Board 8 > Most Powerful Fictional Character 2011: Anti-Spiral vs. NoN Lelouch [MPFC]

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GANON1025 10/21/11 9:54:00 PM #101:	Those super strong attacks only came from his TTGL-form though right? -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. <cite>GANON1025 posted [p:464644] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> Those super strong attacks only came from his TTGL-form though right? -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LlednarTwem 10/21/11 9:57:00 PM #102:	If the anti-spiral himself fights Lelouch, it's not going to be in the galaxy sized mach. He used that to match TTGL. Both the anti-spiral himself and Lordgenome establish that when the Anti-Spiral himself does battle, he matches the opponent to fight on an equal playing field. Furthermore, unlike giant robots, the anti-spiral won't have had tremendous amounts of experience using abilities like those Lelouch possesses. -- Dying breath, light my blade and sing in shadow! Omega! <cite>LlednarTwem posted [p:464645] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> If the anti-spiral himself fights Lelouch, it's not going to be in the galaxy sized mach. He used that to match TTGL. Both the anti-spiral himself and Lordgenome establish that when the Anti-Spiral himself does battle, he matches the opponent to fight on an equal playing field. Furthermore, unlike giant robots, the anti-spiral won't have had tremendous amounts of experience using abilities like those Lelouch possesses. -- Dying breath, light my blade and sing in shadow! Omega! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Xiahou Shake 10/21/11 9:59:00 PM #103:	Some of these posts make me think that some people in here are thinking of Lelouch of the Rebellion. >_> Anyway, NoN Lelouch, based on the current arguments. -- Falcon Punch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw <cite>Xiahou Shake posted [p:464646] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> Some of these posts make me think that some people in here are thinking of Lelouch of the Rebellion. >_>Anyway, NoN Lelouch, based on the current arguments. -- Falcon Punchhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFtw7qW7Vcw </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GANON1025 10/21/11 10:00:00 PM #104:	That's right, not only is he arrogant but AS wants humans to feel true despair. So he matches his opponent's power and tries to best them in order to do such. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. <cite>GANON1025 posted [p:464647] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> That's right, not only is he arrogant but AS wants humans to feel true despair. So he matches his opponent's power and tries to best them in order to do such. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 10/21/11 10:14:00 PM #105:	Also if they were to fight (AS fighting personally) it would be in the AS universe where he controls everything -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:464648] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> Also if they were to fight (AS fighting personally) it would be in the AS universe where he controls everything -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 10/21/11 10:17:00 PM #106:	Let me repeat that the Lelouch being argued here is GameFAQS Lelouch - and that GANON has admitted as much. He doesn't have a hope in hell of beating Anti-Spiral and I am very disappointed with the voters for bandwagoning him. -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross. Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:464649] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> Let me repeat that the Lelouch being argued here is GameFAQS Lelouch - and that GANON has admitted as much. He doesn't have a hope in hell of beating Anti-Spiral and I am very disappointed with the voters for bandwagoning him. -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross.Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GANON1025 10/21/11 10:18:00 PM #107:	Wired (specifically Suzaku and the aformentioned Camelot robot zombie guys) showed resistance to the Zero, so all Wired probably have some sort of inherit defense against attacks that wipe you from existence. Plus as the Demon King Lelouch would get CC's resistance to Geass abilities which might help him against the copying Anti-Spiral. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. <cite>GANON1025 posted [p:464650] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> Wired (specifically Suzaku and the aformentioned Camelot robot zombie guys) showed resistance to the Zero, so all Wired probably have some sort of inherit defense against attacks that wipe you from existence. Plus as the Demon King Lelouch would get CC's resistance to Geass abilities which might help him against the copying Anti-Spiral. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 10/21/11 10:18:00 PM #108:	I still don't see how Lelouch comes back instantly from being lasered to death by Mugann (yes it was established he would come back but instantly?) I know this is Code Geass knowledge and probably way different to NoN but when CC was shot in the head she was incapacitated for a little bit. -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:464651] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> I still don't see how Lelouch comes back instantly from being lasered to death by Mugann (yes it was established he would come back but instantly?)I know this is Code Geass knowledge and probably way different to NoN but when CC was shot in the head she was incapacitated for a little bit. -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GANON1025 10/21/11 10:18:00 PM #109:	Everything I have argued is based on what appears in Nightmare of Nunally. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. <cite>GANON1025 posted [p:464652] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> Everything I have argued is based on what appears in Nightmare of Nunally. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 10/21/11 10:20:00 PM #110:	so...Anti Spiral copies him...wouldnt that basically make him to immune to Lelouch hax basically nullifying Lelouch altogether...(CC nullifier) again I still don't see how it even gets to this point as Lelouch would be done long before this -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:464653] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> so...Anti Spiral copies him...wouldnt that basically make him to immune to Lelouch hax basically nullifying Lelouch altogether...(CC nullifier)again I still don't see how it even gets to this point as Lelouch would be done long before this -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GANON1025 10/21/11 10:22:00 PM #111:	If AS copies his powers, he wouldn't become a Wired I don't think. Plus Lelouch has other means of attack, he could use The Ice to freeze him in time for instance. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. <cite>GANON1025 posted [p:464654] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> If AS copies his powers, he wouldn't become a Wired I don't think. Plus Lelouch has other means of attack, he could use The Ice to freeze him in time for instance. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GANON1025 10/21/11 10:23:00 PM #112:	I mean when AS copied the TTGL he didn't become an exact duplicate. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. <cite>GANON1025 posted [p:464655] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> I mean when AS copied the TTGL he didn't become an exact duplicate. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 10/21/11 10:23:00 PM #113:	AS controls time and space in his universe probably wouldn't work again this is for the very minimal chance Lelouch actually gets to AS (heck he would just be constantly crushed by Mugann since he wouldn't be able to touch them and thus be unable to use Zero hax) -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:464656] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> AS controls time and space in his universe probably wouldn't workagain this is for the very minimal chance Lelouch actually gets to AS (heck he would just be constantly crushed by Mugann since he wouldn't be able to touch them and thus be unable to use Zero hax) -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 10/21/11 10:24:00 PM #114:	I mean when AS copied the TTGL he didn't become an exact duplicate. Your right. He became better -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:464657] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> I mean when AS copied the TTGL he didn't become an exact duplicate.Your right. He became better -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanglicious 10/21/11 10:25:00 PM #115:	he only goes a smidge above 'em in parameters. the rest, not so much. at the very least intelligence and anything to do with the brain is out. if he wants geass powers, lelouch is gonna have to give him some. -- The future must protect the clone's past. "Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel. <cite>Wanglicious posted [p:464658] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> he only goes a smidge above 'em in parameters. the rest, not so much. at the very least intelligence and anything to do with the brain is out. if he wants geass powers, lelouch is gonna have to give him some. -- The future must protect the clone's past."Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GANON1025 10/21/11 10:28:00 PM #116:	AS didn't use spiral energy to power his mech did he? I think AS will copy Lelouch and get abilities with similar effects, but won't be from the same source as in Geass/Eden Vital. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. <cite>GANON1025 posted [p:464659] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> AS didn't use spiral energy to power his mech did he? I think AS will copy Lelouch and get abilities with similar effects, but won't be from the same source as in Geass/Eden Vital. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LlednarTwem 10/21/11 10:31:00 PM #117:	There's also the issue that the Anti-Spiral isn't exactly omniscient. He'll put himself on the same level as Lelouch, yes, but he's not going to automatically know everything Lelouch can do. Like I mentioned a few posts ago, giant robots are things the Anti Spiral has tremendous experience with. Lelouch is not. -- Dying breath, light my blade and sing in shadow! Omega! <cite>LlednarTwem posted [p:464660] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> There's also the issue that the Anti-Spiral isn't exactly omniscient. He'll put himself on the same level as Lelouch, yes, but he's not going to automatically know everything Lelouch can do. Like I mentioned a few posts ago, giant robots are things the Anti Spiral has tremendous experience with. Lelouch is not. -- Dying breath, light my blade and sing in shadow! Omega! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 10/21/11 10:31:00 PM #118:	Im not sure he either used Spiral power or "Anti Spiral" energy which was basically the same thing. I don't think it was said what he actually used (but it seemed to be identical in effect either way) -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:464661] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> Im not sure he either used Spiral power or "Anti Spiral" energy which was basically the same thing. I don't think it was said what he actually used (but it seemed to be identical in effect either way) -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 10/21/11 10:31:00 PM #119:	oh come on stop debating it spiral wins jeez -- http://img.imgcake.com/Nevest356/1dollagifas.gif <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:464662] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> oh come on stop debating it spiral wins jeez -- http://img.imgcake.com/Nevest356/1dollagifas.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wanglicious 10/21/11 10:36:00 PM #120:	literally can't use spiral power, no. doesn't copy the source, doesn't copy the power, doesn't copy any power even. just outdoes 'em in specs because he's that kind of an arrogant dick. no reason it'd include any activated powerups, but fi any of 'em are combat oriented it really wouldn't mean much by default. if on the other hand you have means of disabling, or some really bizarre techniques in you, he'd be screwed. main way to win is to outsmart him and to have a good bag of tricks. fits for NoN Lelouch well there. -- The future must protect the clone's past. "Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel. <cite>Wanglicious posted [p:464663] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> literally can't use spiral power, no. doesn't copy the source, doesn't copy the power, doesn't copy any power even. just outdoes 'em in specs because he's that kind of an arrogant dick. no reason it'd include any activated powerups, but fi any of 'em are combat oriented it really wouldn't mean much by default. if on the other hand you have means of disabling, or some really bizarre techniques in you, he'd be screwed. main way to win is to outsmart him and to have a good bag of tricks. fits for NoN Lelouch well there. -- The future must protect the clone's past."Maybe it's a tentacle, molesting the planet itself. - Aschen Brodel. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dragon22391 10/21/11 10:38:00 PM #121:	*XIII_rocks posted...* oh come on stop debating it spiral wins jeez *KanzarisKelshen posted...* Let me repeat that the Lelouch being argued here is GameFAQS Lelouch - and that GANON has admitted as much. He doesn't have a hope in hell of beating Anti-Spiral and I am very disappointed with the voters for bandwagoning him. Great arguments like these are why Anti-Spiral is running away with this match, really. -- I'm too tired to drive anywhere, anyway, right now, do you care if I praise Black Turtle? Call me numbers. <cite>dragon22391 posted [p:464664] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> XIII_rocks posted...oh come on stop debating it spiral wins jeezKanzarisKelshen posted...Let me repeat that the Lelouch being argued here is GameFAQS Lelouch - and that GANON has admitted as much. He doesn't have a hope in hell of beating Anti-Spiral and I am very disappointed with the voters for bandwagoning him.Great arguments like these are why Anti-Spiral is running away with this match, really. -- I'm too tired to drive anywhere, anyway, right now, do you care if I praise Black Turtle?Call me numbers. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 10/21/11 10:39:00 PM #122:	JEEZ -- XIIIiscool (2:47 am): gets in a car I'M F**ING COMING FOR YOU RUSTY RustyMrMokka has left the room. <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:464665] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> JEEZ -- XIIIiscool (2:47 am): gets in a car* I'M F***ING COMING FOR YOU RUSTYRustyMrMokka has left the room. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GANON1025 10/21/11 10:41:00 PM #123:	no way non lelouch takes it gosh -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. <cite>GANON1025 posted [p:464666] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> no way non lelouch takes it gosh -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 10/21/11 10:43:00 PM #124:	my face at this match and how its currently going + comments: -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:464667] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> my face at this match and how its currently going + comments: -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 10/21/11 10:55:00 PM #125:	also (even though this wouldn't happen) I still like the idea of Lelouch getting haxed by Labyrinth leading to this -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:464668] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> also (even though this wouldn't happen) I still like the idea of Lelouch getting haxed by Labyrinth leading to this -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 10/21/11 10:56:00 PM #126:	From: GANON1025 \| #123 no way non lelouch takes it gosh F* I'M CONVINCED CHANGE TO LELOUCH -- http://i.imgur.com/GH3sK.jpg <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:464669] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> From: GANON1025 \| #123no way non lelouch takes it goshF* I'M CONVINCEDCHANGE TO LELOUCH -- http://i.imgur.com/GH3sK.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 10/21/11 11:02:00 PM #127:	-- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:464670] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
XIII_rocks 10/21/11 11:07:00 PM #128:	NOT REALLY LOL CHANGE TO ANTISPIRAL <cite>XIII_rocks posted [p:464671] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> NOT REALLY LOL CHANGE TO ANTISPIRAL </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 10/21/11 11:07:00 PM #129:	NOT REALLY LOL CHANGE TO ANTISPIRAL -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:464672] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> NOT REALLY LOL CHANGE TO ANTISPIRAL -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 10/22/11 12:10:00 AM #130:	[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster] <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:464673] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> [This message was deleted at the request of the original poster] </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 10/22/11 9:30:00 AM #131:	Also couldn't Anti Spiral also break into Eden Vital (since he casually destroys universes / dimensions / travels dimensions etc Also wouldn't the Labyrinth also cut off Lelouch's connection with Eden (I know its been said it wouldn't by the Lelouch voters but it also technically cut the Dai Gurren crew from spiral power. Simon only did it because he is broken lol. like Lelouch put into a reality where he never found geass etc -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:464674] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> Also couldn't Anti Spiral also break into Eden Vital (since he casually destroys universes / dimensions / travels dimensions etcAlso wouldn't the Labyrinth also cut off Lelouch's connection with Eden (I know its been said it wouldn't by the Lelouch voters but it also technically cut the Dai Gurren crew from spiral power. Simon only did it because he is broken lol.like Lelouch put into a reality where he never found geass etc -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Silencer S 10/22/11 10:02:00 AM #132:	Anti-Spiral. I've never really been interested in what characters can theoretically do, but rather what they've shown. For example, The text implies Lelouch is invincible and with The Zero he can turn anything into nothing. I can see where you're coming from What's the strongest attack he's shown to blow off like this? If it's above AS demonstrated power output, then I'd agree; he's invincible for the purposes of this match. If not, well, then it's not as convincing. -- *"Give him a fair trial. Then shoot him."* - Napoleon Bonaparte after the capture of Andreas Hofer <cite>Silencer S posted [p:464675] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> Anti-Spiral.I've never really been interested in what characters can theoretically do, but rather what they've shown. For example, The text implies Lelouch is invincible and with The Zero he can turn anything into nothing. I can see where you're coming fromWhat's the strongest attack he's shown to blow off like this? If it's above AS demonstrated power output, then I'd agree; he's invincible for the purposes of this match. If not, well, then it's not as convincing. -- "Give him a fair trial. Then shoot him." - Napoleon Bonaparte after the capture of Andreas Hofer </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GANON1025 10/22/11 10:06:00 AM #133:	I'll try to look into it, but from what I remember there's attacks from super robots, which would generously be called continent busters, and was able to negate being frozen in time. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. <cite>GANON1025 posted [p:464676] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> I'll try to look into it, but from what I remember there's attacks from super robots, which would generously be called continent busters, and was able to negate being frozen in time. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 10/22/11 10:08:00 AM #134:	From: dragon22391 \| #121 *XIII_rocks posted...* oh come on stop debating it spiral wins jeez *KanzarisKelshen posted...* Let me repeat that the Lelouch being argued here is GameFAQS Lelouch - and that GANON has admitted as much. He doesn't have a hope in hell of beating Anti-Spiral and I am very disappointed with the voters for bandwagoning him. Great arguments like these are why Anti-Spiral is running away with this match, really. Let me put it this way then: Antispiral powerscales until he's better than he's opponent. Unlike the other powerscaling dude in this contest, he doesn't quit if you beat him though, he just becomes stronger. His true ceiling is infinitely higher than Lelouch's. So, what stops him from scaling up again and again until he can ease the Geass' powers Lelouch has granted him, nullify his invulnerability, and quash him like a bug with a galaxy sized drill shot? -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross. Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:464677] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> From: dragon22391 \| #121XIII_rocks posted...oh come on stop debating it spiral wins jeezKanzarisKelshen posted...Let me repeat that the Lelouch being argued here is GameFAQS Lelouch - and that GANON has admitted as much. He doesn't have a hope in hell of beating Anti-Spiral and I am very disappointed with the voters for bandwagoning him.Great arguments like these are why Anti-Spiral is running away with this match, really.Let me put it this way then: Antispiral powerscales until he's better than he's opponent. Unlike the other powerscaling dude in this contest, he doesn't quit if you beat him though, he just becomes stronger. His true ceiling is infinitely higher than Lelouch's. So, what stops him from scaling up again and again until he can ease the Geass' powers Lelouch has granted him, nullify his invulnerability, and quash him like a bug with a galaxy sized drill shot? -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross.Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeathChicken 10/22/11 10:11:00 AM #135:	Lelouch -- We are thought, and reality, and concept, and the unimaginable <cite>DeathChicken posted [p:464678] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> Lelouch -- We are thought, and reality, and concept, and the unimaginable </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 10/22/11 10:12:00 AM #136:	Let me put it this way then: Antispiral powerscales until he's better than he's opponent. Unlike the other powerscaling dude in this contest, he doesn't quit if you beat him though, he just becomes stronger. His true ceiling is infinitely higher than Lelouch's. So, what stops him from scaling up again and again until he can ease the Geass' powers Lelouch has granted him, nullify his invulnerability, and quash him like a bug with a galaxy sized drill shot? true also technically his "go to their level" thing eventually goes out the window (points to Super Grand Zamboa trying to squash regular sized gurren lagann in the movie or regular grand zamboa with the mini tengen toppas) -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:464679] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> Let me put it this way then: Antispiral powerscales until he's better than he's opponent. Unlike the other powerscaling dude in this contest, he doesn't quit if you beat him though, he just becomes stronger. His true ceiling is infinitely higher than Lelouch's. So, what stops him from scaling up again and again until he can ease the Geass' powers Lelouch has granted him, nullify his invulnerability, and quash him like a bug with a galaxy sized drill shot?true also technically his "go to their level" thing eventually goes out the window(points to Super Grand Zamboa trying to squash regular sized gurren lagann in the movie or regular grand zamboa with the mini tengen toppas) -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GANON1025 10/22/11 10:15:00 AM #137:	What's to stop him doing that? It wouldn't show Lelouch true despair like it would if he beat him at Lelouch's power. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. <cite>GANON1025 posted [p:464680] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> What's to stop him doing that? It wouldn't show Lelouch true despair like it would if he beat him at Lelouch's power. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GANON1025 10/22/11 10:16:00 AM #138:	And, about the The Zero, like I said it's been used to stop almighty/godly powers before too, but not direct attacks (as far as I remember anyway, I could be missing something). -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. <cite>GANON1025 posted [p:464681] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> And, about the The Zero, like I said it's been used to stop almighty/godly powers before too, but not direct attacks (as far as I remember anyway, I could be missing something). -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 10/22/11 10:21:00 AM #139:	From: GANON1025 \| #137 What's to stop him doing that? It wouldn't show Lelouch true despair like it would if he beat him at Lelouch's power. If he says '** it', that's kind of the point, Lelouch is done. -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross. Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:464682] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> From: GANON1025 \| #137What's to stop him doing that? It wouldn't show Lelouch true despair like it would if he beat him at Lelouch's power.If he says '** it', that's kind of the point, Lelouch is done. -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross.Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 10/22/11 10:22:00 AM #140:	From: GANON1025 \| #138 And, about the The Zero, like I said it's been used to stop almighty/godly powers before too, but not direct attacks (as far as I remember anyway, I could be missing something). Not really an issue though. TTGL reality warping bypasses things like the impossibility of functioning. -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross. Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:464683] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> From: GANON1025 \| #138And, about the The Zero, like I said it's been used to stop almighty/godly powers before too, but not direct attacks (as far as I remember anyway, I could be missing something).Not really an issue though. TTGL reality warping bypasses things like the impossibility of functioning. -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross.Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GANON1025 10/22/11 10:24:00 AM #141:	The Anti-Spiral wouldn't go that far at first. He'd try to match Lelouch, but he wouldn't get the Geass/Wired defense so Lelouch could use The Zero to destroy him infinitely, or use The Ice to freeze him in time or something. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. <cite>GANON1025 posted [p:464684] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> The Anti-Spiral wouldn't go that far at first. He'd try to match Lelouch, but he wouldn't get the Geass/Wired defense so Lelouch could use The Zero to destroy him infinitely, or use The Ice to freeze him in time or something. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KanzarisKelshen 10/22/11 10:26:00 AM #142:	From: GANON1025 \| #141 The Anti-Spiral wouldn't go that far at first. He'd try to match Lelouch, but he wouldn't get the Geass/Wired defense so Lelouch could use The Zero to destroy him infinitely, or use The Ice to freeze him in time or something. Which wouldn't really stop him though. That's the wonder of (anti) hot-blooded energy. There's also another issue: Antispiral is too big for Lelouch. None of us can see a galaxy from the point we stand at. Neither can Lelouch see a being MUCH bigger than a galaxy. -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross. Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 <cite>KanzarisKelshen posted [p:464685] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> From: GANON1025 \| #141The Anti-Spiral wouldn't go that far at first. He'd try to match Lelouch, but he wouldn't get the Geass/Wired defense so Lelouch could use The Zero to destroy him infinitely, or use The Ice to freeze him in time or something.Which wouldn't really stop him though. That's the wonder of (anti) hot-blooded energy.There's also another issue: Antispiral is too big for Lelouch. None of us can see a galaxy from the point we stand at. Neither can Lelouch see a being MUCH bigger than a galaxy. -- Currently playing: League of Legends, Chrono Cross.Current Projects: Fool's Overture, CYOA: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/60143513 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GANON1025 10/22/11 10:28:00 AM #143:	But, Anti-Spiral wouldn't grow that large to fight Lelouch. He'd be more around his "human" form's height, maybe a little bigger and decked out in some Anti-Zero Suit stuff. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. <cite>GANON1025 posted [p:464686] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> But, Anti-Spiral wouldn't grow that large to fight Lelouch. He'd be more around his "human" form's height, maybe a little bigger and decked out in some Anti-Zero Suit stuff. -- You beat yourself up with your past. Don't blame yourself, blame the world. Blame God. Blame me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KimPilgrim 10/22/11 10:29:00 AM #144:	Is this really happening This is Buster Machine #7 vs Spider-Man all over again Anti-Spiral -- ~LtM http://img.imgcake.com/1309914563818gifpa.gif <cite>KimPilgrim posted [p:464687] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> Is this really happeningThis is Buster Machine #7 vs Spider-Man all over againAnti-Spiral -- ~LtMhttp://img.imgcake.com/1309914563818gifpa.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
th3l3fty 10/22/11 10:32:00 AM #145:	NoN Lelouch power levels mean absolutely nothing when your opponent's M.O. is to fight you on your level, and Lelouch has enough extra abilities to take out Anti-Spiral from there -- thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -tranny I have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris <cite>th3l3fty posted [p:464688] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> NoN Lelouchpower levels mean absolutely nothing when your opponent's M.O. is to fight you on your level, and Lelouch has enough extra abilities to take out Anti-Spiral from there -- thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -trannyI have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Silencer S 10/22/11 10:36:00 AM #146:	According to other versus topics, Lelouch gets done by speed. Is that the case? Apparently, he has average human reflexes (on the level of someone who has good hand-eye-coordination, but below average endurance and stamina). That would make his reflexes much lower than someone who is Peak Human, and immeasurably lower than someone with superhuman reflexes like Hayabusa, for instance. Not sure how this factors into this match, but unless he has some kind of reflex enhancer (Not according to other VS topics), it puts him at a pretty heavy disadvantage. -- *"Give him a fair trial. Then shoot him."* - Napoleon Bonaparte after the capture of Andreas Hofer <cite>Silencer S posted [p:464689] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> According to other versus topics, Lelouch gets done by speed. Is that the case? Apparently, he has average human reflexes (on the level of someone who has good hand-eye-coordination, but below average endurance and stamina). That would make his reflexes much lower than someone who is Peak Human, and immeasurably lower than someone with superhuman reflexes like Hayabusa, for instance.Not sure how this factors into this match, but unless he has some kind of reflex enhancer (Not according to other VS topics), it puts him at a pretty heavy disadvantage. -- "Give him a fair trial. Then shoot him." - Napoleon Bonaparte after the capture of Andreas Hofer </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 10/22/11 10:36:00 AM #147:	[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster] <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:464690] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> [This message was deleted at the request of the original poster] </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
th3l3fty 10/22/11 10:44:00 AM #148:	I see nothing wrong with Spider-Man getting pounded in that match -- thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -tranny I have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris <cite>th3l3fty posted [p:464691] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> I see nothing wrong with Spider-Man getting pounded in that match -- thelefty for analysis crew 2008 imo -trannyI have a third degree burn in flame-o-nomics -Sir Chris </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pirateking2000 10/22/11 10:47:00 AM #149:	I still don't see how Lelouch even gets to AS without being constantly zerged by Mugann. Lelouch is nowhere near planet buster let alone galaxy buster....everyone keeps arguing eden vital saving Lelouch's ass when he is floating in space so what he can just teleport there whenever the heck he wants without any negative effects? -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama <cite>Pirateking2000 posted [p:464692] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> I still don't see how Lelouch even gets to AS without being constantly zerged by Mugann. Lelouch is nowhere near planet buster let alone galaxy buster....everyone keeps arguing eden vital saving Lelouch's ass when he is floating in space so what he can just teleport there whenever the heck he wants without any negative effects? -- XBL GT: Demon Ninja X2 "There comes a time in every man's or woman's life where they have to make ** up to cover their ass." - Hazama </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KimPilgrim 10/22/11 10:48:00 AM #150:	From: th3l3fty \| #148 I see nothing wrong with Spider-Man getting pounded in that match There were people trying to make serious arguments for Spider-Man there. -- ~LtM http://img.imgcake.com/1309914563818gifpa.gif <cite>KimPilgrim posted [p:464693] in Most Power... [t:60724981]...</cite> <quote> From: th3l3fty \| #148I see nothing wrong with Spider-Man getting pounded in that matchThere were people trying to make serious arguments for Spider-Man there. -- ~LtMhttp://img.imgcake.com/1309914563818gifpa.gif </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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