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Theres a distinct possibility lea floated a safelist character and in the same day they decided to claim the safelist character.

Hell I think Han said it earlier that last game puns wanted to do a bunch of dumb shit, this wouldnt be off the mark(I havent gotten around to reading last games scumboard sadly).

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

I'm not entirely convinced there is a bus driver, btw.

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

rather, not being blocked

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

because that at its core makes no sense with his claim.

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

That said, I'm going to guess someone got to it already, I didn't even realize mzero was actually here to open the day, did he answer why he questioned hb being blocked to start the day?

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Crescent-Moon posted...

Because it provides the possibility of the inventor trying to give an action to someone untargetable?

yes.

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Crescent-Moon posted...

More than one thing.

More a game fundamental thing. Its an action inherently detrimental/irritating/less compliant packaged with inventor.

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Also one thing, are people really thinking Lea is serious with the hider claim? Because there is something obviously wrong with that claim.

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Yeah actually I think Corrik is right that Lea claim is too spot on.

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

so we've been trying to assume scum shot the cop right?

So what the hell did they do with the rb in that event?

But, have a couple things on my mind to check.

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Leanansidhe posted...

Red also appears to buy the claim for ??? reasons

No, just asking necessary questions while I have a chance not full attention on game atm.

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

people floated bus driver before you claimed. Who knows too much in your opinion, mzero?

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Leanansidhe posted...

In case anyone does hammer, I am currently aimed at Red

we really shouldn't, we know mzero has time zone shenanigans.

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

directing scanners is rarely ever a good play.

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Crescent-Moon posted...

Is he... Going to do anything?

Outlook not great.

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Also part of that sentence didnt get from my brain into the sentence, you know what i mean.

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

I would be lying if I weren't running on the assumption all of your claims were nonsense, Lea.

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Before I actually get up, so many people floating bus driver is incredibly uncomfortable.

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Anyway I am tired and heading to bed. I might restlessly post from my phone while trying to sleep for awhile but that has been enough digging back for me.

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Suprak the Stud posted...

I should maybe go back and read Scare and see who else he wanted murdered. I think it was just Death and DYL.

KBM at some point, if I recall.

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

I got to some of that a bit ago. Sbell is probably town. Don't think I throw it in the 100% pile but i'm probably like 88% on it just to throw a number. 88% is good.

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Suprak the Stud posted...

Sorry I forgot to change some of the words from red's bad argument for it to make sense here. Just remove "as town this time from the second sentence".

Also that wasn't an argument in the slightest. That was literally a note of just in case and paranoia.

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Suprak the Stud posted...

I am leaving it here just on the note that so far this is the most names puns has really singled out in a post.

Just in case he tried similar again and named the entire scumteam as town this time.

Seems unlikely but I am paranoid.

Can confirm I'm town and he didnt do it here.

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

the meta was based on nothing we knew, definitely pointless. I am all for the "hey that flipped did it tell us anything I'm missing?" discussion.

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

I mean, its still very possible neither of them are neighbors and that kind of blows all thoughts up. But that isn't exactly a thought that sound reason ever moves forward on(What happens is you think one is scum, they flip not neighbor and oh hey it got blown up for you).

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Anyway, I am assuming from you both jumping on this one of you is scum that is egging the other on or both are scum. Both of you overfocusing on this and turning it into some kind of attack is just weird, tbh. Especially when it spawned from Suprak asking what actually is a worthless WIFOM scenario(We can already surmise IGCD is town based on interaction, I'm not sure at all where you were trying to go with that train of thought).

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Suprak the Stud posted...

Like you didn't say it was "worthless" you straight up said it was a trap. If it is a trap, it has zero worth on any day.

Again, this doesn't necessarily apply when things are open and on the table. Things that the host has flipped are no longer traps. Also in context, I'm asking mostly for theoreticals on flavor mostly based on what people have already posted, not things out of the blue like we were having yesterday.

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Crescent-Moon posted...

Why... Does this matter? Why is this a talking point right now instead of when the day came up?

I don't think time has anything to do with it really? Its the same talking point now as it would have been at the start?

Also suprak quoted specifically a post theorizing a neighbor being scum for being X character, but i'm not entirely sure how we reached a conclusion of x character being scum. So it stands out a bit to me.

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

theres a few things to learn, mainly, who bullshitted for a lot of content, who maybe knew too much later, etc. Its less worthless now. Not something I put a lot of stock into, but its no longer something entirely off the table.

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Suprak the logic has changed slightly because we had a flip. And I'm just wondering in part how much nonsense that flip makes a bunch of the postings from yesterday.

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Crescent-Moon posted...

Can we even be sure we have any sort of real flavor split? I don't see enough at the moment to even try to assume one.

I mean, I generally assume there is some thematic grouping to the scumteam rather than just arbitrary members.

Krusty doesn't necessarily point to a specific grouping(He could fit multiple "groups" so to speak.

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Suprak the Stud posted...

Where do I say IGCD is scum?

I'm referencing my own thoughts there. The second part is to you.

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Crescent-Moon posted...

Is this relevant?

People seem to reference it at multiple points. Seems almost entirely out of place.

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Also what exactly are we assuming for flavor split? Because Krusty flipped roleblocker, I'm not sure that points to any particular scumteam.

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Reading back puns' posts(I'm not done, but a good chunk through i think) I would be hard to be convinced IGCD isn't town. Not sure what you are trying to get at otherwise suprak.

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Suprak the Stud posted...

...you think the scum team could even *possibly* be puns/me/ben/lea?

Almost certainly not.

but the goal is never let puns get away with that again. So have to cover the option.

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

From gut, my strongest town read is suprak. Gears are turning and he's trying to solve things.

From occulam's razor, ben is town because it takes a lot of mental gymnastics to justify his behavior as anything else. Maybe he has an insane scum role but like, again, keep it simple for day 1 at least.

By extension, Lea is either utterly reckless scum (relentless face punching, claiming a flavor who is known to be a kill target) or town. Town is easier to explain at the moment.

I am leaving it here just on the note that so far this is the most names puns has really singled out in a post.

Just in case he tried similar again and named the entire scumteam as town this time.

Seems unlikely but I am paranoid.

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Did it ever track though? He was trying to get me lynched. Why the hell would he be coached into a me or him scenario in a situation we are both scum. This is the part that really doesnt make sense.

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

And again Han, those are real questions. I want your response. I don't think asking what you were thinking when you made those posts is asking too much or something irrelevant. Because the logic doesn't follow looking at them on their own.

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Its not pointless, I want to know why you posted things that don't resolve properly in my mind.

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

I already answered you by saying I didn't say that.

But you literally did also I typed a DYL where i clearly meant red.

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

So, Han, I ask, what the hell were your posts about? Because the last bit of the day has you accusing DYL of being coached(Dumb) and you accusing him of trying to start a special on someone he was actively trying to get you specifically to lynch(This is also dumb).

So han, what the hell compelled those to be your end of day comments?

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

I mean, I can tell you everyhing in my head at end of day.

you and corrik are going at each other, dyl is lynch lead. I'm not feeling great about any lynch, i've missed a lot of the day and DYL seems genuine enough(Rage has persuaded me a bit, I'm not convinced but waffling and I don't want an early hammer stealing day). Hell I admitted to you it was cowardice, I wasnt feeling scum and thus not confident at all in any decision. corrik tends to naturally turn me off of lynches early in games.

You, crescent, Suprak had shaded me. DYL, who is vote leading still, thinks you, Han, are scum. He starts trying to goad you into voting me. I think "What the fuck is this shit, he thinks that guy is scum and wants him to lynch me, that makes no goddamn sense". So I'm like "fuck it no way dude ##dyl your logic doesnt resolve in my mind". Then he comes up with his dumb claim. Which he floated first which drove me fucking crazy. No way this dude is town.

Later me realizes when he posts near deadline fuck why did you forget this was DYL hes always this bad you should know better but I couldnt take it back but I also couldnt regret it because it was goddamn awful.

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

You're also Scum literally all the time, so

Early b8 mafia days yeah. These days it tends to be scum like two games in a row followed by lots of town games.

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Anyway Han, you havent answered the specific of my question. How does you accusing DYL of trying to prevent a DYL special make sense?

He had been pushing my lynch. He triggered my vote on him. Which shortly after he came up with his suicide claim.

Hell at the same time you were accusing him of being coached. You cant have it both ways there. Say you are town, what is your thought process?

Because you had to have in your head been saying I was coaching him to set up a scenario where one of us gets killed?

You know my scum playbook is town lynch at all costs. How does that resolve in your head to end up with those comments.

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Leanansidhe posted...

It's true, Red mostly plays mafia to tell other people they're much worse at mafia

Hey I love talking mafia and mindset to people. I can't help it.

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

HanOfTheNekos posted...

Okay, this post flagged more Scummy than anything else so far for Red.

I'm not about to do the research for you. but I make posts like that literally all the time.

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

btw if DYL is reading it in dead town chat. Don't ever do what you did. If you were going to claim inventor at the end, just claim the thing. The "I'm confirmable if town just lets me live" felt like you were reaching for something there. If you just say "Sorry guys I was being an idiot I'm inventor" or something along those lines instead of looking like your fishing for emotions you are way more believable. Granted, attacking me for dumb reasons(Seriously, you were lynching han at the time and then pleaded to him to lynch me) didn't help, but it might have helped with some of the rest of the town.

But really, better idea with a confirmable role just claim the fucking thing when you have to. Scumventor doesn't do what you think it does we wouldnt have thought that.

I had a better feeling about you towards end of day til you did a pile of things too dumb for my brain to contemplate.

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

Suprak the Stud posted...

(That being said I still would rather lynch MZero at the moment as he feels like likeliest scum. But I'll reread and see how I feel after that)

Cant attach likely here. Had a scumgame where mzero was town and his participation was basically 0 until final 3. And even then the day took the full 48 hours because he was practically never online.

Odds? Possible. But I wouldnt necessarily attach likely.

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.

That said, where I am at right now, Han as scum wouldn't particularly surprise me. He hasnt had an asnwer for why he accused DYL of trying to prevent a special on me when all his actions had been trying to do the opposite.

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"First thing that crosses my mind: I didn't get any GameFAQs Karma yesterday." Math Murderer after getting his appendix removed.