From: TsunamiXXVIII | #100 Hmm...I'm not entirely sure I like the way these x-stats shake out. See, one thing I've always found annoying about tournaments that work out exact "placements" using loser-bracket type games is that it can be very inaccurate. Take, for example, the various early-season tournaments that exist in NCAA basketball. We'll use this year's Maui Invitational as an illustrative example.
Day 1: First-round games Duke 77, Tennessee 67 Michigan 73, Memphis 61 Kansas 67, Georgetown 63 UCLA 92, Chaminade 60
Day 2: Winners' bracket: Duke 82, Michigan 75 Kansas 76, UCLA 56
They allegedly have a defined 1-8 order, but aside from the champion and the last-place finisher, nothing is really terribly defined. The third-place game winner lost their match to the champion, not the runner-up, so either one could easily be the true #2, and UCLA, which had the good fortune to draw the host team (who comes from a lower division and almost always finishes in 8th place) in the first round, goes 1-2 with both losses by large margins and finishes "4th", while Georgetown is 2-1 and is "5th". Madness. But let's look at the flipside, this year's Paradise Jam.
Opening rounds: Norfolk State 61, Drexel 56 TCU 57, Virginia 55 Mississippi 63, Drake 59 Marquette 95, Winthrop 73
It's still not perfect because the seventh-place finisher lost to the fifth-place finisher, not the sixth-place finisher, and the second-place finisher beat the fourth-place finisher, not the third-place finisher, but...TCU, which came in fourth, got their lone win against Virginia, who came in fifth. So at the very least, the "1-2 for fourth place, 2-1 for fifth" problem is a non-issue. Which brings us back to why I object to these X-Stats...
1. Link vs. Ganondorf – 50.00% 2. Mario vs. Bowser – 42.28% 3. Cloud Strife vs. Sephiroth – 41.74% 4. Pokemon Trainer Red vs. Pokemon Trainer Blue – 37.51%
Now, I know that in the x-stats, the runner-up isn't always even in second place, but in this contest, the final was the closest match that the champion had...and the winner of the third-place match was defeated by the loser of the championship match, so the 1-2-3-4 order should be somewhat concrete. I know, the very presence of a "third-place match" wrecks the idea of X-stats, because they're based on the idea that matches should be transitive even though they aren't, but the idea that the Pokémon Trainers could finish behind Cloud and Sephiroth in the X-stats despite having a direct head-to-head win seems ridiculous.
...WHAT THE F***
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About half thought the match would be fairly close. No one expected PoR to win by as much as it did.
Dayumn. Really wish I'd been playing the Oracle back then; would've probably been an easy top 5 for me since there's no way I would've gone over 81%. Not sure if I would've gotten the win; though--to get closer than Jonaleon, I'd have had to have gone below 74.54%, and I probably would've gone over 75!
...Seriously how did you guys screw that one up so badly.
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From: LeonhartFour | #091 Pokemon/Metroid Castlevania/Kingdom Hearts Castlevania/Halo Street Fighter/Resident Evil Super Mario Bros./Final Fantasy The Legend of Zelda/Final Fantasy
Six quality matches out of 31
About twice as many as the Rivalry Rumble had.
Only see 3 "quality" matches there. The others are kinda unexpected stats-wise but still fall in line with general expectation (Rivalry Rumble has a lot of those too!)
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From: Xcarvenger | #108 Only see 3 "quality" matches there. The others are kinda unexpected stats-wise but still fall in line with general expectation (Rivalry Rumble has a lot of those too!)
If that's your qualification for "quality," then so be it, but that wasn't what I was going for, personally.
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Well, you're counting these type of matches as quality for the series contest, but not for Rivalry Rumble! I'm just saying RR also has many matches similar to that.
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From: Xcarvenger | #110 Well, you're counting these type of matches as quality for the series contest, but not for Rivalry Rumble! I'm just saying RR also has many matches similar to that.
Liiiiiiiiiiiiiike?
We literally had, what, 4 matches that finished within 55/45? And one of those wasn't even an official match!
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Well, in RR most of the "quality" matches ended up as blowout instead of close matches. You should have said "close" matches instead of "quality" matches then!
From: LeonhartFour | #112 Also, I never said what Rivalry Rumble matches I considered "quality" to begin with!
Let me guess: Sora/Riku vs Dante/Vergil, Sora/Riku vs Squall/Seifer, Pokemon/FF7?
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From: Xcarvenger | #113 Well, in RR most of the "quality" matches ended up as blowout instead of close matches. You should have said "close" matches instead of "quality" matches then!
Well, Castlevania/Halo wasn't a close match, per se, but it was an unexpected result (not the same thing as an unexpected percentage. If we want to go that route, Series Contest can beat that, too). Neither was MM/MK, but it had other sorts of implications involved. Rivalry Rumble had virtually nothing exciting about the vast majority of its matches, unless "Whoa this was even less close than we had anticipated!" counts as quality or exciting.
But I'll concede and even give you Frog/GLaDOS along with those others. You can even have X/Zero vs. Sub-Zero/Scorpion! However, there was very little debate about most of these matches, pre-or-mid-contest. Very little excitement. Not much of anything. We weren't even getting excited about the matches while they were happening. The vote totals sucking worse than anything ever has also detracts from the quality of the contest.
But if we want to include a highly debated match as a quality match, then we can include Phoenix/Gordon.
The main problem with the Rivalry Rumble is that we had 63 matches worth of suck as opposed to 31 for the Villains and Series. At least those bad contests had the decency to be over quickly.
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From: LeonhartFour | #114 Well, Castlevania/Halo wasn't a close match, per se, but it was an unexpected result (not the same thing as an unexpected percentage. If we want to go that route, Series Contest can beat that, too). Neither was MM/MK, but it had other sorts of implications involved. Rivalry Rumble had virtually nothing exciting about the vast majority of its matches, unless "Whoa this was even less close than we had anticipated!" counts as quality or exciting.
But I'll concede and even give you Frog/GLaDOS along with those others. You can even have X/Zero vs. Sub-Zero/Scorpion! However, there was very little debate about most of these matches, pre-or-mid-contest. Very little excitement. Not much of anything. We weren't even getting excited about the matches while they were happening. The vote totals sucking worse than anything ever has also detracts from the quality of the contest.
But if we want to include a highly debated match as a quality match, then we can include Phoenix/Gordon.
The main problem with the Rivalry Rumble is that we had 63 matches worth of suck as opposed to 31 for the Villains and Series. At least those bad contests had the decency to be over quickly.
Wouldn't the Rivalry Rumble be the same length as villains? Due to the round 1 matches being half-days?
Edit: Wait, ignore what I just said
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From: -LusterSoldier- | #118 Yuck, wasn't expecting a huge blowout from the 4th option in this poll.
You were expecting most people to be alone on Christmas?
S***, just seeing that 13% in the last option depresses the hell out of me. Christmas can really make you feel lonely if you don't have anyone to share it with.
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Note that the first poll option also includes "portable system" in the wording of the option. I assume most people are voting for that option because they got a 3DS.
Also, the votals are very terrible in this poll right now. It's just barely ahead of the iPhone GotY poll near the beginning of this year. I'll blame the terrible votals on people not voting because they don't know what they are getting for Christmas yet. In the morning, the votals should pick up quite a bit.
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As I pointed out earlier, votals today are bad because there aren't very many online users at the start of the poll (it even struggled to break 4000 yesterday) and many people may be holding off their vote for now until they know for sure what they got for Christmas. I expect the votals to pick up during the morning and day. I don't see any chance that this poll doesn't break 30000 votes.
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As I would have expected, the votals today definitely improved once the morning vote arrived. By the half-way point in this poll, it looked like the poll would be able to reach 38000 votes after only being projected for about 30000 votes based on the total votes at the end of the first hour.
Though it looks like this poll will break 40000 votes. If that happens, this poll would be a rare situation in which we had less than half of our total votes at the half-way point in the poll, which normally shouldn't happen on a weekend poll. I guess it shows that a lot of people were holding off their vote until they knew what they got for Christmas.
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Took until vote 70 for "Yes, I just got a new 3DS for Christmas" to get its first vote. Looking at the early results, I'm surprised that more people didn't get a 3DS for Christmas.
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From: -LusterSoldier- | #133 Took until vote 70 for "Yes, I just got a new 3DS for Christmas" to get its first vote. Looking at the early results, I'm surprised that more people didn't get a 3DS for Christmas.
The poll just started.
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I know the poll just started. Since the board vote ended, "Yes, I just got a new 3DS for Christmas" has managed to jump about 1.5%, while the last poll option has dropped 3%. Looks like the early voters still like to anti-vote the 3DS.
But still, 35% ownership is quite good after being out for only 9 months and could possibly break 50% ownership by the end of next year.
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Always think it's strange to force people to say either "next year" or "never" - he should scrap the DS/DSi/XL option and add "No, but I might eventually".
I'm one of the 7% or so who've just got one for Christmas. Woot.
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Kotetsu534 | Posted 12/26/2011 1:43:49 AM | message detail | quote Always think it's strange to force people to say either "next year" or "never" - he should scrap the DS/DSi/XL option and add "No, but I might eventually".
I think it would be better to replace "No, but I might pick one up next year" with "No, but I might eventually".
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I don't understand why so many people buy Wii.Sure it has Mario and Link but that is about it.
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Most of the Wii's ownership was established in the first 2 years of the Wii's life cycle. The Wii has gained very little ownership after the end of 2008, and that's mostly because the site hasn't cared about the Wii since 2009. Then you have the Wii U coming out next year as well.
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So most bought it at the first 2 years?I guess it makes sense.But still...Mario,Link,Smash is all that it needs apparently.
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