Board 8 > Luce, Fluttershy, and Raetsel rank 361+ songs [Rankings]

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Spark_Garou
04/29/24 5:02:15 PM
#1:


Current Nominations: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10NlOo6cjWLEyjuYZmRoxNnUGy_vWmO3sSegM-gwtb3Q/edit#gid=2071398813

EXTRA NOMINATIONS AVAILABLE?

Nominations were extended near the end of the nomination topic. Until Wednesday, May 8th -or- until 50 songs have been eliminated in this topic, whichever comes later, anyone who has not already used all of their extra noms may do so by posting in this topic prior to the deadline.

PARTICIPANTS WITH EXTRA NOMINATION/S:

-hotdogturtle-- (5 Available)
azuarc (5 Available)
banshiryuu (3 Available)
Chaeix (5 Available)
FL81 (5 Available)
JohnBobb (5 Available)
Kopazzynth (5 Available)
MacArrowny (5 Available)
MarkS2222222222 (5 Available)
MaxGalactica (1 Available)
mcflubbin (5 Available)
Murphiroth (5 Available)
paulg235 (1 Available)
Place (5 Available)
Player_0 (5 Available)
pyresword (5 Available)
Raka_Putra (3 Available)
rwlh (5 Available)
Tked (5 Available)
UF8 (1 Available)
Xtlm (5 Available)
ZaziGuado (2 Available)

Any newcomer who inexplicably finds their way here may also have 5 extra nominations until the deadline.

(The short version is that the more nominations you used during the main ranking, the fewer bonus nominations you received with 5 being the max number of bonuses.)

PARTICIPANTS WHO HAVE USED THEIR EXTRA NOMINATION/S:

Bane
BlackDra90n
CJones
GavsEvans123
handsomeboy2012
Mega_Mana
NFUN
redrocket
Snake
tazzy
TunnelScene

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Actual Introduction:

#C#

Hello and welcome to all! I'm Luce and I shall be your host for this topic, along with Fluttershy & Raetsel, and any of our other accounts who may decide to show up this year. Due to all the chaos Fandom has been causing, I've made the decision to speed this ranking up and throw things into hyperdrive. Here are the key differences from our past Rankings:

1: As nominations are still open during the early stages of the ranking, we don't know how many songs we're actually ranking. The current count is 361, but that number could increase to virtual infinity if everyone uses their extra nominations & some newcomers join at the literal last minute.

2: All songs are getting at least two listens, as opposed to the old standard of at least three listens. With apologies, I want to try to get through this before Fandom has a chance to ruin anything else and I was too demoralized to go through with the original plan. This wildly experimental speed ranking has recharged my motivation so I'm happy with it, but I'll apologize in advance to anyone disappointed that songs are getting a bit less attention than previous years. (On the plus side, fewer listens freed us up to do this extra round of bonus nominations, so hopefully that eases the sting a bit.)

3: All song rankings are considered provisional until the last song has been eliminated. This was the case last year, but it goes double this time due to the experimental & live nature of the topic. Right now, songs only have a preliminary score based on first reactions and our opinion on songs typically varies wildly on repeat listens. Last year saw songs rise and fall hundreds of placements... so songs that have a very high initial score may actually be dropped so low that they ultimately place below songs that were eliminated earlier in the topic. Please bear with us during this process and thank you for your understanding.

4: At irregular intervals, we'll take a moment to look at some "extra songs" with personal significance. These extra songs are not considered part of the ranking and have no direct impact on anything, but allow us a chance to work through some feelings and share far more information than should ever be shared publicly. The following songs have write ups ready to be posted, so please don't waste a nomination slot on them:

Duckman - We Are There
The Monkees - Gonna Buy Me A Dog
Tat-Ming Pair - Roller Skating
Theory of a Deadman - Santa Monica


Other songs may be added to this list. There's no real schedule for these things, so I suppose some extra songs and write ups will be posted whenever they happen to be posted. You're free to use extra noms on similar or related songs if you want, just not those exact four because they're sorta already here & so personally relevant that I don't feel comfortable having them in the main ranking.

5: #letter# designations:

This is a tab so important it actually gets bolded. At the start of certain write ups, you'll find a letter between two pound signs. These function as content warnings:

B: Mostly traumadumping. It means we've said something so personal that we don't want it saved on any archive sites. Please tread lightly if you must quote or respond to these stories.

C: Excessive in-character roleplaying, mostly in the form of arguments between the various accounts. These should be taken as somewhat tongue-in-cheek, it's not legitimate Dissociative Identity Disorder or anything serious, just... weird. There was a little of this at past topics, but most of the really unhinged things were redacted... though since this is probably the last ranking (I'm not betting on this board being here in a year), we're dialing up the insanity and leaving in long form conversations whenever a song resulted in one.

...The original plan was to post the full, unedited version of each write up & then edit them into a more palatable, sanitized version. So that the write up seemed normal from the outside, but you could click on the post history of a write up if you really wanted all the trauma & fighting. But honestly, I think the point of one big end of the world celebration where we stop holding things back & confess everything is that we don't waste our time on sanitized versions. So... yeah, if you want to avoid total insanity, just skip past the write ups with those tags. Or flee the topic now, which would likely be the sane response. *she quietly wishes she had her own signature shifty-eyed emoticon to add here, but refuses to use Raetsel's and lacks inspiration.*

[Fluttershy] Oh, I use that one too! [Editor's Note: The face in question being </.<]. Raetsel uses it as a floppy ear covering her face, while I think it works for my mane. You could also have long hair or something.

[Luce] Oh, like hell am I going to intentionally use one of the rabbit's visual tics. Thanks anyway though. This did provide an excuse to illustrate what would get a #C# tag, so it worked out. Now where was I...

...eh, I think that's everything that's new this year? If not, I'm sure you'll figure it out, it's a ranking of a bunch of songs it's not that complicated. >.>

.......man, I do not like how that face looks without an extra symbol or two thrown in. >.*>, maybe? No, that looks like I've got a bruise on my forehead. >^>? ...Well that just makes it look like I have a third eye that's refusing to look at the same thing as the other two eyes, like I'm a version of Tien with crippling vision problems. *sighs* Whatever.

*continued*

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Spark_Garou
04/29/24 5:03:15 PM
#2:


Character Introductions

If we're going all in on the roleplaying this year, have a few lazy & half-assed character sheets so you may picture us the way we imagine ourselves.

[Luce (Spark_Garou)]

Name: Luce ; technically short for Luceid from Wild ARMs, though I don't really like the association these days, so probably don't use the full name. It doesn't bother me, but it is annoying. Also, don't call me Lucy; just... don't. My preferred name is the same number of letters, so going out of your way to spell it wrong is needlessly malicious & that does bother me. I'd prefer if you avoided any diminutive nicknames that end in a -y sound, to be quite honest, but that one is a sore spot.. Spark also works well enough.

Account Name: Spark_Garou.

Species: Wolf with a variable identity. Typically has a fully human appearance these days, but occasionally shifts to full wolf forms and assorted furry hybrids as desired.

Imaginary Voice Actor: Stephanie Beatriz would be pretty dope.

Role: The one who deals with things that the others won't.

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[Fluttershy (Fluttershy_Pony)]

Name: Fluttershy; Flutter for short. Or Pony. Probably not FP, but she's too nice to complain and would be happy to try adjusting to a new name even if it sounds awkward & uncomfortable.

Account Name: Fluttershy_Pony

Species: Pony. ...Strangely, always non-anthropomorphic in spite of the fact that there's literally a human Fluttershy she could be picturing herself as. *shrugs* Well, whatever makes her happy.

Imaginary Voice Actor: ...Andrea Libman, though I fail to see the need to specify when we're stealing a character wholesale like this anyway.

Role: The nice one.

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[Raetsel (Raetsel_Lapin)]

Name: Raetsel. Doesn't actually care what you call her and will respond to anything, presuming she bothers responding at all in the first place.

Account Name: Raetsel_Lapin

Species: Shapeshifer that mostly sticks to humanoid rabbit characters. Absolutely refuses to take forms that are completely non-anthropomorphic.

Imaginary Voice Actor: "That one female voice actor that you swear you've heard a dozen times before, but you can never remember her name and whenever you look her up it's never who you thought it was" normally, Amir Talai when being needlessly cruel or trying to start a fight which is basically all the time these days, and Jason Alexander when trying to be serious. ...Take your complaints up with her, I'm just the messenger.

Role: ...I'm going to take the high road and not comment at this point.

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We'll start with about five eliminated songs per day and will hopefully increase to ten once things are more settled. First eliminations later this evening.

Mentions:

I'm sorry to summon people to this topic, but due to the unexpected addition of new nomination slots, I feel I have an obligation to at least notify people:

@-hotdogturtle-- (5 Available)
@azuarc (5 Available)
@banshiryuu (3 Available)
@Chaeix (5 Available)
@FL81 (5 Available)
@JohnBobb (5 Available)
@GameBopAdv / Kopazzynth (5 Available)
@MacArrowny (5 Available)
@MarkS2222222222 (5 Available)
@MaxGalactica (1 Available)

*continued*

It's going to take a while to tag everyone. Have some more apologies for all the posts wasted on this.

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Spark_Garou
04/29/24 5:05:30 PM
#3:


Apologies again, but here's the second wave of notifications to people with extra slots remaining:

@mcflubbin (5 Available)
@Murphiroth (5 Available)
@paulg235 (1 Available)
@Place (5 Available)
@Player_0 (5 Available)
@pyresword (5 Available)
@Raka_Putra (3 Available)
@rwlh (5 Available)
@Tked (5 Available)
@UF8 (1 Available)

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Spark_Garou
04/29/24 5:06:28 PM
#4:


With an excessive number of apologies, here's the last two people with extra slots available:

@Xtlm (5 Available)
@ZaziGuado (2 Available)

And I suppose I should tag those who did use all of their songs, just so they don't feel left out (even if I'm positive that anyone following the nomination topic will find their way here without issue):

@Bane_Of_Despair
@BlackDra90n
@CJones
@GavsEvans123
@handsomeboy2012
@Mega_Mana
@NFUN
@redrocket

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Spark_Garou
04/29/24 5:07:26 PM
#5:


And the final people. So many tags... I see why we never did this at any past ranking, yeesh.

@Snake5555555555
@tazzyboyishere
@TunnelScene

And... I think that covers everyone and everything. Be back in a few hours to start dropping songs.

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Bane_Of_Despair
04/29/24 5:12:08 PM
#6:


Wooooo, tag. Excited to see where most of these songs place

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Johnbobb
04/29/24 5:13:41 PM
#7:


Oh nice tag

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Dedf1sh
04/29/24 5:16:40 PM
#8:


Tag

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NBIceman
04/29/24 5:19:21 PM
#9:


Oh, cool.

I wasn't on either list - do I have extra noms?

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Snake5555555555
04/29/24 5:24:42 PM
#10:


Tag

Excited for insanity

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handsomeboy2012
04/29/24 5:53:24 PM
#11:


tag
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rwlh
04/29/24 5:54:05 PM
#12:


Very well. I will nominate more than two songs. Let me think for a bit.
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redrocket
04/29/24 6:03:03 PM
#13:


Tag

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Spark_Garou
04/29/24 6:11:08 PM
#14:


NBIceman posted...
Oh, cool.

I wasn't on either list - do I have extra noms?


Oh, I really have no idea how that happened. I thought I was careful when going over the list. Anyway, you should have one; basically

Anyone who managed to get in the full 15 nominations (this should include you by my count) got 1 bonus.

11 to 14 regular noms, you get bonuses to reach a total of 15.

10 or less, including 0, gives you 5 bonus nominations.

Apologies again, I really don't know how I skipped past you on the sheet.

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Johnbobb
04/29/24 6:14:37 PM
#15:


oh more songs to nominate

Character: The Wraith/Phantom Racer/Mystery Driver
TWRP ft. The Protomen - Phantom Racer - 4:55
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRd6OZxrEsU

Buju Banton - Murderer - 3:57
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6BQWq5IjL0

Joel Plaskett Emergency - Fashionable People - 4:09
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXxn4BOTM6U

Lonemoon - NAW NAW - 1:52
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYgDYTZo1u8

King Missile - Cheesecake Truck - 1:10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1QfjHZ2isU

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rwlh
04/29/24 6:18:03 PM
#16:


Talking Heads | Once in a Lifetime | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHatn3_UxEU (4:18)
Kraftwerk | Computer Love | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFmmzFcM-MA (7:19)
Kate Bush | Waking the Witch | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlZmpe-svno (4:18)
Triple_sSs | Big Beat Mario | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE8zb1CPTrc (6:30)
The Shaggs | Philosophy of the World | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thHcvTDGWvg (3:03)
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Mega_Mana
04/29/24 6:23:50 PM
#17:


Dropping songs already! Excitement

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Place
04/29/24 7:24:29 PM
#18:


Pat Metheny Group | Minuano (Six Eight) | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cg0NGif5jZc (9:26)
QSound Labs | Starkey Cetera Virtual Barber Shop | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HCFOF-5nUw (4:33)
Fusion Legend | Concertino in Blue | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITH-l72YYT0 (5:45)
Virtual Riot | I heard you like polyrhythms | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SthcxWPXG_E (7:56)
Hans Zimmer | The Rightful King | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7rkHnM_XOc (11:45)

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Xtlm
04/29/24 7:38:28 PM
#19:


Oh neat, I'll have 5 more songs nominated before I sleep tonight lol

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Raka_Putra
04/29/24 7:38:54 PM
#20:


Thanks for the explanation of your system and the tag. Well, since you're opening up more slots anyway...

Six the Musical | Ex Wives (5:52)
https://youtu.be/AgEJK6Vk8Ro?si=q14Yc0vadYUQkf_2
@Raka_Putra
Characters: Catherine of Aragon, Anne Boleyn, Jane Seymour, Anne of Cleves, Katherine Howard, and Catherine Parr

Jesus Christ Superstar 1992 Australian Cast Recording | The Last Supper (7:03)
https://youtu.be/ELawR6Xvilw?si=F4N5TYbRHW-Bh8fA
@Raka_Putra
Characters: Jesus, Judas, and the Apostles

minato ft. Kagamine Len | Spice (3:40)
https://youtu.be/eEfx8mxUF18?si=S5kgs7Nw9YM5VNdZ
@Raka_Putra
Character: Kagamine Len

Oh yeah and for You Don't Know/I'm The One, the characters are Diana Goodman, Dan Goodman, and Gabriel Goodman.
For Bears Got to Go to College, the characters are Dylan and Tyler.

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Spark_Garou
04/29/24 8:37:15 PM
#21:


Thank you all, I'll add those songs to the sheet in the morning (and update the character notes on those songs.). That gets us up to 379 songs at the moment by my count, so we'll start with the songs provisionally in 379th through 375th place. Exact numbers will obviously change as more songs are added (especially if some wind up with lower final scores than these five. You know how it is with a live ranking.)

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#379: SCENE QUEEN | FINGER (2:33)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Kq1O9FM920
Nominator: @Snake5555555555

Initial Score: 20.98
Final Score: 3.00 [Upgraded to 18.56]

(First Reaction: ... Yeah... there's not a lot I can do with a song this sexually explicit. Some points for a pony reference and the "If God hated gays, the sex wouldn't be so good" line, but... well, it at least avoided the tiers of songs I hated, so that's something?)

....I didn't leave a number out. i just... don't want to listen to this, at all. Too explicit. Somedays I'm fine with that, somedays I'm not. Today is very much a "not" day and... well, that's about it really. Perhaps this song will be lucky enough to hit me on a day when I'm less bothered by its lyrics by the actual elimination, but this feels like a pretty solid tier below the other songs that were originally ranked below it (two of which I actually kinda like right now).

[LATER: So, these really low rated songs are getting a third listen due to timing shenanigans--the bottom 39-ish songs got "Second/Revised Scores" before I switched to this experimental speed format, so they're kinda getting the old treatment as I need to give them a third listen before I actually eliminate them. And this song is benefiting from getting the extra chance, though.... not that much of a benefit, if I'm being honest.

First, the good news: I'm less bothered by sexual content when I'm on this account. Honestly, we're all asexual, but I'm less repulsed by the thought. It's more of an "this does not interest me" than the absolute revulsion some feel. So, the lyrics are less of a dealbreaker than on the second listen.

Also, I honestly like the Bridge on this song. It's rather ethereal, the singing is prettier, and it's as though it came from a song three or four tiers above this one. And while it is obviously sexual, it's at least a bit less overt, which does make it more palatable. An entire song in that style would probably be in the mid-60s scorewise, even if they are just repeating one line.

The bad news: I still do not enjoy the verses or chorus. Like, at all. It's also dreadfully repetitive... the chorus consists of repeating the same lines twice, which isn't great--then we play the chorus in full five times and hearing those lines ten times in a two and a half minute long would be bothersome even if I did like them. The genre is also not something I'm into; it's not club music, but it's so... loud and aggressive. It's this hyper-aggressive, hyper-sexual, hyper-pop dance thing that I actively want to go away. I don't know that this is still the absolute lowest song in the topic, but it's... not great. When I'm against the lyrics, and the genre, and the repetition of the lyrics... there's... not really a polite way to say that I kinda hate this.

I do like the bridge though! So, it's hypothetically possible this band would have something I like. Just not this particular song. Very, very much not this particular song.]

[Slightly Later: Okay, now I can say it's the lowest song in the topic, unless someone finds something I really hate.]

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#378: Jain - Makeba (4:09)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryG4CSQ_aJE
Nominator: @paulg235

Initial Score: 17.94
Final Score: 19.03

(First Reaction: ...Yeah, I think I hate this. This chorus... that high-pitched "ooh-ee" and the way the lyrics just keep repeating. Make it stop. Please. I feel like mis-quoting Jesus Christ Superstar's Gethsemane.

"Now I'm sad and tired
Listen, surely I've exceeded expectations?
Listened for three minutes, seems like thirty
Could you ask as much from any other creature?"

...Which is amusing, but very much not where you want a train of thought to go. Honestly, the song isn't all horrible. Towards the end, it sounds like it's underwater. That's... novel enough to be worth a few points. And I can appreciate it being about a civil rights activist. I just... really, really don't want to listen to this again.)

And so we begin round two of listening, starting with the song that was officially in last place after the first round! Also of minor note, I just moved while on my vacation, so this is the first song to be listened to in the new apartment. Yay?

So... this song isn't terrible, but I'm still not not into it. That chorus is just so monotonous that the song very quickly burns through any goodwill built up by the verses. I do kinda like the verses--"you are the real beauty of human rights" is a decent line and I like the concept of honoring a civil rights icon--but repeatedly shouting "ooh-ee!" and dancing is not exactly a very compelling way to honor her. I am tempted to move this up to the 20 point marker because there are enough points that I kinda like, or almost like, that saying I "hate" it might be a bit too harsh... but when the song consists primarily of a chorus that I do hate, it's a bit hard to convince myself to give it even those few token extra points. I'll move it closer, up to 19 points, and reevaluate it right before its posted.

[LATER: Going to be brutally honest. My reaction to having to listen to this a third time was "please, no, don't make me endure this a third time. Please," and that honestly feels like it should be back in last place. BUT... that underwater section is pretty neat... and I like the idea of the song. It's enough to let it escape last place, though only just.]

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Spark_Garou
04/29/24 8:42:28 PM
#22:


Oh right; I couldn't decide between CAPS LOCKING the titles or posting them like normal, so artists & titles are formatted however the nominator formatted them. They're just straight copy/paste jobs. <`.<

...still not quite there, but it's closer to a decent emoticon than the earlier attempts.

......right and I'm supposed to post how many songs participants have remaining, aren't I? Eh, I'll start that with tomorrow's eliminations since I already have these ready to go without that number included. Just count it as part of the LIVE EXPERIENCE that important statistics haven't been written down yet.

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#377: THE STAR SPANGLED SINGERS | STAR SPANGLED MAN (2:53)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go_Xzb3ZN4M
Nominator: @Mega_Mana
Character: Captain America

Initial Score: 37.81
Final Score: 23.99 [Downgraded to 21.00]

(First Reaction: Well, it's an unexpected nomination, I'll give it that much. This is a really good scene in the film--seeing Captain America reduced to being a mere propaganda figure was interesting and the ridiculous nature of this novelty song makes for a funny scene, but I don't think the song works without the context of the film. It's a bit too old-fashioned for my tastes and there's not really anything funny about the song itself, leaving it without much of a leg to stand on. Yeah, "Who'll hang a noose on the goose-stepping goons from Berlin?" is *kinda* a fun lyric, but... well, I give the scene from the movie an A, this just isn't something I like out of context.)

While not the worst song, I think this may be the one I was least interested in hearing a second time. All the comedy and drama come from things *around* the song rather than from the song itself; without context, this is just a somewhat forgettable propaganda tune; and yeah, I could give it extra points for its role in the film, how it's both funny & tragic seeing what the hero has been reduced to... but I don't really want to? Like, my reaction is "I dislike listening to this outside of the movie" and giving it bonus points feels rather dishonest to my feelings. I'm sorry, but I'm moving this one down a few notches; it's unlikely to end in actual last place since I don't hate it or anything, but.. I just don't like this.

[LATER: The lowest scoring character song! That's an achievement. Sadly, it's been on a constant downward spiral from the time it was nominated. I don't know. I like Captain America... or at least I like certain interpretations of the character. Someone who stands for what America should stand for and inspires people to do better, like a squishy Superman. I like crushing Nazis. I like novelty songs. I like the film the song is from--it's not half as good as The Winter Soldier, but it's a solid introduction to the character and accomplishes everything it needs to. But somehow, I just don't like this song and it slides a little each time I hear it. And while I could raise other songs' score to place them over this one, I think it's more "this song has too many points" than "the other songs eliminated tonight have too few points".]

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#376: My Chemical Romance | Welcome to the Black Parade (5:14)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRKJiM9Njr8
Nominator: @GavsEvans123

Initial Score: 23.56
Final Score: 20.00 [Upgraded to 23.00]

(First Reactions:

Back from when we covered this at Rank the Tracks:

1: The End.
2: The Sharpest Lives
3: Dead!
4: I Don't Love You
5: House of Wolves
6: Disenchanted
7: Blood
8: Teenagers
9: This Is How I Disappear
10: Cancer
11: Welcome to the Black Parade
12: Famous Last Words
13: Sleep
14: Mama


So... I found this song to be one of the absolute weakest on the album; and honestly, it wasn't an album I much cared for... Zero songs in my top 25 of that cycle and a mid-tier "11th/25" place for the album itself, with it only managing to get that far due to how weak I found that cycle of albums. (Were this added to "Rank the Albums 6", I'd likely have it in 23rd Place.)

...So, yeah. A bad song from an album that only manages to be mid against incredibly weak opposition. I'm... well, I'm not saying you should know how I vote in Rank the Tracks or use that as a basis for anything considering how my opinions fluctuate wildly, but it's... not exactly one of the songs from Rank the Tracks I was hoping to see again, we'll say. Unfortunately, I still dislike this song; I don't hate it, but as much as I'd love for a good comeback story about this song finally clicking with me after so long (see: my growing fondness for Streetlight Manifesto after many years of not liking them), I just... do not get the appeal of this song on any level.

It seems like something I should love. I love sad songs & I love concept songs, we've got a concept song about dying! And there's even a marching band feel to it, a marching song got really high marks last topic, why this should be the greatest song ever! And yet, the absolute best I've ever felt towards the song was complete apathy. I just... I don't know why; I'm completely disinterested in everything here. From the singing, to the story, to the instruments, I cannot even begin caring about a single aspect of this song. I suspect the only reason I don't hate it is because hating requires a level of emotional investment that I don't get from this song. I've tried; I listened to it three times for Rank the Tracks, again for Rank the Albums 5, and again here. It has had a lot of chances over the course of many months to connect with me and I think my opinion of it drops with each listen. Typically, the more exposed I become to a song, the more I like it & they eventually win me over from attrition... this song is somehow having the opposite result, moving from complete apathy to active dislike.

I know this is just me; this was one of the most beloved songs from Album Cycle #5. But I don't get it and I don't think I ever will.)

This song continues its bleak march towards becoming something I hate. It's still not there, but I continue being less interested in it with each listen and I still don't get the appeal to this.

[LATER: I'm never going to like this song, but I'll give it back three of its points. It's still a decent step above songs that I hate, even if I quite actively never want to hear this again.

...I'm mildly curious how the album had three songs worse than this, but I don't think I'll be revisiting it to see how it accomplished that.]

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04/29/24 8:44:39 PM
#23:


And our final drop of the night:

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#375: Wataru Ishibashi - Pandasan Youchien (3:16)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAed_meyN-M

Nominator: NFUN

Initial Score: 23.07
Final Score: 23.07

(First Reaction: Why is this song not ending? How am I only two minutes into this song and why does it feel so much longer? Is this some type of torture device that disrupts the flow of time to prolong the listener's suffering?

meow, meow, Panda-san

Panda-san Is there a panda-san?
I wonder
if there is
a panda-san.

There aren't many pandas that meow. It's true. All the pandas I've
heard of don't meow , after all.


It only escapes last place by virtue of those lyrics at the end being kinda funny. I suppose I do like the idea of singing about a meowing panda.)

I still dislike this song. Way too many repetitions of "panda-san", they're not good singers, the backing music is not doing anything of interest... but it's almost cute & almost funny enough that I can't actually hate it. And there is quite a bit of meowing. I do like meowing.

[LATER: This is one of the most consistent scoring songs of the topic. It's always 23.07. It is the most 23.07 song to ever exist. It is the Platonic ideal of a very specific number and I think that's beautiful. Not beautiful enough to change its score, for that would destroy its beauty & also I quite actively dislike this song and don't want to move it up any further... still, it's better than The Black Parade! That's an accomplishment. Sorta. I mean, most people like Black Parade, so it'd be an accomplishment at their topics. And this song did have meowing. That's... a thing that got it some points.]

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EDIT: Nominator spreadsheet now has an extra tab with eliminated songs sorted by score. Pay no attention to one of mcflubbin's songs being oddly out of place on that tab; somehow the score section, which should have been blank, had an empty space in it which broke the formatting.

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04/29/24 9:07:50 PM
#24:


I strongly disagree with you. Pandasan Youchien is absolutely not the ideal of a 23.07. It's the opposite; it's perhaps the only song I've heard where I'd think any score from 0 to 100 is 100% justified. 23.07 is a correct answer, but not the correct answer

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04/29/24 9:14:43 PM
#25:


I suppose I'll throw out two more.

Beach House | Myth (4:19)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv7IcjmxjGo

Cloud Cult | Complicated Creation (2:31)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os7kvLzYKgY


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Snake5555555555
04/29/24 9:21:02 PM
#26:


Last place T_T

I definitely was not expecting that but I get the explanation. I'd probably wager you wouldn't like Scene Queen's other work which all have very similar vibes of super girly pop mixed with metal and based around sexually empowering women.

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04/29/24 9:34:34 PM
#27:


tag

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04/29/24 9:59:53 PM
#28:


Wasn't tagged, but I'm here anyway.

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04/29/24 10:16:34 PM
#29:


Spark_Garou posted...
#376: My Chemical Romance | Welcome to the Black Parade
in what world

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Bane_Of_Despair
04/29/24 10:23:07 PM
#30:


Daaaaaaaaaamn, the MCR hate hurts my soul

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04/29/24 10:36:56 PM
#31:


Also rip Scene Queen, I'm curious if you'd like 18+ more. You would probably think it's still a bit repetitive, but the lyrical content is a bit different and not as overtly sexual. This one is what introduced me to her:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2L57iEai79I

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Snake5555555555
04/29/24 10:40:47 PM
#32:


18+ is so good, probably her best lyrical writing honestly.

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04/29/24 11:36:00 PM
#33:


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Mega_Mana
04/30/24 1:11:34 AM
#34:


I am absolutely fine with "Star-Spangled Man" being my lowest! I don't remember my exact reasons for nominating it, but after going through two dozen or so superhero...

Wow. This is "Welcome to the Black Parade?" I thought I'd heard it before, but apparently not and I am underwhelmed by the hype.

Anyways, going through tons of superhero themes and power rangers and mostly instrumentals, hearing how different "Star-Spangled Man" was in comparison was the point where I nominated it and moved on without a second thought. There was also an interest in how it would rank because I didn't expect "Fresh Goes Better" to be a hit when I nominated it before (or someone else nominated it and I nominated it again later? It's 1am), so... I'm not surprised, I'm not sad, I'm glad it's my first one out, and if anything, I'm getting Radiohead's "Idioteque" flashbacks right now with "Welcome to the Black Parade," like am I just not getting why people rave about it?

EDIT:RE:#375 "(First Reaction: Why is this song not ending? How am I only two minutes into this song and why does it feel so much longer? Is this some type of torture device that disrupts the flow of time to prolong the listener's suffering?" FOR REAL

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PIayer_0
04/30/24 1:48:10 AM
#35:


I read all the extra nom notifications, but this has been going so fast for my brain that I'll just stick with my initial 4+4! Hopefully the powers above won't consider Minnie the Moocher to be too political...

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04/30/24 7:57:20 AM
#36:


NFUN posted...
I strongly disagree with you. Pandasan Youchien is absolutely not the ideal of a 23.07. It's the opposite; it's perhaps the only song I've heard where I'd think any score from 0 to 100 is 100% justified. 23.07 is a correct answer, but not the correct answer


Fair enough. I still find it fascinating how consistent it's been, don't usually see that from my rankings.

Snake5555555555 posted...
Last place T_T

I definitely was not expecting that but I get the explanation. I'd probably wager you wouldn't like Scene Queen's other work which all have very similar vibes of super girly pop mixed with metal and based around sexually empowering women.


Sorry, but something had to come in last and the more explicit songs have always been a bit dicey. I'll definitely listen to that 18+ song that was posted later though and see how it fares.

DanKirby posted...
Wasn't tagged, but I'm here anyway.


Oh geez, I'm sorry about that. I really don't know how that happened... I swear I remember typing out your name--I wasn't going to tag those who had used their nominations, so that list had mostly shortened versions of people's names (eg.Bane and Snake instead of their full names), but your name was already short and I didn't know if you had a preferred shortened version, so I typed your full name out... and... somehow deleted it while I was copying everyone else's full usernames in once I decided to tag them after all? That doesn't make sense, but I swear I remember typing yours out.

(This is as opposed to Iceman, who was definitely missed entirely. Went over the full list again and I'm fairly confident that you were the only two that were missed?)

Mega_Mana posted...
Wow. This is "Welcome to the Black Parade?" I thought I'd heard it before, but apparently not and I am underwhelmed by the hype.


Thank you! Considering the rave reviews it and the entire album had at Rank the Albums, I was pretty sure I was the only one that just couldn't get what the appeal was.

PIayer_0 posted...
I read all the extra nom notifications, but this has been going so fast for my brain that I'll just stick with my initial 4+4! Hopefully the powers above won't consider Minnie the Moocher to be too political...


That's fine. And I'm sure that song will be fine; putting aside my initial meltdown, neither I nor the song actually make any political comments beyond "yep, that homeless crisis sure is a crisis" & if that triggers the mods than we're in worse shape than I could have imagined.

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All songs should be added to the public list, with Raka's additional character notes added. There was a brief internet hiccup that delayed things a bit, but I think it all got saved correctly this time.

List of post topic songs has been updated:

ZA'LIST 2024:

+++++++++++++++

SONGS:

Boomhauer sings Rap God
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmmHoam7y5U

If System of a Down Were from India
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi106DZJhuQ

Scene Queen | 18+
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2L57iEai79I

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ALBUMS:

Ayreon | The Human Equation

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Though anyone with extra nominations could take those songs and make them actual ranking songs instead of post ranking songs, which is a weird coincidence I hadn't thought of. Well, that's unlikely and I'm neither encouraging or discouraging that outcome.

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NBIceman
04/30/24 2:24:11 PM
#37:


I'll throw in my two cents, I guess, since I don't participate in Rank the Albums!

I love the entire Black Parade album. I wouldn't consider myself an MCR fan because I don't really like anything else they've ever done (including the rest of Gerard Way's creative pursuits), but that one just strikes a chord, and Welcome to the Black Parade just feels like the band tapped into something that they never quite managed before or again. They've been (somewhat rightfully) memed on for years for being kind of tryhard and melodramatic and maybe overly appealing to middle schoolers in the phase of their life that they later look back on in embarrassement, and WttBP isn't completely free of that, but it walks the line so much better and feels like it earns that melodrama a bit more. It feels somehow more honest in its emotions.

Like, the "Do or die" breakdown shouldn't really work - it's not exactly the peak of lyric writing - but it does. I dunno. Maybe it's just a song that doesn't land if you hear it for the first time later in life.

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Bane_Of_Despair
04/30/24 2:34:37 PM
#38:


Also an incredibly wrong take on MCR in general

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MacArrowny
04/30/24 7:42:26 PM
#39:


EXiNA - "DiViNE" - 4:20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsNwdl6CWoA

Keldian - Never Existed - 4:10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kCIRZaXT_0

Love Solfege - Over the Surges - 5:23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PyhSEMSgDc

After Forever - Transitory - 3:28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4oV9uCnghQ

Assemblage 23 - Opened - 5:56
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BIugRmZRTE

As for Scene Queen, I'm not sure I've heard many songs of theirs (hers?), but I think Pink Rover's pretty good.

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04/30/24 7:57:57 PM
#40:


black parade too high

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tazzyboyishere
04/30/24 8:21:32 PM
#41:


MCR fucking owns

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04/30/24 9:07:22 PM
#42:


Progress Update: The five songs from JohnBobb's post, as well as "Once in a Lifetime" have Initial Scores and preliminary write ups. Seven new songs have been posted, those will be added to the spreadsheets tomorrow. Which I think means the next elimination will be... provisionally #379 again, with last night's five songs being moved back five numbers.

Pink Rover added to ZA'LIST.

Only one elimination today. I've listened to quite a few songs and they've all gained enough points that I don't want to eliminate them today, so after two hours of music listening & write up updates, there's only one song ready to go.

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#379: Splatoon 2: Octo Expansion | Telephone's Theme (2:27)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04GHisaUguM
Nominator: @-hotdogturtle-- [5 Songs Remaining]
Character: Telephone

Initial Score: 39.26
Final Score: 26.47 [Downgraded to 23.47]

(First Impressions: Twisted circus music. I like the parts that sound like synthetic vocals, those are quite nice... but the circus type instruments are a miss and I feel like nothing really happens in the song. We have the same "not really lyrics" that are just looped, followed by some monotonous circus music, followed by the looped vocals, followed by the circus, and it's all a bit... dull, by the end. I'm sorry, but as nice as that voice and the effects applied to it are, it's really let down by the rest of the song.)

I do like those vocalizations, but I kinda hate the actual music so I'm going to knock this down a tier. While it's not a long song, it feels like it runs out of things to do after about eight seconds.

[Later: This is basically 8 seconds looped for two and a half minutes. I think this might have fared better if it stopped after eight seconds because the song is rather over by that point anyway. Vocals that are reversed and distorted can only carry things so far and while I think it's a very novel nomination, it's another one of those songs that falls a little lower each time I listen to it.]

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04/30/24 11:19:15 PM
#43:


Spark_Garou posted...
Seven new songs have been posted, those will be added to the spreadsheets tomorrow. Which I think means the next elimination will be... provisionally #379


...379 - 5 + 7 is not 379 and it took me way too long to notice that. I'll fix the numbering tomorrow.

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05/01/24 12:45:17 AM
#44:


Lol RIP, usually in these topics I end up with the results that go up on each ranking, not down.

At least this sets up for all my other songs since I went with a themed nom list.

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Spark_Garou
05/01/24 5:40:31 PM
#45:


The rest of rwlh's songs have preliminary scores & writeups.

Only two eliminations today, there's some stuff Fluttershy really wants to do so we're taking an early night. Now to fix the numbering:

#387: Finger
#386: Makeba
#385: Star Spangled Man
#384: Welcome to the Black Parade
#383: Pandasan Youchien
#382: Telephone's Theme

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#381: Lady Gaga/Fiki - Skibidi Bop Yes Yes Yes x Bloody Mary (3:03)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rTmVjPqK68
Nominator: @paulg235 [14 Songs Remaining]

Initial Score: 39.48
Final Score: 39.48

(First Reaction: [Before Listening]

I have no idea what this is, but the title leads me to suspect you're aiming to find a legendary 0 point song, that which is so abominable that it cannot be valued at all and is said to just be a myth. I fear to click it.

[After]

Well, I don't hate it. I don't think I care for either of this mash up's component songs, but this is... fine? For a childish meme song, it's... not something I have the energy to actively dislike, which puts it above a fair number of other songs.)

I want to type something here, but I also don't. This song is just... something that exists. It's...existent.

[Later: Another very consistent song which I still have nothing to say about.]

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#380: LINGUA IGNOTA - THE ORDER OF SPIRITUAL VIRGINS (9:11)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfnEYePSo6w
Nominator: @Johnbobb [9 Songs Remaining]

Initial Score: 41.14
Final Score: 41.19

(First Reaction: Slow and plodding, though I like some of the instrumental parts here. There's a heavy tone to them that is somewhat pleasing and the heavy, chaotic banging that starts around 4:20-ish is actually nice. I wouldn't want an entire song of that crashing, but used sparingly like this, it is fairly neat. I do wish they varied the banging up a bit.... it kinda feels like the same notes being played on the same schedule, so what starts as a burst of sudden chaos begins feeling rather routine by the end.

I'm fairly neutral about the spoken word sample at the end. I usually go for those, but the audio on it is so low that you can barely hear him and I... well, I'm just not interested in his speech about silence & hearing the dead. I wouldn't say I dislike having the sample at the end, but I didn't care for it either.... it's just sorta there. Which is sadly how I feel about most of the song; I never really dislike it, but the only part I like is the suddenly burst of harsh atonal music & somehow that even begins routine by the end of the song.)

Ehh... it's another long song that I think didn't need to be as long as it is. The fact that it does something I really like (chaotic crashing) and then repeats doing it so often that I become bored is a bit of a mood killer. I'm also not quite getting the spoken word section at the end, which is ultimately rather dull and only serves to drag out a song that had already gone on too long. Which sounds like I hate it, but I don't. It's fine, it's just one of those "this is fine" songs.

[Later:

I am incessant


I've noticed. Trust me. Either way, I have nothing to really add here. Maybe if it were half the length that it is, but I just find that I grow bored with each component of the song long before it ends and find it difficult to listen to the whole thing as a result. It's novel enough that I don't especially dislike it, but this is about as far as it can go.]

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Bane_Of_Despair
05/01/24 6:01:26 PM
#46:


Based Lingua Ignota nomination

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Johnbobb
05/01/24 6:05:24 PM
#47:


Bane_Of_Despair posted...
Based Lingua Ignota nomination
Hell yeah

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Snake5555555555
05/01/24 6:13:44 PM
#48:


Her latest Gospel album was incredible

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Johnbobb
05/01/24 7:11:37 PM
#49:


Snake5555555555 posted...
Her latest Gospel album was incredible
I considered nominating All of My Friends Are Going to Hell!

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Haste_2
05/01/24 10:13:43 PM
#50:


Nominate:

Chicago - Cell Block Tango
https://youtu.be/ly3ccyTI-Js?si=OrKIotNOeG8xsDkL

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