Poll of the Day > Your thoughts on treatment of animals before going to the slaughterhouse?

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I still eat meat and am not trying to dissuade others from doing so. After looking through the upcoming California propositions I'm surprised to see one related to animals.

https://ballotpedia.org/California_Proposition_12,_Farm_Animal_Confinement_Initiative_(2018)

To my understanding the definition of free range and other lingo related to the living conditions of animals might vary or be vague depending on who you ask. At a glance it seems this proposition is trying to narrow down how animals are treated but in my opinion stating that animals cannot be confined in a cruel manner might still be kinda vague.

Personally I feel there could be a balance between how they're treated and the cost of production. I'm willing to stomach, no pun intended, the extra cost if it means Babe and friends are better treated before meeting their makers. Of course what that balance is might be beyond me.

What are your thoughts on the treatment of animals before going to the slaughterhouse?

Comments and opinions are appreciated,

Thank you
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It's simply not possible to treat animals in any decent manner at the massive scale they are bred and slaughtered. There are not enough people to offer humane treatment. Even animals raised well are still sent to the same slaughterhouses to walk this same death line. That line where animals are routinely abused, maimed, and not quickly killed before being hacked up, often still conscious and struggling.

It would cost you a lot of money to buy any meat treated differently. Those terms used are vague and offer consumers some peace of mind for not actually improving living conditions.
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I mean, I honestly can't imagine what kind of heartless bastard would pick anything other than the first option.

In an ideal setting, why wouldn't you want the first option?

I love eating meat. But I also believe higher thinking animals (such as mammals) should be treated with kindness. Or at least mercy. You know what I mean?

Besides, many studies have proven than free range meats are actually better for humans to consume, so the better treatment of the animals we ultimately end up eating is beneficial to both parties involved.

Cramming a chicken into a cage the same size as its own body and pumping it full of hormones and chemicals so it can prematurely be tossed into a woodchipper and made into chicken nuggets.....is fucking heartless. And that's no exaggeration. That is literally how it is in a lot of cases.

Not only is that "meat" the lowest possible quality imaginable (because the poor bird never even got to exercise its own muscles and circulatory system), but it's even LOWER quality of life for the bird itself.

Some industries are just comprised of heartless bastards wearing fancy suits who are never on the killing floor (and often never even consume the actual product they are making) and just sit in business meetings and look at numbers. See how they can maximize profits without even taking morality into consideration.

I dunno.

America only cares about money. Morals come last.
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GreenKnight127 posted...

I love eating meat. But I also believe higher thinking animals (such as mammals) should be treated with kindness. Or at least mercy. You know what I mean?

Wouldn't kindness and mercy be not stealing their children, not confining them, not killing them? As in not eating them or their products

GreenKnight127 posted...

America only cares about money. Morals come last.

Year but you can get a heavily subsidized dollar cheeseburger from someone who makes so little that they need government assistance! Yay America
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Doctor Foxx posted...

It would cost you a lot of money to buy any meat treated differently. Those terms used are vague and offer consumers some peace of mind for not actually improving living conditions.

On a completely unrelated note, would you feel such propositions are a waste of money if they serve more to ease the guilt of consumers and pointless if the cost needed to make a difference is unrealistic to be spent? Or still worth spending if it makes an ounce of a difference? I believe you're a vegan and can understand you preferring people not eating meat at all but what would you consider the "lesser of two evils" in this situation?
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InfestedAdam posted...

Doctor Foxx posted...

It would cost you a lot of money to buy any meat treated differently. Those terms used are vague and offer consumers some peace of mind for not actually improving living conditions.

On a completely unrelated note, would you feel such propositions are a waste of money if they serve more to ease the guilt of consumers and pointless if the cost needed to make a difference is unrealistic to be spent? Or still worth spending if it makes an ounce of a difference?

I believe you're a vegan and can understand you preferring people not eating meat at all but what would you consider the "lesser of two evils" in this situation?

I don't think it's a waste

But treating animals a little more well and feeling good about that while still killing them unnecessarily because meat tastes good is like selling candy to raise money for diabetes research
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treat them well. they are gonna die and no need to be cruel about it. slashing costs only makes a bunch of rich fuckbags in suits richer anyway. who cares about those old cock suckers? let em make less
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Humans should just eat less meat tbh

America is the only country in the world where am average citizen consumes over 100 lbs of meat annually.

I eat a ton of eggs, but as far as meat goes, it's mostly fish and poultry, about 1 pound a week

Rad_Chad posted...

treat them well. they are gonna die and no need to be cruel about it. slashing costs only makes a bunch of rich fuckbags in suits richer anyway. who cares about those old cock suckers? let em make less

I like you, stick around lol

GanglyKhan posted...

Humans should just eat less meat tbh

America is the only country in the world where am average citizen consumes over 100 lbs of meat annually.

I eat a ton of eggs, but as far as meat goes, it's mostly fish and poultry, about 1 pound a week

Personally I should be and am slowly cutting down for health reasons. I'll enjoy a good steak or lamb for special occasions but don't think I can eat that, pork, or chicken on a daily basics.
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