Board 8 > I think one of my co-workers has A.D.D.

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From: GANON1025 | #200
Although this does explain why you liked Fire Walk With Me.

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foolm0ron posted...
Potassium prevents cramps?

Eeyup!

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^awful shooting star

The more you know.

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let me try one
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yeah that didn't work

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i dunno, i think you could do better.

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timjab just completely self destructing as a person itt

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Yeah, I guess calling out hypocrisy is "self destructing as a person". Never change, dudes. Always judge posts by who posted, rather than the content.

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I've always thought timjab was a cool dude before this topic, this terribleness really seems out of character but there it is


unfortunately i cannot say the same of you

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Why? What exactly is so terrible in what either of us posted?

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Ulti, I guess I did play devil's advocate a bit in the beginning of the topic, as I made it clear that screwing around is acceptable only if you actually get your work done at the end of the day, which doesn't seem to be the case for this girl.

However, my main problem is actually talking to your boss behind someone's back. That's really dishonest.

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More dishonest than collecting a paycheck and health benefits and not doing any job for them? Vlado you must have missed the post where I said that I did speak to her about her lack of work. One day, when I was swamped and she was doing nothing I even asked her if she could handle a menial task for me and she got all pissy and said she had some other work to do (which she then proceeded to not do either).

My boss employs his daughter to get her health benefits from the company. The entire office is left to put up with her crap. I am the only employee in the office with large enough balls to talk to the boss about it. I'm also the only man in the office that isn't related to him. (his son works there too and has also had words with his sister regarding how obnoxious she is. His son actually works and probably deserves a raise.)


oh and Vlado are you scared of Ulti or something? He called you out and you flipped real fast.

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However, my main problem is actually talking to your boss behind someone's back. That's really dishonest.

I'm not sure you know what "dishonest" means. He's not like... slandering her. It's hypothetically true statements he's making. That would be honest.



btw, SBell

you should hire Jamie Foxx to help you kill your boss

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Ulti didn't "call me out". He simply expressed disagreement with my views in a civil manner.

Also, two wrongs don't make a right.

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I am going to chirp in with the other guys and say 'why did I read this'

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From: Vlado | #214
Ulti didn't "call me out". He simply expressed disagreement with my views in a civil manner.

Also, two wrongs don't make a right.

Perhaps you could learn a thing or two from him.

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No, what with his views being wrong. Reporting a peer to the boss is never acceptable.

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what if the peer rapes you

what then

you going to let a rapist go free

vlado supports rapists is all I am getting from this

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...never acceptable.

O_o


You've clearly never actually worked in an office setting before.

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gahhhhhh, 1 second MoogleKupo >_<

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MoogleKupo141 posted...
what if the peer rapes you

what then

you going to let a rapist go free

vlado supports rapists is all I am getting from this

*facepalm*

Care to read through the topic again?

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*reads through again*

...Yeah you really are pro-rape.

Wow, Vlado, wow

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Vlado posted...
However, my main problem is actually talking to your boss behind someone's back. That's really dishonest.

Really? In lieu of an HR representative(which most small businesses wouldn't have), the boss is the one to go to when you have a problem with another employee. I'm not going to waste my time and effort going to another employee and telling him he sucks; that's not my job, and I don't want any of my co-workers doing the same to me.

It's the manager's job to deal with that stuff, but me letting him know what's going on helps him out immensely. Real dishonesty would be seeing a lack of workplace ethics and not telling anyone about it. That's comparable to being an accomplice.

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If someone does no work, the manager will know, trust me. Guess how? By the lack of results, of course.

It's absolutely none of your business to judge how good of a worker someone else is, much less talk to his/her boss about it. Different people have different working habits, and the only thing that matters is whether their work is done at the end of the day or not.

Yes, maybe in this particular case the girl really does no work, but that doesn't make SBell any less wrong about talking to the boss about it (the fact that she's his daughter doesn't make SBell's action very beneficial for his career, either, but that's another question).

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Vlado still exhibiting proof that he has no idea what its like to work with people.

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Okay Vlado I guess there is no changing your mind here. Luckily we don't work together so this will never be an issue.

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sbell on gamefaqs at work again what a surprise

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Care to read through the topic again?

lord no

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SBell0105 posted...
Vlado still exhibiting proof that he has no idea what its like to work with people.

Keep telling yourself that.

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TimJab I see a good nights rest was not enough to help you get over me.

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SBell0105 posted...
TimJab I see a good nights rest was not enough to help you get over me.

sorry i don't easily forgive people that tell people that are contemplating suicide that they deserve it

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In lieu of an HR representative(which most small businesses wouldn't have), the boss is the one to go to when you have a problem with another employee. I'm not going to waste my time and effort going to another employee and telling him he sucks; that's not my job, and I don't want any of my co-workers doing the same to me.

If one of my co-workers had an issue with me, I would much rather have him talk to me personally first, instead of having him badmouth me to my boss behind my back and possibly get me in trouble without even giving me a chance to fix the issue myself.

Now, if someone is refusing to pull their weight around the office to a big enough extent that it's hurting office productivity, and you talk to him about it and he refuses to change, I think going to the boss is fair.


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From: lardpig | #232
sorry i don't easily forgive people that tell people that are contemplating suicide that they deserve it

And just like that, any point you might have been trying to make in this topic has gone right out the window.
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Vlado posted...
MoogleKupo141 posted...
what if the peer rapes you

what then

you going to let a rapist go free

vlado supports rapists is all I am getting from this

*facepalm*

Care to read through the topic again?

Scenario:

A peer rapes you, but here's the rub: he gets all of his office work done beforehand, therefore not costing the company a dime!

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Mr. Thompson, I need you to take a letter...


...and remove your pants.

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Let's post silly stuff in the topic after getting destroyed. Never change, guys. :)

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Lol, nothing in this topic got destroyed except your silly opinions.

Let's post a "clever" aside to cover up the fact that I was wrong.
Never change, Vlado :)

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Hm, let's see. Vincent, Drake, Tim supporting me in general, and a bunch of people afraid to side with the monster Vlado. Yeah, my "silly" opinions sure got "destroyed".

Common sense is not so common when you encounter a message board user you don't like, apparently.

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I don't agree with you Vlado based on principle and you know that I have no dislike of you.

Would you like to make that statement about me.

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Well, that's sad. Why wouldn't you agree? I'm interested to hear a defence of favouring "working hard" over results that is at least superficially sound.

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Hm, let's see. Vincent, Drake, Tim supporting me in general, and a bunch of people afraid to side with the monster Vlado. Yeah, my "silly" opinions sure got "destroyed".

Common sense is not so common when you encounter a message board user you don't like, apparently.

funny that you say that since Tim seems to be agreeing with you pretty much because he doesn't like SBell

like funny ha ha

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Well the results from working hard (or working smart as it applies) tend to be better than not. So if you produce a certain level of results it is reasonable to expect that those can be improved if you increase your productivity. If you have to do a ton of different things while getting results to sustain the results then you probably do in fact have A.D.D. Nothing really wrong with that, just kind of stating the obvious though. If you don't have to be doing those things, then you are decreasing your potential results.

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Vlado posted...
Hm, let's see. Vincent, Drake, Tim supporting me in general, and a bunch of people afraid to side with the monster Vlado. Yeah, my "silly" opinions sure got "destroyed".

Drake actually took SBell's side (if he's taking any at all) if you read closely enough, but of course you were probably so excited about having "an ally" that you only read the first half of his message. I'll sum the second half up for you: he agrees with Bell's actions.

And finally, Tim is only taking your side because he has another, completely different issue with SBell as was literally just revealed. It's alright, you probably missed that comment because your stubborn pride got in the way of your reading comprehension (again).

Common sense is not so common when you encounter a message board user you don't like, apparently.

Now take what I just said and apply it to Tim, who you're only willing to overlook because he's on your side. How now, brown cow?

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Vlado's original point wasn't bad, he just expressed himself badly. He was basically saying that if someone does their work, then they are allowed to goof off a bit since hey they are still doing their work. Problem was that SBell said she didn't do her work.

Then both proceeded to cartoonize each other because hey this is board 8 and we like cartoons.

I agree with Vlado's original point that if you are getting your work done, then going on facebook or something at work isn't the worst thing you could do. But I disagree that telling the boss about a problem with the company being a bad thing. Yeah, maybe talking directly to the girl could have been better, but just telling the boss about it seems pretty reasonable to me.

Achromatic posted...
Well the results from working hard (or working smart as it applies) tend to be better than not. So if you produce a certain level of results it is reasonable to expect that those can be improved if you increase your productivity. If you have to do a ton of different things while getting results to sustain the results then you probably do in fact have A.D.D. Nothing really wrong with that, just kind of stating the obvious though. If you don't have to be doing those things, then you are decreasing your potential results.

I don't know, dude, sometimes you need to catch a breath before you can continue working. If you're not allowed to do that, I believe you'll do worse. Refusing the employee that right is a recipe for failure, if you ask me, as opposed to getting even better results from him/her. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.



lol, GS, Drake directly called out Butz, who supported SBell's action. Care to apply simple logic, please?

And Tim called out SBell on whining in this thread for hours, while at work, that actually someone else wasn't being productive. After taking the time to journal their activities, no less. Yeah, sure sounds like he doesn't agree with SBell simply out of spite.

The latter IS 100% correct about you and me, however.

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See this topic makes me sad because I like most of the people in it. Everyone is so mad and stuff over simple disagreements. Like, there's a lot of things to get mad and vicious over but stuff like this isn't it. Also Timjab I think you could be writing a post saying how amazing I am and that sig with Madison Rayne (that's her right) would be the best part of your post tbqh, but not quite how I meant it here yeah.

Anyway Vlado the thing is we know much less about this situation than Sbell. I like Sbell, I know him to be a fairly fair person if a bit biting, so from my perspective I go "okay he probably has a point" and if you have another view of Sbell you are likely to give him less of a benefit. I think this is less about the situation, which we are pretty uninformed on, and more of us projecting our images of Sbell onto the argument.

Let's all hug.

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I'll have to go with Vlado on this one.

Um. If I was working at $16/hours or something and this girl was doing this and getting paid the same, I would definitely speak up. I don't know what world you live in, Vlado, but if you actually care about your job, you will speak up about issues within it.

Definitely not reading the whole topic but something about this attitude pisses me off.

Vlado posted...
lol, GS, Drake directly called out Butz, who supported SBell's action. Care to apply simple logic, please?

Care to yourself?

Gatarix posted...
Now, if someone is refusing to pull their weight around the office to a big enough extent that it's hurting office productivity, and you talk to him about it and he refuses to change, I think going to the boss is fair.

Wait... that sounds awfully familiar to exactly what Bell did, probably because it is. And if Drake agrees with this then that means... he's completely on your side! Yep! This logic is flawless!

And Tim called out SBell on whining in this thread for hours, while at work, that actually someone else wasn't being productive. After taking the time to journal their activities, no less. Yeah, sure sounds like he doesn't agree with SBell simply out of spite.

You keep telling yourself that, especially since the dude pretty much admitted to it on the same page lol.

The latter IS 100% correct about you and me, however.

I'll be honest: my first impression of you was not a great one (and believe-it-or-not, this topic isn't helping! Crazy, right?), but I assure you I would not be "afraid" to side with a "monster" aka a user I wasn't fond of if he or she was correct.

Thing is Vlado, in this topic, you were never correct. The more you expanded on your reasoning, the worse your initial argument became. You continued to argue that Bell took the worst possible solution to this problem. While I do not believe it was the best, the actual worst solution is the one you're advocating the most: to do absolutely nothing about it at all. Tell me Vlado, if Bell's action had a slim chance of achieving a desirable change, but yours would achieve nothing, how could Bell's decision be worse than yours?

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