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TopicSchool shooting in South Florida.
hockeybub89
02/14/18 5:43:39 PM
#168
KingCrabCake posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...

KillCommunism posted...
Lol at all you edgelords having a problem with people saying "thoughts and prayers"... what the fuck?

It's a meaningless platitude that serves no useful purpose. It's practically "gesundheit".


I disagree

Are thoughts and prayers raising the dead? Are they having some kind of tangible effect on stopping school shootings?


I mean you can be obtuse all you want. Its not going to sway my opinion or belief

That is exactly the problem. We have too many beliefs and not enough doing. This poisons even people in positions of power to enact change. Just a bunch of bullshit platitudes to their constituents
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TopicSchool shooting in South Florida.
hockeybub89
02/14/18 5:39:50 PM
#153
Capn Circus posted...
You'll find most of these shooters are wacked out their mind from anti depressants. We can probably start there. We didn't have this problem 30 years ago.

You're right. They clearly aren't receiving enough medical attention. We let down our mentally ill every day.
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TopicSchool shooting in South Florida.
hockeybub89
02/14/18 5:37:15 PM
#142
KingCrabCake posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...

KillCommunism posted...
Lol at all you edgelords having a problem with people saying "thoughts and prayers"... what the fuck?

It's a meaningless platitude that serves no useful purpose. It's practically "gesundheit".


I disagree

Are thoughts and prayers raising the dead? Are they having some kind of tangible effect on stopping school shootings?
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TopicSchool shooting in South Florida.
hockeybub89
02/14/18 5:35:07 PM
#136
KingCrabCake posted...
frozenshock posted...
KillCommunism posted...
Lol at all you edgelords having a problem with people saying "thoughts and prayers"... what the fuck? It's no different than other sayings meant to show sympathy. Do you get mad when people say to sick people, "I hope you feel better". Hardly anyone takes these things as having literal changing power, and of those that do, even fewer believe the changing power these words possess are sufficient without actual action. If that were the case, we never would've made it out of the stone age.


Because after the 50th time it no longer sounds like a means to show sympathy but as a recycled phrase to be repeated ad nauseam while not being willing to do jackshit about it.

Maybe if more people believed in god and loved each other there wouldn't be so many shootings.

*holds up flame shield*

If we all loved each other, there would be no war and we'd have world peace and puppies and rainbows for days.

Everyone does not love each other and God is apparently an evil bastard if he existed, so we need to do actual things to keep society from crashing and burning. Prayers are less than wortlhless.
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TopicSchool shooting in South Florida.
hockeybub89
02/14/18 5:30:24 PM
#128
No way to prevent this says only country where this regularly happens
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TopicDemocrat campaign staffers unionize in time for 2018 elections. RIP Democrats.
hockeybub89
02/14/18 1:04:20 AM
#19
Mal_Fet posted...
Nomadic View posted...
Of course. The employer still has all the power in an employer employee relationship. The employee has rights, sure, but as far as things like forcing you to come in on your day off or working over the employer always have the upper hand. Unions help level the playing field so the employees arent taken advantage of.

If you don't want a job that can have you come in on your days off then don't accept that job....

Employer: Do what I ask and I'll pay you.
Employee: Ok.
Employer: Now do this for me.
Employee: No.
Employer: Ok, I won't pay you any more then
Union: Objection! How dare you stop paying your employee when they stop meeting the conditions under which you agreed to pay them???

Or here's a wild idea: We don't let employers fuck over their employees and we can save a lot of trouble.
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TopicDemocrat campaign staffers unionize in time for 2018 elections. RIP Democrats.
hockeybub89
02/14/18 1:01:09 AM
#17
megamanfreakXD posted...
Resident doctors work over 80 hours for week for dirt on top of debt.

These people are a bunch of bitches.

Sounds like doctors need to unionize. "These people get fucked and just deal with it" is not exactly an argument in favor of a thing.
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TopicWhat was so evil about the Confederacy again?
hockeybub89
02/14/18 12:57:12 AM
#34
TopicTHE INCREDIBLES 2.... talk about running out of ideas
hockeybub89
02/14/18 12:31:35 AM
#7
Topic3 Trump properties posted 144 openings for seasonal jobs.
hockeybub89
02/14/18 12:30:08 AM
#51
Ulyanyx posted...
>he supports people who immigrated legally

what a fucking tyrant dictator obviously guys

On what fucking planet has he been supporting immigration of any kind?
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TopicHigh school bans 'outdated and racially offensive' national anthem
hockeybub89
02/14/18 12:27:21 AM
#39
Rika_Furude posted...
They were given no choice. You should have voted in bernie. Bernie >>>>>> trash >>>> trump >>>>>> hillary

I wasn't allowed to vote in the primary and the DNC rigged it anyway.

Still, everyone has full freedom at the polls. But apparently people rebelling from the SJWs want to act like them by doing unfortunate things and blaming it on everyone else.
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TopicHigh school bans 'outdated and racially offensive' national anthem
hockeybub89
02/14/18 12:20:31 AM
#35
Bloodychess posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
NeonOctopus posted...
This is why Trump won

These student exercised their personal agency and responsibility and voted for Trump? They weren't even old enough.

this is wack even for your usual deflections

I mean. Trump won because people voted for him, apparently for various childish reasons. No one held a fucking gun to anyone's head. Anyone that says they had no choice but to vote for Trump because Hillary and SJWs is being ridiculous. I'm not talking about hardline Republicans or others who legitimately agreed with Trump's proposals. I'm talking about the children who voted Trump out of spite and then blame their decision on essjaydubyas giving them no choice. I can't believe I'm saying this, but at least actual Trump supporters have some goddamn conviction. You could vote third party, write in, or stay home. And before anyone throws a Butt Hillary, yes some people voted for that shrew for shallow reasons just like some Trump voters.
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TopicMan cleans graffiti from his building; ordered to pay "artists" $6.7M
hockeybub89
02/14/18 12:12:23 AM
#227
The Admiral posted...
Also, this isn't art.

v1a8e1e

It's art. Just art that the owner should be allowed to paint over since the art was painted without his consent.
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TopicIt seems to me that women want hookups, not love.
hockeybub89
02/14/18 12:08:29 AM
#11
TopicHigh school bans 'outdated and racially offensive' national anthem
hockeybub89
02/14/18 12:04:18 AM
#26
Rika_Furude posted...
NeonOctopus posted...
This is why Trump won

These student exercised their personal agency and responsibility and voted for Trump? They weren't even old enough.
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TopicWhat will be the Democrat's platform in 2020?
hockeybub89
02/14/18 12:02:42 AM
#2
Skye Reynolds posted...
It seems the narrative from the left right now is that America sucks

It worked for Trump
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TopicHigh school bans 'outdated and racially offensive' national anthem
hockeybub89
02/13/18 11:56:57 PM
#15
TopicAre you a communist?
hockeybub89
02/13/18 7:58:52 PM
#11
REMercsChamp posted...
Hell yeah! Where's my free video games and government handouts!

Up your ass
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TopicChildhood vaccinations should be mandatory
hockeybub89
02/13/18 4:53:23 PM
#165
TopicTrump administration wants to dictate what kind of food poor people eat
hockeybub89
02/13/18 4:51:21 PM
#295
Man. Who knew Trump was such a dirty liberal commie fascist?
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TopicTexas teacher dies from flu; she had put off buying RX due to $116 copay
hockeybub89
02/13/18 3:34:02 AM
#195
FLUFFYGERM posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
KobeSystem posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
SK8T3R215 posted...
Holland fell ill about a week ago and planned to pick up flu medication but felt the $116 copay was too high, her husband said.

Frank Holland bought the prescription himself when he found out, but things worsened.


So they ended up getting it anyway...?


careful, don't post facts that detract from Anifar's narrative, he'll abandon the topic


@FLUFFYGERM is that a Mr feeny quote in your sig


@Antifar its sad how true fluffys statement was


I've seen it so many times. He posts garbage and gives it a far left spin so he can shill for Marxism (because he literally said he is a communist) and then abandons the topic when facts are brought in.

Often times he purposely ignores the parts of the article that add absolutely crucial context, not bolding those parts or not even including them in the paste.

I've called him out on it multiple times and he has never said he's wrong. Yet the usual suspects eat it all up.

A woman refused medicine because of sticker shock. This is a real, fairly common thing. And that hesitation may or may not have contributed to her demise. What facts are being ignored by TC? But don't let that stop you from expressing your commiephobia everywhere you go.

Also, why does a famous ghost like you think he can talk about people ghosting? Exactly how many people on this board majored in lack of self-awareness?
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TopicWhen was the last time you vomited?
hockeybub89
02/12/18 11:01:38 PM
#60
Like a month ago when I had gastroenteritis. It was the first, second, third, fourth, and fifth time I had hurled in probably a decade or more.
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TopicWhy doesn't the urban community embrace Blade?
hockeybub89
02/12/18 10:43:22 PM
#12
SSJ2GrimReaper posted...
hightcontrast posted...
Kineth posted...
FightingGames posted...
urban community

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TopicObama's official portrait unveiled
hockeybub89
02/12/18 10:34:40 PM
#160
TopicThe difference between the Prequels and the JJ Abrams trilogy
hockeybub89
02/12/18 10:33:17 PM
#3
The new movies are objectively better works of cinema than the prequels. They aren't perfect and are sometimes stupid as hell, but they are better movies. The old movies have mediocre acting at their best moments and look ugly even for early 2000s movies. They've aged worse than the OT as illogical as that sounds.

A lot of Star Wars fans were just kids back then that had a lot of toys from the prequels and see them through nostalgia goggles. You can't even really make some argument that "at least they had soul" because George Lucas gave as few fucks as Peter Jackson did doing The Hobbit. And like those movies, it is a mystery where the hell all that budget went? Craft services? So they stuck closer to canon. Whoop de doo. We all know that is 95% of what makes a movie good /sarcasm.

I don't even know where this hate boner that everything Disney corporate touches is shit came from given the MCU and the majority of Pixar and Disney Animation movies. Is it some misplaced notion that everything Disney does is dumb shit for stupid little kids and Star Wars is serious adult business?
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Topic"Wow the reviews for Black Panther are so overwhelmingly positive"
hockeybub89
02/12/18 1:12:27 AM
#49
TopicBlack Panther's Daniel Kaluuya says he is not the spokesperson for black people.
hockeybub89
02/11/18 11:40:08 PM
#7
He's right. Individuals have no responsibility to be spokespeople for entire demographics.
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TopicTexas teacher dies from flu; she had put off buying RX due to $116 copay
hockeybub89
02/11/18 11:30:09 PM
#144
Questionmarktarius posted...
byrone posted...
But that's the thing with medicine. People can't just boycott it because they need it to survive.

But, there's very rarely exactly one drug available for any given condition.

There aren't many options with Tamiflu at the moment. There are other drugs with limited generics or no generics at the moment. Alternatives aren't always exactly same and could just be in the related family. The patient may only be having success with some certain version of a drug. Insurance may have a strict formulary, sometimes even preferring brand. Etc etc etc.

Pharmaceuticals are not always something where the consumer can speak with their wallet. The very problem here is people avoiding treatment because they try to do so.

People need their medicine now, not in the future when the market hopefully works in their favor
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TopicTexas teacher dies from flu; she had put off buying RX due to $116 copay
hockeybub89
02/11/18 11:16:16 PM
#136
MrPeppers posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
"$116? Fuck that!" is a perfectly reasonable response.


Do you think that if she perceived influenza to be an actual threat to herself the response would have been the same? I'm not detracting from the high expense of medications and healthcare in general, but there are 2 problems going on here. There's the cost of healthcare, and the reckless attitude people have towards their own health that helps drive up the cost of healthcare.

The former doesn't help the latter. It is a vicious cycle. The pricier medications or doctor's visits are, the more likely people are to put them off. I see this all the time at work. People will go home and look for coupons or try to get a 2nd opinion from their doctor, or just flat give up if they hear some high copay. It doesn't matter if they are dirt poor, filthy rich, or in between. If they aren't at risk of immediate serious harm, they will typically walk away empty handed.

And this isn't to you, but funny that the same people who go on about people keeping their wealth are okay with everyone getting fleeced by pharmaceutical companies if they have the disposable income to pay the exorbitant fees. It is apparently perfectly acceptable to get fucked as long as the person doing the fucking doesn't get paid by Uncle Sam.
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TopicWhy is talking about Hillary Clinton off limits?
hockeybub89
02/11/18 11:07:15 PM
#23
CarlGrimes posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
even though the majority of us her never liked her.

You let her rig the primaries. Sure you didn't like her.

I was unaware I worked for the DNC. No wonder I keep getting strange phone calls asking why I keep missing work.
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TopicTexas teacher dies from flu; she had put off buying RX due to $116 copay
hockeybub89
02/11/18 11:04:55 PM
#132
Questionmarktarius posted...
"$116? Fuck that!" is a perfectly reasonable response.

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TopicTexas teacher dies from flu; she had put off buying RX due to $116 copay
hockeybub89
02/11/18 11:01:35 PM
#131
r4X0r posted...
https://schools.texastribune.org/districts/weatherford-isd/bose-ikard-elementary-school/

Bose Ikard Elementary School
Elementary school in Weatherford ISD
Weatherford, TX
Pre-kindergarten - 6th grade

An average teacher's salary was $53,181, which is $656 more than the state average.

So this woman made decent money, and this is an inexpensive area. Before we go "Hurrr capitalism is evil we need the government to step in and screw everything up!" let us just consider that she was too cheap to buy the medicine, not too poor.

But what if she was too poor? Over $100 for a single prescription is not something that can be swung by everyone. Would this story suddenly make you go "Capitalism is evil" or whatever you think people are telling you to think? Or are you just pointing out she personally probably could have afforded it to avoid the issue of medicine being very expensive?
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TopicWhy is talking about Hillary Clinton off limits?
hockeybub89
02/11/18 10:56:01 PM
#11
TopicChildhood vaccinations should be mandatory
hockeybub89
02/11/18 10:53:13 PM
#164
Knowledge_King posted...
Because once the Gov't can force you to be injected with a substance, nothing stops things like sexual and hunger repression (military gets them), things like a kill chip, possible injection of a disease into a race of people they dislike (they've literally done this by the way), and possible assassination

What if the pharmaceutical companies and the entire healthcare profession are already doing this RIGHT NOW? It only gets scary when laws become involved? How terrified of you are of the inevitable fascism caused by the health and safety regulations that exist at this very moment? Slopes are only as slippery as you allow them to be.

It's this simple. I don't think putting your children and the rest of the population at risk of preventable, communicable diseases is some kind of unalienable personal right. How is it any different than abuse or assault?

Now maybe Proudclad can bounce back with some "What's next? Forcing people to eat healthy, exercise, and not watch TV or play video games? Mandatory worshipping of Mommy Government every hour?" nonsense that almost resembles sane thought.
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TopicChildhood vaccinations should be mandatory
hockeybub89
02/11/18 10:41:11 PM
#161
FLUFFYGERM posted...
MrPeppers posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...


I don't think that anti-vaxxers pose a real and recurring threat to national health right now. If that ever changes I'd be glad to mandate vaccinations as an emergency response. But to make it part of the government's responsibilities would be a horrifying step in the wrong direction.

If you're that concerned about public health, obesity is by far the bigger issue no pun intended.


I completely agree, but we can work on both of those areas simultaneously.


Yeah but note how the fascists never say anything about working on both areas simultaneously. In fact, people like TC explicitly denounced the idea of forcing obese people to exercise when I brought it up in the past as a devil's advocate.

This isn't about public health to the fascists. It's about another means through which the State can attain absolute control over every area of our lives.

Remember when you at least pretended to be intelligent? Now you're calling me a government stooge helping the state obtain its goal of complete fascism.
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TopicWaitress fired over post after saying she wasn't tipped on $735 take out order
hockeybub89
02/11/18 5:52:24 PM
#27
The Mega Cheat posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
I tip for sitdown or delivery, not for pickup. What's next, tipping the fast food drive through window?

Ever ordered almost $1k worth of takeout?

You should probably tip.

Seriously. That is an incredible undertaking for a restaurant.
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TopicModes/features that should be in more games
hockeybub89
02/11/18 5:51:04 PM
#4
There was this multiplayer mode in Red Faction Guerilla where two people competed to destroy the most environment with certain weapons in a certain timeframe. It also had a version in singleplayer. I guess that segues into true destruction needing to be in more games that advertise destructible environments.
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TopicShould the United States have used nuclear weapons on Japan?
hockeybub89
02/11/18 5:41:01 PM
#38
Imagine still parroting revisionist history in the year of no lord 2018.
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TopicTexas teacher dies from flu; she had put off buying RX due to $116 copay
hockeybub89
02/11/18 5:35:00 PM
#69
MrPeppers posted...
DepreceV2 posted...
SaltyWet posted...
How does a school teacher not have 100% coverage?


100% coverage for everything is practically non existent. Trust me. I have worked retail Pharmacy for over 5 years. Tamiflu has always been expensive for practically every insurance outside of Medicaid. Medicare was excluded from that sentence for a reason.


It went generic recently though didn't it?

Generic doesn't always mean inexpensive
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TopicDemocrat bill: Federal charges for anyone who attacks a reporter
hockeybub89
02/11/18 5:32:27 PM
#42
Capn Circus posted...
Dems got to protect their partners

wtf now we like people getting assaulted over saying things we don't like
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TopicWaitress fired over post after saying she wasn't tipped on $735 take out order
hockeybub89
02/11/18 5:29:04 PM
#7
TopicHospitals need to let Natural Selection happen sometimes
hockeybub89
02/11/18 5:24:57 PM
#34
DepreceV2 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
You should try a more appropriate field for your heartless ways. Like insurance or politics.


It's funny. People like you who never worked on that situation will never understand unless you experience it.

Nah. People that think like you should definitely not be in the field. If you say most are like that, then all that means is the medical field is poisoned and needs an overhaul, or a culling. If teachers started mentally abusing their students in droves, it doesn't make that behavior acceptable for that job. This is like when people say we need to accept the bad cops with the good because otherwise there would not be enough cops. No thanks with that bullshit.
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TopicTexas teacher dies from flu; she had put off buying RX due to $116 copay
hockeybub89
02/11/18 5:18:30 PM
#67
SaltyWet posted...
How does a school teacher not have 100% coverage?

I see quite a few teachers and their families from two counties fill prescriptions at my pharmacy without 100% coverage.
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TopicTexas teacher dies from flu; she had put off buying RX due to $116 copay
hockeybub89
02/11/18 5:09:13 PM
#61
scorpion41 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
scorpion41 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
scorpion41 posted...
ScazarMeltex posted...
scorpion41 posted...
Tamiflu was $35 with insurance when I had to get it so someone is full of shit.

Plus, to all the pro-vaccine people trolling anti-vaccine people, the flu shot was only about 10% effective this year according to my doctor and I got it despite the vaccine. First time in my life with the flu...


Wow it's almost like people have different insurance plans and thus prices might be different for different people.


Wow no plans offered by school districts offer 0% coverage on prescription medicines.

Many people pay over $100 with insurance for Oseltamivir. I don't know what to tell you.


Then theyre not covered by their insurance because thats pretty much 100% of the cost.

They are presented with a copay after the Rx is processed through their active insurance plan. Something is being covered.


When you pay the whole cost of something your plan didnt cover anything. $100+ is the cost of the medication without insurance, prices vary by pharmacy. Plans cover at least 60% of the costs of prescriptions. By your description, the antiviral would cost over $200, which would be inaccurate.

Well then you've uncovered a massive insurance fraud scheme perpetuated by major insurance providers. I can only relay my own work experience. I imagine these costs would drop later in the year, but most people have to meet deductibles during the time when flu season is in full swing.
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TopicHospitals need to let Natural Selection happen sometimes
hockeybub89
02/11/18 5:02:16 PM
#24
You should try a more appropriate field for your heartless ways. Like insurance or politics.
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TopicDemocrat bill: Federal charges for anyone who attacks a reporter
hockeybub89
02/11/18 5:00:31 PM
#29
fenderbender321 posted...
If the reporter is being aggressive and shoving a microphone in somebody's face repeatedly in an obvious attempt to try and antogonize somebody (like what happened over in montana) is a different situation though.

You can't hit people for being annoying.
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TopicShould the United States have used nuclear weapons on Japan?
hockeybub89
02/11/18 4:58:41 PM
#10
Probably not, but hopefully it will continue to keep us from doing it again.
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TopicAnthem Inc. to give $1,000 to 58,000 current and former employees amid tax bill.
hockeybub89
02/11/18 4:54:35 PM
#22
TopicGreg Gutfeld says Trump's presidency is like an amusement park that never closes
hockeybub89
02/11/18 4:38:38 PM
#2
Topicwho else here thinks Attack of the Clones was better than any Disney Star Wars
hockeybub89
02/11/18 4:07:14 PM
#16
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