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Peace___Frog
08/22/11 10:38:00 PM
#51:



Using spacebar to recenter the screen on yourself should be apart of the tutorial



Agreed. When I taught my friend's gf how to play, I told her to get into a habit of using your left thumb to hit spacebar.

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KommunistKoala
08/22/11 10:54:00 PM
#52:


From: Silver_Ermine | #048
Why are you such a meanie now I THOUGHT WE WERE THE BROS



We'll always be Team Animal and Team Koala Owns Ermine in Challenge Cup~

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Silver_Ermine
08/22/11 11:03:00 PM
#53:


KommunistKoala posted...
From: Silver_Ermine | #048
Why are you such a meanie now I THOUGHT WE WERE THE BROS

We'll always be Team Animal and Team Koala Owns Ermine in Challenge Cup~


NO I ALWAYS WIN FFFFFFFFF

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Peace___Frog
08/22/11 11:15:00 PM
#54:


Ermine's LoL avatar is too cute to beat!

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TheConductorSix
08/23/11 12:25:00 AM
#55:


Skarner blows. Bad ratios and the range on ult sucks. It's worse than Singed's Fling and has ten times the timer and Skarner has no God Ult that allows him to be in the middle of things. Gragas ratios too strong. KOALA I MISS YOU AND LOVE YOU. Play this game. You'll love it. The best way to learn is to dive in and play different champs and learn what you like. When you find a champion you like play them Alot. Get good with them. Know their ins and outs. Save the IP you get for runes at level 20.

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08/23/11 10:47:00 AM
#56:


New skins on LoL Facebook, I can't post links on my phone, sorry. Reverse Annie and Tron Sivir are great, the rest, eh.

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Justin_Crossing
08/23/11 11:19:00 AM
#57:


http://lol-game.ru/forum/index.php?/topic/45657-vzgljad-ukradkoi-predreliz-skinov-v100124/

there is a link for ya

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Biolizard28
08/23/11 11:22:00 AM
#58:


Reverse Annie has a really weird in-game model, though.

http://lol-game.ru/forum/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=11903

"Nope."

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08/23/11 11:31:00 AM
#59:


Biolizard28 posted...
Reverse Annie has a really weird in-game model, though.

http://lol-game.ru/forum/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=11903

"Nope."


I didn't realize Annie was part-giraffe.

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08/23/11 12:54:00 PM
#60:


Okay guys, I have some IP to blow. I need an AP caster, and I've narrowed it down to these three.

Orianna
Lux
Nidalee

I plan to buy them all eventually, but for now, which one do I go with?

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Silver_Ermine
08/23/11 12:55:00 PM
#61:


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Okay guys, I have some IP to blow. I need an AP caster, and I've narrowed it down to these three.

Orianna
Lux
Nidalee

I plan to buy them all eventually, but for now, which one do I go with?


Orianna. She's OP at the moment.

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Biolizard28
08/23/11 1:14:00 PM
#62:


I'm planning on buying Orianna with some RP once the patch notes come out and I can confirm that it's worth it.

Loved her during free week.

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Articuno2001
08/23/11 1:35:00 PM
#63:


Caitlyn is 6300 IP? geez

I do have 5300 IP but I was saving it for T3 runes >_<

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08/23/11 3:06:00 PM
#64:


Articuno2001 posted...
Caitlyn is 6300 IP? geez

I do have 5300 IP but I was saving it for T3 runes >_<


I know. I think Ashe and Sivir are the only AD ranged carries who aren't 6300.

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Biolizard28
08/23/11 3:37:00 PM
#65:


Tristana.

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Wedge Antilles
08/23/11 6:25:00 PM
#66:


If we have another character battle, we should so nominate gentleman cho'gath.

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Biolizard28
08/23/11 7:30:00 PM
#67:


Anyone want to solo queue later?

I don't want to play with a bunch of SQUARES.

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08/23/11 7:34:00 PM
#68:


Any more suggestions for my question?

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Biolizard28
08/23/11 7:44:00 PM
#69:


My apologies. *ahem*

Anagram posted...
Okay guys, I have some IP to blow. I need an AP caster, and I've narrowed it down to these three.

Orianna
Lux
Nidalee

I plan to buy them all eventually, but for now, which one do I go with?


Orianna is considered one of the best casters in the game right now, but if you're springing for her, wait until the Talon patch notes come out. (Whenever that may be) Nerfs could come at any time. Her learning curve is steep, but not unbearable.

You seem to have a lot of fun with Lux, but I can't speak for her strengths. Like everyone except for, like, five champions, she's usable and credit to team. Nidalee is someone I know nothing about, but with her offensive options getting a buff, now's the perfect time to jump in.

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Peace___Frog
08/23/11 8:24:00 PM
#70:


Nidalee is not an AP caster.

She really only has 1 "AP caster" skill, and that's her Q - AKA the slowest skillshot in the game, outside of Anivia's Q (which at least goes through minions).

Honestly, I'd classify Nidalee as a support pusher.

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Peace___Frog
08/23/11 8:25:00 PM
#71:


Like really, getting MPen might be viable on her now, with the cougar mode getting buffed to 1.5 x strong as it used to be, but she's more like Jax than Lux, that's for sure.

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Biolizard28
08/23/11 8:26:00 PM
#72:


Isn't most of Nidalee's damage magic, anyway?

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Peace___Frog
08/23/11 8:34:00 PM
#73:


You build AP on her, yes.

But that doesn't make her an AP caster.

Prior to the upcoming patch, her human Q, and her cougar Q, W, and E were all based off of AP ratios. But the cougar ratios were so poor (E's was .2, for instance), that her late-game scaling was very poor, with cougar mode.

So you'd spend 75% of the time in human mode, right?

W does almost no damage, and only gives vision when stepped on. It's a much much weaker Teemo shroom, with even an even worse AP ratio. So her spear was 90% of her magic damage.

Most AP casters have more than 1 spell, is what I was mostly getting it. But with her new and improved cougar mode, and weaker heal (which, IMO, was the main reason to get as much AP as fats as possible on her), she does more magic damage - but it's melee-based damage, and building hybrid on her is much more viable than building hybrid Orianna.

My main point was if you're looking for an AP caster sort of champ, Nidalee is not it.

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Justin_Crossing
08/23/11 8:36:00 PM
#74:


Need more full patch notes.

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Peace___Frog
08/23/11 8:38:00 PM
#75:


also, my first sentence about AP ratios - all of her moves scale off of AP, but only those 4 deal reliable damage

human W also deals magic damage based off of AP, but it's so insignificant, and the only reason you lay traps around is as pseudo-wards and for decreasing the enemy's armor and MR

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Biolizard28
08/23/11 8:51:00 PM
#76:




Talon time.

Looks really cool and relatively strong, but given Riot's track record, I'm going to wait a day or two before I drop dosh.

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Biolizard28
08/23/11 9:09:00 PM
#77:


And long awaited PATCH NOTES

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=13349517

Alistar nerfs = F***

Orianna nerfs = I told you bout Riot, bro (But they seem pretty tame)

Turtle stance Udyr was ravaged.

Everything else is either known or who cares

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Gwindor
08/23/11 9:29:00 PM
#78:


So, how do people play Orianna and do well?

My roommate insists on playing Orianna, and he's terrible with her. Absolutely terrible, we've lost a lot because of it.

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Biolizard28
08/23/11 9:30:00 PM
#79:


Terrible how?

In itemization or skill usage?

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Justin_Crossing
08/23/11 9:30:00 PM
#80:


Watching Udyr beat Annie mid because of turtle stance in the IEM was really funny.

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Gwindor
08/23/11 9:36:00 PM
#81:


I...don't know.

He has no noticeable damage output. He gets out-laned by everyone, and has really low farm. In team fights, he ults and shields someone, and that's his entire contribution. The only time he can kill anyone is if they are already low. It's...bad.

He plays a really kick-ass Malz and Janna, and he's not bad with Anivia, but he insists on playing Orianna, until he "gets good with her."

I was surprised when people were saying she was broken, and that she's getting nerfed. I thought she was just a terrible champion.

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Justin_Crossing
08/23/11 9:37:00 PM
#82:


low farm results in bad everything else

i have literally no idea how your friend can get low farm with her. at level 9, q->e nukes caster minions

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Justin_Crossing
08/23/11 9:42:00 PM
#83:


doran's -> boots -> Roa/Rabadon's (if you get RoA, Rabadon's second) -> Void Staff with durability items in between as needed

chalice lmao

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Gwindor
08/23/11 9:43:00 PM
#84:


His items have been

Meki->boots->RoA->Lucidity boots->Chalice of harmony->death cap

Edit: Just spoke with him, apparently he does q-e the minions...once he can. His early farm is still bad.

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Gwindor
08/23/11 9:51:00 PM
#85:


Yeah, he refuses to not get chalice. He takes it as a personal insult when I bring it up.

Also: I promised Vesp and friends a game tonight, but it looks like they aren't on. Sorry I missed you.

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Justin_Crossing
08/23/11 9:52:00 PM
#86:


dominion

next patch

omg

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Justin_Crossing
08/23/11 9:52:00 PM
#87:


no worries gwindor i've been extremely busy with stuff all day

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Luis_Sera89
08/23/11 9:55:00 PM
#88:


I have a funny Orianna build that capitalises on her passive, but it works for me anyway.

Sapphire Crystal + pots -> Sheen -> Boots -> RoA/Level 2 boots -> Nashor's -> Deathcap -> Lich Bane -> Whatever

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Biolizard28
08/23/11 9:57:00 PM
#89:


Orianna doesn't need any mana items more than Catalyst/RoA

All of her mana problems are early game stuff, and Catalyst takes care of that better than Chalice.

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Phase
08/23/11 10:14:00 PM
#90:


There are games where chalice is viable. Say, you're heavy mana burner vs. a caster w/ strong sustain. There are absolutely no games where chalice is viable after getting a catalyst.

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Peace___Frog
08/23/11 11:18:00 PM
#91:


Pounce

* May now be affected by Cooldown Reduction
* Cooldown increased to 4 seconds from 3 seconds




ok seriously what is this

it used to be 2 seconds, not 3

what the hell, riot

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Peace___Frog
08/23/11 11:25:00 PM
#92:


I mean, unless my tooltip was just stupid, which is definitely possible since they did say they're fixing tooltip errors in cougar mode >_>

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Biolizard28
08/23/11 11:26:00 PM
#93:


Yeah, I was playing Nidalee for the first time today and I saw the cougar mode skill tooltips

I was like "No wonder it needed buffs, jesus"

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08/23/11 11:27:00 PM
#94:


Let's all thank Big Brother for reducing the cooldown from 5 seconds to 4 seconds.

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Peace___Frog
08/23/11 11:34:00 PM
#95:


I'm almost afraid to play her, they've slapped my baby silly.

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Peace___Frog
08/23/11 11:57:00 PM
#96:


ok yeah, old pounce is 3

man, I had never quite realized just how bad those tooltips were

morello's gives me 20% CDR; if I run 9/0/21 I get +3% and +6%, and from CDR glyphs I can get +5.85%; but I think I'd prefer flat AP (for a better level 1 heal, for lane sustainability). Morello's also gives +12/5 mana, so I think instead of rushing rabadons it would be better for me to go dring>boots>codex>rabadons>morellos>whatever. Early codex will definitely help with mana issues and such, I think.

At this point it just strikes me as silly to put any points in the defensive tree for her, even though before I went 0/21/9. Defensive tree gives 0 CDR, and the HP, armor, MR, and AP/AS bonuses just aren't worth it. I think I'll need to work on spears (perhaps not trying to always go for the 250% damagers).


Man I just want these changes to go live already so I don't have current Nidalee taunting me.

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Peace___Frog
08/24/11 12:02:00 AM
#97:


Is utility mastery (30% longer buffs) worth it on a non-jungling champion?

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red13n
08/24/11 12:16:00 AM
#98:


If you are a buff holder for your team, it absolutely is worth it.

Jungles rarely hold those buffs, even.

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Lopen
08/24/11 12:24:00 AM
#99:


If you're going utility tree then there's little reason not to get utility mastery imhhho. Even if it's just to extend the baron buff and for the random time or three you kill a guy with a buff.

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KanzarisKelshen
08/24/11 12:58:00 AM
#100:


Lopen posted...
If you're going utility tree then there's little reason not to get utility mastery imhhho. Even if it's just to extend the baron buff and for the random time or three you kill a guy with a buff.

Baron isn't extended. Yes, really, I'm not kidding.

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