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TopicApparently Kingdom Hearts core fans hates new players to the series.
masterpug53
12/12/18 10:05:37 PM
#75
dave_is_slick posted...
That's a lot of words for being wrong.


About the rebuttal I'd expect from someone who misuses the word 'objectively.'
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TopicApparently Kingdom Hearts core fans hates new players to the series.
masterpug53
12/12/18 7:55:17 PM
#70
PerseusRad posted...
masterpug53 posted...
dave_is_slick posted...
They objectively aren't spin-offs.


Are you one of those people that doesn't realize that Scrubs: Med School (aka 'Season 9' after it flopped and they had to try and push the DVD sales) was a spinoff?

When you have a different core cast, different plot, and different setting / timetable than the main series, it's a spinoff, and is not something that should contain plot information vital to the main series. So I'll ask you a few questions. Do the two games you mentioned star Sora, Donald, and Goofy? Do they take place as direct successors timetable-wise to KH2? Are the plots direct continuations of the events of KH2?

Perhaps you can provide examples of other venerated series where such vital information is handled by series entries that are not designated as part of the main series? Will I suddenly find myself lost in A Song of Ice and Fire if I haven't read Dunk and Egg? How about Harry Potter if I have read Fantastic Beasts? Some examples of other series that do this would be nice, wouldn't want to think that Nomura is just making up his own damn rules of story structure or anything.

I mean the fact that the games include vital information for the next mainline game sorta already implies they aren't spinoffs like youve listed.


But therein lies the flaw: if the writers were competent, this information would have been in the main series games. It paints a very clear picture that they're just making shit up as they go when vital plot information is scattered over several games outside of the main series, and is why KH's plot has rightfully become a punchline in the gaming community.
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TopicApparently Kingdom Hearts core fans hates new players to the series.
masterpug53
12/12/18 7:52:37 PM
#68
Inferno Dive Dragoon posted...
I've only played KH1, 2, and CoM and honestly, after hearing how convoluted the plot became with the later games (with CoM already making the water muddy) I just gave up on the series.


Same (minus CoM, tried playing it twice and couldn't get into it, I hate card-battle games). The more I heard about the series post-KH2, the less interested I became. There was a time that I nearly bought a PS3 under the assumption that Final Fantasy 15 and KH3 would make the system must-buys. There was a big KH3 reveal at E3 some years back that just looked like recycled PS2 footage, and it was at that point that my interest in the continuation of the series bottomed out completely.

Apart from the diehard fanbase (the size of which I honestly have no idea), the Disney worlds angle is the only thing that's going to sell this game to anyone on the fence. I know this is obvious at face-value, but honestly, this was one of KH2's weaker areas over 1. The PotC section was particularly glaring - the graphics were tremendously impressive for the time, but other than that, it was largely shot-for-shot rehashes of the movies with bargain-bin voice acting and little or no music. They're really gonna have to step up the charm of the Disney sections of the game imo.

I'm not sure why I have such an interest in this topic, because I have no intention of buying KH3. I guess I'm just lamenting over a series I used to love.
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TopicApparently Kingdom Hearts core fans hates new players to the series.
masterpug53
12/12/18 7:37:14 PM
#63
dave_is_slick posted...
They objectively aren't spin-offs.


Are you one of those people that doesn't realize that Scrubs: Med School (aka 'Season 9' after it flopped and they had to try and push the DVD sales) was a spinoff?

When you have a different core cast, different plot, and different setting / timetable than the main series, it's a spinoff, and is not something that should contain plot information vital to the main series. So I'll ask you a few questions. Do the two games you mentioned star Sora, Donald, and Goofy? Do they take place as direct successors timetable-wise to KH2? Are the plots direct continuations of the events of KH2?

Perhaps you can provide examples of other venerated series where such vital information is handled by series entries that are not designated as part of the main series? Will I suddenly find myself lost in A Song of Ice and Fire if I haven't read Dunk and Egg? How about Harry Potter if I have read Fantastic Beasts? Some examples of other series that do this would be nice, wouldn't want to think that Nomura is just making up his own damn rules of story structure or anything.
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TopicApparently Kingdom Hearts core fans hates new players to the series.
masterpug53
12/12/18 6:59:24 PM
#58
The_Scarecrow posted...
masterpug53 posted...
DarkChozoGhost posted...
masterpug53 posted...
The_Scarecrow posted...
A YouTube reviewer called Angry Joe will be starting with KH3 and has said that if he doesnt understand the story, he will hold that as a negative against the game.


As well he should. Spinoff games, movies, novels, etc are meant for side stories that, while they may enhance the plot and understanding of the main series, should not be essential to said overall plot. If I go straight from Two Towers into Return of the King and am suddenly lost plot-wise because I didn't watch two straight-to-home-video side movies and listen to an exclusive audio book and play a video game tie-in released on the Atari Lynx, I would be rightfully pissed off and lose interest.

So as far as I know from playing the main entries in the series, Xehanort / Xemnas as they appear in KH 2 are the true main antagonists of the series. If this particular plot point goes any deeper than this without being first revealed in KH 3 (spoiler alert: I already know it does.), then the series has quite simply failed to properly deliver this aspect of the narrative.

Birth By Sleep and DDD aren't side stories though. BBS is KH0. The're just as important as 1 and 2.


That doesn't refute my point, it actually helps it. They should have been main series entries if they're so important, or they should have had their stories woven in as part of a main series title, like Roxas' intro in KH2 (another format option would have been FF 8's Laguna flashbacks). If they're too complex to fit into a main series game, then the creator / writers need to learn how to edit the fluff.

There's really no excusing shuffling vital overarching plot points into side games to the point where numbered entry-only players will be lost, and if I'm being perfectly honest, I hope KH3 gets critically eviscerated for it.


You have no point when the director of the series considers BBS and DDS to be just as important as the numbered entries and not just side games.


Somehow it's not surprising that the guy who got KH's plot into the mess it's in also wants to make up his own rules about what do and do not constitute spinoffs.
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TopicHere's the first poster of the Sonic live-action movie.
masterpug53
12/12/18 12:41:31 PM
#100
The_Doge posted...
IrGAsMD


How can anyone know the way when it's so dark out?
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TopicBeautiful Asses: Part II
masterpug53
12/12/18 12:39:05 PM
#67
Don't feed the troll, folks (round 2).
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TopicApparently Kingdom Hearts core fans hates new players to the series.
masterpug53
12/12/18 12:26:06 PM
#52
DarkChozoGhost posted...
masterpug53 posted...
The_Scarecrow posted...
A YouTube reviewer called Angry Joe will be starting with KH3 and has said that if he doesnt understand the story, he will hold that as a negative against the game.


As well he should. Spinoff games, movies, novels, etc are meant for side stories that, while they may enhance the plot and understanding of the main series, should not be essential to said overall plot. If I go straight from Two Towers into Return of the King and am suddenly lost plot-wise because I didn't watch two straight-to-home-video side movies and listen to an exclusive audio book and play a video game tie-in released on the Atari Lynx, I would be rightfully pissed off and lose interest.

So as far as I know from playing the main entries in the series, Xehanort / Xemnas as they appear in KH 2 are the true main antagonists of the series. If this particular plot point goes any deeper than this without being first revealed in KH 3 (spoiler alert: I already know it does.), then the series has quite simply failed to properly deliver this aspect of the narrative.

Birth By Sleep and DDD aren't side stories though. BBS is KH0. The're just as important as 1 and 2.


That doesn't refute my point, it actually helps it. They should have been main series entries if they're so important, or they should have had their stories woven in as part of a main series title, like Roxas' intro in KH2 (another format option would have been FF 8's Laguna flashbacks). If they're too complex to fit into a main series game, then the creator / writers need to learn how to edit the fluff.

There's really no excusing shuffling vital overarching plot points into side games to the point where numbered entry-only players will be lost, and if I'm being perfectly honest, I hope KH3 gets critically eviscerated for it.
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TopicApparently Kingdom Hearts core fans hates new players to the series.
masterpug53
12/12/18 11:33:58 AM
#44
The_Scarecrow posted...
A YouTube reviewer called Angry Joe will be starting with KH3 and has said that if he doesnt understand the story, he will hold that as a negative against the game.


As well he should. Spinoff games, movies, novels, etc are meant for side stories that, while they may enhance the plot and understanding of the main series, should not be essential to said overall plot. If I go straight from Two Towers into Return of the King and am suddenly lost plot-wise because I didn't watch two straight-to-home-video side movies and listen to an exclusive audio book and play a video game tie-in released on the Atari Lynx, I would be rightfully pissed off and lose interest.

So as far as I know from playing the main entries in the series, Xehanort / Xemnas as they appear in KH 2 are the true main antagonists of the series. If this particular plot point goes any deeper than this without being first revealed in KH 3 (spoiler alert: I already know it does.), then the series has quite simply failed to properly deliver this aspect of the narrative.
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TopicNew Godzilla: King of the Monsters trailer
masterpug53
12/10/18 9:20:30 PM
#17
Call me naive, but with them bringing in other big-name monsters, it's almost mathematically impossible that the kaiju battles don't get more screentime than in the first movie.
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TopicOh dear god they showed how Sonic will look in that new movie...
masterpug53
12/10/18 12:36:15 PM
#15
Meh, the producers of this movie know that the only people still truly interested in Sonic are those that want to fuck him.
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TopicITT: Unpopular opinions
masterpug53
12/10/18 12:12:23 PM
#14
While I love Ocarina of Time, I'd probably rank it 4th or 5th on the scale of best / favorite Zelda games.
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TopicIs Skyrim on the Switch worth $25
masterpug53
12/10/18 11:39:04 AM
#18
Romulox28 posted...
absolutely not unless you do a lot of travelling & have a strong desire to play portable skyrim


This. Unless portability is a truly huge deal for you, there's no reason whatsoever to play unmodded Skyrim nowadays.

Inb4 some clever soul quotes me and edits out 'unmodded.'
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TopicDo you consider Saints Row 2...
masterpug53
12/09/18 6:43:27 PM
#2
Considering it's the only one I've played, yes.
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TopicWhat's the most cringey video game you've ever played?
masterpug53
12/09/18 2:57:44 PM
#35
I'd probably have to echo FF XIII, or at least the 2-3 hours I played of it.
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TopicFirst game that comes to mind with 'Dark' in its title?
masterpug53
12/09/18 2:54:40 PM
#30
Perfect Dark.
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TopicWhy is it in American news, if an animal is covered, it mostly white animals?
masterpug53
12/09/18 2:53:19 PM
#8
The white really 'pops' when slathered in spilled oil.
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TopicFirst thing that comes to mind when you see 'MON'?
masterpug53
12/09/18 2:38:27 PM
#4
*sigh* Pokemon.
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Topicwhoever in obsidian manage The Outer World's twitter account is fucking savage
masterpug53
12/09/18 12:48:04 PM
#28
NV at release was a nightmare, but they did a very good job fixing those issues. Compare that to Skyrim, which is still only half-fixed to this day.
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TopicI liked in LotR when they go to Morlia Mineshaft and Ganondorf says...
masterpug53
12/09/18 12:43:19 PM
#8
Too bad they got rid of Mithril armor in LotR 5: Skyrim.
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Topicwhoever in obsidian manage The Outer World's twitter account is fucking savage
masterpug53
12/09/18 12:14:54 PM
#20
Vyrulisse posted...
Also...
NOT affiliated with Obsidian. Acct ran by @4allout

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Topicwhat happens to Marvel after Endgame?
masterpug53
12/09/18 11:44:26 AM
#23
Ricemills posted...
New Game +


Be kinda boring if Thanos shows up at the beginning of Iron Man 1 with all six stones in his gauntlet.
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TopicAre we gonna talk about how The Outer Worlds is a blatant ripoff of Fallout 3?
masterpug53
12/09/18 10:57:20 AM
#15
All video games are just a ripoff of Pong. Pretty sure there were some moving squares and rectangles in that trailer, plagiarism doesn't get more blatant than that.
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TopicAre we gonna talk about how The Outer Worlds is a blatant ripoff of Fallout 3?
masterpug53
12/09/18 10:44:08 AM
#11
Yep. As soon as I saw aliens I was all like 'aw geez, Mothership Zeta 2.'
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TopicCan we all agree that the 2016 Ghostbusters was a good film?
masterpug53
12/09/18 10:41:30 AM
#8
knightoffire55 posted...
Women are smart and funny. Get over it.


This has been known since the days of Mae West, bruh.
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TopicSometimes, the internet produces visual diarrhea like Thanos
masterpug53
12/09/18 9:25:35 AM
#6
Lil' Stones
OG Croak
Dustface Killah
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TopicPost your favorite Simpsons Jokes!
masterpug53
12/09/18 9:15:58 AM
#14
Hey fattie, I got a movie for ya! A Fridge Too Far!

I don't know why but this one always puts a grin on my face.
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Topicone thing i wish final fantasy x-2 had done was SPOILERS
masterpug53
12/08/18 4:52:47 PM
#8
yusiko posted...
paine always felt like a cheap stand in for lulu that was just a gender swapped squall
i wish lulu was there


*Imagines Lulu tarting it up in some leather booty shorts right alongside Yuna and Rikku for an entire game*

*Wonders why I haven't imagined this before*

...yeah, I now hate Paine's existence.
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TopicIf you saw Rick Moranis in real life what would you ask him?
masterpug53
12/07/18 8:44:14 PM
#6
Is your Schwartz as big as mine?
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TopicJust what the fuck was in that briefcase in Pulp Fiction?
masterpug53
12/07/18 8:41:01 PM
#19
A Golden Chocobo egg.
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TopicIt was weird to watch J.K. Simmons as a calm character in I Love You, Man
masterpug53
12/07/18 8:39:59 PM
#6
He also voices Tenzin in Legend of Korra, something I didn't pick up on right away.
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Topicso they just updated Skyrim Special Edition again...
masterpug53
12/07/18 7:19:44 PM
#54
Vyrulisse posted...
Fallout 4 CC is a disgrace compared to the Skyrim one to be honest


Five bucks for a fucking FO3 / NV-era Gauss Rifle was (and I assume remains) completely inexcusable, and set the tone for my general disdain of the CC. The entirely of NV's Gun Runner's Arsenal pack with all its new weapons, ammo, challenges and perk was only four dollars.
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Topicso they just updated Skyrim Special Edition again...
masterpug53
12/07/18 4:59:24 PM
#50
TerrifyingRei posted...
so what did the update even add? bunch of Christmas themed bullshit i bet


As much as I've been opposed to CC and not been interested in their content thus far (apart from Rare Curios, which was like a crossover from a parallel universe where Bethesda's actually being competent with this shit), it looks like they've actually got some halfway decent content with this round. The Trainwiz dungeon looks like some actual meaty content, the Vigilant armor looks good, even the aforementioned Christmas-y mod has a nice outfit. They're finally taking some baby steps towards unique content instead of just rehashing items from past games.

It's all still overpriced fluff, but it's finally overpriced fluff that my hopelessly addicted ass is considering shelling out for. But I'm not spending a cent until Bethesda un-fucks its website and moves '76 to its own servers.
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TopicIs it just me or does The Outer Worlds look a bit... last gen?
masterpug53
12/07/18 8:34:36 AM
#7
008Zulu posted...
A lot of high visual games that are out these days have ball-sucking gameplay. By not focusing on graphics, the devs can work on making a good game.


This. Given the nature of this game and what I hope it will accomplish, graphics are pretty low on my priority list.
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TopicOmg obsidian making a futuristic fallout game in space called the outer worlds?
masterpug53
12/07/18 8:33:19 AM
#52
Funkydog posted...
From the makers of the ORIGINAL fallout and new Vegas.

Wonder if that was intentional shade.


IMO there's some subtler shade thrown in the 'you know you didn't have to kill him' bit, since that's contemporary Bethesda's singular answer to most moral dilemmas in their games.
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TopicIf Bethesda is so bad why didnt anyone complain about Mission Impossible Fallout
masterpug53
12/07/18 8:27:34 AM
#3
Tom Cruise is the hero the Fallout franchise needs, but sure as shit not the one it deserves.
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TopicAvengers trailer
masterpug53
12/07/18 8:17:32 AM
#6
Niiice.
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TopicOmg obsidian making a futuristic fallout game in space called the outer worlds?
masterpug53
12/07/18 12:49:30 AM
#29
Umm...

Ummm...

...holy shit, yes please.
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TopicDr Cocks was the best scrubs character
masterpug53
12/06/18 9:56:27 PM
#15
The Wheelman1 posted...
s0nicfan posted...
He was a dick.

But he's got balls.


He was always testy.
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TopicRemember the meltdowns over Metroid: Federation Force?
masterpug53
12/06/18 9:54:36 PM
#7
The only thing I remembered less than the meltdowns over Metroid: Federation Force was Metroid: Federation Force.
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TopicITT: We post Tumblr appropiate content
masterpug53
12/05/18 10:34:18 PM
#5
Female-presenting ankles.

Didn't want to risk showing any knee.
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TopicCompany Says It Will Soon Cross $100 Battery Threshold, Slaying Gas Cars
masterpug53
12/05/18 8:53:01 PM
#37
monkmith posted...
isn't lithium a stupidly limited resource that'll throttle current battery production?


Dr. Manhattan can synthesize it easily.
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TopicHave You Deeded To - Day 8 - The Legend of Zelda
masterpug53
12/05/18 8:50:50 PM
#42
I can't lie, knocking out the sexy guards in the Gerudo fort and looming over their unconscious bodies was enormous fetish fuel for me as a teen.
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TopicBethesda strikes again. Huge data breach.
masterpug53
12/05/18 8:46:02 PM
#36
UnholyMudcrab posted...
Bethesda is putting together a truly impressive string of fuckups


Why wouldn't they? They expected it to just work.
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TopicFallout 76 maintenance during peak hours.
masterpug53
12/05/18 7:59:28 PM
#2
The more often that 76 is down for maintenance, the more often I can get back to downloading Skyrim mods without issue.
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TopicGimme your Elite Four lineup
masterpug53
12/05/18 7:52:56 PM
#25
Latios
Metagross
Kyogre
Blaziken
Manectric
Ludicolo
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TopicRate this retro game #55: Star Fox 64
masterpug53
12/05/18 5:43:09 PM
#8
I went ahead and gave it a 5. It's a simple yet highly enjoyable formula that Ninty has mysteriously been unable to recreate.

Special mention goes to the game's voice acting. To those of you who didn't grow up with it, in an era when voice acting was still new (and otherwise-stellar games like Resident Evil and Symphony of the Night were memorable in this category for the wrong reasons), Star Fox 64 was one of the first major video game releases that had competent, enjoyable voice acting.
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