Board 8 > What the hell LA Noire's ending *spoilers*

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HeroDelTiempo17
07/05/11 8:45:00 PM
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It was just so....abrupt. And then the credits roll, just to confirm that the game is over. Because otherwise you wouldn't think that.

damn this game, I don't know what to think of it anymore

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Big Bob
07/05/11 9:14:00 PM
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That game went downhill for me after Cole cheated on his wife. We're supposed to believe it was a moment of weakness and that he was unhappy with his life, but we never even see his family before that point, so there's no emotional investment.

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MoogleKupo141
07/05/11 9:17:00 PM
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I felt a little weird about the cheating, but I loved the whole last desk. John Noble was there and the end stuff reminded me of PW3 in a very good way.

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Jeff Zero
07/05/11 9:24:00 PM
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John Noble was in LA Noire? Oh god. *gets game*

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HeroDelTiempo17
07/05/11 9:28:00 PM
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From: Big Bob | #002
That game went downhill for me after Cole cheated on his wife. We're supposed to believe it was a moment of weakness and that he was unhappy with his life, but we never even see his family before that point, so there's no emotional investment.


That's part of it, I guess. One of the detectives mentions in passing that he has a wife and kids, but that's it. Plus you don't really get to see any sort of explanation - for any of it. His relationship with the singing girl, or his wife, or what was going on, none of it. Up until then he's been a generally great guy and then suddenly everyone makes him out to be a villain. There's not really any compelling reason to sympathize with him OR look down at him.

Anyways I ended up enjoying the actual Arson Desk a lot. Waaay more than I thought I would. Although part of that stems from Jack Kelso. That guy is the god damn MAN.

It's a good game, but IMO it falls just shy of being great. The overarching narrative needed a bit of polish, especially the ending and the adultery stuff. I get that it was supposed to be about Phelp's search for redemption for being a jerk in the army and the adultery thing, but the ending felt almost rushed.

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kurtfisto
07/05/11 9:48:00 PM
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I agree with you on every single account.

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StealThisSheen
07/05/11 10:02:00 PM
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During Vice, Roy tends to ask Cole about his wife/family a lot in the car convos/such, and Cole always never answers or changes the subject.

Foreshadowing.

It happens once or twice during Homicide, too.



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Big Bob
07/05/11 10:06:00 PM
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Too bad I just used the skip feature most of the time considering the driving conflicts with the tone of the game.

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Xiahou Shake
07/05/11 10:11:00 PM
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From: StealThisSheen | #007
During Vice, Roy tends to ask Cole about his wife/family a lot in the car convos/such, and Cole always never answers or changes the subject.

Foreshadowing.

It happens once or twice during Homicide, too.


Happens in Traffic too, although in one of the cases that was made dlc.

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StealThisSheen
07/05/11 10:20:00 PM
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I actually quite enjoyed it and thought it was very well played out. It tosses what you THINK you know out the window, only to make you realize what you truly knew all along.

Cole starts out seeming like basically the perfect man. He's a war hero, is genuinely interested in justice, and is an all around great guy. As the game goes on, however, you realize... That's not Cole at all. Cole is actually a weak man who doesn't want to accept his flaws. He can't stand on his own, which is why he does everything by the book, and to a fault. Instead of accepting his weakness and flaws, he runs from them, instead trying to hide them via his actions in the police force, which is basically his "redemption." It's why he's such a try hard. He WANTS to solve the big cases. He WANTS to truly be the hero that he KNOWS he isn't. In the end, however, he's simply not strong enough. He gives in to temptations, and he acts out on them by stepping out of this "perfect" life he has made for himself... By cheating. It brings him back to reality, and reminds him that he is, in fact, a very flawed human being, and he can never truly allow himself to forget all of his mistakes. His act of adultery is his way of "grounding" himself, or as the chick puts it, "Bringing him back to reality instead of the ivory tower he crafted for himself." He created this perfect, redeeming life... And yet he can't accept it because he can't let go of the past.

Jack, on the other hand, is a very strong individual. In the beginning, however, this makes him... Well, he looks like a dick. He's loud, brash, arrogant... Seems to not want to accept authority or do stuff by the book. He's the foil to Cole. The game progresses, however, and you realize... Jack is what Cole truly wants to be. Jack stood by what he knew was right, no matter what it did to him. If it was against authority? He was okay with that. Where Cole was weak and didn't question orders, Jack despised them if he knew they weren't right. Where Cole failed and fell into temptations, Jack stayed strong and remained true to who he was. He didn't pursue justice because he felt he had to in order to redeem himself... But because he knew it was right. It's why he didn't give in and take part in the initial theft of the morphine. It's why he helped Cole in the end.

It basically reverses how you perceive them. Jack seems unlikable, Cole seems like a great guy. But by the end, you realize it's the reverse. Cole was weak, Jack was strong. Jack was what Cole truly wanted to be like, but knew he couldn't.

And so on.

tl;dr:
-Cole's weak
-Jack's strong
-Rusty is awesome



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biolizardfan
07/05/11 10:27:00 PM
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I thought it went way uphill after you started playing as Jack

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StealThisSheen
07/05/11 10:28:00 PM
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Jack is awesome.

And so are his offers.



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