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OmarsComin
07/10/11 1:50:00 AM
#51:


That's just not true. Rather, the majority of the posters on this site don't actually know what the ToU says and believe theat everything they say is divine and therefore can't be deleted, because it's true/he deserved it/it's not illegal where I live/some other stupid reason.

this is like 100% objectively false. it's pretty cool because when you're contesting a moderation it lists the rule you broke, and the explanation. so you can just read everything on the page, realize there's not a single part that applies to your post, and challenge it. strangely, it is rarely overturned!

illegal activities is a big one on that. I've had a couple mods admit that my post didn't break any part of the ToS but that's how it was being enforced, I appreciated that at least.
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Menji76
07/10/11 1:59:00 AM
#52:


holy crap this topic

I remember a bunch of these stories and most of you are leaving out vital details that really got you modded

and the other half are stuff that is easily overturned


I've yet to have an unjust moderation so you guys must be lying

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X_Dante_X
07/10/11 2:02:00 AM
#53:


Let them have their fun, menji

It makes them feel better to cry about mods so let them

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OmarsComin
07/10/11 2:16:00 AM
#54:


I remember a bunch of these stories and most of you are leaving out vital details that really got you modded

and the other half are stuff that is easily overturned


modded for illegal activities for discussing an SNES emulator. I was like "I didn't do anything wrong" and the first mod was like "emulators are illegal." then I was like "no they're not, here's legal discussions. also, I didn't break a single part of the illegal activities rules section." the second mod also upheld, though mentioned that he agreed that I didn't break the ToS and that it was just one of those unwritten decisions mods went by.

later on the same year a few of us were discussing the same emulator, were modded, but that time got them overturned. how the rules are applied seems pretty vague and inconsistent. the only thing you can be sure on is that if you are actually modded, you've got a pretty small chance of getting it overturned.
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Vlado
07/10/11 2:31:00 AM
#56:


nintendogirl1 posted...
From: Vlado | #021
Except you delete a bunch of stuff that doesn't break the ToU.

That's just not true. Rather, the majority of the posters on this site don't actually know what the ToU says and believe theat everything they say is divine and therefore can't be deleted, because it's true/he deserved it/it's not illegal where I live/some other stupid reason.


Please. You know better than I do that it's completely true. I wish I saved all my moderations... And, as you can see, a bunch of people agree with me. Sorry, but while the ToU are quite well written, the competence of the people enforcing them is not always on par.

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StealThisSheen
07/10/11 2:38:00 AM
#57:


OmarsComin posted...
modded for illegal activities for discussing an SNES emulator. I was like "I didn't do anything wrong" and the first mod was like "emulators are illegal." then I was like "no they're not, here's legal discussions. also, I didn't break a single part of the illegal activities rules section." the second mod also upheld, though mentioned that he agreed that I didn't break the ToS and that it was just one of those unwritten decisions mods went by.

later on the same year a few of us were discussing the same emulator, were modded, but that time got them overturned. how the rules are applied seems pretty vague and inconsistent. the only thing you can be sure on is that if you are actually modded, you've got a pretty small chance of getting it overturned.



To be fair, it's a very wide-arcing rule.

Discussion of mod chips, custom firmware, copying games, playing copied games, cracking games, No-CD patches, piracy releases, homebrew, copyrighted ROMs, copyrighted ISOs, and basically anything related to game, movie, TV, or music piracy is not permitted.

Emulators ARE related to piracy, even if they can be used legally. Thus, while it's probably up to each moderator on whether they personally feel like actually doing anything, it technically CAN be said to be against the ToS with little argument, so it's really safer just to avoid it all together.



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VintageGin
07/10/11 2:39:00 AM
#58:


Menji76 posted...
holy crap this topic

I remember a bunch of these stories and most of you are leaving out vital details that really got you modded

and the other half are stuff that is easily overturned


I've yet to have an unjust moderation so you guys must be lying


I can't tell if this post is sarcastic or not. The first part seems sincere, but that last sentence is...man, I hope you're not serious.

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YetAnothrShadow
07/10/11 2:45:00 AM
#59:


Might aswell share my favorite mod story.

Brawl boards, Right in the midst of it's hellish state. Posting on my main account.

I made a topic, which proceeded to get the copied fad where people copy the topic and change a word or letter in it. This was a daily thing at the time. Well I got my topic modded along with everyone elses. And since I had some previous moderations ( Which in all honesty I deserved), I got a suspension.

I contested saying I didn't break any rules. And got an obviously copy pasted message essentially saying Don't participate in fads.

Contested again and got a " Oh lol everyone uses that excuse "

Contested last time saying that they should friggin look at the posting times and got a simple message back saying.

" k "

No overturns.

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Menji76
07/10/11 2:45:00 AM
#60:


The last part was for fun but I'm totally serious.

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YetAnothrShadow
07/10/11 2:52:00 AM
#61:


Actually I think I left out a vital piece of info.

When I contested the last time. I think I said something to the effect of.

" Oh come on, can you guys do your jobs right?

Next time try looking at the posting times. "

I think that " next time " part is why the admin decided to just shrug it off.

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Menji76
07/10/11 3:05:00 AM
#62:


so you were a dick and expected something to happen?

Have you dealt with anyone before?

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Zachnorn
07/10/11 3:08:00 AM
#63:


Oh, and one time, I made an overrated topic (IIRC), with no other overrated topics on the board and without me making an overrated topic for a long time. I got a 3KL for "disruptive." I contested it saying that I could not find a single thing about it that might fall under the disruptive posting rule. The mod answered "fad." After searching through topics containing the word "overrated" (there were none) and whatever it was that I called overrated, I found that there was nothing that could have been a fad. I contested again, telling the lead mod that I still don't understand my moderation, as I saw nothing that indicated that there was a fad, and beyond that, I didn't even follow a fad intentionally. I got a response of "It doesn't matter because it is still a fad." I took it up to SBAllen and I basically got a "Fad. Fair, next" response from him. To this day, I still don't understand that moderation.

Another time, I made a topic calling something overrated, again with no other overrated topics on the board. People decided to make a fad out of calling things overrated. I got modded for disruptive posting, but I think that was an NKL. I didn't bother to contest it because I just didn't care.

And damn it Menji, I'm going to whine about my moderations all I want, damn it!

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Vlado
07/10/11 3:09:00 AM
#64:


YetAnothrShadow posted...
Actually I think I left out a vital piece of info.

When I contested the last time. I think I said something to the effect of.

" Oh come on, can you guys do your jobs right?

Next time try looking at the posting times. "

I think that " next time " part is why the admin decided to just shrug it off.


Admin will never overturn anything, so don't bother going there. He has much bigger things to do. Lead mod is your last hope, sometimes they're reasonable, depends on which one your case lands on.

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YetAnothrShadow
07/10/11 3:09:00 AM
#65:


Two polite enough messages obviously weren't enough.

IIRC and I give NGirl permission to correct me on this. The first two messages were just straight forward " hey I made this topic first ".

And both times they were contested without even bothering to look. So I lost my temper on the last one.

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Menji76
07/10/11 3:12:00 AM
#66:


YetAnothrShadow posted...
Two polite enough messages obviously weren't enough.

IIRC and I give NGirl permission to correct me on this. The first two messages were just straight forward " hey I made this topic first ".

And both times they were contested without even bothering to look. So I lost my temper on the last one.


But that's not what you just wrote at all.

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YetAnothrShadow
07/10/11 3:14:00 AM
#67:


Menji76 posted...
YetAnothrShadow posted...
Two polite enough messages obviously weren't enough.

IIRC and I give NGirl permission to correct me on this. The first two messages were just straight forward " hey I made this topic first ".

And both times they were contested without even bothering to look. So I lost my temper on the last one.

But that's not what you just wrote at all.


I contested saying I didn't break any rules. And got an obviously copy pasted message essentially saying Don't participate in fads.

Contested again and got a " Oh lol everyone uses that excuse "


I didn't specify at all what I wrote as my first two messages. Only my last one.

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Menji76
07/10/11 3:18:00 AM
#68:


Well now you know better.

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YetAnothrShadow
07/10/11 3:19:00 AM
#69:


To never bother contesting again?
Yeah.

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Vlado
07/10/11 3:19:00 AM
#70:


The most certain way not to get moderated: Don't post.

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ImTheMacheteGuy
07/10/11 8:26:00 AM
#71:


StealThisSheen posted...
...Really? I mean, the mod system does suck, here, but there have been much more unfair moderations. Posting something against the ToS and then having a mod automatically delete it isn't really "overzealous." It's robotic, if anything, like somebody said.

not just somebody... me :D

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ImTheMacheteGuy
07/10/11 8:28:00 AM
#72:


nintendogirl1 posted...
From: Vlado | #021
Except you delete a bunch of stuff that doesn't break the ToU.

That's just not true. Rather, the majority of the posters on this site don't actually know what the ToU says and believe theat everything they say is divine and therefore can't be deleted, because it's true/he deserved it/it's not illegal where I live/some other stupid reason.


XD @ August 22nd, 2005

like some NEWCOMER like YOU knows what's up :P

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Andel
07/11/11 9:55:00 PM
#73:


well...got warned. silly.

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AlecTrevelyan006
07/11/11 10:28:00 PM
#74:


I've gotten some silly moderations in my time. Stuff that was clearly not outside the rules, and stuff that can be interpreted as "against the rules" but you would have to be a fool to think that it should be modded. Apparently it is offensive to make a joke implying that the Irish drink a lot, because it is a stereotype, even if it is also an objective fact. I was also told if I made a joke about the Swiss keeping their cars in neutral, it is a 3KL for offensive due to the use of stereotypes.

That said, I have also had many moderations overturned. I'm not sure that's a "well done" for the system, as they got modded foolishly in the first place, but it all worked out.

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masterplum
07/11/11 10:34:00 PM
#75:


Ngirl wins this topic


I love how everyone is like WTF MAN I WAS UNFAIRLY MODDED

and leaves out half the details of the story.

I haven't been modded in over a year of posting time. Its not too difficult to not say stupid things,

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MarvelousGerbil
07/11/11 10:44:00 PM
#76:


Not to be the guy who pointlessly fights with mods, but I really feel like ngirl's "put part of the post in the sig" thing is a form of minor trolling, which is probably worse than what a lot of minor spoilers get modded for. Not trying to pick a fight, just stating my opinion.

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LeonhartFour
07/11/11 10:46:00 PM
#77:


Oh, I do believe people complain about moderations more than is necessary.

But to say there haven't been situations where the mods haven't been in the wrong is pretty silly.

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RandomLoSeR1234
07/11/11 11:10:00 PM
#78:


Has anyone ever gotten a moderation overturned?

And on topic, I've gotten Warned status not too long ago for asking what the ending credits scene was for Super 8. The reason? Illegal activities.

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LeonhartFour
07/11/11 11:11:00 PM
#79:


I got modded for spoilers without warning for posting "Mallow isn't really a tadpole," and I got it overturned.

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GuessMyUserName
07/11/11 11:12:00 PM
#80:


From: nintendogirl1 | Posted: 7/9/2011 6:08:29 PM | #024
From: Vlado | #021
Except you delete a bunch of stuff that doesn't break the ToU.

That's just not true.




XMFDD

You are seriously fooling yourself big time if you believe that nobody gets modded unfairly.

Or enlighten me on how posting a screenshot of a fully clothed 3D Character Model is offensively moddable or sexually explict.

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OmarsComin
07/11/11 11:15:00 PM
#81:


I've had two overturns in my life IIRC

one for spoilers without warning when I marked spoilers in the topic title, the other for talking about bsnes.
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Uglyface2
07/11/11 11:15:00 PM
#82:


I have had one instance of karma loss. Some model had died and had her remains tossed into a dumpster and burned, and lots of people were making snotty comments. I said one thing, and apparently some mod was getting frustrated and started going from mere deletions to full-on suspensions. Guess which side of the frustration line I was on?

I wasn't given the opportunity to appeal my suspension. I lost the karma, couldn't post for a week, and wanted nothing more than swift, brutal revenge on whichever mod decided to white knight the model.
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OmarsComin
07/12/11 12:26:00 AM
#83:


that dumpster girl was one of the greatest moments in B8 history and you should feel glad to have been a part of it
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DeathChicken
07/12/11 12:31:00 AM
#84:


I guess that mod was just feeling hot under the collar

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GuessMyUserName
07/12/11 12:34:00 AM
#85:


I guess you could say that moderation was burned into your memory

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Biolizard28
07/13/11 8:27:00 AM
#87:


I'd detail my favorite mod story, but you all should already know it.

Most of all you, ngirl. :)

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VincentLauw
07/13/11 8:28:00 AM
#88:


From: LeonhartFour | #077
Oh, I do believe people complain about moderations more than is necessary.

But to say there haven't been situations where the mods haven't been in the wrong is pretty silly.


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VincentLauw
07/13/11 8:29:00 AM
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and it's sad how everyone is afraid to bring up the ngirl story of a month ago now, you know which one. This post will likely get me suspended again or something but it's a fine example of how mods are sometimes corrupt as hell. (yes I used corrupt on an internet message board lmao so mad)

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Biolizard28
07/13/11 8:35:00 AM
#91:


Saying anything will get you modded, so it's not worth bringing up again.

Not like we can do anything about it. Just accept that we were fortunate enough to see the truth.

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Chrono1219
07/13/11 8:38:00 AM
#92:


From: VincentLauw | #410
and it's sad how everyone is afraid to bring up the ngirl story of a month ago now, you know which one. This post will likely get me suspended again or something but it's a fine example of how mods are sometimes corrupt as hell. (yes I used corrupt on an internet message board lmao so mad)


Pfft Ngirl can mod me as much as she wants in exchange for boobs

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UItimaterializer
07/13/11 9:59:00 AM
#93:


None of you guys have gotten a worse moderation than this one: http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Nintendo_Fanboyism

aka, one of the suspensions that was cited to finally demod Cheradenine once he (not "she", lol SineNomine) went and posted the nudes of female LUEsers on LL. When RaptorLC says a suspension is bad and Allen apologizes to you for it, you know something was royally f***ed up.

Oh and my friendship with ngirl is well-known, but let's be honest here. If a male mod were caught revealing mod-only info in b8c, they'd have been demodded for it. Just ask CNash.

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Biolizard28
07/13/11 10:11:00 AM
#94:


Come now, Ulti, we're not naive. Of course male mods treat any woman that give them the time of day like a goddess.

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Andel
07/14/11 7:17:00 AM
#97:


yeah...dont you love it how mods automatically (at least in my experience) reveal mod history? too bad you cant mark on 'ask the mods' because raptor lc revealed my history without my permission...

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Cybat
07/14/11 8:29:00 AM
#99:


Vlado posted...
The most certain way not to get moderated: Don't post.

seriously? no one is gonna jump on this one?

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HookedOnSonics
07/14/11 9:26:00 AM
#100:


Hahaha, I got 3KL'd once for getting really ****ing angry in a mafia game and (with GameFAQs Uncensored) I said ****ing with 2 U's or something like that. I was deleted in like under a minute. That was pretty funny.

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