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ExThaNemesis 02/19/12 1:33:00 PM #1: |
I am curious about this, because it seems rather simple to me.
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Mershaaay 02/19/12 1:34:00 PM #2: |
Watch the movie 'The Gods Must Be Crazy' and you'll understand rather quickly in one scene
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ExThaNemesis 02/19/12 1:35:00 PM #3: |
Can you find the scene on youtube and show it to me?
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JDTAY 02/19/12 1:35:00 PM #4: |
I hear it's hard-wired into our brains and has to do with the golden ratio.
I could be wrong though. -- PSN: JDTAY87 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wg64Z 02/19/12 1:35:00 PM #5: |
Their own ugliness.
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ExThaNemesis 02/19/12 1:38:00 PM #6: |
From: wg64Z | #005 Here's one answer. wg lives in truth fact city apparently -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg "What about the lion from Lion King?" - SuperNiceDog ... Copied to Clipboard!
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saveus_Maria 02/19/12 1:41:00 PM #9: |
people have different opinions
this includes different opinions on what they find attractive mind-blowing stuff here -- Otani-san. . . Otani-san. . . http://i.imgur.com/mW6Kx.jpg http://i.imgur.com/5J81m.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Zea_ 02/19/12 1:42:00 PM #10: |
Because people find different things beautiful? Seems pretty simple to me.
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Mershaaay 02/19/12 1:43:00 PM #11: |
ExThaNemesis posted...
Can you find the scene on youtube and show it to me? 55:30 in -- SephirothG, channeling awesomeness from Mershiness. The Resurrection ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ExThaNemesis 02/19/12 1:43:00 PM #12: |
From: saveus_Maria | #010 yeah but there are some base level things that determine attractiveness. like I prefer red heads over blondes, that is an opinion. But I will prefer a red head with a 0.7 hip to waist ratio versus a red head with a worse hip to waist ratio, and other such objective beauty merits. -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg "What about the lion from Lion King?" - SuperNiceDog ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VincentLauw 02/19/12 1:45:00 PM #13: |
So you are saying some aspects of beauty are objective but others are not
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ExThaNemesis 02/19/12 1:48:00 PM #14: |
From: VincentLauw | #013 I'm saying preferring red heads over blondes doesn't have anything to do with beauty, at least not nearly as much as hip to waist ratio, BMI, facial symmetry, complexion, etc. -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg "What about the lion from Lion King?" - SuperNiceDog ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tereziWright 02/19/12 1:51:00 PM #15: |
ExThaNemesis posted...
From: saveus_Maria | #010 people have different opinions this includes different opinions on what they find attractive mind-blowing stuff here yeah but there are some base level things that determine attractiveness. like I prefer red heads over blondes, that is an opinion. But I will prefer a red head with a 0.7 hip to waist ratio versus a red head with a worse hip to waist ratio, and other such objective beauty merits. ExTha you're one of B8's poster boys, you're above this MWC bull****. -- http://img.imgcake.com/1327084525516jpgra.jpg http://img.imgcake.com/1326165368699gifme.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ExThaNemesis 02/19/12 1:53:00 PM #16: |
From: tereziWright | #015 this is more realo stuff. I don't think I've seen MWC talk about stuff like this. He usually sticks with sports and kingdom hearts. Also you guys made me a poster boy. Wasn't my decision. -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg "What about the lion from Lion King?" - SuperNiceDog ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pjbasis 02/19/12 1:54:00 PM #17: |
There is objectivity only because most normal human brains find those things attractive, therefore if your brain was not wired the same way, it would be possible to find completely different things attractive.
And then there's conditioning, which is based on your environment and experiences affecting you rather than your genetics; this too can change what you find attractive. -- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/pjbasis.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ExThaNemesis 02/19/12 1:54:00 PM #18: |
Anyway this spawns from me seeing like four or five things posted by people on facebook about how the media is evil in their portrayal of what a good body image is.
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Mr Lasastryke 02/19/12 1:56:00 PM #19: |
I'm saying preferring red heads over blondes doesn't have anything to do with beauty, at least not nearly as much as hip to waist ratio, BMI, facial symmetry, complexion, etc.
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OmarsComin 02/19/12 1:56:00 PM #20: |
some researchers recently were like "white dudes like asian chicks and white gals like black guys" and some other stuff. supposedly your genetic makeup will prefer certain body types/facial structures over others and it's quite different across various races. someone posted that somewhere (maybe here?) recently.
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the icon ownz all 02/19/12 1:57:00 PM #21: |
where all da asians at
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ExThaNemesis 02/19/12 1:58:00 PM #22: |
From: Mr Lasastryke | #019 But not nearly as much as the other things I listed. I'm not going to find an overweight red head more beautiful than a perfectly proportioned blonde, for instance. Because that stuff is objective. -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg "What about the lion from Lion King?" - SuperNiceDog ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ExThaNemesis 02/19/12 1:58:00 PM #23: |
From: the icon ownz all | #021 get out -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg "What about the lion from Lion King?" - SuperNiceDog ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr Lasastryke 02/19/12 2:00:00 PM #24: |
There are people who think overweight girls are more attractive than skinny girls.
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OmarsComin 02/19/12 2:01:00 PM #25: |
There are people who think overweight girls are more attractive than skinny girls.
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VincentLauw 02/19/12 2:02:00 PM #27: |
I think people here are confusing 'objective' with 'socially accepted'
Just because in general people like guys/girls with a certain type of length, weight, ... more than others does not mean it is objectively better. That's like saying french toast is objectively worse than waffles just because the latter is more popular. IT'S WRONG -- http://img.imgcake.com/wappydoggif2gifzy.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AdditionalPylon 02/19/12 2:03:00 PM #28: |
Some people/body types are definitely more widely considered attractive, but there's no real hard-and-fast rule.
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ExThaNemesis 02/19/12 2:03:00 PM #29: |
From: Mr Lasastryke | #024 They're quite few and far between though, in the grand scheme of things. For example: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/18/magazine/18fob-Bergner-t.html Even blind men prefer slim body shaped women! -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg "What about the lion from Lion King?" - SuperNiceDog ... Copied to Clipboard!
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saveus_Maria 02/19/12 2:03:00 PM #30: |
From: Mr Lasastryke | #024 not only is this true but due to the change of perception from various cultures/time periods I'm willing to bet there was a time when it was normal to be more attracted to larger girls rather than skinny ones. so yeah, ExTha is talking out of his ass -- Otani-san. . . Otani-san. . . http://i.imgur.com/mW6Kx.jpg http://i.imgur.com/5J81m.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ExThaNemesis 02/19/12 2:03:00 PM #31: |
From: VincentLauw | #027 are we going to do this in here are we really -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg "What about the lion from Lion King?" - SuperNiceDog ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VincentLauw 02/19/12 2:04:00 PM #32: |
From: ExThaNemesis | #031 there is a time and place for everything except for breakfast food, that can be discussed anytime, anywhere. -- http://i940.photobucket.com/albums/ad250/baasaysthelamb/gifs%20and%20reaction%20imgs/jonhammhypnotize_gif.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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the icon ownz all 02/19/12 2:05:00 PM #33: |
From: ExThaNemesis | #012 this is not objectivity, btw. it's an epistemological subjective truth. you may be using objective measures to determine that subjective truth, but you should not confuse the two -- Love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And well change the world. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ExThaNemesis 02/19/12 2:05:00 PM #34: |
Waffles are the 0.7 hip to waist ratio'd member of the breakfast food family Vincent.
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VincentLauw 02/19/12 2:06:00 PM #35: |
From: the icon ownz all | #033 ding ding ding From: ExThaNemesis | #034 People are WRONG -- http://i.imgur.com/8DTIg.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ExThaNemesis 02/19/12 2:11:00 PM #36: |
From: VincentLauw | #035 normal =/= wrong vincent it might be okay to enjoy french toast every once in a while but you should only tell your friends about it when you're taking one for the team so your buddy can enjoy the last waffle out of the box or something comparing breakfast foods to women is the best thing I've done today. -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg "What about the lion from Lion King?" - SuperNiceDog ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dethfdddddh 02/19/12 2:11:00 PM #37: |
They're usually social constructionists who think that society plays a role in determining sexual preferences.
To support their opinions, they would likely point to Greek pederasty/Turkish dancing boys and argue that such homoeroticism is now taboo in modern Western society. There's also the classic "fat girls were preferred in the past" argument, but I think that's been debunked. -- Fast Falcon ate my bracket for dinner in the guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Mana Sword 02/19/12 2:13:00 PM #38: |
ExThaNemesis posted...
From: VincentLauw | #035 People are WRONG normal =/= wrong vincent it might be okay to enjoy french toast every once in a while but you should only tell your friends about it when you're taking one for the team so your buddy can enjoy the last waffle out of the box or something comparing breakfast foods to women is the best thing I've done today. story of your life -- I'm no longer a Nadal supporter. Andy Murray is my new favorite player/person. -Princess Anri ... Copied to Clipboard!
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neonreap 02/19/12 2:13:00 PM #39: |
ExThaNemesis posted...
From: saveus_Maria | #010 people have different opinions this includes different opinions on what they find attractive mind-blowing stuff here yeah but there are some base level things that determine attractiveness. like I prefer red heads over blondes, that is an opinion. But I will prefer a red head with a 0.7 hip to waist ratio versus a red head with a worse hip to waist ratio, and other such objective beauty merits. Sure, there are some standards for each culture for ratios and such, and it varies from group to group, but that's not really all there is to beauty. Red hair vs blonde is absolutely part of it. -- where is mankriks wife ... Copied to Clipboard!
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edwardsdv 02/19/12 2:14:00 PM #40: |
Lets put it this way, there are dude who like flat chested women who are thin as a rail.
But there are other people who like curves, and other people who like big bottoms and dont really care about breasts. Some people cant find themselves attracted to asian women while others find them fantastic. Then you have like fetishes and such that disgust some people, and give people like Mac Arrowny their jollies. To put it another way, if perfectly proportioned blondes were the be all end all of attractiveness, wouldnt the majority of women by this point be evolutionarily skewed towards perfectly proportioned blondes? -- http://img.imgcake.com/nio/81edpngej.png edwardsdv and swordz9 are basically the comedy heel tag team of this topic, why would people be taking them seriously? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ExThaNemesis 02/19/12 2:15:00 PM #41: |
From: Lightning Strikes | #039 I'm not really concerned with being right, so much as annoyed with this mentality that the media (and men) are evil and wrong for liking a certain body type for women. -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg "What about the lion from Lion King?" - SuperNiceDog ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Psycho_Kenshin 02/19/12 2:15:00 PM #42: |
Like people have said, it's pretty self explanatory and obvious that beauty is subjective. One person's beauty is ugly to somebody else, and vice versa.
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Lightning Strikes 02/19/12 2:16:00 PM #43: |
Just for the record, only Waist:Hip ratio and symmetry have been shown to be a universal preference. The rest are believed to be cultural.
But you know what pisses me off? When people try to make everything objective just so they can say that they're right. And not just for this, this goes for everything, and is found pretty much all over the internet. GameFAQs in particular seems especially bad. How insecure do you have to be. -- Something something something ^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig ... Copied to Clipboard!
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saveus_Maria 02/19/12 2:16:00 PM #44: |
in summation lmao this topic
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ExThaNemesis 02/19/12 2:17:00 PM #45: |
From: saveus_Maria | #044 thank you for your always insightful contributions lisel -- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/ExTha/10and14.jpg "What about the lion from Lion King?" - SuperNiceDog ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GenesisSaga 02/19/12 2:17:00 PM #46: |
Because different people will always find different traits attractive?
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dethfdddddh 02/19/12 2:18:00 PM #47: |
ExThaNemesis posted...
From: Lightning Strikes | #039 But you know what pisses me off? When people try to make everything objective just so they can say that they're right. And not just in this this goes for everything, and is found pretty much all over the internet. GameFAQs in particular seems especially bad. I'm not really concerned with being right, so much as annoyed with this mentality that the media (and men) are evil and wrong for liking a certain body type for women. When that body type is an unhealthy ideal for most women to pursue and contributes to the development of eating disorders, then there might be a problem. -- Fast Falcon ate my bracket for dinner in the guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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the icon ownz all 02/19/12 2:18:00 PM #48: |
From: ExThaNemesis | #042 and so your response to this is to push for the objectivity of aesthetics and have the merits of such coincide with what you believe to be beauty, leaving others who do not believe as you do to be wrong? good plan -- ICON: I'm pretty serious about chocobos. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr Lasastryke 02/19/12 2:19:00 PM #49: |
so much as annoyed with this mentality that the media (and men) are evil and wrong for liking a certain body type for women.
That's a far cry from how this topic started. It would've been better if you called the topic "I'm annoyed by the mentality that the media (and men) are evil and wrong for liking a certain body type for women." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rad Link 5 02/19/12 2:19:00 PM #50: |
The hip-waist ratio thing is only nearly universal, isn't it? Because I've met people who definitely have a preference for more or less than 0.7.
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