Board 8 > Mass Effect topic - An end, once and for all.

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LeonhartFour
03/21/12 9:08:00 PM
#301:


Ha, nice POTD.

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GaryOak151
03/21/12 9:11:00 PM
#302:


the results make me lol

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PartOfYourWorld
03/21/12 9:14:00 PM
#303:


Poll should have incorporated whether or not voters have played the game.

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PartOfYourWorld
03/21/12 9:15:00 PM
#304:


Anyway, fellow ME fans, now that we've all experienced the trilogy, where do YOU rank Mass Effect among your all-time favorite series?

1. Zelda
2. Resident Evil
3. Mass Effect

Even with the ending, Shep has knocked Mario out of my top three.

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Murphiroth
03/21/12 9:18:00 PM
#305:


1. Zelda
2. Ogre Battle
3. Mass Effect

Knocked DKC down to #4.

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LeonhartFour
03/21/12 9:18:00 PM
#306:


I dunno where I'd rank ME series-wise. Not above FF, MGS, or Mario for sure, though.

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RayDyn
03/21/12 9:19:00 PM
#307:


Personally, I'm of the opinion that they shouldn't necessarily change the ending, just add to it.

And to answer your question Yo, it's definitely up there, but I couldn't tell you exactly where.

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futuresuperstar
03/21/12 9:23:00 PM
#308:


As a series, it's probably top 5 or 6. As individual games, Mass Effect 2 and 3 probably go somewhere in the teens or twenties. I never got to play Mass Effect 1.

Metal Gear is still #1 series, of course. Final Fantasy is definitely above it--though I haven't played any of the titles after X-2. FF7, 8, 9, and 10 are all in my top 15 games.

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Sorozone
03/21/12 9:42:00 PM
#309:


Zelda
Mass Effect
Resident Evil

In that order.

PotD is great too, I find it amazing that over 50% would at least consider the changing the ending if it's for the better good. Says a lot about how bad the ending is, and how much publicity this whole fiasco is getting.

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ShadowHalo17
03/21/12 9:42:00 PM
#310:


Mark Meer really did all those additional voices? I had no idea. That's awesome.

As for my rankings I'm not sure. Metal Gear Solid is still the greatest series of all time. Mass Effect is definitely up there though. Definitely top 5, if not top 3.

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TheRock1525
03/21/12 9:44:00 PM
#311:


1. Sonic
2. Final Fantasy
3. Assassin's Creed
4. Halo
5. Mass Effect

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ShadowHalo17
03/21/12 9:45:00 PM
#312:


From: Sorozone | #309
PotD is great too, I find it amazing that over 50% would at least consider the changing the ending if it's for the better good. Says a lot about how bad the ending is, and how much publicity this whole fiasco is getting.


I'm not sure what to choose, honestly. Of course I definitely wanted a better ending, and I think after Bioware has spent so much time listening and giving the fans what they want then maybe they should continue to do so. Just to remain in good faith, I guess. At the same time, it is their story. But then again, they did promise us wayyyyyyyyyy more than what we got. So at the very least they owe us something to make up for the lie.

Honestly I don't care. As we previously talked about, no matter what they do it's still not going to wash away the original impact this crappy ass ending had.

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ZFS
03/21/12 9:46:00 PM
#313:


Top 5 is something like...

Uncharted
Metal Gear Solid
Final Fantasy
Street Fighter
Mass Effect

Haven't finished ME3 yet, though.

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LeonhartFour
03/21/12 9:54:00 PM
#314:


I'd like some sort of addendum that clarifies and explains some things, but I don't think I'd want it completely retconned or anything.

Unless they had something planned from the beginning and they're just trolling us.

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HeroDelTiempo17
03/21/12 9:58:00 PM
#315:


A rewrite that made things make sense would be fine with me but that's even more unlikely because that would be Bioware having to admit that their ending is badly written. And that's not going to happen since they're bent on "blaming" the fans for the backlash.

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ShadowHalo17
03/21/12 10:02:00 PM
#316:


I legit wouldn't be surprised if they actually had a great ending planned and then EA was like nah, do this instead. So that when all the fans are pissed, we can release the REAL ending for MORE CASHHHHHHH.

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ZFS
03/21/12 10:11:00 PM
#317:


I sincerely doubt EA had anything to do with it. It was Bioware's lead writer who's to blame.

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HeroDelTiempo17
03/21/12 10:17:00 PM
#318:


From what I hear the producer didn't want an ending that was too "video gamey." Which apparently means that an ending that's logically inconsistent and doesn't fit with the rest of the series' themes is a-ok.

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ShadowHalo17
03/21/12 10:21:00 PM
#319:


That's hard to believe, just because the game was pretty much perfect right until the very end. Where it just like... choked and died. I don't get how that could even happen.

Anyway, I'm thinking I want Miranda to die in the suicide mission as well. I always thought it was more difficult to get her to die though. I guess if I don't gain her loyalty it should be easy enough if I put her in a role. But then I wonder what it'll be like with Oriana in the third game. I'm sure they'll just offhand explain her. Or I could do Miranda's loyalty but side with Jack in their fight. Hmm... decisions.

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ShadowHalo17
03/21/12 10:22:00 PM
#320:


From: HeroDelTiempo17 | #318
From what I hear the producer didn't want an ending that was too "video gamey." Which apparently means that an ending that's logically inconsistent and doesn't fit with the rest of the series' themes is a-ok.


And this is a game that they even tried to mainstream by focusing more on the GAMING aspects. Which even included multiplayer.

Like... MAKE LESS F***ING SENSE WHY DON'T YOU.

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ShadowHalo17
03/21/12 10:25:00 PM
#321:


Hmm. Back to my Miranda point, the only way I can seem to kill her is if I place her in the vents instead of Jacob. Or if I send her back with the crew... which will only be Dr. Chakwas at that point. Will she still need an escort? If so, I think that could work out perfectly.

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futuresuperstar
03/21/12 10:27:00 PM
#322:


You can have Jacob go in the vents and Miranda lead the crew back. Both unloyal, both will die, and Chakwas will survive.

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baron von toast
03/21/12 10:28:00 PM
#323:


1. Ar tonelico
2. Metroid
3. Zeruda
4. Half-Life
5. Fire Emblem
6. Moss Affect

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ShadowHalo17
03/21/12 10:37:00 PM
#324:


Oh man it's so nice going to the galaxy map and not hearing Kelly blab away about stupid s*** I don't care about.

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ZFS
03/21/12 10:52:00 PM
#325:


"I could have had Joker sing to you over the com..."

"I hate you."

"I hate you...?"

"Sir."

"As you were, Williams."

A++

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ShadowHalo17
03/21/12 10:58:00 PM
#326:


The only time Ashley has ever been worth anything.

Which is more than I can say for Kaidan.

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ZFS
03/21/12 10:58:00 PM
#327:


Ashley been pretty awesome so far! Top 3, for sure.

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Murphiroth
03/21/12 11:02:00 PM
#328:


ZFS posted...
"I could have had Joker sing to you over the com..."

"I hate you."

"I hate you...?"

"Sir."

"As you were, Williams."

A++


Awesome moment. James talking about it afterwards is pretty funny, too.

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LeonhartFour
03/21/12 11:04:00 PM
#329:


Ashley's better this time around for sure.

But then again so is nearly everyone else so she still ends up at the bottom!

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ShadowHalo17
03/21/12 11:05:00 PM
#330:


From: ZFS | #327
Ashley been pretty awesome so far! Top 3, for sure.


...I literally can not even believe someone could have this opinion. I would put every single crew member in ME3 alone above her and Kaidan.

Anyway this is the first time I actually bothered to really talk to all the Admirals in Tali's loyalty mission. Zaal'Koris intrigues me the most. Not at first, because he was disapproving of Tali. But then after talking to him (along with Legion's input), well... this is the first time I've ever been inclined to agree with someone over Tali.

And his ship name is Qwib Qwib. Asking him about it is hilarious.

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ZFS
03/21/12 11:06:00 PM
#331:


Let's see... I'm in the middle of the Quarian-Geth situation right now, but rankings so far: Garrus > EDI > Ashley > Tali > Liara > Vega.

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LeonhartFour
03/21/12 11:07:00 PM
#332:


The best part is that his ideas of ship names he'd rather have are penis jokes.

Admiral Zaal'Koris vas Iktomi

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LeonhartFour
03/21/12 11:09:00 PM
#333:


Also how do you play Mass Effect without talking to everyone you can?

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Murphiroth
03/21/12 11:12:00 PM
#334:


LeonhartFour posted...
Also how do you play Mass Effect without talking to everyone you can?

This. Even if you don't like them you should still be talking to them so you don't miss anything.

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ShadowHalo17
03/21/12 11:14:00 PM
#335:


From: ZFS | #331
Ashley > Tali


I...

What?

That is the absolute worst opinion I have ever encountered in my entire life.

From: LeonhartFour | #333
Also how do you play Mass Effect without talking to everyone you can?


Most of the side dialogue never really meant much to me. But after playing ME3... well, I'm much more invested in all the dialogue I can get in ME2 now.

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ZFS
03/21/12 11:16:00 PM
#336:


That's based entirely on ME3, where Tali hasn't had much opportunity to do anything. She was top 2 in ME1/2.

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ShadowHalo17
03/21/12 11:19:00 PM
#337:


I'm guessing you didn't romance her then.

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PartOfYourWorld
03/21/12 11:23:00 PM
#338:


I think the only people I didn't talk to were the other Quarian Admirals. They're just pretty boring. I might be the only person here who reps the Geth over em though.

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ShadowHalo17
03/21/12 11:25:00 PM
#339:


I actually did speak to most of the admirals before. But I think I always stopped before really getting into depth conversations with Zaal'Koris. He was always the last one you get to, and at that point the rest didn't really have anything interesting to say so I was just in a hurry to get on with the mission.

But with Legion around I needed to make sure I got everything I could out of it.

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ShadowHalo17
03/21/12 11:30:00 PM
#340:


So what happens in ME3 if Tali was exiled? I'll never find out for myself but I'd like to know.

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TheRock1525
03/21/12 11:32:00 PM
#341:


She becomes the Exile in KotOR 2.

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ShadowHalo17
03/21/12 11:32:00 PM
#342:


But the Exile was a male so that doesn't fit.

Revan was also a male don't you start with me Rock.

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PartOfYourWorld
03/21/12 11:33:00 PM
#343:


Exile is canonically female, IIRC.

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ShadowHalo17
03/21/12 11:35:00 PM
#344:


That's what people say, but there is no official canon to it as far as I'm concerned.

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PartOfYourWorld
03/21/12 11:41:00 PM
#345:


Btw, the most "anti-ending" option is winning the poll now. ME3's ending really is in a tier of its own.

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TheRock1525
03/21/12 11:42:00 PM
#346:


ShadowHalo17 posted...
That's what people say, but there is no official canon to it as far as I'm concerned.

There is. The Old Republic confirms she is, indeed, a woman.

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baron von toast
03/21/12 11:44:00 PM
#347:


I know this is true of every poll ever, but I don't like the wording. They shouldn't redo the ending because the fans demand it; they should redo the ending because they ought to be embarrassed about the ending they gave us.

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ShadowHalo17
03/21/12 11:45:00 PM
#348:


From: TheRock1525 | #346
There is. The Old Republic confirms she is, indeed, a woman.


He was a man every time I played KotOR 2.

It just angers me that they would even try to add a "canon" option. I know it's technically part of a way bigger universe, but it's not like it matters all that much to the Star Wars EU either way.

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ShadowHalo17
03/21/12 11:45:00 PM
#349:


From: baron von toast | #347
I know this is true of every poll ever, but I don't like the wording. They shouldn't redo the ending because the fans demand it; they should redo the ending because they ought to be embarrassed about the ending they gave us.


Yes, yes. Very much this.

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TheRock1525
03/21/12 11:48:00 PM
#350:


I get the feeling that I'm going to finish up the game and go "this is what everyone is freaking out about?"

I mean, unless this is Other M bad, I'm going to be at worst disappointed in the ending.

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