Board 8 > What if in reality there is a God and they said being gay is wrong

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crazyisgood
02/23/12 1:32:00 PM
#1:


I don't know if this is true or not but I actually want to hear peoples opinion on this question.

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KingButz
02/23/12 1:33:00 PM
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who are they?

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crazyisgood
02/23/12 1:35:00 PM
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used they to not say he or she

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JeffreyRaze
02/23/12 1:35:00 PM
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Define God. Do you mean an omnipotent/omniscient one? Is there an afterlife, and what conditions are on it? How do we know this God said it was wrong?

I'm not trying to be a dick, but my answer varies greatly depending on the answer to these.

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foolm0ron
02/23/12 1:37:00 PM
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I think he means the typical Abrahamic God who is omniscient in everything and such

Then duh, people wouldn't be allowed to be gay and we would probably kill them or something

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colliding
02/23/12 1:37:00 PM
#6:


then God is wrong
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crazyisgood
02/23/12 1:37:00 PM
#7:


Yes. Whatever conditions God puts on it? We don't till we die and stand Before God.

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Sceptilesolarbeam
02/23/12 1:38:00 PM
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what if we're hallucinating the entirety of reality and none of it actually exists, we're just consciousnesses floating through an infinite void of nothing

It's no less likely, and no more worth discussing.

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Falcon120
02/23/12 1:38:00 PM
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Then I'd punch God in the face and tell them to shut the **** up.

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Dark Young Link
02/23/12 1:40:00 PM
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I'd be sad, because while I'm not gay I can't approve of someone claiming homosexuality is wrong.

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JeffreyRaze
02/23/12 1:41:00 PM
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If there exists an omnipotent and omniscient god, morality is absolute and decided at the creation of reality. Free will becomes an impossibility. If such a god said that something is wrong, then it is wrong absolutely. Because defying such a god, besides being impossible, is the worst idea conceivable. And if that god has a hell? Defying it could spell infinitely greater harm befalling you than is otherwise possible. Such a god would be the greatest monster of all time.

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Dark Young Link
02/23/12 1:41:00 PM
#12:


Sceptilesolarbeam posted...
what if we're hallucinating the entirety of reality and none of it actually exists, we're just consciousnesses floating through an infinite void of nothing

It's no less likely, and no more worth discussing.


Why have a brain if you don't use it to think outside the ordinary? This actually IS worth discussing, as it forces religious people to not only think about what their religion means, but what they feel is morally correct and what happens if those two clash.

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JeffreyRaze
02/23/12 1:44:00 PM
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Clarifying a bit...

If a god is omniscient, then when it creates the universe it knows precisely what each and every living being will do. If it is omnipotent, it must have decided on this specific fate. Which means he created many a soul specifically in such a way that they'd be condemned to suffer eternally.

Condemning people to eternal torture is undeniably the most evil act possible.

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RevolverSaro
02/23/12 1:45:00 PM
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Why do people assume that if God were to reveal himself, everyone would instantly worship it.

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ChichiriMuyo
02/23/12 1:46:00 PM
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My opinion is that if a capricious creator exists and creates people to fail his standards so that they end up tormented eternally he's not worth spending an eternity with.

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Cloud and Squall
02/23/12 1:46:00 PM
#16:


What if in reality, there is a god, and they said that they don't care about people's sexual orientation?

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edwardsdv
02/23/12 1:46:00 PM
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If God didnt want us to be gay, why did he make gay people?

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HeroDelTiempo17
02/23/12 1:46:00 PM
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Pretty sure if one day any God came out of nowhere and said "sup, this is what to believe" and there was no room for doubt that it was actually God, society would collapse in on itself and we'd have bigger problems than gay marriage.

I.e. millions of people would probably die and the world would be converted into a massive theocracy with no free will literally ruled over by God.

But I guess that is not the point of the topic at all. <_<

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crazyisgood
02/23/12 1:50:00 PM
#19:


Cloud and Squall posted...
What if in reality, there is a god, and they said that they don't care about people's sexual orientation?

Than there is a God that did that.

I ask this question I asked not because I actually care what people do and who they decide they want to love and bed. because last I checked I was not put on this earth to judge anyone and for my sins whatever they will all be by the time I die I will be judged for if God is out there.

I say let the gays marry. my thing with this question is to ask you to look at it from a different side.

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SlymDayspring
02/23/12 1:51:00 PM
#20:


If he is real, I don't really care what god thinks. If he is all powerful, there isn't anything I can do about it, so whatever.

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crazyisgood
02/23/12 1:52:00 PM
#21:


edwardsdv posted...
If God didnt want us to be gay, why did he make gay people?

If we weren't supposed to kill each other why are there killers?

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DeathChicken
02/23/12 1:52:00 PM
#22:


Find another god

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Paratroopa1
02/23/12 2:32:00 PM
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If a dude I was reasonably certain was God just sort of showed up in front of me and told me being gay is wrong, his motives are still unknowable, so I guess I'd just stand up for myself and either pass his test or go to hell and hang out with Satan and all the cool dudes there. Why did I answer this question seriously?
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Leebo86
02/23/12 2:36:00 PM
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crazy thinks being gay is a choice

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firefdr
02/23/12 2:46:00 PM
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From: crazyisgood | Posted: 2/23/2012 10:52:07 PM | #021
If we weren't supposed to kill each other why are there killers?


exactly, good, you get the point
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JDTAY
02/23/12 2:48:00 PM
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God is pretty gay, IMO.

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KingButz
02/23/12 3:06:00 PM
#28:


Are we talking about being homosexual, or engaging in homosexual activities? If God said that being homosexual was wrong, then there's not much that can be done. You can't consciously stop being gay, so this wouldn't matter. If he said that homosexual activities were wrong, then people could stop doing that if they wanted.

I think that is a important distinction to make before I can discuss this any further.

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metroid13
02/23/12 3:06:00 PM
#29:


From: JDTAY | #027
God is pretty gay, IMO.


Shine on, you crazy diamond.

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paperwarior
02/23/12 3:08:00 PM
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Pretty sure the Judeo-Christian God doesn't show up until the Apocalypse. ...Which on the other hand, could happen at any time.

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crazyisgood
02/23/12 4:05:00 PM
#31:


firefdr posted...
From: crazyisgood | Posted: 2/23/2012 10:52:07 PM | #021
If we weren't supposed to kill each other why are there killers?
exactly, good, you get the point


actually I am not sure where I stand on this anymore. I know I used to believe it was a choice, but there was one question asked I could not answer. Do you choose who you fall in love with?

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Master Epyon
02/23/12 4:09:00 PM
#32:


I'd wonder why the hell God can't just eliminate LGBT people from the world entirely to save everyone a headache and then ROW ROW FIGHT DA POWER against him for being a tyrannical idiot.

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MarvelousGerbil
02/23/12 4:11:00 PM
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Then God is an ass who made creatures that he wanted to hate and I wouldn't want to worship such a god anyway.

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masterplum
02/23/12 4:16:00 PM
#34:


From: Falcon120 | #009
Then I'd punch God in the face and tell them to shut the **** up.




Its statements like this that really sadden me.

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Leebo86
02/23/12 4:16:00 PM
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From: masterplum | #034
Its statements like this that really sadden me.


lol, why

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crazyisgood
02/23/12 4:16:00 PM
#36:


MarvelousGerbil posted...
Then God is an ass who made creatures that he wanted to hate and I wouldn't want to worship such a god anyway.

God dislikes sin not the sinner.

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Leebo86
02/23/12 4:17:00 PM
#37:


crazy continuing to say being gay is a choice

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MarvelousGerbil
02/23/12 4:19:00 PM
#38:


Still seems pretty unfair to create people that either have the options of not seeking love of a partner you're attracted to or don't ever have sex.

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Wanglicious
02/23/12 4:21:00 PM
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....so satan was right?

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Master Epyon
02/23/12 4:28:00 PM
#40:


crazy continuing to say being gay is a choice

Funny enough, it shouldn't even matter if it is a choice or not. Let's assume that it is a choice for a moment - that wouldn't even mean that it's wrong in any way.

Nevertheless, crap like "love the sinner hate the sin" is total bollocks.

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Master Epyon
02/23/12 4:29:00 PM
#41:


....so satan was right?

Satan's killed less people than God, so he's both logically and morally right when it comes to things it seems!

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crazyisgood
02/23/12 4:29:00 PM
#42:


MarvelousGerbil posted...
Still seems pretty unfair to create people that either have the options of not seeking love of a partner you're attracted to or don't ever have sex.



Who said life is fair? I honestly don't know what to say to this

and how am i saying being gay is a choice

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KingButz
02/23/12 4:31:00 PM
#43:


From: Master Epyon | #040
Nevertheless, crap like "love the sinner hate the sin" is total bollocks.


Why is it? Playing devil's advocate(or I guess God's advocate), if homosexual relations are sinful, should that be a reason to hate gay people?

Actually, I'm not sure what you mean by this.

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Master Epyon
02/23/12 4:33:00 PM
#44:


Why is it? Playing devil's advocate(or I guess God's advocate), if homosexual relations are sinful, should that be a reason to hate gay people?

Actually, I'm not sure what you mean by that.


What if the 'sinner' is in this case completely morally messed up? I don't have to love someone like that. It's fairly bad logic and just another way to treat a minority as 2nd-class citizens.

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Leebo86
02/23/12 4:33:00 PM
#45:


From: crazyisgood | #042
and how am i saying being gay is a choice


The killer analogy and saying "hate the sin" suggest that it's just something good (not gay) people choose to do and go against god.

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KingButz
02/23/12 4:37:00 PM
#46:


From: KingButz | #028
Are we talking about being homosexual, or engaging in homosexual activities? If God said that being homosexual was wrong, then there's not much that can be done. You can't consciously stop being gay, so this wouldn't matter. If he said that homosexual activities were wrong, then people could stop doing that if they wanted.

I think that is a important distinction to make before I can discuss this any further.


crazyisgood I am waiting for you to define this, please. It is very important to the purposes of this debate that you clarify here.

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Wanglicious
02/23/12 4:37:00 PM
#47:


i mean seriously the underlying point of satan there and being evil is that he basically goes 'god is a douche'. he wouldn't be able to be evil with the apple of knowledge if god hadn't created it in the first place. you can say that he's jealous of humanity having free will yet angels not, but that makes you wonder why in that case god didn't just throw 'em a bone too. and he apparently thinks god doesn't know everything, isnt' all powerful, and can be kinda dumb at times (see: the apple). hell he actually goes this a step further with Job, who literally had a good life destroyed by god to win a bet. satan didn't do anything, god just figured that the guy loved him so much that he could kill his family, burn his house down, and turn him into a disease ridden hobo and it'd be alright.

so overall his point basically comes down to 'why are you making things that you should know will only backfire on you, and why are you such a self-centered douche?' the entire basis of satan being evil is that god is good, so once you start questioning the latter, well.....

you get stuff like the SMT series.

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Leebo86
02/23/12 4:38:00 PM
#48:


From: KingButz | #046
crazyisgood I am waiting for you to define this, please. It is very important to the purposes of this debate that you clarify here.


"being gay" is pretty clear, isn't it? it's the state of being attracted to the same sex, not the act of participating in sex with the same sex.

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ExThaNemesis
02/23/12 4:38:00 PM
#49:


From: SlymDayspring | #020
If he is real, I don't really care what god thinks. If he is all powerful, there isn't anything I can do about it, so whatever.


this

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masterplum
02/23/12 4:38:00 PM
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From: Leebo86 | #035
lol, why


Its an incredibly close minded opinion to a rather important question. You can tell he is both belligerent and completely unwilling to think about the decision.

I have zero problem with people who question a potential God and his stance on the issue, but people who completely blow off the issue in a close-minded and somewhat offensive manner I have a problem with.

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