Board 8 > League of Legends Topic 28 - "This is no challenge."

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Heroic_CactObo
10/13/11 8:39:00 PM
#201:


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Forceful_Dragon
10/13/11 10:51:00 PM
#202:


I'm not sure which the last match i posted was.

Either way here are the recent ones including our lame streak. We're going to dig ourselves back up though.

Loss ~ Singed ~ 8-6-13 (3.50) [-17] 1621
Win ~ Garen ~ 4-3-2 (2.00) [+18] 1639
Loss ~ Singed ~ 0-9-1 (0.11) [-19] 1620 (DONT ****ING ASK)
Loss ~ Garen ~ 3-3-3 (2.00) [-19] 1601'
Loss ~ Singed ~ 0-4-1 (0.25) [-16] 1585
Loss ~ Blitzcrank ~ 1-8-5 (0.75) [-16] 1569
Loss ~ Amumu ~ 1-11-5 (0.55) [-18] 1551
Win ~ Kayle ~ 1-0-5 (infinity) [+18] 1569



(I Picked kayle on purpose this time)

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KanzarisKelshen
10/13/11 10:52:00 PM
#203:


From: Forceful_Dragon | #202

Loss ~ Singed ~ 0-9-1 (0.11) [-19] 1620


What happen

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Forceful_Dragon
10/13/11 10:54:00 PM
#204:


officially not talking to Kanz for awhile.

Can i get someone to confirm and notarize this post and then a team of people to prevent me from accidentally talking to him?

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KommunistKoala
10/13/11 10:58:00 PM
#205:


What is that number in parentheses

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Achromatic
10/13/11 11:01:00 PM
#206:


KDA.

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Gwindor
10/13/11 11:32:00 PM
#207:


I'm not really sure what Sona's place on a team is anymore.

What do you do with her?

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KanzarisKelshen
10/13/11 11:34:00 PM
#208:


From: Gwindor | #208
I'm not really sure what Sona's place on a team is anymore.

What do you do with her?


Bully the enemy lane, use dat stun, support, and maybe carry.

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Forceful_Dragon
10/14/11 12:18:00 AM
#209:


Weee:

Win ~ Sona ~ 2-2-22 (12.00) [+19] 1588



edit:
And another-
Win ~ Fiddle ~ 8-13-9 (1.31) [+18] 1606



This was a very very strange game.

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BakusaiTenketsu
10/14/11 12:39:00 AM
#210:


From: KanzarisKelshen | #209
Bully the enemy lane, use dat stun, support, and maybe carry.


This...

I pretty much always start with a Meki, Health Pot, and Mana Pot. Take a point in Q, use it twice before leaving the home point, and head to Bottom Lane. I like taking Teleport and Exhaust as my two spells, Teleport gets me where I need to be for Team Fights faster, Exhaust is mostly for defense for ganks or if I am being focused in Team Fights.

I like to take Bottom Lane, but will generally go with whichever lane partner looks to benefit the most from Sona's presence. This week I have been laning with Singed a lot, but usually anyone tanky is good. Depending on my partner, I will either focus on Healing and letting him have most the Creeps or I will work in tandem with him and start working towards being a Carry. In a Support role, I focus on maxing my Heal (W) first. In a Carry Role, I max my Attack (Q) first. In either case, I always prioritize letting my buddy initiate and I will work in tandem with him.

As a full Support, I try to maximize my CDR with multipurpose items that are also geared on Support, like Shurelya's Reverie and Randuin's Omen. I pick up Boots of Lucidity as well, and Aegis of Legion. I usually build Archangel's staff for AP as well since I use the original Meki Pendant to get a Tear of the Goddess early.

As a Carry, I still get a Tear of the Goddess and Boots of Lucidity, but I focus on more AP and getting a Lichbane.


Biggest thing to keep an eye on is your Chord. Always have a 2 on your Chord meter before you instigate or suspect a potential offensive from the opponents. If you are support built, all 3 of your Power Chord usages are useful, and you need to be keen on when is the best time to use them. Usually your Q Power Chord will be the best. As a Carry though, you pretty much will ONLY be using Q Power Chords. With Sheen/Lichbane and a Q Power Chord, you can take upwards to 50% or more of an enemy's health away from Q followed by the Power Chord attack (it will get double damage from the Power Chord, and it will get boosted damage from your AP for the Lichbane).


The more advanced players you play with, the more likely you will do just Full Support. Carry Sona isn't a good idea in serious games I think. Sona is my main champ (side by side with Sivir).

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KanzarisKelshen
10/14/11 1:34:00 AM
#211:


No, as a carry you get IE and zeal. Lichbane Sona is a crap carry, AD Sona can work.

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Lopen
10/14/11 3:28:00 AM
#212:


IE + Zeal Sona I would love to see this.

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Biolizard28
10/14/11 6:27:00 AM
#213:


Is anyone available to play later tonight, or am I still black listed for not being level 30?

I'm way out of practice.

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Gwindor
10/14/11 6:51:00 AM
#214:


as always, if you're okay with losing every game, message me when you see me and you can queue with me and my roommates.

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BakusaiTenketsu
10/14/11 7:16:00 AM
#215:


From: KanzarisKelshen | #211
No, as a carry you get IE and zeal. Lichbane Sona is a crap carry, AD Sona can work.


<_> Works for me just fine. I've never seen you compliment anyone's strategy that differs from you before though, so not too worried about it. Carry Sona isn't taken seriously in competitive play generally anyways.

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Biolizard28
10/14/11 8:02:00 AM
#216:


Sona doesn't carry, she nukes.

People heavily underestimate how badly Staccato can rock your health.

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Peace___Frog
10/14/11 10:44:00 AM
#217:


voltch is a pro AD Sona

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TheConductorSix
10/14/11 11:26:00 AM
#218:


Gwindor and BT

Add Me:BrandonFromLV

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10/14/11 11:46:00 AM
#219:


Holy crap Jaximus is on sale

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/skin-sale-50-jaximus-hextech-singed-desert-trooper-garen

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BakusaiTenketsu
10/14/11 11:47:00 AM
#220:


You guys pay real money for this game? I thought the point was that it's free ^_^.

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SovietGwindor
10/14/11 11:54:00 AM
#221:


how can I not spend money on FrostFire Annie and Reverse Annie

it's impossible

impossible

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Biolizard28
10/14/11 12:09:00 PM
#222:


Just played Orianna for the first time since the nerfs.

Mana cost changes are whatever, since she was already mana starved early game.

But the range nerf on Q?

Holy s***, this is going to take some getting used to.

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10/14/11 12:11:00 PM
#223:


Biolizard28 posted...
Just played Orianna for the first time since the nerfs.

Mana cost changes are whatever, since she was already mana starved early game.

But the range nerf on Q?

Holy s***, this is going to take some getting used to.


How is Orianna on the high tiers of play, anyway?

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Luis_Sera89
10/14/11 12:31:00 PM
#224:


Yeah, getting used to Orianna's range nerfs is kind of rough.

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KanzarisKelshen
10/14/11 3:38:00 PM
#225:


From: BakusaiTenketsu | #215
<_> Works for me just fine. I've never seen you compliment anyone's strategy that differs from you before though, so not too worried about it. Carry Sona isn't taken seriously in competitive play generally anyways.


You haven't been paying attention then. I don't get why people assume I'm that close-minded, considering I have had several intelligent discussions before. I simply know more about the theory behind the game than most people here, that's all. It isn't a boast, but rather a statement: I've got a handy-dandy cheatsheet for every champion on my desktop that includes a bunch of observations on them. I doubt most people bother to do something like that.

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KanzarisKelshen
10/14/11 3:40:00 PM
#226:


From: Biolizard28 | #216
Sona doesn't carry, she nukes.

People heavily underestimate how badly Staccato can rock your health.


Also, Sona can definitely carry. She has Ashe-levels of utility and the tools to do the job. Her base stats could be a little better, but she's very comparable and Crescendo on a carry is pretty insane.

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IhatethisCPU
10/14/11 3:42:00 PM
#227:


Karth and Twitch 3150 IP, now.

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Biolizard28
10/14/11 3:53:00 PM
#228:


From: IhatethisCPU | #227
Karth and Twitch 3150 IP, now.


Called it.

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KanzarisKelshen
10/14/11 10:00:00 PM
#229:




Corki more encouraged to stack AD now, Gunblade eating a bunch of nerfs, Skarner potentially becoming viable, hypercarries less powerful on Dominion, and maybe we're gonna see some other big changes in the patch notes too.

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Gwindor
10/14/11 10:08:00 PM
#230:


why do they keep increasing the length of dominion games =/

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KanzarisKelshen
10/14/11 10:09:00 PM
#231:


From: Gwindor | #230
why do they keep increasing the length of dominion games =/


This will shorten them actually. Pay attention to it.

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Gwindor
10/14/11 10:11:00 PM
#232:


what I got from that is that games will either take the same amount of time, and everyone will be a lower level, or games will take longer and end when people are at the levels they are ending at now.

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KanzarisKelshen
10/14/11 10:31:00 PM
#233:


From: Gwindor | #232
what I got from that is that games will either take the same amount of time, and everyone will be a lower level, or games will take longer and end when people are at the levels they are ending at now.


You misread that. They're going to nerf things that allow stupid comebacks because kills suddenly stop subtracting points from the counter. Less BS comebacks = shorter games.

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Silver_Ermine
10/14/11 10:47:00 PM
#234:


Skarner Buffs.

Thank you.

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Justin_Crossing
10/14/11 10:56:00 PM
#235:


I like how the video is dedicated to Akali completely murdering Kassadins in every single way but there's no Akali nerfs.

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10/14/11 10:56:00 PM
#236:


Dammit Riot

Give me Miss Fortune buffs

Real ones this time

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Biolizard28
10/15/11 6:27:00 AM
#237:


From: Justin_Crossing | #235
I like how the video is dedicated to Akali completely murdering Kassadins in every single way but there's no Akali nerfs.


Akali being a terror one on one isn't the thing people are crying about.

And frankly, the common denominator between Akali, Jax, and their hybrid ilk is Gunblade and its ridiculous stats.

I'm not saying Akali isn't overpowered anymore, but we should see where these nerfs are going before making that call.

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Silverliner182V
10/15/11 9:58:00 AM
#238:


a gunblade nerf isn't going to hurt akali. it'll just hurt anyone else who gets it. Akali will still dominate and people will still cry. Months later after rolling pubs, akali will finally get nerfed while gunblade never gets the nerf reversed.

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Heroic_CactObo
10/15/11 11:32:00 AM
#239:


I thought akali's like #1 item was gunblade
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Biolizard28
10/15/11 12:01:00 PM
#240:


Last I checked, Rylai's/Gunblade/Lich Bane were all mandatory on Akali.

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Phase
10/15/11 12:21:00 PM
#241:


Akali's been very strong for a long time and the reason isn't gunblade. (imo she isn't OP, she just works better in this meta) Gunblade DOES need a nerf for dominion, but my feeling is that making the life leech/spellvamp unique is plenty (the problem is gunblade stacking is ridiculously effective for the cost b/c of the vamp. If that weren't the case, it'd be fine as-is). Hybrid characters are just going to be stronger overall in dominion because of the double pen. You can't really deal with it without removing the base penetration.

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Achromatic
10/15/11 5:57:00 PM
#242:


Kan is dead to me.

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Biolizard28
10/15/11 6:36:00 PM
#243:


From: Achromatic | #242
Kan is dead to me.


Did he only do 5/6 of the build you told him to do?

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KanzarisKelshen
10/15/11 6:52:00 PM
#244:


From: Biolizard28 | #243
Did he only do 5/6 of the build you told him to do?


Chris threw a hissy fit and gave up on Mercenaries in spite of the game being his to win because I cut a deal with Drakeryn. 'Whatever', I say. Nothing related to LoL.

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Lopen
10/15/11 6:57:00 PM
#245:


He was entitled imhhho.

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KanzarisKelshen
10/15/11 6:59:00 PM
#246:


From: Lopen | #245
He was entitled imhhho.


He still had something like 8-2 odds to win, if not higher. Quitting when you're about to take the crown is for pansies.

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Lopen
10/15/11 6:59:00 PM
#247:


Well I think quitting was dumb but whatever deal you made was even more dumb

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KanzarisKelshen
10/15/11 7:01:00 PM
#248:


From: Lopen | #247
Well I think quitting was dumb but whatever deal you made was even more dumb


I'll go over this once the whole mess is sorted out if you're curious about it, but really, not so much.

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Lopen
10/15/11 7:03:00 PM
#249:


What you got is pretty irrelevant. Making a deal like that as a fill in makes it dumb on principle.

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KanzarisKelshen
10/15/11 7:03:00 PM
#250:


From: Lopen | #249
What you got is pretty irrelevant. Making a deal like that as a fill in makes it dumb on principle.


Heh, and that is all I will say on this matter here. Not clogging up the topic further.

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