Poll of the Day > Game of thrones Discussion topic.

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Mead posted...

You must be fun at parties

At least I don't say unoriginal, inane crap like "you must be fun at parties". After about the 700 millionth time that line has been used in place of "I have nothing to add to this discussion so I'm going to go for a lazy personal attack" it kind of loses its impact.

EightySeven posted...

Mead posted...

You must be fun at parties

At least I don't say unoriginal, inane crap like "you must be fun at parties". After about the 700 millionth time that line has been used in place of "I have nothing to add to this discussion so I'm going to go for a lazy personal attack" it kind of loses its impact.

You just said it though
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I'm surprised it took until the end of season 7.

That scene was great. Littlefinger is such a snake. As soon as things get bad he's on the floor begging
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Blightzkrieg posted...

I would actually think getting kneed there would end up hurting a lot. From what I understand your crotch has a lot of nerves even excluding the testicles, and while we haven't seen his naughties in detail I would think the remains might still be really sensitive.

After enough groin shots you start to need a heel.
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Kimbos_Egg posted...

eating4fun posted...

That scene with littlefinger was probably the best of the entire season.

pfft. All the pointless filler led up to that? What a waste.

Most of this episode felt like filler unfortunately, but my favorite part was cersei's face when she saw the wight.

Having the character that basically single-handedly orchestrated the entire chain of events of the whole show finally be boxed into a corner and meet his end in a blindside is "filler"? Sheesh, you guys are silly.

I actually mused back around episode 1 that the path of the remaining characters seemed obvious to me, save for what Littlefinger would do, since he didn't seem to have a clear purpose like the rest. Guess I was right.

The total lack of major deaths seemed very un-GoT this season.

I mean, it's been completely obvious that everyone that was left by the start of this season was important enough to make it to the very end of the saga for the final battle. Like I said, Littlefinger was the only real outlier, and that question just got answered.
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Kimbos_Egg posted...

https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/6wggrg/spoilers_extended_the_books_already_told_us_that/

The first two were revealed in Season 7 Episode 5 when gilly was reading from the book.

Mead posted...

Beric, who even cares

The Lord of Light, probably.

eating4fun posted...

That scene with littlefinger was probably the best of the entire season.

Not compared to the Littlefinger scene this season was when Bran tells him that "Chaos is a ladder" and Littlefinger's smile vanishes. While that might have built to the final moments, it seemed a more epic moment.

Kimbos_Egg posted...

eating4fun posted...

That scene with littlefinger was probably the best of the entire season.

pfft. All the pointless filler led up to that? What a waste.

Not really filler but yeah, the payoff was really weak. The only plus was that he was called out on everything he did... although, again, given how central he was to pretty much everything, it just made the sendoff seem weaker.

I imagine the books will handle things differently there.

Doctor Foxx posted...

I'm surprised it took until the end of season 7.

I'm surprised it didn't run longer. Granted, sooner or later one of his gambits was going to fail.
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Why didn't bran know that already?
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Kimbos_Egg posted...

eating4fun posted...

That scene with littlefinger was probably the best of the entire season.

pfft. All the pointless filler led up to that? What a waste.

Most of this episode felt like filler unfortunately, but my favorite part was cersei's face when she saw the wight.

The best part was the mini promo for the clegane bowl
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Anyone find it weird that despite being Jon's aunt, Dany is the same age as Jon? (In terms of actors' age). In some ways, Dany looks younger than Jon <_<

Metro2 posted...

Anyone find it weird that despite being Jon's aunt, Dany is the same age as Jon? (In terms of actors' age). In some ways, Dany looks younger than Jon <_<

I think in the book she might be younger? I can't remember. But there was a big age gap between her and her brother. She was a baby at the end of Robert's Rebellion, which is when Jon was born. Her brother Rhaegar was a young adult at the time (or he may have actually been a teenager, because people come of age earlier in ASoIaF). But regardless they're supposed to be really close in age.

Metro2 posted...

Anyone find it weird that despite being Jon's aunt, Dany is the same age as Jon? (In terms of actors' age). In some ways, Dany looks younger than Jon <_<

Not at all. There are real life cases of aunts/uncles being same age or younger than the niece/nephew. Some parents could have had a kid in the early years and well later in their lives have another child. By around then the first kid(s) might also have their first child.
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Metro2 posted...

Anyone find it weird that despite being Jon's aunt, Dany is the same age as Jon? (In terms of actors' age). In some ways, Dany looks younger than Jon <_<

A friend of mine has an uncle that is 5 years younger than him. It happens.

InfestedAdam posted...

Metro2 posted...

Anyone find it weird that despite being Jon's aunt, Dany is the same age as Jon? (In terms of actors' age). In some ways, Dany looks younger than Jon <_<

Not at all. There are real life cases of aunts/uncles being same age or younger than the niece/nephew. Some parents could have had a kid in the early years and well later in their lives have another child. By around then the first kid(s) might also have their first child.

Pretty much this. I knew kids who were aunts and uncles in early Elementary school. It's not too much of a stretch.
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Metro2 posted...

Anyone find it weird that despite being Jon's aunt, Dany is the same age as Jon? (In terms of actors' age). In some ways, Dany looks younger than Jon <_<

i have an aunt in my family who's almost 30 years older than her uncle.
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So whats the deal with the mountain exactly. They've never really explained that. He's like a half sentient zombie I guess? He's obviously aware and can understand what people are saying but he's mute and seems to have no will of his own now

Metro2 posted...

Anyone find it weird that despite being Jon's aunt, Dany is the same age as Jon? (In terms of actors' age). In some ways, Dany looks younger than Jon <_<

Not at all, my half-brother is 5 years older than my son.
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OhhhJa posted...

So whats the deal with the mountain exactly. They've never really explained that. He's like a half sentient zombie I guess? He's obviously aware and can understand what people are saying but he's mute and seems to have no will of his own now

He was always blindly loyal to the Lannisters. I think he's just incapable of speech due to whatever happened to him so he just does what they say so he can rape and kill.

Blightzkrieg posted...

OhhhJa posted...

So whats the deal with the mountain exactly. They've never really explained that. He's like a half sentient zombie I guess? He's obviously aware and can understand what people are saying but he's mute and seems to have no will of his own now

He was always blindly loyal to the Lannisters. I think he's just incapable of speech due to whatever happened to him so he just does what they say so he can rape and kill.

Ahhh ok. I just wanted to be sure he's fully aware when the hound kills him

I'm just guessing. It's not like he had an assload of personality to begin with. He doesn't seem the kind of person to care about who kills him.

The showing of the wight was really the only good scene imo. Luckily, it's like 25 mins long.

I also kinda liked the Theon bit. Let's fucking hope he does something in these last 6 episodes.

The Littlefinger thing felt so rushed and amateur. What a pathetic way to go out for one of the smarter characters in the show.

I also hate how they pull that "lie to the viewer" and hide things just to pull a surprise twist. We even had scenes with Arya and Sansa by themselves, in a locked room, playing out a fake argument last episode...for who? For us? Makes no sense

FrozenBananas posted...

The Littlefinger thing felt so rushed and amateur. What a pathetic way to go out for one of the smarter characters in the show.

To be fair, the last two seasons in their entirety didn't really do him justice as the 'one of the smartest characters in the show'. Honestly, I didn't expect much else.

FrozenBananas posted...

I also hate how they pull that "lie to the viewer" and hide things just to pull a surprise twist. We even had scenes with Arya and Sansa by themselves, in a locked room, playing out a fake argument last episode...for who? For us? Makes no sense

I assume that it was meant to be real, and only recently did Sansa realize what Littlefinger was doing based on his own reasoning(assume the worst about people, etc. Which was really stupid for someone who was basically doing the worst), and apparently was informed more by it by Bran off-screen, and told Arya off-screen too.
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FrozenBananas posted...

The Littlefinger thing felt so rushed and amateur. What a pathetic way to go out for one of the smarter characters in the show.

Show Littlefinger has been a pale imitation since basically the second season. I've long made my peace with the fact that he's never get a good conclusion in the show.

Blightzkrieg posted...

FrozenBananas posted...

The Littlefinger thing felt so rushed and amateur. What a pathetic way to go out for one of the smarter characters in the show.

Show Littlefinger has been a pale imitation since basically the second season. I've long made my peace with the fact that he's never get a good conclusion in the show.

Getting killed by Arya is probably the best conclusion, unceremonious as it was.
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What was Littlefinger's endgame though? To slowly scheme his way to the Iron Throne through the shadows?
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Tropic_Sunset posted...

Blightzkrieg posted...

FrozenBananas posted...

The Littlefinger thing felt so rushed and amateur. What a pathetic way to go out for one of the smarter characters in the show.

Show Littlefinger has been a pale imitation since basically the second season. I've long made my peace with the fact that he's never get a good conclusion in the show.

Getting killed by Arya is probably the best conclusion, unceremonious as it was.

I don't think him being killed by Arya is bad. It might happen in the books. It's either gonna be supernatural shit, Sansa, Varys, or some combination of the three. It's just that he hasn't done anything impressive in ages and got killed doing the dumbest most inconsequential scheme imaginable.

At this point it's just the details. Everything is connecting together more or less as you'd expect (I suspect the books will/would be a lot messier and more intricate at this point) but the details leave a lot of characters feeling barebones.

The show spent so many seasons going through the story at a snail's pace, now they are left tying it together. The writers would have really paced other things better. I guess they didn't want to drag the undead war out for too many seasons, but that's the big action and now there's only six episodes left to resolve things.
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Doctor Foxx posted...

The show spent so many seasons going through the story at a snail's pace, now they are left tying it together. The writers would have really paced other things better. I guess they didn't want to drag the undead war out for too many seasons, but that's the big action and now there's only six episodes left to resolve things.

I suspect if the last two (three?) books had been published by now it would be different. But it's been like 7 years and no perceivable progress on that front. So we're gonna get an Avengers style team up and mostly happy ending I suspect, with a lot of minor characters killed off for shock value.

I imagine that going into the series they may have anticipated one more book getting finished. There's 2 left to wrap it up. GRRM had a lot of time to get his shit together for the television plot and pacing. It's all kind of sloppy.

And that was what I wondered about it when I saw season 1 in... 2012? There's so much unpublished, how are they going to finish it? I guess they didn't think about it much either.
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Doctor Foxx posted...

I guess they didn't want to drag the undead war out for too many seasons, but that's the big action and now there's only six episodes left to resolve things.

The worst part is they didn't resolve either war. Now they have 6 episodes to resolve 2 major wars. Season 8 is going to feel even more rushed than season 7.

Well they've been putting a lot of effort into getting everyone in the same place, so I don't think the actual show pacing will feel off. Even this season was basically boiled down to Dragonstone, King's Landing and Winterfell. Next season you're going to have almost everybody at Winterfell plus Cersei and Qyburn at King's Landing.

Duck-I-Says posted...

Doctor Foxx posted...

I guess they didn't want to drag the undead war out for too many seasons, but that's the big action and now there's only six episodes left to resolve things.

The worst part is they didn't resolve either war. Now they have 6 episodes to resolve 2 major wars. Season 8 is going to feel even more rushed than season 7.

Maybe they will all be extra long episodes like this one.

To later be followed up with film adaptations (probably a trilogy) that will condense everything into less than half a season's worth of screen time.
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Blightzkrieg posted...

I don't think him being killed by Arya is bad. It might happen in the books. It's either gonna be supernatural shit, Sansa, Varys, or some combination of the three. It's just that he hasn't done anything impressive in ages and got killed doing the dumbest most inconsequential scheme imaginable.

Agreed/ He hasn't done shit in ages and I fucking hate that. How do you go from one of the most intelligent manipulative characters to dying without any real conclusion over two fucking years? It's bullshit, but it's also the best we could hope for given the last two seasons.

Doctor Foxx posted...

The writers would have really paced other things better.

Don't get me started. It's ridiculous how much they are obviously trying to play catch up. I don't care about the fast travel shit and this season bothered my on that alone.

Blightzkrieg posted...

So we're gonna get an Avengers style team up and mostly happy ending I suspect, with a lot of minor characters killed off for shock value.

Oh please, a lot of major deaths are going to happen in the last season, since they don't really matter to the story anymore.

Doctor Foxx posted...

And that was what I wondered about it when I saw season 1 in... 2012? There's so much unpublished, how are they going to finish it? I guess they didn't think about it much either.

2011. But apparently they know the general direction. Which I find increasingly disappointing. Episode 4 of this season was good, the rest I could take or leave.
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Everyone teleporting but Sam. He ain't been to enough areas yet
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Tropic_Sunset posted...

2011. But apparently they know the general direction. Which I find increasingly disappointing. Episode 4 of this season was good, the rest I could take or leave.

I mean I watched season 1 in 2012. And then only watched the rest of the series a few months ago. Even way back then that was my concern.

Tropic_Sunset posted...

Don't get me started. It's ridiculous how much they are obviously trying to play catch up. I don't care about the fast travel shit and this season bothered my on that alone.

It's pretty bad this season. I wish they didn't spend so much time with those sand snakes
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Doctor Foxx posted...

I mean I watched season 1 in 2012. And then only watched the rest of the series a few months ago. Even way back then that was my concern.

No one can deny it's been increasingly disappointing. The entire theme has changed.

Doctor Foxx posted...

It's pretty bad this season. I wish they didn't spend so much time with those sand snakes

They didn't even spend that much time on the sand snakes this season!

I was actually okay with the amount of focus on them this season. It was minimal, and the ones that died (on screen) were at least given a fighting chance. But Euron lived because fuck if I know. Weren't they supposed to be fantastic warriors?
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Tropic_Sunset posted...

But Euron lived because fuck if I know. Weren't they supposed to be fantastic warriors?

Plot armor.
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Melon_Master posted...

Tropic_Sunset posted...

But Euron lived because fuck if I know. Weren't they supposed to be fantastic warriors?

Plot armor.

Fan armor tbh.
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Tropic_Sunset posted...

They didn't even spend that much time on the sand snakes this season!

I was actually okay with the amount of focus on them this season. It was minimal, and the ones that died (on screen) were at least given a fighting chance. But Euron lived because fuck if I know. Weren't they supposed to be fantastic warriors?

In earlier seasons. Maybe it was in the books that way? I don't know. But it felt like a dead end plotline and slowed down everything with Daenerys and her party

Tropic_Sunset posted...

No one can deny it's been increasingly disappointing. The entire theme has changed.

I've liked a lot about the newer seasons (compared to 1 or 2). But the writing has largely suffered.
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Doctor Foxx posted...

In earlier seasons. Maybe it was in the books that way? I don't know. But it felt like a dead end plotline and slowed down everything with Daenerys and her party

I really think that's my main problem with it too. It felt like things were slowed down.

Doctor Foxx posted...

I've liked a lot about the newer seasons (compared to 1 or 2). But the writing has largely suffered.

Did you like season 5 and 6 compared to 2 and 3? Because I'd have to disagree unless we are talking about the last 3 or so episode in those seasons.
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Wasn't a huge fan of 2, and 3 was great. 5 was not great but a season with stand out moments. 6 was a high caliber season.

5 and 2 are my least favorite seasons. Dorne and Qarth Ugh

1 and 4 were ok

3 and 6 best seasons.

After more thought I'd rank 4 with the best ones as well. There wasn't anything too bad about it and a lot happened. It was the last good season that had all the source material to work with.
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Tropic_Sunset posted...

Oh please, a lot of major deaths are going to happen in the last season, since they don't really matter to the story anymore.

Dany, Arya, Sansa, Tyrion and Sam are 100% safe I think. Jon and Jaime might die. Cersei will definitely die. Everybody else will probably die in a really unsatisfying way.

500??a
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