these semantics if it means defending the Fascist, Alt right, Gamergate affiliated douche bag all while pretending to merely have an intellectual interest in keeping those who so unfairly malign those people honest.

no, i'm just consistent with defending people who i like and dislike because the principle and ideas go beyond the individual. i've defended plenty of people on the left, i am on the left, so fuck off with that. you keep repeating that and it ain't true.
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FFDragon posted...

...except it's not.

how is it not?

- CNN is a company
- the info they have on him WOULD ruin him socially and professionally. i don't think this is something we'd argue on.
- the reasons why they aren't releasing his personal info has been explicitly stated, on TV and in writing, to be because of those terms.


how is that not literally:
"it's a company is saying that they have personally incriminating information that would ruin you social life and employment and reserve the right to release it if you don't follow these four conditions."


how else do you phrase what that is?
because again, it ain't covering their asses. and it ain't "if you're newsworthy, we'll do you again" because he can be newsworthy for plenty other reasons.
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FFDragon posted...

He just has no off switch.

not when i'm right, no.
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Espeon posted...

Why CAN'T they call him, exactly?

if you want to contact the guy, you could simply... contact the guy right there as opposed to digging into him and finding out his personal info. he's a pretty minor character in the whole thing: the GIF is technically his but it's size is edited and the audio is added in, meaning somebody else worked it up.

if you want to get his personal number, email, and use both, what do you gain that you wouldn't have had by simply PM'ing him?

....though once again, the biggest issue still comes back to that paragraph.
like even if they did contact him and everything went down as it is, had that not been a mafia style set of conditions with an implied threat at the end, you wouldn't have many complaints.

FFDragon posted...

FFDragon posted...

you pulling on strings

...except that's the actual situation here.
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

they didn't say that. they said they "reserved the right to release the information," not that they absolutely would release the information if he didn't follow the four conditions.

...alright, so replace the line with that.


it's a company is saying that they have personally incriminating information that would ruin you social life and employment and reserve the right to release it if you don't follow these four conditions, what do you call that?
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LordoftheMorons posted...

Again, contacting the subject of a story is standard journalistic procedure.

then PM him on reddit.
that's pretty standard as well.
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...and while i'm at it, there's two separate points on the blackmail bit which you seemed to confuse FFD.

you can either say it's the terms they set from the beginning, which... i don't think anybody's arguing, or you can say it's the terms which are currently applied against him. if he speaks otherwise and breaks the narrative, they'll release info. if he isn't sorry, they'll release info. they've got him by the balls completely and he has to play ball.

that's why people call it blackmail or coercion.
it's a company saying that they have personally incriminating information that would ruin you social life and employment and will release it unless you follow these four conditions.

what else do you call that?
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those "semantics" are important because it goes against the notion that CNN didn't have a hand in anything to begin with - by contacting him in mutliple ways it's clear they did have a hand in what he later did.

we don't know what was stated by CNN in voicemail or emails. we don't even know if there was any active communication via email - wouldn't be spoken to so fits their lawyerese - with the guy. what did they say? how did he know what to purge and when to do it?

but the whole claim about the timeline is busted once it's established contact is made.
the biggest indication of blackmail or coercion comes, once again, in the four terms that were set: you either keep apologizing, effectively disappear, or we publish. that's still the sticking point. because that's what they've confirmed is the reason why they aren't releasing his info.
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TheRock1525 posted...

As KFile notes, CNN did not speak with the user until after he had deleted the offensive materials and posted an apology.

ah yes, this line.
the most bullshit line of the whole thing.

"did not speak with" is specific. by that they mean vocally speak on the phone.
it does not mean contact. it does not refer to any other form of communication like email. it is exclusively meant for voice.

and we know that because by KFile's own admission, they did contact him directly over email and phone.
they did so on Monday.
on Tuesday he deletes everything and CNN runs the story.

but i guess in your world that must've been a coincidence.
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TheRock1525 posted...

Like people are literally getting mad at CNN for doing basic investigative journalism.

the biggest thing people are mad at CNN for is the blackmail. if you'd read the topic or read/see anything on the subject, you'd see that's the biggest issue. that's the point hammered time and time again in any reporting of the story. they listed four terms and conditions and explicitly stated, in both writing and on TV, that the reason his identity isn't being made public is because of those.

it ain't a cover your ass clause, if that's all they were after it wouldn't be what's written there. it's a "you fucked with us" clause. it's the kind of thing you'd see a mafia do. left, center, and right have all seen as much, it ain't a particularly partisan split.
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Yes, they were obviously wrong considering the entire company was annihilated for it.

(Tangent: Interesting how all the same dudes metaphorically jerking it over Gawker's demise loooove the Fappening.)


But they could have found a way to discuss the newsworthy / cringey part of Hulk Hogan saying the N word (that was on the same tape, right?)

well not everyone agrees with them being annihilated for it. i mean there's a damn netflix special trying to portray them as the good guys over that STILL.

(the tangent isn't really that surprising - even though it may be understood as wrong, hot naked chicks are still hot naked chicks. that goes across every category of people, regardless of politics.)

and Hogan saying the n word was on tape but that likely was on the FBI tapes they had won just shortly before writing about that.
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FFDragon posted...

The dude was actively taking credit for it.

yeah... about that uh...
he really shouldn't because he only made part of it.

basically that reddit user made the initial gif. but it was just that, a gif.
somebody else took that, proceeded to crop it and add audio. maybe recreated it. nobody knows specifically what but there's a difference between his initial gif and the mp4 that trump posted.
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