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JaKyL25
08/04/11 6:45:00 AM
#351:


Well yeah, I would completely buy that Jericho would WANT to work with Punk at Wrestlemania next year, and pitch the idea to WWE. I mean, who wouldn't?

That doesn't mean WWE would go for it. Yeah it's a match I'd love to see, but I can't really envision the storyline getting there. Jericho really has nothing to do whatsoever with the sort of thing Punk is against.

Basically I can't even really begin to fantasy book a logical scenario that ends with Punk vs. Jericho at Wrestlemania. Jericho vs. Christian, Jericho vs. Orton, Jericho vs. Cena, Jericho vs. Triple H, Jericho vs. Rey, Jericho vs. Miz, even Jericho vs. Undertaker, I can see those paths. Don't see it with Punker.

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JaKyL25
08/04/11 6:47:00 AM
#352:


XIII_rocks posted...
Jericho returns at the Rumble, wins faces punk for the WWE title at WM.

So you'd have taker vs. Whoever, orton/bryan, Cena/rock and Punk/Jericho

THE HYPERCARD


Augh don't remind me that Orton will still probably be right in the thick of the WHC picture 8 months from now.

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SmartMuffin
08/04/11 6:53:00 AM
#353:


Jericho really has nothing to do whatsoever with the sort of thing Punk is against.

Besides Cena, who else does? HHH? Orton?

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JaKyL25
08/04/11 6:58:00 AM
#354:


Miz comes across like a corporate tool, I could see that feud working if Punk turned quasi-face for good.

But overall you're right, Punk has, in a sense, pigeonholed himself now. Once he's raged against all the major cogs of the machine, where does he go next?

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SmartMuffin
08/04/11 6:59:00 AM
#355:


Back to the midcard after HHH has sufficiently buried him?

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JaKyL25
08/04/11 7:00:00 AM
#356:


They'd have to change his t-shirt to "8th Best In the World" or something. <_<

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JaKyL25
08/04/11 7:02:00 AM
#357:


And oh yeah, I forgot about The Rock.

The timing doesn't work AT ALL but if they somehow found a way to make it happen, Punk vs. Rock would be pretty great.

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SmartMuffin
08/04/11 7:02:00 AM
#358:


Arrive. Get Pedigreed. Leave.

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JaKyL25
08/04/11 7:05:00 AM
#359:


Based on a lot of stuff Punk has said, I think his ideal scenario for Wrestlemania is Punk vs. Austin, if Austin can do one last match.

Could be a good passing of the torch moment.

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voltch
08/04/11 7:59:00 AM
#360:


I just want the rumble winner to win.

I mean, right now winning the belt at thr EC is just plain better!

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ShatteredElysium
08/04/11 9:40:00 AM
#361:


Dolph could drop the belt and then move on to Punk since he was shooting his mouth off about Cena/Punk prior to their match.

I mean as an interim thing more than WM material. Could have it where Ziggler constantly calls him out then backs out of it or keeps ambushing him/screwing him.

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voltch
08/04/11 9:55:00 AM
#362:




huh

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XIII_rocks
08/04/11 11:58:00 AM
#363:


lol Santino cameo

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08/04/11 12:09:00 PM
#364:


woo woo woo chris masters

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08/04/11 12:17:00 PM
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Chronic1000
08/04/11 12:51:00 PM
#366:


For those interested in WCW Road Wild: Tomorrow at noon CDT will be the start time for the show!

Here is the card for that event (no spoilers)

Main Event:
Lex Luger(c) vs. Hollywood Hogan for the WCW World Heavyweight Championship


Undercard

The Steiner Brothers (with Ted DiBiase) vs. The Outsiders(c) for the WCW World Tag Team Champions

The Giant vs.Randy Savage

Diamond Dallas Page (with Kimberly Page) vs. Curt Hennig

Ric Flair vs. Syxx

Chris Jericho vs. Alex Wright(c) for the WCW Cruiserweight Championship

Four Horsemen (Steve McMichael and Chris Benoit) vs. Jeff Jarrett and Dean Malenko in an Elimination match

Rey Misterio, Jr. vs. Konnan in a Mexican Death match

Harlem Heat (Booker T and Stevie Ray) vs. Vicious and Delicious (Buff Bagwell and Scott Norton)

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08/04/11 2:04:00 PM
#367:


From: Viktor Vaughn | #365
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great pic, here's a better link: external image


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bryans7
08/04/11 2:49:00 PM
#368:




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greatone10
08/04/11 3:01:00 PM
#369:


http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/wwe-written-in-my-face-sheamus/id441925039

I don't know what to say...

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Haguile
08/04/11 3:10:00 PM
#370:


From: greatone10 | Posted: 8/4/2011 6:01:42 PM | #369
http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/wwe-written-in-my-face-sheamus/id441925039

I don't know what to say...


It was released over a month ago. Tons of WWE themes never get replaced despite other versions of it, like Kozlov's theme.

So don't worry for now. Lobster Head will live on.

More importantly:

http://shiningwizado.bandcamp.com/track/i-hate-you-heath-slater

I love that song. And so does Wade Barrett according to his twitter.
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JaKyL25
08/04/11 3:12:00 PM
#371:


LOL did Masters call Superstars the #1 "IWC" wrestling show?

I guess those within the industry are more aware of what goes on with fans than we might imagine sometimes.

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JaKyL25
08/04/11 3:20:00 PM
#372:


2nd quarter WWE PPV buys are all in now.

Wrestlemania XXVII did 1,059,000 buys, significantly up from Wrestlemania XXVI (885,000).

Extreme Rules 2011 did 209,000 buys, which was up from 2010 (182,000).

Over the Limit 2011 did 140,000 buys, way down from 2010 (197,000).

Capitol Punishment 2011 did 170,000 buys, up from Fatal Four Way in 2010 (143,000).

I wonder why Over the Limit was down so much while the rest were up? Orton vs. Christian was still fresh...I guess people were played out on Cena vs. Miz?

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PrivateBiscuit1
08/04/11 3:34:00 PM
#373:


JaKyL25 posted...
2nd quarter WWE PPV buys are all in now.

Wrestlemania XXVII did 1,059,000 buys, significantly up from Wrestlemania XXVI (885,000).

Extreme Rules 2011 did 209,000 buys, which was up from 2010 (182,000).

Over the Limit 2011 did 140,000 buys, way down from 2010 (197,000).

Capitol Punishment 2011 did 170,000 buys, up from Fatal Four Way in 2010 (143,000).

I wonder why Over the Limit was down so much while the rest were up? Orton vs. Christian was still fresh...I guess people were played out on Cena vs. Miz?


Wasn't Over The Limit the one with the I Quit match? Because Cena I Quit matches are atrocious and I'm sure everyone was just as not psyched as we were.

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JaKyL25
08/04/11 3:36:00 PM
#374:


Over the Limit 2010 title matches:
Cena (c) vs. Batista (I Quit)
Swagger (c) vs. The Big Show

Over the Limit 2011 title matches:
Cena (c) vs. The Miz (I Quit)
Orton (c) vs. Christian

Cena being in an I Quit match is a static variable, it's not the cause here!

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voltch
08/04/11 3:37:00 PM
#375:


Over the limit also has the stupidest premise.

ER you're kinda pumped cos it has the promise of violence and CP had a rather unique washington gimmick which they pushed pretty hard.

whats the point of OTL?

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voltch
08/04/11 3:38:00 PM
#376:


Swagger bigger draw than Orton confirmed.

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JaKyL25
08/04/11 3:39:00 PM
#377:


CP had a rather unique washington gimmick which they pushed pretty hard.

This is quite a stretch IMO.

"Wow I gotta buy that PPV, it has a Washington DC theme! Fake Obama = Buyrates!"

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JaKyL25
08/04/11 3:42:00 PM
#378:


Comparing the title matches at the other minor PPVs:

Extreme Rules 2010 (182,000 buys)
Cena (c) vs. Batista (Last Man Standing)
Swagger (c) vs. Orton (No Holds Barred)

Extreme Rules 2011 (209,000 buys)
Miz (c) vs. Cena vs. Morrison (Steel Cage)
Del Rio vs. Christian (Ladder)
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Fatal Four Way 2010 (143,000 buys)
Cena (c) vs. Sheamus vs. Edge vs. Orton
Swagger (c) vs. Mysterio vs. Big Show vs. Punk

Capitol Punishment 2011 (170,000 buys)
Cena (c) vs. R-Truth
Orton (c) vs. Christian

Seriously I don't see a whole lot of rhyme or reason for these variances.

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voltch
08/04/11 3:45:00 PM
#379:


Well they kept promoting it hard with all the promise of all the washington sports teams and celebs showing up, while F4W seemed really underpromoted.

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08/04/11 3:46:00 PM
#380:


Over the Limit is one of those pay per view which I assume has been canceled by now, like Breaking Rights or Bragging Point

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08/04/11 3:47:00 PM
#381:


Also, Capital Punishment sort of reminds me of the Great American Bash and I assume PPVs that have been around longer tend to do better

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JaKyL25
08/04/11 3:49:00 PM
#382:


One thing I'm not doing in those breakdowns is researching the surrounding UFC PPVs.

Maybe there's this base 140,000 people that will just buy any garbage they toss out there and charge $45 for, but then there's another 50,000 or so on top of that who buy enticing UFC PPVs as well, and if UFC has already taken those for the month, those WWE buys go down.

That's how they explained the huge drop for WM 26 when both 25 and 27 did a lot better--26 happened to be on the same weekend as a hot UFC PPV, and the others were not.

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Viktor Vaughn
08/04/11 3:52:00 PM
#383:


christian is a draw

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voltch
08/04/11 3:54:00 PM
#384:


Who was on the UFC card that WM 26 had to face?

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JaKyL25
08/04/11 3:55:00 PM
#385:


Wow, the UFC show on the same weekend as Wrestlemania XXVI (GSP defending against Dan Hardy, Mir vs. Carwin for the Interim HW Title) did 850,000 buys. WM barely beat it that weekend, in what I assume must have been a very profitable couple days for PPV providers as middlemen.

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Wanglicious
08/04/11 3:56:00 PM
#386:


Seriously I don't see a whole lot of rhyme or reason for these variances.

Extreme Rules 2011 with those main events looks a ton better. don't also forget that it had Christian in what seemed like his one true moment to get the belt as Edge had just left. but frankly that steel cage triple threat is sexy while a Cena LMS is 'eh.' Fatal Fourway i got nothin' outside a lot of people don't like 4-way matches. which is probably reason enough to kill it.

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voltch
08/04/11 3:57:00 PM
#387:


I don't think Dan Hardy is much of a draw >_<

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JaKyL25
08/04/11 3:59:00 PM
#388:


No he's not, but all you gotta say is "GSP defends against...." and then you can start counting your millions in profit.

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Viktor Vaughn
08/04/11 4:05:00 PM
#389:


Viktor Vaughn posted...
christian is a draw

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JaKyL25
08/04/11 4:10:00 PM
#390:


Stuff I found interesting from the WWE Quarterly Conference Call report:


* McMahon continued on, saying that TV ratings are slightly up across the board, and that attendance, as compared to this time last year is down 3%. Last year there was a drop of 19%, so the feeling is that they have stopped the bleeding there.

* McMahon next discussed PPV buys, noting that outside of WrestleMania that they were flat. He did note that the early numbers have Money in the Bank up 20% from last year.

* McMahon confirmed that the WWE studios film That's What I Am won awards, but that it did not matter, due to the film losing $3.3 million. He said the film was great, but that it did not appeal to the base WWE audience. He also noted that they will try to lower their production budgets.

* McMahon closed by talking about the WWE Network, saying that it would be rolling out soon. He also stated that the live USA show wouldn't necessarily have anything to do with the WWE network, and also noted that he felt the network would be a success.


* They then moved onto the question and answer session. The first question was about the Rock coming back and the use of older stars. McMahon says that it is an option, and that they would consider it. They have multiple PPV plans for the Rock.

* They were asked about the UFC potentially starting their own network and how it would affect them. Vince said it would not hurt them, and said that the UFC "fell on their butt" recently when negotiating with NBC. Vince feels that they have a ton of content to offer on the new network, including running Superstars and NXT on the network.

* When pressed on a launch date for the network, Barrios said between 12 and 18 months.


If they ever get that network launched, I may as well kiss my life goodbye.

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Wanglicious
08/04/11 4:16:00 PM
#391:


punk = ratings aw yeah.
also the news could not have come in a better day. WWE's stock was up for most of the day and closed between 1 and 2%.


meanwhile everything else died.

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ScareChan
08/04/11 4:17:00 PM
#392:


Whoever was saying that they couldn't work Jericho Punk I beg to differ. As long as they carry Punk along with his best in the world thing then Jericho has every right to feud with him as that was his deal before he left. His thing was he was the best in the world at what he does and with him gone Punk has taken the moniker. It's a bit bare bones but its something to start from. They can go from there

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voltch
08/04/11 4:19:00 PM
#393:


How much more can they lower the production budgets by geez.

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JaKyL25
08/04/11 4:19:00 PM
#394:


On the other hand though, I'm a bit apprehensive about their obsession with getting their own cable network.

It feels like someone in 1990 or so wanting to start up their own print newspaper. TV in the sense that we know it is not a medium that is going to be viable beyond the next couple generations.

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JaKyL25
08/04/11 4:22:00 PM
#395:


voltch posted...
How much more can they lower the production budgets by geez.

John Cena stars in: The Blair Miz Project.

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Wanglicious
08/04/11 4:23:00 PM
#396:


yeah, punk/jericho works with best in the world as a starting point and i'm pretty sure Jericho's pitching the idea based off of that. jericho also likes to think of himself as a rock star. no idea what his history with drugs and alcohol is though, but i don't think they need to go that route again ('straight edge lol' is a horrible message and is dull as hell). Jericho returning as a tweener works too, and hey maybe he can have his first singles win over Cena! cause dammit he needs it.

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voltch
08/04/11 4:26:00 PM
#397:


Feud is punk going lol Y2J, best in the world can't even beat Cena, then Y2J beats Cena for #1 contendership!

Either way, Rumble winner right now is sooo hard to guess.

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JaKyL25
08/04/11 4:28:00 PM
#398:


Jericho I don't think is known to use drugs, but he is known to have a few at the bar!



(This isn't a great example since Punk is there, but Jericho comes across as a lot more tipsy <_<)

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voltch
08/04/11 4:30:00 PM
#399:


Y2J, never takes prescriptions either since he's never injured!

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08/04/11 4:44:00 PM
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