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Biolizard28
10/18/11 4:22:00 PM
#351:


Hmmmmmm

Okay.

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KanzarisKelshen
10/18/11 4:22:00 PM
#352:


Corki got mega buffed, too. The breakeven point is unreachable using the old Gatling Gun. He's a boss now.

Kog nerf is dog****.

Plank nerf is interesting and surprisingly large. Will have to see more of it before deciding how hard it hits him.

Rest is eh.

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Silver_Ermine
10/18/11 4:30:00 PM
#353:


Kog nerf.

No cait nerf
No akali nerf
No talon nerf that matters

Just lawl.

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Articuno2001
10/18/11 4:32:00 PM
#354:


Akali got nerfed

It's listed under "Hextech Gunblade"

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KanzarisKelshen
10/18/11 4:36:00 PM
#355:


From: Silver_Ermine | #353
Kog nerf.

No cait nerf
No akali nerf
No talon nerf that matters

Just lawl.


If you think the Talon nerf doesn't matter you're not reading at all. It's pretty huge stuff.

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Anagram
10/18/11 6:49:00 PM
#356:


I begin to accept that MF will never be buffed, or if she will be, it'll be for ridiculous things like making her ult scale with AP and AD at the same time.

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MUKMASTER2
10/18/11 6:52:00 PM
#357:


so I was team captain for 3 queues, resulting in 1 game.
Earned the ire of my team+ at least one guy who got switched over for banning mundo 1st game, skarner 2nd queue. 3rd game, everyone decided I was a troll, and I went 8-1-2 in 20 minutes thanks to incredible laning partner Alistar. Best possible ending, because I got to tease everyone for calling me a troll.

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Biolizard28
10/18/11 6:53:00 PM
#358:


Stop whining.

Especially when there are still some legitimately unplayable champs out there who are less flawed/underpowered and more "oh my god why would you pick x please report"

Besides, the past two patches have been extremely minimal and only Skarner came out of this patch with what can actually be considered a substantial change. They probably aren't trying to change everything at once.

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KanzarisKelshen
10/18/11 6:53:00 PM
#359:


From: Anagram | #356
I begin to accept that MF will never be buffed, or if she will be, it'll be for ridiculous things like making her ult scale with AP and AD at the same time.


Why would you buff a balanced carry

Seriously Anagram. SHE IS A GOOD CHARACTER AND DOESN'T NEED BUFFS TO DESTROY ****ES. QUIT CRYING ABOUT MF AND GO GET GOOD WITH HER.

(There's exactly one legit buff you can give her BTW, and you'd think it was inconsequential anyway.)

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Anagram
10/18/11 6:57:00 PM
#360:


KanzarisKelshen posted...
From: Anagram | #356
I begin to accept that MF will never be buffed, or if she will be, it'll be for ridiculous things like making her ult scale with AP and AD at the same time.
Why would you buff a balanced carry

Seriously Anagram. SHE IS A GOOD CHARACTER AND DOESN'T NEED BUFFS TO DESTROY ****ES. QUIT CRYING ABOUT MF AND GO GET GOOD WITH HER.

(There's exactly one legit buff you can give her BTW, and you'd think it was inconsequential anyway.)


What buff is this?

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KanzarisKelshen
10/18/11 7:03:00 PM
#361:


From: Anagram | #360
KanzarisKelshen posted...
From: Anagram | #356
I begin to accept that MF will never be buffed, or if she will be, it'll be for ridiculous things like making her ult scale with AP and AD at the same time.
Why would you buff a balanced carry

Seriously Anagram. SHE IS A GOOD CHARACTER AND DOESN'T NEED BUFFS TO DESTROY ****ES. QUIT CRYING ABOUT MF AND GO GET GOOD WITH HER.

(There's exactly one legit buff you can give her BTW, and you'd think it was inconsequential anyway.)


What buff is this?


Bullet Time doing physical damage. Which is a nerf pre-Last Whisper but it means she doesn't have to worry about her ult not scaling to endgame.

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Anagram
10/18/11 7:07:00 PM
#362:


I wouldn't call that inconsequential, and I've mentioned that buff before myself, though I still think strut shouldn't be entirely lost at 1 damage.

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Aecioo
10/18/11 7:09:00 PM
#363:


Oh man, why change this on Corki.

He was really underrated as a carry after the nerfs, and now Gatling Gun is going to dominate early game when Corki already dominates early.

basically

yesssssssssssssssssss

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KanzarisKelshen
10/18/11 7:11:00 PM
#364:


From: Anagram | #362
I wouldn't call that inconsequential, and I've mentioned that buff before myself, though I still think strut shouldn't be entirely lost at 1 damage.


You lose damage at every point in the game with the BT to physical change unless armor is debuffed. It is pretty inconsequential unless you have Nasus or Taric on your team (or starks+Cleaver).

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Biolizard28
10/18/11 7:13:00 PM
#365:


Making strut not be lost to minion attacks would help, or even giving it a damage threshold.

She's not the worst champion in the game, it's just that she doesn't have any escape options or the laning presence of, say, Caitlyn or Vayne. And she's in direct competition with all of them for a spot on the team.

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Justin_Crossing
10/18/11 7:14:00 PM
#366:


The thing about Strut is they want it to be sort of like Move Quick, but by making it not be cancelled by minions makes it more difficult to balance Teemo because they want Move Quick's passive to be stronger than MF's no-skill passive.

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Biolizard28
10/18/11 7:18:00 PM
#367:


That doesn't stop them from making Swain's passive suck harder than Karthus's second passive.

I may have missed your point, but my point is, give Swain a new passive.

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KanzarisKelshen
10/18/11 9:15:00 PM
#368:




Graves looks boss. Also, dat quote against nox.

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Anagram
10/18/11 9:32:00 PM
#369:


KanzarisKelshen posted...


Graves looks boss. Also, dat quote against nox.


The quote was the best part.

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Justin_Crossing
10/18/11 9:39:00 PM
#370:


Smokescreen is so fundamentally ridiculous.

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KanzarisKelshen
10/18/11 9:49:00 PM
#371:


From: Justin_Crossing | #370
Smokescreen is so fundamentally ridiculous.


Of course, as it should be.

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KanzarisKelshen
10/18/11 10:00:00 PM
#372:


HOLY ****

Graves gets 40 (FORTY) Armor/MR from his passive! And all he has to do is fight minions for a while. Hot damn!

(charges over 10 seconds, 4 per sec for the curious)

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Justin_Crossing
10/18/11 10:07:00 PM
#373:


From: KanzarisKelshen | #372
HOLY ****

Graves gets 40 (FORTY) Armor/MR from his passive! And all he has to do is fight minions for a while. Hot damn!

(charges over 10 seconds, 4 per sec for the curious)


The amount gained probably starts at 1 or 2 and then scales. I doubt it's a flat 40 of each at level 1 >_>

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KanzarisKelshen
10/18/11 10:09:00 PM
#374:


From: Justin_Crossing | #373
The amount gained probably starts at 1 or 2 and then scales. I doubt it's a flat 40 of each at level 1 >_>


Starts at 2 and scales to 4. For reference this means Graves will never take true damage during laning for example.

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Gwindor
10/18/11 10:51:00 PM
#375:


did you guys know LeBlanc can safely turret dive at level one?

She totally can.

It's really sad that she's making a comeback =/

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WaIker
10/18/11 10:56:00 PM
#376:


LeBlanc can't exactly come back at all. She's not one of those champs who fluctuates between horrible and great. She's got this "ridiculous early game and horrible lategame" stigma that needs to be adressed and she's not going anywhere until she gets changes. The champs that start out as bad and then make their way to the top (a la lee sin) are ones who have mechanics that people aren't using to their maximum potential. Leblanc, while having the W pullback, doesn't actually have anything super tricky and crazy going on. Riot actually decided to make her more burst than tricky during her development process so she's a straightforward champ. She doesn't have any crazy Q -> E -> R -> Q -> E trick that takes people a while to figure out. She's just QRW for maximum potential. (assuming I'm not mixing up the dash with the chain for W)

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Gwindor
10/18/11 10:58:00 PM
#377:


It's just kind of sad to give up first blood, at full health, from under your turret, at 1:30

LeBlanc needs to be...different. Somehow.

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Biolizard28
10/19/11 4:30:00 AM
#378:


LeBlanc had better be able to ruin at level one, because after the early game she falls off completely. She needs to be fixed.

520 Nocturne skin is good news, everyone.

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Lopen
10/19/11 4:34:00 AM
#379:


I don't even know how that happens. Leblanc's level 1 burst isn't anything special.

Her level 2 burst, however...

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red13n
10/19/11 5:48:00 AM
#380:


what in all hell. The servers werent even down for 3 hours.

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Biolizard28
10/19/11 5:49:00 AM
#381:


Graves is very persuasive.

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Anagram
10/19/11 9:16:00 AM
#382:


They changed True Grit's name to Gunslinger.

What a gyp.

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Biolizard28
10/19/11 9:30:00 AM
#383:


I haven't had much time with Graves, but he seems pretty good.

Buckshot rips into everything.

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Aecioo
10/19/11 9:58:00 AM
#384:


I forgot how strong Trist is.

now I remember

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Gwindor
10/19/11 10:06:00 AM
#385:


"pentakill" tristana

hardest carry in the game

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KanzarisKelshen
10/19/11 10:08:00 AM
#386:


So guys, how do you like Graves' 900 burst damage at 6 with a Doran's Blade? I can't wait to get my claws on him. Curse you etch-a-sketch! CURSE YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!

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Gwindor
10/19/11 10:14:00 AM
#387:


is it worth it to switch to smart-casting?

sometimes, when I want to unload all my abilities, I'll fail to click the mouse button. The ability doesn't go off, and the situation is less optimal than I know it could be.

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KanzarisKelshen
10/19/11 10:22:00 AM
#388:


From: Gwindor | #387
is it worth it to switch to smart-casting?

sometimes, when I want to unload all my abilities, I'll fail to click the mouse button. The ability doesn't go off, and the situation is less optimal than I know it could be.


Depends on the player. Try it out and see.

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Aecioo
10/19/11 10:31:00 AM
#389:


Gwindor posted...
is it worth it to switch to smart-casting?

sometimes, when I want to unload all my abilities, I'll fail to click the mouse button. The ability doesn't go off, and the situation is less optimal than I know it could be.


your first issue is clicking your abilities instead of just hotkeying it.

You can get by with 90% of the champions without smart casting. But if you're manually clicking on an ability then clicking on the screen, you're slowed down a lot.

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Biolizard28
10/19/11 10:43:00 AM
#390:


You know, Buckshot doesn't seem impressive for the damage.

Then you realize each shell does 240 base each.

I'm having fun with Graves, but I'm still trying to find a good build for him that isn't generic carry ish.

Triforce? Black Cleaver? Manamune? Sky's the limit.

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Gwindor
10/19/11 10:47:00 AM
#391:


heavens no, I'm totally pressing qwer to use abilities. But after that, sometimes I'll move on to the next one in the combo without getting the mouse click off to actually use it.

Like, say, soul shackles. I'll press Q but fail to follow it up with the mouse click, so it doesn't actually go off.

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KanzarisKelshen
10/19/11 10:53:00 AM
#392:


From: Biolizard28 | #390
You know, Buckshot doesn't seem impressive for the damage.

Then you realize each shell does 240 base each.

I'm having fun with Graves, but I'm still trying to find a good build for him that isn't generic carry ish.

Triforce? Black Cleaver? Manamune? Sky's the limit.


Thirster/IE+PD+GA. Carry like a boss. Get more damage or more resists as necessary according to the situation. Atma's is cash on him for example.

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Aecioo
10/19/11 11:04:00 AM
#393:


Oh ok, gotcha, I wasn't sure from what you said.

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Biolizard28
10/19/11 11:30:00 AM
#394:


It's almost time for level 30. I should reach it by the end of next week.

After I buy Nidalee (Hnnnnnnnnnnnng) I'm going to start polishing off my rune pages.

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KommunistKoala
10/19/11 11:48:00 AM
#395:


Nerfing GP's E to garbage 'ugh'

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Aecioo
10/19/11 11:50:00 AM
#396:


You would have hit 30 sooner if you didn't play a million bot games Bio!

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Biolizard28
10/19/11 11:50:00 AM
#397:


I AM NOT DEALING WITH THE HORRORS OF SOLO QUEUE

I'D RATHER DIE

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KanzarisKelshen
10/19/11 12:00:00 PM
#398:


From: KommunistKoala | #395
Nerfing GP's E to garbage 'ugh'


Overreacting to a minor damage nerf and a noticeable but not brutal MS nerf 'ugh'

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Phase
10/19/11 12:32:00 PM
#399:


lol, if they nerf GP's E much more he'll get what his allies USED to get for the active.

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Biolizard28
10/19/11 12:34:00 PM
#400:


Man, Nocturne is such a boss.

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