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TheManaSword
02/08/23 9:14:37 AM
#202:


pls no be mean to video game :(

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xenosaga
02/08/23 9:16:00 AM
#203:


So basically this topic is, everything and anything Harry Potter related is tainted and should be treated like leprosy no matter the quality of the product

You finally figured it out, bravo! Then you went on some weird rant, but we'll just ignore that part.

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MoogleKupo141
02/08/23 9:25:52 AM
#204:


xenosaga posted...
So basically this topic is, everything and anything Harry Potter related is tainted and should be treated like leprosy no matter the quality of the product

You finally figured it out, bravo! Then you went on some weird rant, but we'll just ignore that part.

yeah why would the quality of the product be relevant here

like somehow its more ok to support this shitty person if the thing they made is really good?


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MoogleKupo141
02/08/23 9:43:30 AM
#205:


also I just went back and read through Axls stuff and this line is probably the dumbest thing hes said

Having inexplicably biased agendas against successful high profile video game releases,


the agenda is extremely explicable! People have been very vocal in this topic and elsewhere about their specific grievance with the creator of this franchise! Its so straightforward, how could you be all confused about it?

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kevwaffles
02/08/23 9:44:42 AM
#206:


MoogleKupo141 posted...
yeah why would the quality of the product be relevant here

like somehow its more ok to support this shitty person if the thing they made is really good?
"But you see I only want to make a sacrifice when I don't have to give up something that matters to me."

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TheManaSword
02/08/23 9:48:41 AM
#207:


MoogleKupo141 posted...
also I just went back and read through Axls stuff

is this a cry for help


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MoogleKupo141
02/08/23 9:54:43 AM
#208:


TheManaSword posted...
is this a cry for help

im not well

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LiquidOshawott
02/08/23 9:55:12 AM
#209:


Axl Rose really is just Axl Rose

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Axl_Rose_85
02/08/23 10:00:42 AM
#210:


Lmao at these last few posts holy shit

I seem to have struck a nerve with some people here when nothing I have said has supported JK Rowling's views on her issues but I should known it would devolve into that regardless.

And before I burst someone's blood vessels from anger in real life because I assume a lot of you are not in the most optimal physical health just like your clearly poor mental health and also honestly because I don't have the energy to reply to all the various hate posts (like wow dudes) directed at me, I will call it a day and bid you lovely people on this topic adieu.

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UshiromiyaEva
02/08/23 10:02:54 AM
#211:


I don't think he expected that he wouldn't be suspended by this point, and now he's not sure what to do.

There was no plan!

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NFUN
02/08/23 10:08:28 AM
#212:


smacks own head with hammer repeatedly

hah, sure showed them! look how mad those fat losers are!

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masterplum
02/08/23 10:09:17 AM
#213:




If you think the reactions are inexplicable then you have absolutely no human empathy whatsoever and it is a complete waste talking to you

There is absolutely no point because you are galaxies away from common ground.

"This person who wrote Harry Potter said things that hurt people therfore popular Harry Potter thing stings a bit"

This is logic my one year old could put together

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masterplum
02/08/23 10:12:12 AM
#214:


Oh I didn't even get to the part where he called everyone fat.

We gonna start talking about how much money we make next? Dick sizes? Anything else you are interested in that is completely irrelevant to the conversation that helps you pretend you aren't a loser?

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htaeD
02/08/23 10:16:26 AM
#215:


Classy exit that guy had, calling everyone else mentally ill.

Is he secretly Darksydephil?

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MoogleKupo141
02/08/23 10:25:36 AM
#216:


lol what a piece of shit

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kevwaffles
02/08/23 10:28:47 AM
#217:


He's not all bad. He really gives us all common ground. Granted that common ground is in agreeing how much he sucks, but still!

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Thorn
02/08/23 10:40:44 AM
#218:


masterplum posted...
Anything else you are interested in that is completely irrelevant to the conversation that helps you pretend you aren't a loser?
damn i'm ready for this competition

i beat souls games without summons
i beat genichiro first try, get good losers
i bet you can't beat ocarina of time in under 40 minutes scrub

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NFUN
02/08/23 10:54:55 AM
#219:


i can name the composer of every phantasy star online 2 song

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Grimlyn
02/08/23 11:01:25 AM
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neonreaper posted...
I get the emotions about JK Rowling, I dont know how to express my feelings and thoughts about the subject but her TERF stuff is bad. I have thoughts on consumer ethics, corporate ethics, creator ethics, etc but feel like its better to read what marginalized people are saying right now. Not sure what else to say about this stuff sorry. Ive been given more to think about than I expected.
In either case, at least the considerations like this are always appreciated and it's why the conversations are important

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Thorn
02/08/23 11:18:10 AM
#221:


I haven't really had much to add here because GMUN and others have said it all already but I mean, for my part I just see it as the very bare minimum to not actively support Rowling with my dollars. Plenty of other video games out there - like I said, my backlog is killing me! - so it's honestly not even a difficult sacrifice.

Though I'm also not new to this I guess. Plenty of series/franchises I loved as a kid and were in some ways pretty foundational for me turned out to have been created by some odious people - Ender's Game, Harry Potter, Kenshin. I can't go back in time and not buy them but it certainly colors how I look back on them. The very least - and I mean very least - I can do is not support them going forward - whether that's Hogwarts Legacy, whatever new HP movies they're rumored to want to make, that Kenshin sequel, etc.

But that's just my thoughts on the matter as it relates to myself. I'm not trying to impose it on anyone else. Like has been said, if anything I find it a bit more sus when someone makes a big deal of justifying buying it to others than if they were just to do so and not call attention to it in any big way by like just posting in a discussion topic about the actual game itself.

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AriaOfBolo
02/08/23 11:28:16 AM
#222:


Thorn posted...
Plenty of series/franchises I loved as a kid and were in some ways pretty foundational for me turned out to have been created by some odious people - Ender's Game, Harry Potter, Kenshin.



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HanOfTheNekos
02/08/23 11:30:53 AM
#223:


Yeah, I was crazy about OSC books back in the day, before I was really developed enough to understand some of the themes.

Nowadays, I don't care about OSC because it's really easy to move onto other things. It's not like there's a dearth of media in the world.

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tazzyboyishere
02/08/23 11:31:30 AM
#224:


Just to note Axl consistently gets mad at the results in my dumb video game contest I run that gets like 40 voters

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UshiromiyaEva
02/08/23 11:36:21 AM
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I don't have the personal connection to HP (I read them, but I don't, like, care) for me to have even cared about this game to begin with, but Kenshin is definitely the one that hurt. I actually got RID of Kenshin stuff I owned when that shit happened.

And now they're remaking the show soon and it's like....come the fuck on.

And then you have other major creators being openly vocal and financially supportive of the guy like Oda, and it's like, is One Piece tainted now too?

It's hard to know where it ends.

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pjbasis
02/08/23 11:42:30 AM
#226:


Personally I assume that just about everyone has done or is doing something I don't approve of.

Just because I find out about it doesn't really change anything.

I do separate the artist from the art very easily though. I would be able to read a book written by Hitler and only criticize it on its own literary merits.

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Kenri
02/08/23 11:46:45 AM
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HanOfTheNekos posted...
Yeah, I was crazy about OSC books back in the day, before I was really developed enough to understand some of the themes.

Nowadays, I don't care about OSC because it's really easy to move onto other things. It's not like there's a dearth of media in the world.
I never read his books but the thing with OSC that still hurts is that he was involved with one of the single best Metroidvania games out there.

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Murphiroth
02/08/23 11:51:04 AM
#228:


tazzyboyishere posted...
Just to note Axl consistently gets mad at the results in my dumb video game contest I run that gets like 40 voters

Mad seems to be his default setting.
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Thorn
02/08/23 11:51:07 AM
#229:


Yeah, HP is probably the one of those three that was least "important" to me. I started falling out of it around the time of Book 7 even. It was a weird trajectory where my mom ended up being a bigger fan than me at the end of it lol. There were definitely moments that even as a kid rubbed me the wrong way - the easy example is Hermione, the House Elves, and SPEW where like... Hermione was objectively correct in what she was doing but the book clearly was trying to push the message that she was crazy/an irritant. Kid/young teen me didn't make the jump to equating it to protest/activism/status quo at the time but it just seemed wrong to me even then and just a weird thing to have happened.

Ender's Game/OSC was definitely the biggest influence for me I'd say. I forget exactly how old I was when I came across it, probably still elementary school and it was the first novel series I just fell in love with - bought and enjoyed all the sequels (and the accompanying Bean series) but I absolutely wasn't able to at the time understand many of the themes - I was basically reading and enjoying it at the most surface understanding (not to say there's anything wrong with that, but so much was going over my head LOL)

Kenshin wasn't exactly my intro to anime/manga (I'd credit that to Toonami as a whole more than anything) but it was the first manga series where I ended up buying all the volumes including eagerly awaiting a new volume release and I really enjoyed it and then... yeah, we all know what happened later.

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Obellisk
02/08/23 11:51:58 AM
#230:


So if CjayC was brought up on charges for something despicable would people quit gamefaqs and the b8 community?

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foolm0r0n
02/08/23 11:53:46 AM
#231:


pjbasis posted...
I do separate the artist from the art very easily though
Your money does not

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Thorn
02/08/23 11:53:47 AM
#232:


If he were still owner and profiting from the site (and whatever it was didn't force him to sell or whatever and he maintained control) then yeah I'd probably leave. But AFAIK he has no further connection to the site and hasn't for like 15 years.

also he totally ghosted us. said it wasn't gonig to be an abrupt departure and then it was exactly that lol.

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pjbasis
02/08/23 11:54:40 AM
#233:


OSC is a weird one to me especially because the messages and themes I took from his books were the exact opposite of "gay is bad."
I thought the dude was preaching diversity and empathy with people different from you!

And I think it's fair to say the books still do if that's what you take from it. (Been a long a time since I read them though, might need to reinvestigate)


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ChaosTonyV4
02/08/23 11:56:48 AM
#234:


I always liked HP, but I was a diehard Forgotten Realms kid, and the Wizarding Worlds world-building has always been ass compared to straight-up D&D.

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pjbasis
02/08/23 11:57:11 AM
#235:


foolm0r0n posted...
Your money does not

Fair! But that's a different topic. Some people are not just talking about boycotting but how it changes their relationship with the work.


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Obellisk
02/08/23 11:57:18 AM
#236:


Thorn posted...
But AFAIK he has no further connection to the site and hasn't for like 15 years.

maybe I went too far back with CJay.

If SBAllen threw bricks at raccoons, would we quit b8?

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masterplum
02/08/23 11:59:11 AM
#237:


pjbasis posted...
OSC is a weird one to me especially because the messages and themes I took from his books were the exact opposite of "gay is bad."
I thought the dude was preaching diversity and empathy with people different from you!

And I think it's fair to say the books still do if that's what you take from it. (Been a long a time since I read them though, might need to reinvestigate)

I think he got crazier as he got older. I am pretty sure his more recent stuff is way more objectionable than his older stuff.


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MacArrowny
02/08/23 12:00:48 PM
#238:


Scientologists are weird ones too. Like, how did so many people justify going to see Top Gun Maverick when so much of the money goes to Tom Cruise (he produced it and got a revenue percentage), who does a lot to fund Scientology, a cult that rapes/kills/kidnaps women? It'll be the same deal with the new Mission Impossible this year too; that's already projected to make like a billion dollars.

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Kenri
02/08/23 12:01:40 PM
#239:


Thorn posted...
also he totally ghosted us. said it wasn't gonig to be an abrupt departure and then it was exactly that lol.
mirror opposite of all the people who say "i'm leaving forever!" and then are back on gamefaqs in like a week lmao

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tazzyboyishere
02/08/23 12:04:00 PM
#240:


This topic is a good reminder of why it's morally okay to pirate most things.

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ShadowYosuke
02/08/23 12:10:31 PM
#241:


MacArrowny posted...
It's similar with movies in general, too. There are a lot of campaigns out there to boycott Scientologist and anti-vax stars, but most of them don't go that well (Top Gun Maverick earned over $700M in the US alone), since people prize entertainment over ethics.

I'd say it's less that and more they value Entertainment over ethics regarding more abstract concepts. Especially when the end result is minimal change.

Let's say people boycotted Top Gun Maverick. Nobody watched it, and it lost millions of dollars. What does that do to scientology? What does that do to the anti-vax movement?

On that note, I feel like a lot of people saying "This game looks bad anyway!" are undermining the boycott because if the game looks bad, of course nobody's going to buy it. And it would then fail because of the devs, and not because of Rowling. I get that they're probably trying to convince people "You don't really need this!" but I feel like people are going to judge that for themselves rather than listening to a stranger's opinion on the internet. The message should be "Don't buy this game, because it enables Rowling's transphobia against us."

But I also feel like it's not going to work specifically because its goals are a bit abstract, without any real ultimate change in mind. It's why most people went about watching the World Cup even though it was hosted in the human rights disaster that was Qatar. A lot of people don't care much about sending a message.

That's not to say I think people should buy this game. I think people have to consider the ethical considerations for themselves, and decide if that's what they want to do. I just think this sort of boycott, especially around an already established franchise as big as Harry Potter, isn't going to work when its goals are more abstract.
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PrivateBiscuit1
02/08/23 12:18:53 PM
#242:


htaeD posted...
Classy exit that guy had, calling everyone else mentally ill.

Is he secretly Darksydephil?
Don't worry, self-proclaimed trans ally DarkSydePhil has a totally reasonable take on this drama too.

https://youtube.com/shorts/7wOw-vs5seg?feature=share

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foolm0r0n
02/08/23 12:37:44 PM
#243:


pjbasis posted...
Fair! But that's a different topic. Some people are not just talking about boycotting but how it changes their relationship with the work.
It's all connected, ultimately. There's the monetary economy but also the attention economy, advertising, brand, prestige, cultural impact. All that stuff indirectly helps the IP holder, and it's boosted by merely consuming the product.

Of course, the money is the most direct and powerful part of that. If someone can boycott the monetary benefits then that should be good enough in this case. You naturally want to go beyond that though.

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RaidenGarai
02/08/23 12:40:51 PM
#244:


Speaking of visual novels, has anyone else tried The Letter? I thought that one was pretty good.

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Obellisk
02/08/23 12:44:31 PM
#245:


There's no such thing as bad publicity
- P. T. Barnum

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UshiromiyaEva
02/08/23 12:46:30 PM
#246:


RaidenGarai posted...
Speaking of visual novels, has anyone else tried The Letter? I thought that one was pretty good.

Never heard of it, but looks like it's free on mobile. I'll ad it to the list!

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NoFInBadger
02/08/23 12:48:43 PM
#247:


Jesus Christ why is this topic 247 replies long?

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Grimlyn
02/08/23 12:50:01 PM
#248:


Obellisk posted...
So if CjayC was brought up on charges for something despicable would people quit gamefaqs and the b8 community?
you're literally describing neogaf

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htaeD
02/08/23 1:04:32 PM
#249:


NoFInBadger posted...
Jesus Christ why is this topic 247 replies long?


It all started with a napkin

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mnk
02/08/23 1:19:06 PM
#250:


Grimlyn posted...
you're literally describing neogaf

What would we call Board 8 2?

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Hbthebattle
02/08/23 1:20:30 PM
#251:


mnk posted...
What would we call Board 8 2?
board 9

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