Current Events > It's still dumb that Elden Ring has no quest log.

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hockeybub89 02/11/23 11:19:29 AM #1:	I'm not complaining about combat difficulty. I'm not saying there should be waypoints and GPS and the text and dialog screaming at me to do a thing. I just wanted a tab on the menu where I could be reminded of what the hell I was doing, especially when some side quests could be 20-30 hours in between doing any part of it. I still contend that Elden Ring suffers in some aspects from moving Souls to such a massive open-world. I also like environmental puzzle games, but they'd be less fun if you didn't know that the puzzle covered 200 square miles, and that there'd be a bunch of other puzzles and distractions in that general direction. And if you forgot, whoops, should have had better memory. Replay the 100-hour game 3 times please. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:971492053] in It's still... [t:80344407]...</cite> <quote>I'm not complaining about combat difficulty. I'm not saying there should be waypoints and GPS and the text and dialog screaming at me to do a thing. I just wanted a tab on the menu where I could be reminded of what the hell I was doing, especially when some side quests could be 20-30 hours in between doing any part of it. I still contend that Elden Ring suffers in some aspects from moving Souls to such a massive open-world.I also like environmental puzzle games, but they'd be less fun if you didn't know that the puzzle covered 200 square miles, and that there'd be a bunch of other puzzles and distractions in that general direction. And if you forgot, whoops, should have had better memory. Replay the 100-hour game 3 times please.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BurmesePenguin 02/11/23 11:21:44 AM #2:	No. <cite>BurmesePenguin posted [p:971492098] in It's still... [t:80344407]...</cite> <quote>No.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 02/11/23 11:23:19 AM #3:	bUt iT wOuLd RuIn ThE iNtRiCaTe ImMeRsIvE sToRy Ugh I love the game but it's immune to criticism in some peoples eyes --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:971492122] in It's still... [t:80344407]...</cite> <quote>bUt iT wOuLd RuIn ThE iNtRiCaTe ImMeRsIvE sToRy Ugh I love the game but it's immune to criticism in some peoples eyes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 02/11/23 11:29:41 AM #4:	BurmesePenguin posted... No. "Don't you remember that random encounter you had in that one area? Fuck you for beating the next boss in that other area before going to a third different area and combing every inch of it for the next encounter! Do better next playthrough, scrub!" --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:971492212] in It's still... [t:80344407]...</cite> <quote>BurmesePenguin posted... </cite><quote>No.</quote>"Don't you remember that random encounter you had in that one area? Fuck you for beating the next boss in that other area before going to a third different area and combing every inch of it for the next encounter! Do better next playthrough, scrub!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NecroFoul99 02/11/23 11:30:15 AM #5:	hockeybub89 posted... I'm not complaining about combat difficulty. I'm not saying there should be waypoints and GPS and the text and dialog screaming at me to do a thing. I just wanted a tab on the menu where I could be reminded of what the hell I was doing, especially when some side quests could be 20-30 hours in between doing any part of it. I still contend that Elden Ring suffers in some aspects from moving Souls to such a massive open-world. I also like environmental puzzle games, but they'd be less fun if you didn't know that the puzzle covered 200 square miles, and that there'd be a bunch of other puzzles and distractions in that general direction. And if you forgot, whoops, should have had better memory. Replay the 100-hour game 3 times please. Use map markers. They are actually extremely useful. --- If you have to lie to make your point, then you're just a liar who has no point. <cite>NecroFoul99 posted [p:971492222] in It's still... [t:80344407]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>I'm not complaining about combat difficulty. I'm not saying there should be waypoints and GPS and the text and dialog screaming at me to do a thing. I just wanted a tab on the menu where I could be reminded of what the hell I was doing, especially when some side quests could be 20-30 hours in between doing any part of it. I still contend that Elden Ring suffers in some aspects from moving Souls to such a massive open-world.I also like environmental puzzle games, but they'd be less fun if you didn't know that the puzzle covered 200 square miles, and that there'd be a bunch of other puzzles and distractions in that general direction. And if you forgot, whoops, should have had better memory. Replay the 100-hour game 3 times please.</quote>Use map markers. They are actually extremely useful. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BurmesePenguin 02/11/23 11:31:04 AM #6:	I understand that. Still no. <cite>BurmesePenguin posted [p:971492235] in It's still... [t:80344407]...</cite> <quote>I understand that.Still no.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 02/11/23 11:32:15 AM #7:	I don't know how you could possibly be expected to finish NPC questlines without using a guide. --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:971492254] in It's still... [t:80344407]...</cite> <quote>I don't know how you could possibly be expected to finish NPC questlines without using a guide.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ratchetrockon 02/11/23 11:32:31 AM #8:	the lack of quest log is what made elden ring goty of 2022 though. if it had quest log it'd just be another generic open world game --- I'm a Taurus. Currently playing: Darkwood, The Forest, Hi-Fi Rush, The Longest Journey, and Spyro 3 w/ randomiser mod <cite>Ratchetrockon posted [p:971492257] in It's still... [t:80344407]...</cite> <quote>the lack of quest log is what made elden ring goty of 2022 though. if it had quest log it'd just be another generic open world game </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unknown5uspect 02/11/23 11:32:37 AM #9:	But the devs want you to use pen and paper to keep up with the dumbass bullshit in this game. --- #EatTheRich <cite>Unknown5uspect posted [p:971492260] in It's still... [t:80344407]...</cite> <quote>But the devs want you to use pen and paper to keep up with the dumbass bullshit in this game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordFarquad1312 02/11/23 11:33:25 AM #10:	UnholyMudcrab posted... I don't know how you could possibly be expected to finish NPC questlines without using a guide. Write them down, make a cork board with conections. Which is dumb, we don't live in the 80's anymore. --- El sexo sucio y el planeta limpio. "If you are tired of fear from links... Let Kirby's Nightmare protect you." <cite>LordFarquad1312 posted [p:971492276] in It's still... [t:80344407]...</cite> <quote>UnholyMudcrab posted... </cite><quote>I don't know how you could possibly be expected to finish NPC questlines without using a guide.</quote>Write them down, make a cork board with conections.Which is dumb, we don't live in the 80's anymore. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AloneIBreak 02/11/23 11:34:14 AM #11:	Agreed. I started my first play through and got distracted for a couple weeks. I came back to it this morning and I dont remember what Im supposed to be doing. --- "The civilized man, where he cannot admire, will aim rather at understanding than at reprobating." - Bertrand Russell <cite>AloneIBreak posted [p:971492287] in It's still... [t:80344407]...</cite> <quote>Agreed. I started my first play through and got distracted for a couple weeks. I came back to it this morning and I dont remember what Im supposed to be doing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Garioshi 02/11/23 11:34:19 AM #12:	Doom_Art posted... bUt iT wOuLd RuIn ThE iNtRiCaTe ImMeRsIvE sToRy Ugh I love the game but it's immune to criticism in some peoples eyes bro 50 billion copies sold lmaoooooo --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 <cite>Garioshi posted [p:971492289] in It's still... [t:80344407]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite><quote>bUt iT wOuLd RuIn ThE iNtRiCaTe ImMeRsIvE sToRy Ugh I love the game but it's immune to criticism in some peoples eyes</quote>bro 50 billion copies sold lmaoooooo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DezDroppedFreak 02/11/23 11:36:26 AM #13:	personally I love that it does not have one. People are memeing about immersion but not having a checklist genuinely does help their games feel special. Wouldnt care if they eventually introduced one in future entries. Im sure they could find a way to do so thats still insanely obtuse. Map markers were essentially that. could make it a new game plus and onward feature --- I feel like Ratatouille when I'm whipping that cheddar RIP Brockhampton <cite>DezDroppedFreak posted [p:971492326] in It's still... [t:80344407]...</cite> <quote>personally I love that it does not have one. People are memeing about immersion but not having a checklist genuinely does help their games feel special. Wouldnt care if they eventually introduced one in future entries. Im sure they could find a way to do so thats still insanely obtuse. Map markers were essentially that. could make it a new game plus and onward feature</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 02/11/23 11:37:15 AM #14:	I understand your frustration, but I also think you shouldn't be approaching most of the Elden Ring NPCs like you would in a typical RPG. Finding the reoccurring characters again is part of the endless discovery of the game. Or do you mean more like a glossary of everyone you met and what they last were doing? That'd be pretty cool actually. --- https://imgur.com/gallery/dXDmJHw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75GL-BYZFfY <cite>Doe posted [p:971492334] in It's still... [t:80344407]...</cite> <quote>I understand your frustration, but I also think you shouldn't be approaching most of the Elden Ring NPCs like you would in a typical RPG. Finding the reoccurring characters again is part of the endless discovery of the game. Or do you mean more like a glossary of everyone you met and what they last were doing? That'd be pretty cool actually.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 02/11/23 11:37:25 AM #15:	Doom_Art posted... bUt iT wOuLd RuIn ThE iNtRiCaTe ImMeRsIvE sToRy Ugh I love the game but it's immune to criticism in some peoples eyes It is a good Souls game with combat improvements. It's telling the same type of story as every other Souls game, but with even bigger lags between cutscenes, and that's fine! I like that kind of storytelling, but it's not reinventing storytelling as a concept. I also love David Lynch movies and Twin Peaks. Doesn't mean I shriek at less obtuse and vague writing for being inferior and outdated. Not saying all Souls fans are like this, but funny how the "It's not for you. Play something else" crowd want Elden Ring to be the template by which all other games are judged. "This game is linear. It's stupid. This game is too easy. It's stupid. This game is cinematic and tries to be emotional. It's stupid! This game isn't from Miyazaki! Stupid!" --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:971492338] in It's still... [t:80344407]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite><quote>bUt iT wOuLd RuIn ThE iNtRiCaTe ImMeRsIvE sToRy Ugh I love the game but it's immune to criticism in some peoples eyes</quote>It is a good Souls game with combat improvements. It's telling the same type of story as every other Souls game, but with even bigger lags between cutscenes, and that's fine! I like that kind of storytelling, but it's not reinventing storytelling as a concept. I also love David Lynch movies and Twin Peaks. Doesn't mean I shriek at less obtuse and vague writing for being inferior and outdated. Not saying all Souls fans are like this, but funny how the "It's not for you. Play something else" crowd want Elden Ring to be the template by which all other games are judged. "This game is linear. It's stupid. This game is too easy. It's stupid. This game is cinematic and tries to be emotional. It's stupid! This game isn't from Miyazaki! Stupid!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Alteres 02/11/23 11:39:32 AM #16:	I thought they added something like this in the update that nerfed the mimic and my sword of flame and night or whatever? --- ........the ghost in the machine... IGN: Fox, FC: 5344-2646-0982 <cite>Alteres posted [p:971492371] in It's still... [t:80344407]...</cite> <quote>I thought they added something like this in the update that nerfed the mimic and my sword of flame and night or whatever?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 02/11/23 11:40:02 AM #17:	NecroFoul99 posted... Use map markers. They are actually extremely useful. I use the map markers a lot. I honestly like that part and wish more games let you have that kind of control. UnholyMudcrab posted... I don't know how you could possibly be expected to finish NPC questlines without using a guide. And it sucks because you'll inevitably spoil yourself, if you care about that. AloneIBreak posted... Agreed. I started my first play through and got distracted for a couple weeks. I came back to it this morning and I dont remember what Im supposed to be doing. Exactly! You can't take breaks! --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:971492381] in It's still... [t:80344407]...</cite> <quote>NecroFoul99 posted... </cite><quote>Use map markers. They are actually extremely useful.</quote>I use the map markers a lot. I honestly like that part and wish more games let you have that kind of control.UnholyMudcrab posted... </cite><quote>I don't know how you could possibly be expected to finish NPC questlines without using a guide.</quote>And it sucks because you'll inevitably spoil yourself, if you care about that.AloneIBreak posted... </cite><quote>Agreed. I started my first play through and got distracted for a couple weeks. I came back to it this morning and I dont remember what Im supposed to be doing.</quote>Exactly! You can't take breaks!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ratchetrockon 02/11/23 11:40:53 AM #18:	Alteres posted... I thought they added something like this in the update that nerfed the mimic and my sword of flame and night or whatever? npc locations but i remember ppl still complaining about them. i had already experienced majority of the game by the time that released tho and didn't feel like doing any more side quests so i never test it out --- I'm a Taurus. Currently playing: Darkwood, The Forest, Hi-Fi Rush, The Longest Journey, and Spyro 3 w/ randomiser mod <cite>Ratchetrockon posted [p:971492396] in It's still... [t:80344407]...</cite> <quote>Alteres posted... </cite><quote>I thought they added something like this in the update that nerfed the mimic and my sword of flame and night or whatever?</quote>npc locations but i remember ppl still complaining about them. i had already experienced majority of the game by the time that released tho and didn't feel like doing any more side quests so i never test it out </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Seaman_Prime 02/11/23 11:40:54 AM #19:	Who da fuck needs a quest just go around and kill shit thats the game. <cite>Seaman_Prime posted [p:971492398] in It's still... [t:80344407]...</cite> <quote>Who da fuck needs a quest just go around and kill shit thats the game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 02/11/23 11:44:38 AM #21:	DezDroppedFreak posted... personally I love that it does not have one. People are memeing about immersion but not having a checklist genuinely does help their games feel special. Wouldnt care if they eventually introduced one in future entries. Im sure they could find a way to do so thats still insanely obtuse. Map markers were essentially that. could make it a new game plus and onward feature It's just annoying imo. Like, there's a middle ground between tossing you into the middle of the Sahara without a map and literally picking you up and carrying you to every objective. I know it's a bad word for some fans, but a few more "options" would be nice. Doe posted... I understand your frustration, but I also think you shouldn't be approaching most of the Elden Ring NPCs like you would in a typical RPG. Finding the reoccurring characters again is part of the endless discovery of the game. Or do you mean more like a glossary of everyone you met and what they last were doing? That'd be pretty cool actually. Yeah, just something to remind me what the hell I'm doing. A glossary does sound cool. I wish EVERY game had that and a bestiary for lore sake. I totally get not turning it into Skyrim or whatever. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:971492465] in It's still... [t:80344407]...</cite> <quote>DezDroppedFreak posted... </cite><quote>personally I love that it does not have one. People are memeing about immersion but not having a checklist genuinely does help their games feel special. Wouldnt care if they eventually introduced one in future entries. Im sure they could find a way to do so thats still insanely obtuse. Map markers were essentially that.could make it a new game plus and onward feature</quote>It's just annoying imo. Like, there's a middle ground between tossing you into the middle of the Sahara without a map and literally picking you up and carrying you to every objective. I know it's a bad word for some fans, but a few more "options" would be nice.Doe posted... </cite><quote>I understand your frustration, but I also think you shouldn't be approaching most of the Elden Ring NPCs like you would in a typical RPG. Finding the reoccurring characters again is part of the endless discovery of the game. Or do you mean more like a glossary of everyone you met and what they last were doing? That'd be pretty cool actually.</quote>Yeah, just something to remind me what the hell I'm doing. A glossary does sound cool. I wish EVERY game had that and a bestiary for lore sake. I totally get not turning it into Skyrim or whatever.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 02/11/23 11:46:51 AM #22:	Ratchetrockon posted... npc locations but i remember ppl still complaining about them. i had already experienced majority of the game by the time that released tho and didn't feel like doing any more side quests so i never test it out I think it marks NPCs if you have found them at a location. If they move, got to find them again. I'm cool with that. Just want a reminder that I was doing something --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:971492506] in It's still... [t:80344407]...</cite> <quote>Ratchetrockon posted... </cite><quote>npc locations but i remember ppl still complaining about them. i had already experienced majority of the game by the time that released tho and didn't feel like doing any more side quests so i never test it out</quote>I think it marks NPCs if you have found them at a location. If they move, got to find them again. I'm cool with that. Just want a reminder that I was doing something</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EndOfDiscOne 02/11/23 11:48:29 AM #23:	git gud --- I am the Cheese! I am the best character on the show! I am better than both the salami and the bologna *COMBINED!* <cite>EndOfDiscOne posted [p:971492540] in It's still... [t:80344407]...</cite> <quote>git gud</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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itachi15243 02/11/23 11:50:23 AM #25:	I don't know about a full quest log, but it would be nice to just have some sort of diary with stuff like: talked to: So and so On: this date In: this area Notes: something about what they said. It would make it so much easier to deal with npcs stuff after taking a few weeks off from the game. Most people are gonna use a guide for that stuff anyway, and it doesn't take off the exploration aspect as far as I can see. The npcs are already on the map anyways. --- I do drawings and stuff https://www.fiverr.com/blueblitz <cite>itachi15243 posted [p:971492575] in It's still... [t:80344407]...</cite> <quote>I don't know about a full quest log, but it would be nice to just have some sort of diary with stuff like: talked to: So and so On: this dateIn: this area Notes: something about what they said. It would make it so much easier to deal with npcs stuff after taking a few weeks off from the game. Most people are gonna use a guide for that stuff anyway, and it doesn't take off the exploration aspect as far as I can see. The npcs are already on the map anyways. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GrandConjuraton 02/11/23 11:50:33 AM #26:	BurmesePenguin posted... No. --- You shouldn't have taken the apple down from the tree. https://imgur.com/o21DN7r <cite>GrandConjuraton posted [p:971492580] in It's still... [t:80344407]...</cite> <quote>BurmesePenguin posted... </cite><quote>No.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 02/11/23 11:58:46 AM #27:	Doom_Art posted... bUt iT wOuLd RuIn ThE iNtRiCaTe ImMeRsIvE sToRy Ugh I love the game but it's immune to criticism in some peoples eyes You're immune to understanding people want just one series to not have everything all other games have that take away from figuring it out themselves. Why do you gotta have every game and can't even just let people who don't have what they want get one. People like it and you don't care if you take it away from them as long as you get every game to cater to you specifically I kept a notebook. --- Name checks out "I don't wanna be the toughest, I just keep it 100 and think nothin of it"- Black Thought <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:971492714] in It's still... [t:80344407]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite><quote>bUt iT wOuLd RuIn ThE iNtRiCaTe ImMeRsIvE sToRy Ugh I love the game but it's immune to criticism in some peoples eyes</quote>You're immune to understanding people want just one series to not have everything all other games have that take away from figuring it out themselves. Why do you gotta have every game and can't even just let people who don't have what they want get one. People like it and you don't care if you take it away from them as long as you get every game to cater to you specifically I kept a notebook. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 02/11/23 12:00:31 PM #28:	Lost_All_Senses posted... You're immune to understanding people want just one series to not have everything all other games have that take away from figuring it out themselves. Why do you gotta have every game and can't even just let people who don't have what they want get one. I kept a notebook. A notebook isn't gonna help you when an NPC warps to a completely different part of the world and when you eventually get there, it locks out another questline with no indication. --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:971492741] in It's still... [t:80344407]...</cite> <quote>Lost_All_Senses posted... </cite><quote>You're immune to understanding people want just one series to not have everything all other games have that take away from figuring it out themselves. Why do you gotta have every game and can't even just let people who don't have what they want get one. I kept a notebook.</quote>A notebook isn't gonna help you when an NPC warps to a completely different part of the world and when you eventually get there, it locks out another questline with no indication.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Hinakuluiau 02/11/23 12:03:50 PM #30:	Gamers are so entitled. Your don't go to a 5 star restaurant and expect to change dishes, you eat what the chef prepared because they know better than you You want your game to cater to you then you get the McDonald's of video games --- There are some things where I just bypass critical thinking. - ROD <cite>Hinakuluiau posted [p:971492802] in It's still... [t:80344407]...</cite> <quote>Gamers are so entitled. Your don't go to a 5 star restaurant and expect to change dishes, you eat what the chef prepared because they know better than youYou want your game to cater to you then you get the McDonald's of video games</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 02/11/23 12:03:50 PM #31:	UnholyMudcrab posted... A notebook isn't gonna help you when an NPC warps to a completely different part of the world and when you eventually get there, it locks out another questline with no indication. I love the warps lol. Iunno. Im not a completionist and I like the idea of letting the cards fall where they may and then also having the option to research it on a different playthrough if I want. It only really bothers people who can't just enjoy the ride. The chance of missing out ups my alertness to a level where in other games I don't have to put in any effort towards it. --- Name checks out "I don't wanna be the toughest, I just keep it 100 and think nothin of it"- Black Thought <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:971492803] in It's still... [t:80344407]...</cite> <quote>UnholyMudcrab posted... </cite><quote>A notebook isn't gonna help you when an NPC warps to a completely different part of the world and when you eventually get there, it locks out another questline with no indication.</quote>I love the warps lol. Iunno. Im not a completionist and I like the idea of letting the cards fall where they may and then also having the option to research it on a different playthrough if I want. It only really bothers people who can't just enjoy the ride. The chance of missing out ups my alertness to a level where in other games I don't have to put in any effort towards it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 02/11/23 12:04:40 PM #32:	Lost_All_Senses posted... You're immune to understanding people want just one series to not have everything all other games have that take away from figuring it out themselves. Why do you gotta have every game and can't even just let people who don't have what they want get one. People like it and you don't care if you take it away from them as long as you get every game to cater to you specifically I kept a notebook. TIL I own two games: Elden Ring and everything else itachi15243 posted... I don't know about a full quest log, but it would be nice to just have some sort of diary with stuff like: talked to: So and so On: this date In: this area Notes: something about what they said. It would make it so much easier to deal with npcs stuff after taking a few weeks off from the game. Most people are gonna use a guide for that stuff anyway, and it doesn't take off the exploration aspect as far as I can see. The npcs are already on the map anyways. This!!! This!!! --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:971492816] in It's still... [t:80344407]...</cite> <quote>Lost_All_Senses posted... </cite><quote>You're immune to understanding people want just one series to not have everything all other games have that take away from figuring it out themselves. Why do you gotta have every game and can't even just let people who don't have what they want get one. People like it and you don't care if you take it away from them as long as you get every game to cater to you specificallyI kept a notebook.</quote>TIL I own two games: Elden Ring and everything elseitachi15243 posted... </cite><quote>I don't know about a full quest log, but it would be nice to just have some sort of diary with stuff like: talked to: So and so On: this dateIn: this area Notes: something about what they said. It would make it so much easier to deal with npcs stuff after taking a few weeks off from the game. Most people are gonna use a guide for that stuff anyway, and it doesn't take off the exploration aspect as far as I can see. The npcs are already on the map anyways.</quote>This!!! This!!!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 02/11/23 12:05:19 PM #33:	hockeybub89 posted... TIL I own two games: Elden Ring and everything else Bad nothing response because you don't have a real response to excuse being entitled --- Name checks out "I don't wanna be the toughest, I just keep it 100 and think nothin of it"- Black Thought <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:971492830] in It's still... [t:80344407]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>TIL I own two games: Elden Ring and everything else</quote>Bad nothing response because you don't have a real response to excuse being entitled </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 02/11/23 12:05:29 PM #34:	Lost_All_Senses posted... I love the warps lol. Iunno. Im not a completionist and I like the idea of letting the cards fall where they may and then also having the option to research it on a different playthrough if I want. It only really bothers people who can't just enjoy the ride. The chance of missing out ups my alertness to a level where in other games I don't have to put in any effort towards it. I bet you hate linear games for putting you on a ride, though. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:971492833] in It's still... [t:80344407]...</cite> <quote>Lost_All_Senses posted... </cite><quote>I love the warps lol. Iunno. Im not a completionist and I like the idea of letting the cards fall where they may and then also having the option to research it on a different playthrough if I want. It only really bothers people who can't just enjoy the ride. The chance of missing out ups my alertness to a level where in other games I don't have to put in any effort towards it.</quote>I bet you hate linear games for putting you on a ride, though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 02/11/23 12:06:03 PM #35:	hockeybub89 posted... I bet you hate linear games for putting you on a ride, though. I don't. I play linear games when Im in the mood for that experience. You can like more than one thing lol. TLoU is dope. Yakuza is dope. --- Name checks out "I don't wanna be the toughest, I just keep it 100 and think nothin of it"- Black Thought <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:971492844] in It's still... [t:80344407]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>I bet you hate linear games for putting you on a ride, though.</quote>I don't. I play linear games when Im in the mood for that experience. You can like more than one thing lol. TLoU is dope. Yakuza is dope. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 02/11/23 12:07:07 PM #36:	Lost_All_Senses posted... Bad nothing response because you don't have a real response to excuse being entitled "All other games are the same and you can't let us free-thinking real gamers have one series to ourselves" doesn't really warrant a great response. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:971492868] in It's still... [t:80344407]...</cite> <quote>Lost_All_Senses posted... </cite><quote>Bad nothing response because you don't have a real response to excuse being entitled</quote>"All other games are the same and you can't let us free-thinking real gamers have one series to ourselves" doesn't really warrant a great response.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 02/11/23 12:07:51 PM #37:	Lost_All_Senses posted... I don't. I play linear games when Im in the mood for that experience. You can like more than one thing lol. TLoU is dope. Yakuza is dope. And Elden Ring would be dope even if someone could come back to the game after a week or two and not be lost. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:971492882] in It's still... [t:80344407]...</cite> <quote>Lost_All_Senses posted... </cite><quote>I don't. I play linear games when Im in the mood for that experience. You can like more than one thing lol. TLoU is dope. Yakuza is dope.</quote>And Elden Ring would be dope even if someone could come back to the game after a week or two and not be lost.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lost_All_Senses 02/11/23 12:08:15 PM #38:	hockeybub89 posted... "All other games are the same and you can't let us free-thinking real gamers have one series to ourselves" doesn't really warrant a great response. >_>. Anyone who doesn't agree with you reads this way different than you think lol. They know it's a good point. --- Name checks out "I don't wanna be the toughest, I just keep it 100 and think nothin of it"- Black Thought <cite>Lost_All_Senses posted [p:971492886] in It's still... [t:80344407]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>"All other games are the same and you can't let us free-thinking real gamers have one series to ourselves" doesn't really warrant a great response.</quote>>_>. Anyone who doesn't agree with you reads this way different than you think lol. They know it's a good point. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SHRlKE 02/11/23 12:09:05 PM #39:	The game isnt designed to 100% it and for some reason people cant accept that. Its meant to create a unique experience for every player. If you want your hand holding while working your way through a massive checklist then go play assassins creed. <cite>SHRlKE posted [p:971492901] in It's still... [t:80344407]...</cite> <quote>The game isnt designed to 100% it and for some reason people cant accept that. Its meant to create a unique experience for every player. If you want your hand holding while working your way through a massive checklist then go play assassins creed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hinakuluiau 02/11/23 12:09:40 PM #40:	hockeybub89 posted... "All other games are the same and you can't let us free-thinking real gamers have one series to ourselves" doesn't really warrant a great response. It's a great point though There are a thousand linear games. There are a thousand open world games that hold your hand How many games are like ER that don't care if you miss entire questlines? Letting the fans of that style have one good game like that doesn't take away from the million Ubisoft or GoW/TLoU type games that hold your hand --- There are some things where I just bypass critical thinking. - ROD <cite>Hinakuluiau posted [p:971492917] in It's still... [t:80344407]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>"All other games are the same and you can't let us free-thinking real gamers have one series to ourselves" doesn't really warrant a great response.</quote>It's a great point thoughThere are a thousand linear games. There are a thousand open world games that hold your handHow many games are like ER that don't care if you miss entire questlines? Letting the fans of that style have one good game like that doesn't take away from the million Ubisoft or GoW/TLoU type games that hold your hand</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 02/11/23 12:13:34 PM #41:	Lost_All_Senses posted... >_>. Anyone who doesn't agree with you reads this way different than you think lol. They know it's a good point. Games have never been more diverse and that is a fact. I don't know how I'm taking away Souls games from anyone or being entitled. By that logic, criticizing any game and merely suggesting a change (which obviously can't happen after the fact) is "entitlement". Either love the game as the creators intended it or don't play it. Do you believe that? That criticism of a game, beyond literal bugs and glitches, is just someone outside of the intended audience not getting it? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:971492999] in It's still... [t:80344407]...</cite> <quote>Lost_All_Senses posted... </cite><quote>>_>. Anyone who doesn't agree with you reads this way different than you think lol. They know it's a good point.</quote>Games have never been more diverse and that is a fact. I don't know how I'm taking away Souls games from anyone or being entitled.By that logic, criticizing any game and merely suggesting a change (which obviously can't happen after the fact) is "entitlement". Either love the game as the creators intended it or don't play it. Do you believe that? That criticism of a game, beyond literal bugs and glitches, is just someone outside of the intended audience not getting it? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Uta 02/11/23 12:16:57 PM #42:	I dont need a quest log, I just want direction. Fucking every NPC is like "Pray fate crosses our paths again" and is now in some totally new corner of the map I might have already explored and thus have no reason to return to. --- Others don't get to dictate what's normal and what isn't. It's something we decide for ourselves. <cite>Uta posted [p:971493049] in It's still... [t:80344407]...</cite> <quote>I dont need a quest log, I just want direction. Fucking every NPC is like "Pray fate crosses our paths again" and is now in some totally new corner of the map I might have already explored and thus have no reason to return to. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HudGard 02/11/23 12:20:19 PM #43:	These games are meant to have new experiences and surprises on subsequent playthroughs. OCD checklist people are just going to have a rough time. --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet <cite>HudGard posted [p:971493101] in It's still... [t:80344407]...</cite> <quote>These games are meant to have new experiences and surprises on subsequent playthroughs. OCD checklist people are just going to have a rough time.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 02/11/23 12:21:58 PM #44:	Uta posted... I dont need a quest log, I just want direction. Fucking every NPC is like "Pray fate crosses our paths again" and is now in some totally new corner of the map I might have already explored and thus have no reason to return to. Yeah, I didn't really mean a quest log, but I didn't know how to word it. Obviously we're all gonna miss stuff, but it sucks to meet a character, maybe even start liking them and then they just disappear and you never see a conclusion, never get whatever drop. Because you didn't go back to some place you cleared out (and indicated such with map markers) and they didn't even give you a verbal hint as to where they were going. Imagine if a game's main plot just kind of disappeared. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:971493130] in It's still... [t:80344407]...</cite> <quote>Uta posted... </cite><quote>I dont need a quest log, I just want direction. Fucking every NPC is like "Pray fate crosses our paths again" and is now in some totally new corner of the map I might have already explored and thus have no reason to return to.</quote>Yeah, I didn't really mean a quest log, but I didn't know how to word it. Obviously we're all gonna miss stuff, but it sucks to meet a character, maybe even start liking them and then they just disappear and you never see a conclusion, never get whatever drop. Because you didn't go back to some place you cleared out (and indicated such with map markers) and they didn't even give you a verbal hint as to where they were going.Imagine if a game's main plot just kind of disappeared.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 02/11/23 12:34:16 PM #48:	KanWan posted... nice easily the best way to describe the world and the characters of FromSoft Silent Hill characters But if that happened in another game, it would, regardless of quality, be called artsy and pretentious, unfinished, maybe even anti-consumer. [LFAQs-redacted-quote] The games are great, but sometimes maybe Miyazaki is just trolling or getting a little too smart for his own good. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:971493316] in It's still... [t:80344407]...</cite> <quote>KanWan posted... </cite><quote>nice easily the best way to describe the world and the characters of FromSoftSilent Hill characters</quote>But if that happened in another game, it would, regardless of quality, be called artsy and pretentious, unfinished, maybe even anti-consumer.<cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> The games are great, but sometimes maybe Miyazaki is just trolling or getting a little too smart for his own good.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pauIie 02/11/23 12:40:45 PM #49:	Doom_Art posted... bUt iT wOuLd RuIn ThE iNtRiCaTe ImMeRsIvE sToRy Ugh I love the game but it's immune to criticism in some peoples eyes elden ring is goated for me but the lengths people go to defend from software not adding standard ass shit that games have had for decades is insane --- http://i.imgur.com/O5APL.jpg http://www.last.fm/user/jaeganja <cite>pauIie posted [p:971493425] in It's still... [t:80344407]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted... </cite><quote>bUt iT wOuLd RuIn ThE iNtRiCaTe ImMeRsIvE sToRy Ugh I love the game but it's immune to criticism in some peoples eyes</quote>elden ring is goated for mebut the lengths people go to defend from software not adding standard ass shit that games have had for decades is insane</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jerry_Hellyeah 02/11/23 12:42:18 PM #50:	Doeverythingitis is treatable. Get some help and let normal people experience the game. --- This is a cool sig <cite>Jerry_Hellyeah posted [p:971493445] in It's still... [t:80344407]...</cite> <quote>Doeverythingitis is treatable. Get some help and let normal people experience the game.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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