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The23rdMagus posted...

Huh.

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CyricZ

The movie definitely has style and is presented well.

And I like the fact that, unlike the book, it doesn't stop every ten minutes to explain a reference. Instead a reference can slip in and slip out without having too much attention drawn to it. Except for the few parts where they DO draw too much attention to references. Iron Giant was a big one.
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CyricZ

And yet you people say the soul of the site has been stripped out. There it is right there. In the jaggedy logo. :)
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joestarrr posted...

also smoliske gives the best hugs

Expect to hear from my lawyer about the copyright infringement.
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Abyssea posted...

Adderall causes sexual harassment. Ambien causes racism. Didn't you know that? These side effects are crazy.

I was JUST GONNA MENTION the Roseanne Ambien thing, but you beat me to it lol.
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The rest of the world: this woman is committing the crime of sexual harassment.

CE: Being fat's the real crime, mirite?

Anyway, the worst part is that she's blaming her harassing on her ADHD. People with ADHD are responding with wtf lady.
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CyricZ

Where are your precious guns now, conservatives?
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Is it confirmed? Source?
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Esrac posted...

Real talk. He probably suffers from some degree of depression. Or something.

Exactly. He very likely needs help. Does he even have people in his life whom he can confide in?
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CyricZ

Well, they die. That's a thing that happens to bad people.
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voldothegr8 posted...

Milkman5 posted...

Notch as in, Markus Persson, the most famous and successful game creator of all time.

Whom I might argue is also suffering creatively. He's just not as vocal about it as Notch is. Also, Miyamoto is at the later stages of his life, whereas Notch is still relatively young.

Notch could look to philanthropy, but he's too busy with the parties and such.
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CyricZ

Oh so you just don't understand what "left" even means, so okay then.
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Esrac posted...

Laws can be wrong.

I disagree in the case of causing harm.

Animal Farm by George Orwell (1945)

One of the commandments of the society after they overthrew the humans was "No animal shall kill any other animal". After a revolution and summary execution an addendum "without cause" was added to that commandment. While the downfall of the animal society was foreseeable early on, this was the first obvious turning point.

Changing the laws of assault and murder to accommodate vigilante justice is a slippery slope that I don't care to slide down.

Fam_Fam posted...

and it is your opinion that toxic masculinity is a bigger problem, and i don't necessarily disagree. i just don't think that matters at all. both are a problem, and they are connected. both need to be fixed, together.

As I said earlier, there is already in place a societal push to address "toxic femininity". There is no such plan for toxic masculinity currently.
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SmidgeIsntBack posted...

The most famous ship in anime is the Seahorse. (Berserk)

Or perhaps it's that nice boat in School Days.

Nah, Medea had it at a Gundam ship. My personal favorite ship in anime is the Bebop. Also a freighter.
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Milkman5 posted...

it's funny how 4chan is now like an enemy of the left lol

This statement is categorically false. At the furthest left is anarchy. 4chan is the closest it gets to. Ergo, the further left you go, the more you identify with 4chan.

You just mean to say that the members of the "not quite super left" that you don't agree with don't like 4chan.

Although I wouldn't buy it from you even if you told me you were fully anarchist.
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CyricZ

Is The Matrix not full of pastiness? How come Morpheus ended up so black?

Also, the red pill/blue pill quote was spoken by Morpheus, but it was directed to Neo. Going redpill means taking the red pill, which what Neo did in the film.

Unless you're suggesting that people who redpill become the distributors of further red pills, and thus, become black.
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Hey, Knives said he'd kill all humans to make the planet safe for plants. We can't just rely on that Humanoid Typhoon to take care of it.
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I love that aspect of it.

Most famous ship in Star Trek is a government's battle-ready flagship.

Most famous ship in Battlestar Galactica is a miltary cruiser.

Most famous ship in Firefly is also a freighter.
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Milkman5 posted...

it's from the matrix

Well that explains the pastiness, the dark clothes, and the guns.
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CyricZ

"I'm not saying it" + No evidence of people saying it = You're saying it.

Also two other things:

1) Those two might be Swedish by ethnicity, but neither live in Sweden. Notch lives in California, and Pewdie lives in the UK. You don't become a Swedish leftist just by nature of your birth.

2) The other common thread between these two, apart from their ethnicity, is their affluence. So either they're redpilling because of their Swedish genes or because they're nouveau riche and fucking full of themselves.

...

3) I'm seriously responding to a Milkman topic why? I must be bored this morning.
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Who?
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Esrac posted...

Sometimes its morally justified to use violence against people who have harmed you or your family. I think so anyway.

We have these things called "laws" that disagree with you.
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...I need to know if anyone has any food allergies.
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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...

ThePrinceFish posted...

evacuating the island because a woman was climbing the statue

Jesus Christ that's unnecessary. Let the bitch fall.

I was gonna say maybe they were worried about her pulling out a gun and shooting people from there, but then I looked it up and realized people go through security screenings to get on the island. I never went through one, but the last time I went to Liberty Island was thirty years ago.
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I feel like she didn't really think this through.
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This is a blessed thing you have done.
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Fam_Fam posted...

lots of teenage girls (attempt to) commit suicide because of bullying from other girls

That's why I was careful to state "another person's" death. Toxic femininity typically doesn't kill people that aren't those that suffer from it.

Fam_Fam posted...

also many toxic behaviors by women encourage/enable toxic male behaviors (and vice versa). they are both responsible for the problems we have.

Ah, while that's an interesting point, I wasn't suggesting that women don't contribute to toxic masculinity. They very easily can. A wife who bullies her meek husband because he's not good in bed, for example.

Again, I'm not trying to cheapen these problems, but comparatively, I feel toxic masculinity has caused much greater harm, but more importantly, there's far less of a push to steer away from it.

As COVxy put it, feminism is the driving force against what would be called "toxic femininity". While I'm personally for efforts to improve the lives of men as well, there hasn't been a big societal push for it. Partly because the problems haven't been brought to any serious light, and partly because it seems that by and large men don't *want* those problems brought to serious light.
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CyricZ

My favorite thus far is Hera Syndulla. Twi'lek Rebel pilot mom extraordinaire. :D

My second favorite is Doctor Aphra. The idea of a morally ambiguous archaeologist lady who has traveled with Darth Vader is crazy enough to be awesome.
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CyricZ

It could be movies, TV, books, comics, video games. Wherever!

I'll offer mine in ten posts. :)
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Dude, you're telling me you dropped ANOTHER banana?
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OldSnakeLiveon8 posted...

I'm a true American. So I'm gonna drive my F 1-50 into an American restaurant with American waiters.

That's what I read at first.
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CyricZ

I used to read SO many more in the past.

Now I read:

Awkward Zombie
Hark! A Vagrant!
Order of the Stick
Sluggy Freelance
A Tale of Two Rulers
xkcd
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CyricZ

From behind.
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I'm playing an Australian game on a South Korean TV. You gotta diversify, man.

Granted I'm playing on a Japanese console.

EDIT: Oh oh and I've got on audio some Canadian boys playing a Japanese game.
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We can get you another banana.
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Fam_Fam posted...

i think toxic femininity IS impactful. My gf is afraid of having sex before marriage because its not in alignment with what a "good girl" should do. she knows its BS, but it still bothers her enough and she has to work through it to get herself to do things.

she also feels guilty sometimes for being a career-first person, although she's within her rights to want that.

I don't think anyone's suggesting toxic femininity can't be impactful, and it should be addressed as an aspect of mental health, but it's more about internal struggles, and less about external harmful action. Or to put it another way, I don't think toxic femininity ever led to another person's death. Comparatively, toxic masculinity is more impactful.
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tennisdude818 posted...

So if you're only referring to vigilante justice, I would agree that our legal system should discourage that. But those reckless acts don't arise from toxic gender roles, they arise from the gender role that says men should protect their family. Historically, that role has been a necessity.

So there you go. Here's the scenario:

1) Gender role: A man should protect his family.

2) Member of family is attacked.

3) Man has failed to protect his family.

4) Vigilante justice.

While #1 on its own can be considered relatively benign, when #3 and #4 happen is where toxic masculinity factors in. At #3 is the man dealing with his perception that he has failed in his manly duty to protect his family, and the need to correct that. That leads to #4, and the man feels justified with this violent action both to satisfy his own feeling of inadequacy, and the knowledge that if he does do this there will be a percentage of the population that will consider him a hero for having done so.

Here's your example of the support for vigilante justice:
https://www.change.org/p/donald-trump-petition-to-pardon-the-dad-that-killed-his-daughter-s-rapist

That's toxic masculinity. Or at least one example of it.
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tennisdude818 posted...

Yeah I would fight a guy who attacked a family member.

After the fact?

Remember, this isn't "I'll stop them while they're attacking the family member" this is "I'll track them down later to fight them."

Just want to make sure I understand your stance.
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CyricZ

While I'm sure there's a hustle going on in this topic, I appreciate the theatrics.
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But if I get hard then my weener gets chopped off.
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CyricZ

Well you clearly muddy the message when you add the adjectives "immature" and "petty".

So let's clear it up a bit.



Coward of the County: #1 country song in 1980 by the famed Kenny Rogers.

While the song starts with the message of "you don't have to fight to be a man", the song ENDS with "sometimes you have to fight when you're a man". That message being that you SHOULD fight someone if you can convince yourself it's worthwhile enough of a cause. Sure, the cause was "his wife was raped by three men", but "Tommy" could have just as easily have been murdered by those three men for trying to fist fight them for her honor. OR he could have KILLED one or more of the three men and been guilty of murder.

And look at those comments, not supporting the first anti-violence message, but supporting the later pro-violence message.

Then think about all the cases in real life where someone (a woman typically) is wronged and the boyfriend's/husband's/father's response is to haul off and beat on the perpetrator. Screw the law. Screw morals. They feel justified in leveling pain on the bad guy. Then the man is considered a hero by many for that violence.

Think about that for a bit. Really think about it.

And it's hardly the only example.
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tennisdude818 posted...

CyricZ posted...

tennisdude818 posted...

I don't think it's seen as ideal for a 35 year old breadwinner to get into fist fights (unless it's obviously warranted to do so).

You don't think fistfights happen between adults?

Did I say that?

Clearly not. You just picked a very particular situation and said "this guy isn't getting into fist fights". No reference, no citation, no reason for me to take your statement as any kind of truth. So I just offered support to suggest that adults, who may be 35-year-old breadwinners for all you know, getting into fist fights is a thing that happens.
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CyricZ

"At all?"

Then no.
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CyricZ

Why did this topic continue past Post 3?
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Are we at the "if it happened, it wasn't important" stage of Trump apology?
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tennisdude818 posted...

I don't think it's seen as ideal for a 35 year old breadwinner to get into fist fights (unless it's obviously warranted to do so).

You don't think fistfights happen between adults?

I searched "fist fight news" on Google, and the first three results it gives you reference news articles that were written in the last day. Three separate incidents. Two of them are notable because they led to shootings. The third is notable because it was a brawl between soccer fans.
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tennisdude818 posted...

I don't think you could have possibly come up with a more PC list than that.

lol dude can't refute so he insults.

I guess you really can't see toxic masculinity if you're looking through its lens.
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tennisdude818 posted...

That's why it's perfectly acceptable to feminists to say "toxic femininity" when referring to false rape accusations, lying about the father of their children, and using tears to get what they want.

The difference here is that none of those scenarios you describe are seen as "the ideal" for a woman. They're all recognized as awful behavior.

That's the distinction of toxic masculinity. Getting into a fistfight to solve your problems. Shaming someone for not being tough enough. Questioning someone's sexuality as a pejorative. All negative actions that, depending on context and culture, have been seen as positives to the male ideal.

If you're desperate for a label like "toxic femininity", may I suggest things like shaming a woman for not being "ladylike" enough. Criticizing her for working instead of supporting a family. Divorcing a husband being seen as a negative because it breaks up the family.

EDIT: Oh yeah. Slut shaming is a big one. Men are expected to spread their seed, but a woman is shamed for being sexually active in society. Can't believe I forgot that.
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dameon_reaper posted...

CyricZ posted...

Sadly, from a business standpoint, I'm sure EA did seem like a pretty safe bet. Yeah, those of us down in the trenches know the difference, but EA at the time was the #1 video game publisher in the US. Activision Blizzard has only recently surpassed them.

Any opinion on a better company? not disagreeing with you but I just want an opinion on which would have been a better company to go with. Honestly, I feel like they should have tossed Star Wars to a Japanese ran company >_> I know I'm talking out of my ass with that and it'd never happen but...lol...I'd prefer Square Enix over EA...

It's tough to say in retrospect. Remember the deal was officially announced back in mid-2013 and was probably being worked on for months prior. I have a tough time putting into my head the gaming climate at the time. Square Enix has had its own share of foibles as well. Maybe Blizzard at the time.
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