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I think it's worth pointing out that this has likely been a huge hammer of stress to your wife and right now, it's not about you. It's your job to support her.

Give her some time and then bring it up later.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

RaidenGarai posted...

This is one of the stupidest fucking things I have ever heard.

Considering the source, are you surprised?

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

People comparing John Walker to Homelander make me have no faith in other peoples' ability to analyze media.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

I voted for Zagreus but I want to switch to helicopter

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

It just seems to me that SMG went further down the on-rails hole, but it's not criticized. Which means the way SMS isn't wrong in that it doesn't allow you to get shines out of order, but that certain collectibles are instanced, which, tbf, is more of a problem. But I'm also trying to think of specific ways in which it is particularly bad. In most SMS levels, there are things that are always there. And in others, some new things appear. Are there any cases where there is an element of the stage that is present in one instance, then it's also present in the next instance without any major changes yet has a blue coin suddenly? I struggle to think of one.

I think my brain just really likes to partition off pieces of maps and devour them bit-by-bit, which is why I was fine hunting all the Korok seeds without help, and certainly I can understand that way of approaching games doesn't make for fun for most people.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Xeybozn posted...

There's nothing inherently wrong with having shines in a required order, but it leads to other minor problems. The differences between episodes mean collectables aren't always there; it's incredibly irritating to try for a 100-coin shine only to find out the episode you picked doesn't have enough coins, or to have to search every individual episode of a level to find the random blue coin you still need. And because you unlock the last boss by beating episode 7 of each level, you don't have much flexibility in choosing which shines you get. Sunshine has about 50 shines (ignoring sequence breaks) that are required no matter how much you'd rather not do them; compare that to SM64, where there's only one star that's absolutely required to beat the game normally.

Yeah, those are issues but they're fixable without allowing you to get shines in any order.

I never finished SMG, but I feel like I put the game down because it felt too on-rails? Am I wrong about that?

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

If someone is complaining about Sunshine's cameras and controls and pitching that as making it worse than SM64, then the problem is not the camera and controls (except say, FLUDD specifically).

TC didn't say a thing about SM64, but people like to celebrate SM64 while docking SMS for things it DID improve on.

And tbh, shines-out-of-order is not a complaint of much substance. The levels tend to have variation between shines and it makes much more sense from a design perspective to put them in separate instances.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Lieutenant Kasan Moor of the 128th TIE Squadron (Star Wars: Rogue Squadron)

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Anakin Skywalker (Boy)

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Biggest applause I ever witnessed was when I went to see Sucker Punch in high school.

The theater was filled. Not too sure why, but it was. Opening weekend I'm sure. Anyway, previews are on, and one comes up for this movie and I could not tell you what the movie was. Pretty uninteresting. People were just chilling in the theater, but previews are loud, so nobody was chatting. Anyway, it gets to the end of this preview and announces the name of the upcoming film, and that it will be available in 3D.

It's quiet, so my buddy beside me just loudly goes "Yeah! 3D!" Entire theater erupts in laughter, followed by applause.

He now works for NASA.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

From what I gather, clapping in theaters is a lot more common in places like LA than say, Ohio.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

BOBCATS

caps

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

The Ewok Movie

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Punnyz posted...

so we can start being in the process of me not being associated with there anymore, ya know

Raccoons it is.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

STAND UP AND CHEER
CHEER LOUD AND LONG FOR OLD OHIO
FOR TODAY WE RAISE
THE GREEN AND WHITE ABOVE THE REST
OUR (team) IS FIGHTING
AND WE'RE ABOUT TO WIN THE FRAY
WE'VE GOT THE TEAM (OH)
WE'VE GOT THE STEAM (IO)
FOR THIS IS OLD OHlO'S DAY

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

goooo bobcats

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

omg omg

LET'S GO OHIO

woooo

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

time to root for The Ohio

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

go bobcats

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Aecioo posted...

oh I guess I'll just post this here in regards to superhero shows, didn't see the last topic was about to fill

Doom Patrol is better than the Boys.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Bruh idk

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Having trouble finding the right words, but protagonist is closer I feel.

First three episodes were, sure, centered around her, but they were mostly framing devices for the show. Then the middle arc hit - at that point, it was really set as a mystery with Wanda is the primary driver of it. So at that point, she'd be as much the protagonist as group of young adults being killed off in a horror film.

Because the audience perspective is not aligned with Wanda's, Monica sort of takes the mantle in ep 4 when we actually start exploring the real plot.


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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

GameStonk posted...

$135 million for the National Endowment for the Arts
$200 million for the Institute of Museum and Library Services

In what universe are those COVID related?

If you can't figure the answer to that out yourself, you should probably stop trying to debate anything.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

I think what gets me the most is that Wanda wasn't really the protagonist for half the show, then suddenly she was. But that goes hand in hand with MCU-ing the finale, so I guess the problem is that they're afraid to break the mold too much.


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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Mr Lasastryke posted...

why is that a terrible notion? like, i'm not saying "the story doesn't make sense if she's not photon now" or whatever, just saying they've been teasing it all season so it would have made sense for them to follow up on it.

similarly, it's not like wanda "should" be called the scarlet witch. but she is now, because it's the obvious thing to do.

In universe, she's had her powers for all of two hours.


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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Wait, did he show in Iron Fist or something? I never watched past halfway through DD season 2 for the Netflix shows.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

It's been canon that there is a real Mandarin in the MCU since like, 2014.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

I have a feeling that the way the multiverse will be explained/traversed might not work out in a way that would have explained recast-Pietro when we get to it in Doctor Strange 2.

Alternatively, there is just never a multiverse in the MCU and they spend all this time hinting it just to troll us.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

tyder21 posted...

I'm 100% fine with using actors from other non-MCU superhero franchises as nothing but a wink-wink to the audience. Doesn't need to be some elaborate multiverse plot.

The problem is there is no precedent for it, either. It's not like the leader of the Avengers for over a decade of films played a different Marvel character too.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

TotallyNotMI posted...

I'd actually be okay with then as clones but isn't part of the Clone Saga that Ben Parker and the others look just like Peter? So casting them when they don't look like Holland would be weird and a bad decision.

You can't say that without seeing it.

You've been what-abouting from my point btw. The multiverse is not a plot element in this show. It has literally as much to do with Wandavision as Beta Ray Bill.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

The answer is yes, please don't do the Clone Sage (unless it's Ultimate Clone saga)

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

TotallyNotMI posted...

Tobey and Andrew Garfield are both cast in the next Spider-Man movie. If they end up as new characters that are mostly irrelevant are we saying that also is acceptable and not a bad decision?

What if there is no multiverse in Spiderman 3, and they do Clone Saga instead? Is it a bad decision that they used familiar Spidey actors to make clone Spideys instead of using them as multiverse versions?

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Exactly, zero. The multiverse is not a plot point within Wandavision. It's not an element of the story at all. Why are we upset that something that isn't a part of the show wasn't a part of the show?

Let's talk about Far From Home for a second. Multiverse theory was a major plot point of that movie. But it was also completely bullshit.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

GuessMyUserName posted...

and? why can't it be a bad decision?

Because it's just not. It was a joke. And supposedly the entire construction of the plot should be changed because people wanted it to be more than a joke.

TotallyNotMI posted...

To set those expectations for the outcome of a boner joke is just... bad.

That wasn't the joke. The joke was "She recast Pietro".

That joke ONLY works because the audience knows he was Pietro from a different series of films.

Let me reframe this with a question - in all of Wandavision, how many times was the multiverse used as a plot-point, reference, or otherwise?

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

GuessMyUserName posted...

I don't get people complaining about the obvious reaction to Ralph occurring because I find it hard to take anyone seriously if they wanna pretend it's not exactly the reaction writers were after -- we literally got Bonered.

It's the difference between "oh I would have liked this" and "wow this was a bad decision"

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

lol u mad

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

ScepterOfLove posted...

How is this even supposed to be an analogy? You do know Evan Peters literally played Quicksilver before, right?

It's called hyperbole buddy.

It just strikes me as silly that, in a show where 5 episodes were literally meta jokes on other shows, y'all getting your panties in a twist from a meta-joke.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

of all the things to criticize the show for, Evan Peters not being a multiverse Quiksilver is really low on the list. Come on guys.

I was really disappointed Darcy wasn't Beta Ray Bill in disguise, but you know, marvel gonna 'bad decisions'.

For a finale, it did fine. It was more MCU, yeah, but it delivered in a way that was better than "she flies through spaceships now". Which, really, is good on Monica, girl JUST got powers and despite her not freaking out about them, she hasn't intentionally used them once, which makes way more sense than the terrible notion that "oh yeah she *should* be Photon now" like what?

Definite vibes of Seeking a Friend for the End of the World which I enjoyed. Was actually disappointed to get only Monica and a Skrull for stinger #1, but I imagined there'd be a second stinger, only... it said just about nothing. I was hoping a stinger would be the boys coming back because Wiccan realized he had the power to write him and his brother into existence or something like that where Wanda's creations created themselves, but there's no hint of multiverse, Mephisto, anything, just "help". Meh.

Overall, it was a cute water cooler show for a month. It banked on being a mystery, did a Lost-esque arc, but didn't make it too complicated and wrapped it up cleanly, which doesn't make it a top-tier creation or anything like that, but doesn't make it suffer pitfalls of other long-running mystery shows.

My expectations for what a Disney+ MCU show would be were met. That's probably the most concise way to summarize things.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Mr Lasastryke posted...

not the first time there's been a clear dichotomy between the IMDb score and the response in this topic, either. seems like the consensus here is that episode 1 was fantastic while it has a 7.5 on IMDb, which is a good score but not an outstanding one. it's also the lowest rated episode so far.

Oh, episode 1 of Wandavision was kind of weak too. Like the most recent episode, it's absolutely necessary and the whole meal is not the same without it, but that doesn't make it too special on its own. But I think that's how I feel about the whole series.


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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Okay, finally got around to watching and catching up and stuff.

I'm going to echo the sentiments that I think it was a weak episode. Ending with "omg ur a scarlet witch" was pretty dull. Even with the scene in the middle between Wanda and Vision, as good as it was, it was... y'know, wikipedia summary paragraph.

I really think they're doing well with the miniseries format to deliver a single concise story, and I'm worried F&WS will try to be more like a tv show.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

https://board8.fandom.com/wiki/The_FINAL_Zelda_Timeline

??

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Melly Melly

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Sheena is a Punk Rocker - the Ramones

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Batman Begins should still be in lol

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Hera was my first Hades kill I think?

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Jesse_Custer posted...

Its tough to choose my favorite part of those rankings, but I think its Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer coming in at #1 and #16.

If we add that list to the composite ranking, then Scar's no. 1 isn't no. 1 overall

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

I borrowed it from a friend and lent him Spyro 2: Ripto's Rage.

Then my friend moved before we exchanged back.

I was very disappointed.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

Mr Lasastryke posted...

i've seen it ten times.

That's even stupider than thinking Ultron is a good movie.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic

CassandraCain posted...

Doing a marathon now, just finished Iron Man 3. Amazing film. Didn't like it when it first came out but it's much better on repeated viewings and with the knowledge of what happens later. Surprisingly has some of the best action scenes in the MCU as well.

Pepper KILLS a guy.

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"Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic