Current Events > Man, Jon Stewart is reeeaallllly not taking any of this shit anymore

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Why does he need to mention it?

Do you think that the people tuning into watching The Daily Show are unaware of what Jon Stewart's opinion is on Trump? Why does he have to treat the people that watch his show as if they need a spoonful of "but Trump bad" every 60 seconds to make sure they understand that he doesn't like Donald Trump. They're not idiots.

Like holy shit, I'm sure he assumes that the people that watch his show are educated enough to understand that there is nuance to what he is saying, and not your average Fox News watcher who needs everything spoonfed to them as if they're children.

"I have no argument so I will insult you."

Notice that is all every single pro-Trump user has.

Wait, you think every person that's disagreeing with your dumbass takes here are Trump supporters??

Holy shit you're lost in the sauce man, get some help.

I swear, a lot of people wouldn't have been happy with the episode unless it was only about Trump. If you say anything negative about the democrats there's a segment of the population who loses their fucking minds and thinks you must be a chud. Like holy shit, the primaries are the time to be the most critical of representatives.

Jon was comparing a genocidal zionist protestant to a genocidal zionist catholic.

Hey adults are talking, come back later

So whenever someone makes any sort of criticism or send up of Biden there needs to be at least an equivalent or more amount of time dedicated to having a serious speech that Trump is a dictator.

You need to do this even if your politics and opinion are public knowledge. Even if the audience of your show is literally American liberals.

1. Informing people.
2. It would be funny.

Any failure to do this or failure to criticize people who don't follow this rules means you are a Trump supporter and/or sympathizer.

Yes, a lot of people are disagreeing with you and Unfair.

Is raising the question "Are old ass Biden and Trump the absolute best that America has to offer as the leaders of the free world?" a both sides question?

Pretty sure Stewart's gone in on Trump enough that there's just not much to say that he hasn't said several times already.

Jon was comparing a genocidal zionist protestant to a genocidal zionist catholic.

But spending 15 minutes on "Both sides, they're both old and the same."

One is actively trying to negotiate a ceasefire

The other side openly states that Palestinians should be wiped out

Same thing!

Punished_Blinx also argued that Biden saying he'd never abandon Israel is the same thing as Trump saying he will be a dictator if elected.

One is actively trying to negotiate a ceasefire

Same thing!

I used that as an example of the segment not being a complete rundown of both candidates.

He doesn't need to do that and no one is saying he should.

But not even mentioning, and I repeat again, Donald Trump openly saying he will be a dictator if elected, so he can both sides about Biden's age is pretty awful.

And why people like Musk and Daily Beast and other far right sources all embraced it.

You guys are lying through your teeth and pretending people are saying things that they aren't. They were criticing Jon for falling into that lame both sides pattern and not informing his audience about things that matter. Not criticing him for making fun of Biden.

You know this full well, stop pretending you don't know this.

Biden is either not actively negotiating or just extremely shit at it

Yea im sure negotiating with a suicidal terror organization like hamas is pretty easy

He needs to just say "i demand ceasefire and I'm not a zionist anymore" on national TV and that would solve everything

And your response to him not mentioning all the stuff Trump did is "He didn't mention Biden's Gaza comments." even though HE DID mention Biden's Gaza gaff and played the the Hur report hit piece as if it was legitimate.

All just to go "Hey Trump factually forgets things (or pretends to) at depositions and if we pretend Joe Biden does too. Then they're both as bad as each other."

Even at the few and far between times he went "Trump also did that." he didn't mention the horrific stuff Trump had just said.

That's both siding. This is why Elon and Daily Wire/Beast etc all praised it.

This is why you keep lying about why people were disappointed and pretending you don't understand what they are saying to accuse them of being "Blue Maga"

Yea im sure negotiating with a suicidal terror organization like hamas is pretty easy

He needs to just say "i demand ceasefire and I'm not a zionist anymore" on national TV and that would solve everything

Biden doesn't need hamas to agree with ending weapons shipments to Israel. Biden doesn't need hamas to agree with aid getting in to Palestine.

I'm sorry but weren't we talking about a ceasefire? Yes Biden needs to negotiate with hamas to get a ceasefire.

The segment was about them both being senior and looking incompetent due to their age. That's why the Gaza part was about the gaffe and not about Biden supplying weapons to Israel. That's why both segments were about them sounding old and not about either of their policies and actions.

The funny thing is he explicitly says that they should show Biden being a strong leader in public and not just expect people to take their word for it. Something they did indeed do last week.

I don't recall any constructive criticism he gave towards Trump.

What you're doing is stripping it down and removing all context of the segment to make it seem like it was just a hit piece on Biden.

Which you also did to my posts. Which is right out of the Elon Musk and Daily Wire playbook ironically enough.

When has he done that at all?

Then you've actually done something useful rather than just shitting on Trump constantly

He doesn't need to do that and no one is saying he should.

But not even mentioning, and I repeat again, Donald Trump openly saying he will be a dictator if elected, so he can both sides about Biden's age is pretty awful.

And why people like Musk and Daily Beast and other far right sources all embraced it.

You guys are lying through your teeth and pretending people are saying things that they aren't. They were criticing Jon for falling into that lame both sides pattern and not informing his audience about things that matter. Not criticing him for making fun of Biden.

You know this full well, stop pretending you don't know this.

I feel like I'm going to end up copying and pasting that several more times because people are pretending they don't understand what people are saying.

If you are mediating with two parties and hand one a weapon that's being shit at negotiation.

Imagine if after Russia invaded Ukraine you did 15 minutes on "Ukraine has a serious far right problem." without mentioning the invasion once. And then when challenged go "What? What did I do that was wrong? All I did was point out that there's a far right problem in Ukraine. Are you saying it's wrong to be against the far right? Do I have to criticize Russia every 5 seconds? Do you think people don't know Russa is bad!?"

You know exactly how disingenuous you are being.

You're still sticking with "But the segment was about Biden being old so that's all he was able to talk about for 15 minutes. He HAD to both sides, he had to legitimatize the Hur report so he could find more things to both sides with Trump about, he had to not mention horrible things Trump just said that Biden never would ever say or do. He had to say they were the same because that was the segment."

No. That doesn't make any sense whatsoever. And you know it full well. You're so utterly utterly disengenious.

You're pretending you don't understand why this both sides stuff is bad and why so many people were disappointed.

Because he didn't really give any criticism towards Trump. Other than "oh trump does that too."

It pretty much was. That's the goal of "Both Sides" spend near the entire time attacking Biden, don't mention the horrible shit Trump said, legitimatize the bullshit Hur report just invent new things to "both sides" Trump and Biden about.

Within the context of doing that and making them the same after one had just said he wants to be a dicator, attacks free press, has GOP donations pay his rape cases etc and instead legitimatize the Hur report to go "They both forget things at depositions, they're the same!" when 1. Biden doesn't. 2. They're not the same at all. Is fucked.

I've responded to literally everything you've said just so you couldn't make that claim and you literally made it anyway

Says it all.

The anti-reality stance

More good stuff from Stewart. Anyone here who thinks he's supporting Trump in any way, direct or indirect, really should consider going to their doctor to get their brain checked.

"Man it's crazy that you listened to what I said."

Riiiiiiight.

So listening to what people say = crazy
Insulting people, contributing nothing on topic and being completely disingenuous while accusing the people you insult of having their "narratives" - fine

Okie Dokie

I feel like a little bit of "both sides"ing can be an effective tool to sway fence sitters. You go too hard on Trump(even though he absolutely deserves every single bit of criticism) he comes off looking like a bullied underdog in their minds. You ease them into it, presenting both sides as imperfect and building trust in the idea that you're unbiased, and gradually convince them that Biden is overall better.

Then you've actually done something useful rather than just shitting on Trump constantly and appeasing...who? The people who already know he's the fucking worst.

I don't know if that's what Stewart is doing, but if it is I think it's a decent strat.

ButteryMales posted...

If you are mediating with two parties and hand one a weapon that's being shit at negotiation.

The fuck? Yea its not a domestic dispute between a wife and husband its a fucking war.

No crazy is finding the logs of a lurker poster from 4 years ago and trying to use that post to frame it as if I'm a Trump supporter or as if I don't have any political beliefs at all.

And yes, you obviously have a narrative here. You want to furiously defend Biden and the Democratic Party and won't allow any criticisms of him no matter what.

Like in this topic you're trying to act as if one of the most famous supporters of the Democratic party of the past 25+ years (who has already been criticalof Trump in the past and anyone with a brain watching already knows this) is somehow drifting right because he didn't mention Trump enough for your liking in 1 episode of his TV show.

Instead of realizing that perhaps he recognizes that the Democratic party's rightward shift lately can be worrying because they are starting to become overly reliant on just hoping "Trump really bad" (which he is) is enough to get voters to vote for them and not actually doing enough listening to their constituents and earning their votes.

So you agree that's bad mediating between a wife and husband? Your problem is you can't see the big picture is like the small picture.

ButteryMales posted...

So you agree that's bad mediating between a wife and husband? Your problem is you can't see the big picture is like the small picture.

Lmfao this is one of the most brain cooked posts I've ever seen on this site

You come into the topic insulting me for criticizing both sides narratives. Then call me crazy for pointing out that you promote both sides narratives.

Is all because he is worried people are relying on Trump being bad... So the solution is to not talk about all the stuff Trump just did that would be career ending for anyone else and both sides on Biden...

You sound like an insane person. You're using posts from 4 years ago to try to paint me as someone who currently promotes both sides. You call me disingenuous when you cherry pick 2 posts of mine (that I dont even know where you got them from) instead of the other posts from the past 3.5 years to show that I obviously support the Democratic party. You're the disingenuous one.

You keep repeating the same exact talking points over and over again as if you think you've made some genius point in there. You haven't.

No, because all of that stuff is a given because the people that watch his show and know his political leanings already know that all of the shit that Trump does is obviously horrible. Nobody watching the Daily Show thinks anything positively about Donald Trump. Obviously. It's pointless.

1. No they don't.
2. It's a political commentary show. Going "Don't talk about things the audience has heard of (even though they likely haven't) you have to instead both sides!" is silly. You know it's silly. Should he not have done an episode on Israel/Palestine because the audience have all heard about Israel and Palestine? Utter tripe.

Like, if he wanted to do an entire episode being critical of the Democratic party and their recent rightward shift and how that can be potentially causing the youth vote to lose enthusiasm, does he need to have a ticker running on the bottom that says "Trump is still obviously worse" the whole time or is he allowed to just make a video on that subject matter without having people suddenly claiming that he's "both sidesing"

Never heard the phrase "You can't see the bigger picture."?

Rich coming from you.

Youtube kept spamming his new shit in my recommended. First one I clicked was typical both sides bullshit and trying to gaslight people for supporting one of the most experienced, successful, qualified, and respected politicians in American history . So ya, we can finally dispense with the illusion that John Stewart ever actually cared about politics or his country

Biden is either not actively negotiating or just extremely shit at it. Biden is unconstitutionally bypassing congress to give weapons to Israel.

Protestants and Catholics aren't the same people.

Biden called himself a Zionist.

Jon was comparing a genocidal zionist protestant to a genocidal zionist catholic.