Board 8 > So, who is getting Star Wars: The Old Republic a week from now?

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TheRock1525
12/13/11 4:06:00 PM
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I'm probably going to go Jedi Knight. Anyone else going to play? We can have a Board 8 guild!

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Aecioo
12/13/11 4:06:00 PM
#2:


beta was entirely underwhelming.

Maybe in a year when everything is polished

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Azp2k32
12/13/11 4:10:00 PM
#3:


Got it pre-ordered; playing Empire PvP w/ some old WoW friends. Either going Assassin or Operative.

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smitelf
12/13/11 4:13:00 PM
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I'm going to play. Wish I'd preordered sooner so I could be playing now :( I'll start off with a Sith Inquisitor.

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AsurasKordoth
12/13/11 4:15:00 PM
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I just got Early Access. Funny thing is I canceled my pre-order after the underwhelming beta. But hey I guess I will play it for a week and see if I get hooked... If not then still, free game for a week.

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Pirateking2000
12/13/11 4:29:00 PM
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Yep I am planning on getting it =P

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Ayuyu
12/13/11 4:32:00 PM
#7:


was the beta that bad? I knew it was bugged out the ass but still.

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Aecioo
12/13/11 4:36:00 PM
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Ayuyu posted...
was the beta that bad? I knew it was bugged out the ass but still.

I mean, it's about the same as WoW was at release. The difference is that WoW was pretty good for a release MMO, but that was years ago. Old Republic suffers from the same bugs and lack of endgame content and etc that WoW suffered, but it's hard to justify those problems being in a game like this because a lot of people are more accustomed to better MMOs now.

that's my theory on it.

like I said, give it 6-12 months and it will be a great game. Just don't think it's worth getting into now.

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Ayuyu
12/13/11 4:37:00 PM
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In 6-12 months GW2 will be out though..

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TroutJefferson
12/13/11 4:41:00 PM
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Ayuyu posted...
In 6-12 months GW2 will be out though..

You could play both!

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Ayuyu
12/13/11 4:45:00 PM
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From: TroutJefferson | #010
Ayuyu posted...
In 6-12 months GW2 will be out though..

You could play both!


Well yes I guess so, especially since GW2 doesn't have a monthly fee but I fear all MMOs will feel terribly sub-par after playing it.

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ShadowHalo17
12/13/11 4:52:00 PM
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Is there going to be a fee? I heard there was, then I heard there won't be, so I don't know.

Either way, I still won't be getting it yet. But if there's no fee, then I may get it when I have money.

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Ayuyu
12/13/11 4:52:00 PM
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From: ShadowHalo17 | #012
Is there going to be a fee? I heard there was, then I heard there won't be, so I don't know.

Either way, I still won't be getting it yet. But if there's no fee, then I may get it when I have money.


SWTOR has a monthly fee yes.

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SuperAngelo128
12/13/11 4:54:00 PM
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my brother is

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Ayuyu
12/13/11 5:22:00 PM
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Apparently there are already people with characters in the high 30's

A MMO in which you can nearly max your character in a day? Lol.

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Jukkie
12/13/11 5:24:00 PM
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From: Ayuyu | #015
Apparently there are already people with characters in the high 30's

A MMO in which you can nearly max your character in a day? Lol.




People are also saying that they pre-ordered in Dec and are in the game today, which is a lie.

So don't believe the forums.

However, I did get to level 25 in the beta in a weekend, and I really didn't play all that much. If you skip the dialog it does go pretty fast.

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Mac Arrowny
12/13/11 5:24:00 PM
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Isn't that a good thing? Part of the point is that it's different from other MMOs and focuses more on story. I mean, if you can beat it in a month you won't even need to pay the monthly fee.

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Ayuyu
12/13/11 5:25:00 PM
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Well apparently the PvP is super easily exploitable atm and people can farm it at insane speed.

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Ayuyu
12/13/11 5:25:00 PM
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From: Mac Arrowny | #017
Isn't that a good thing? Part of the point is that it's different from other MMOs and focuses more on story. I mean, if you can beat it in a month you won't even need to pay the monthly fee.


Well.. no? Because if everybody beats the game in a few days they'll have to shut it down pretty fast !

A mmo needs to keep its players hooked as long as possible.

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Wedge Antilles
12/13/11 5:27:00 PM
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Waiting to get into the early access. Either tomorrow or thursday is my guess.

A lot of my WoW guild has gone over, so I already have a home.

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MarvelousGerbil
12/13/11 5:30:00 PM
#21:


I'm sticking with throwing my money at Blizzard, but we'll see in a few months how it goes.

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Mac Arrowny
12/13/11 5:46:00 PM
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From: Ayuyu | #019
Well.. no? Because if everybody beats the game in a few days they'll have to shut it down pretty fast !

A mmo needs to keep its players hooked as long as possible.


I'd rather play a fun game in the vein of the KotOR series than be addicted to something for years.

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Ayuyu
12/13/11 5:48:00 PM
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Maybe, but that's not what the people who made the game want.

SWTOR cost them upwards of 100M to make, if they make a pitiful profit with it (or no profit at all) they'll be pretty mad.

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smitelf
12/13/11 5:55:00 PM
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From: Ayuyu | #023
Maybe, but that's not what the people who made the game want.

SWTOR cost them upwards of 100M to make, if they make a pitiful profit with it (or no profit at all) they'll be pretty mad.


MMOs are a risky venture. If EA wanted a safe bet, they could have invested in KOTOR 3.

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Aecioo
12/13/11 6:04:00 PM
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You know what other MMO had people beat it in less than a week (and I mean like, clearing all the end game content).

DC Universe Online.

You know what MMO is currently dying as quickly as possible and has went free to play in just a short few months after releasing?

DC Universe Online.

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Ayuyu
12/13/11 6:30:00 PM
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From: Aecioo | #025
You know what other MMO had people beat it in less than a week (and I mean like, clearing all the end game content).

DC Universe Online.

You know what MMO is currently dying as quickly as possible and has went free to play in just a short few months after releasing?

DC Universe Online.


Yeah, and DC comics aren't exactly unpopular ! So even Star Wars isn't immune to that stuff.

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Mac Arrowny
12/13/11 6:37:00 PM
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Who cares if it's going to die? I wouldn't mind TOR dying in half a year if I had a good month of fun with it. Seriously, it's like no one in this topic actually cares about enjoying games.

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TheRock1525
12/13/11 6:37:00 PM
#28:


Yeah, but on the flip side its Star Wars + BioWare, two things acting in its favor.

It won't fail nearly as bad as DC Universe.

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SuperAngelo128
12/13/11 6:40:00 PM
#29:


From: Mac Arrowny | #027
Who cares if it's going to die? I wouldn't mind TOR dying in half a year if I had a good month of fun with it. Seriously, it's like no one in this topic actually cares about enjoying games.


keep in mind Ayuyu has been hating on Star WArs: The Old Republic for a while

and he possibly hasn't played the beta

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xXkewls0358
12/13/11 6:45:00 PM
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ill wait till its a bit more polished, but others are right, by that time GW2 will be out and who will care about any other mmo?
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Ayuyu
12/13/11 6:48:00 PM
#31:


From: TheRock1525 | #028
Yeah, but on the flip side its Star Wars + BioWare, two things acting in its favor.

It won't fail nearly as bad as DC Universe.


Bioware is merely a shell of its former self though.

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HanOfTheNekos
12/13/11 6:50:00 PM
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Yeah, I've got it right now.

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TheRock1525
12/13/11 7:33:00 PM
#33:


Ayuyu posted...
From: TheRock1525 | #028
Yeah, but on the flip side its Star Wars + BioWare, two things acting in its favor.

It won't fail nearly as bad as DC Universe.
Bioware is merely a shell of its former self though.


Opinion.

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TheRock1525
12/14/11 9:42:00 PM
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Pre-ordered the game, hoping for some early access.

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GANON1025
12/15/11 10:23:00 AM
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I might get it, if more people here go it.

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the icon ownz all
12/15/11 10:39:00 AM
#36:


From: TheRock1525 | #028
Yeah, but on the flip side its Star Wars + BioWare, two things acting in its favor.


It's BioWare in the sense that BioWare's name appears on the game. BioWare Austin isn't exactly the acclaimed studio that brought you games like Knights of the Old Republic or Mass Effect 2. In fact, it's the studio that brought you... Star Wars Galaxies.

From: TheRock1525 | #033
Opinion.


He's somewhat correct. I won't get into the quality of their recent games, but in the last couple years, BioWare has grown from the original one studio in Edmonton to six now. They are no longer the small, focused developers making RPGs you love.


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GANON1025
12/15/11 10:41:00 AM
#37:


hey man bioware is busy at work on command and conquer generals 2

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the icon ownz all
12/15/11 10:42:00 AM
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and mass effect facebook (probably!)


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12/15/11 10:42:00 AM
#39:


TheRock1525 posted...
Opinion.

Wasn't DA2 universally panned?

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the icon ownz all
12/15/11 10:43:00 AM
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he liked it


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Ayuyu
12/15/11 10:47:00 AM
#41:


From: Anagram | #039
TheRock1525 posted...
Opinion.

Wasn't DA2 universally panned?


It was.

And now there's this huge ass pvp exploit that means some people already reached end-game (and apparently that one endgame instance is bugged and unbeatable), doesn't mean much for pve servers, but for PvP servers it means that those who benefited from the headstart have a HUGE advantage. Bioware tried hiding the fact for a while by deleting posts about it on the forum but they couldn't do it for too long, now they just said that they'd punish exploiters.

Problem is how can they differentiate exploiters from people who genuinely want to try PvP? (The exploit is that if a PvP game ends prematurely because of lack of players the participants still get massive XP).

They can either, not give a ****, fix the bug and leave the overlevelled players alone, ban everybody who seemed to be exploiting the bug (I did say seemed) or do a rollback.

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Mac Arrowny
12/15/11 10:54:00 AM
#42:


Doesn't TOR have the same writers as kotor? For the story part?

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the icon ownz all
12/15/11 10:59:00 AM
#43:


the lead writer worked on dragon age: origins and the nba street series. another senior writer worked on tie-in comics


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TheRock1525
12/15/11 6:33:00 PM
#44:


He's somewhat correct. I won't get into the quality of their recent games, but in the last couple years, BioWare has grown from the original one studio in Edmonton to six now. They are no longer the small, focused developers making RPGs you love.

Then that's the exact opposite of a shell!

Also, yes, I like DA2 a lot more than DA:O.

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AsurasKordoth
12/15/11 6:41:00 PM
#45:


I'm only at level 18 right now. I wonder if I can get high enough to bang Jaesa Willsaam before I lose access... Which would be like, the 19th at midnight?

Also, I really really dislike how they made the first Flashpoint (Black Talon, Empire side) 2-player, nerfed it considerably, and removed like 75% of the drops. There's really no point in even running it now except to see what it's like.

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TheRock1525
12/15/11 11:45:00 PM
#46:


My copy of the game arrives tomorrow. How cool is that?!

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12/15/11 11:49:00 PM
#47:


Mac Arrowny posted...
Doesn't TOR have the same writers as kotor? For the story part?

I don't think so. KotOR 2 wasn't even made by Bioware.


Not that it matters. TOR retcons so much of the KotOR games.

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BakusaiTenketsu
12/16/11 12:24:00 AM
#48:


I will be playing Early Access tomorrow by the looks of it. I'm one of those people who will have every toon, and possibly 16 total characters for Light Side and Dark Side play throughs too.

I'm joining up with a late night guild on the Master Zhar Lestin server which already has like 30+ members.

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Azp2k32
12/16/11 12:32:00 AM
#49:


AsurasKordoth posted...
Also, I really really dislike how they made the first Flashpoint (Black Talon, Empire side) 2-player, nerfed it considerably, and removed like 75% of the drops. There's really no point in even running it now except to see what it's like.

Was that since it got released? They've been hitting things hard with the nerf stick if they're imba for leveling. First the whole BG queue thing, then that. My friend was mentioning how it was faster to just run Black Talon repeatedly up to 13-14 than questing, at least if you had a semi-decent group.



I should be getting my access either with one of the last waves tomorrow, or first wave Saturday. Going to be playing with some old WoW friends Empire side on The Fatman (PvP). Either going Assassin or Operative; leveling Assassin first then from there I'll see what I like best.

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WellThoughtName
12/16/11 12:04:00 PM
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Already maxed level characters on the EU servers and the game isn't officially launched yet.

The complaints about no end-game won't take long to come I think.

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