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Procrastinater 03/26/12 11:02:00 PM #1: |
Because she was born a boy and had a sex change operation at 19. -- Procrastinater - So Good ~*Board 8 Late Night Crew*~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Menji76 03/26/12 11:03:00 PM #2: |
I still would.
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blindhobo13 03/26/12 11:03:00 PM #3: |
I bet she's still more attractive than at least half of the "real" girls.
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foolm0ron 03/26/12 11:05:00 PM #4: |
That's the best Canada could come up with?
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OctilIery 03/26/12 11:05:00 PM #5: |
That's a pretty offensive ruling there tbqh.
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KingBartz 03/26/12 11:06:00 PM #6: |
Really Joyrock? Someone who has been a woman for like two years should be eligible to represent all Canadian women?
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Liquid Wind 03/26/12 11:08:00 PM #7: |
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The Utility Man 03/26/12 11:09:00 PM #8: |
Fair Disqualification IMO.
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OctilIery 03/26/12 11:09:00 PM #9: |
KingBartz posted...
Really Joyrock? Someone who has been a woman for like two years should be eligible to represent all Canadian women? Someone who is a woman shouldn't be able to compete with other women? How long she has been a woman doesn't matter. -- Joyrock Fresh from my first justified ban. Ever! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WarThaNemesis2 03/26/12 11:12:00 PM #10: |
Rules clearly state must be natural-born female. She was not born a woman, ergo not eligible. I'm not seeing the offensive part of this.
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foolm0ron 03/26/12 11:12:00 PM #11: |
Someone who has a been a woman for 19 years is more qualified to represent all woman than one who has been one for 2 years?
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OctilIery 03/26/12 11:13:00 PM #12: |
WarThaNemesis2 posted...
Rules clearly state must be natural-born female. She was not born a woman, ergo not eligible. I'm not seeing the offensive part of this. ITT it being a rule makes discrimination less offensive. -- Joyrock Fresh from my first justified ban. Ever! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 03/26/12 11:15:00 PM #13: |
OctilIery posted... -- SEP Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! http://img.imgcake.com/stevenashgifpu.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Justin_Crossing 03/26/12 11:16:00 PM #14: |
From: StealThisSheen | #012 yes i had a dream when i came out of the womb but it will never be fulfilled -- ~Acting on Impulse~ Black Turtle still didn't MAJORA'S MASK ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OctilIery 03/26/12 11:18:00 PM #15: |
StealThisSheen posted...
OctilIery posted... ITT it being a rule makes discrimination less offensive. Do you find having to been born in the US to be President discriminatory More or less. Not offensive, but it is stupid. Then maybe the person who has been a woman for so long should win the competition. Being born a man doesn't giver her an advantage, so why should she not be allowed to compete? I don't think Foolmo was actually suggesting it was true. -- Joyrock Fresh from my first justified ban. Ever! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OctilIery 03/26/12 11:20:00 PM #16: |
KingBartz posted...
From: OctilIery | #017 StealThisSheen posted... OctilIery posted... ITT it being a rule makes discrimination less offensive. Do you find having to been born in the US to be President discriminatory More or less. Not offensive, but it is stupid. Ok, topic over I'd love for you to suggest how it isn't discriminatory. It fits the definition pretty damn well XD -- Joyrock Fresh from my first justified ban. Ever! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingBartz 03/26/12 11:20:00 PM #17: |
From: OctilIery | #017 Ok, topic over, nothing to see here -- SuperNiceDog? More like GuruNiceDog. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Liquid Wind 03/26/12 11:21:00 PM #18: |
Being born a man doesn't giver her an advantage
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Weakupedia 03/26/12 11:21:00 PM #19: |
i'd weigh in on this but then joyrock would just jump on me like a chihuahua to its owner's leg so i'm just gonna grab some popcorn
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thundersheep 03/26/12 11:22:00 PM #20: |
From: OctilIery | #017 My bad. This kind of stuff makes me rage for some reason. Sarcasm flies right over my head. -- http://soundcloud.com/thundersheep/lunatic-asylum http://soundcloud.com/thundersheep/summer-rain ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OctilIery 03/26/12 11:22:00 PM #21: |
Liquid Wind posted...
Being born a man doesn't giver her an advantage implants? Because clearly everyone there is all natural, guaranteed. Weakupedia posted... i'd weigh in on this but then joyrock would just jump on me like a chihuahua to its owner's leg so i'm just gonna grab some popcorn Only if you said something stupid :3 -- Joyrock Fresh from my first justified ban. Ever! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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captaincanadian 03/26/12 11:22:00 PM #22: |
this is pretty obviously discriminatory. they even could have avoided the controversy altogether if they had just not let her on in the first place with some generic excuse (competitive field, etc) and never referenced the whole gender issue. I think I heard that they knew when they let her on though and only disqualified her after some sort of activist outrage.
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thundersheep 03/26/12 11:22:00 PM #23: |
From: foolm0ron | #012 Then maybe the person who has been a woman for so long should win the competition. Being born a man doesn't give her an advantage, so why should she not be allowed to compete? From: WarThaNemesis2 | #011 Actually, no. There is no rule explicitly stating this. She's from Vancouver so I read the newspaper article about this today. -- http://soundcloud.com/thundersheep/lunatic-asylum http://soundcloud.com/thundersheep/summer-rain ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingBartz 03/26/12 11:22:00 PM #24: |
As well they should have
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StealThisSheen 03/26/12 11:22:00 PM #25: |
Anyway, I think the ruling is fair, but for a different reason: -- SEP Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! http://img.imgcake.com/stevenashgifpu.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OctilIery 03/26/12 11:23:00 PM #26: |
thundersheep posted...
From: OctilIery | #017 I don't think Foolmo was actually suggesting it was true. My bad. This kind of stuff makes me rage for some reason. Sarcasm flies right over my head. It's the internet, Sarcasm doesn't work so well most of the time :P -- Joyrock Fresh from my first justified ban. Ever! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thundersheep 03/26/12 11:24:00 PM #27: |
From: Liquid Wind | #020 Cosmetic surgery isn't against the rules either. -- http://soundcloud.com/thundersheep/lunatic-asylum http://soundcloud.com/thundersheep/summer-rain ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KingBartz 03/26/12 11:24:00 PM #28: |
This person is a M2F Transgender. You can't have your cake and eat it.
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OctilIery 03/26/12 11:25:00 PM #29: |
KingBartz posted...
This person is a M2F Transgender. You can't have your cake and eat it. There's no legitimate reason to disqualify her over it, bottom line. -- Joyrock Fresh from my first justified ban. Ever! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FFaddict1313 03/26/12 11:26:00 PM #30: |
Rules were clearly stated before she entered. Changing them mid-contest would be unfair and would make a joke of the contest's competitive integrity.
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KingBartz 03/26/12 11:26:00 PM #31: |
Well I'm not going to change your mind, so instead I'll go to sleep.
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OctilIery 03/26/12 11:27:00 PM #32: |
FFaddict1313 posted...
Rules were clearly stated before she entered. Changing them mid-contest would be unfair and would make a joke of the contest's competitive integrity. Rules were clearly offensive. The fact that they were rules doesn't change anything. -- Joyrock Fresh from my first justified ban. Ever! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OctilIery 03/26/12 11:29:00 PM #33: |
KingBartz posted...
Well I'm not going to change your mind, so instead I'll go to sleep. Have fun being mad about this! Have fun being wrong :3 -- Joyrock Fresh from my first justified ban. Ever! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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foolm0ron 03/26/12 11:29:00 PM #34: |
From: StealThisSheen | #015 Technically it's discriminatory It's perfectly reasonable and a good rule, but it is discriminatory -- _foolmo_ 'Ulti is like when your parents post something on your facebook status' - Sir Cobain ... Copied to Clipboard!
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iiicon 03/26/12 11:31:00 PM #35: |
Is there a rule that states undergoing plastic surgery renders a contestant ineligible? If so, I don't have a problem with this, but if surgically enhanced women are allowed into the contest I don't see why someone who identifies their gender as female shouldn't be allowed to participate.
From: thundersheep | #027 oh. kinda sucks for her, then! -- ICON: When there's nothing left to burn, you have to set Bidoof on fire. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OctilIery 03/26/12 11:31:00 PM #36: |
foolm0ron posted...
From: StealThisSheen | #015 Do you find having to been born in the US to be President discriminatory Technically it's discriminatory It's perfectly reasonable and a good rule, but it is discriminatory I don't know how reasonable I'd call it tbqh. I think requiring full US citizenship, and a minimum period of living is more than acceptable, especially if it allows someone to get voted in who has the support of American voters. -- Joyrock Fresh from my first justified ban. Ever! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AdditionalPylon 03/26/12 11:31:00 PM #37: |
I'm sure they don't let men or hermaphrodites compete either. It's their competition, and they want it to be between people who are biologically women, I don't really see the problem here. It's unfortunate for her, but I imagine she didn't disclose the information from the start and it's obviously something that could raise either interests or concerns.
Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against transgendered people, but when you're running a contest for one gender you shouldn't be obligated to include them, and I'm sure she couldn't have been naive enough to think that it wouldn't matter to the people running the competition. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scotted4 03/26/12 11:32:00 PM #38: |
good
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Justin_Crossing 03/26/12 11:33:00 PM #39: |
i wouldn't let her compete in the olympics as a woman
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OctilIery 03/26/12 11:34:00 PM #40: |
AdditionalPylon posted...
I'm sure they don't let men or hermaphrodites compete either. It's their competition, and they want it to be between people who are biologically women, I don't really see the problem here. It's unfortunate for her, but I imagine she didn't disclose the information from the start and it's obviously something that could raise either interests or concerns. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against transgendered people, but when you're running a contest for one gender you shouldn't be obligated to include them, and I'm sure she couldn't have been naive enough to think that it wouldn't matter to the people running the competition. Biology should have nothing to do with it. Of someone identifies themselves as a Woman, they have a place in the contest. It's offensive because it's basically saying you have no place being compared to other women. Once again: It being a rule does not stop it from being offensive. And for the record, if a man could actually compete(successfully) I'd certainly support him. Same for Hermaphrodites. -- Joyrock Fresh from my first justified ban. Ever! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WarThaNemesis2 03/26/12 11:34:00 PM #41: |
I just find it funny that someone who didn't mind at all competing in a competition that outright banned women is mad that she's not allowed in a contest that bans non-women.
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StealThisSheen 03/26/12 11:35:00 PM #42: |
To clarify what I meant in my last post -- SEP Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! http://img.imgcake.com/stevenashgifpu.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Liquid Wind 03/26/12 11:35:00 PM #43: |
AdditionalPylon posted...
I'm sure they don't let men or hermaphrodites compete either. It's their competition, and they want it to be between people who are biologically women, I don't really see the problem here. It's unfortunate for her, but I imagine she didn't disclose the information from the start and it's obviously something that could raise either interests or concerns. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against transgendered people, but when you're running a contest for one gender you shouldn't be obligated to include them, and I'm sure she couldn't have been naive enough to think that it wouldn't matter to the people running the competition. it's still really ****ed up for them to DQ her midway through the competition. if you define woman as someone who lacks Y chromosome's then I can understand that, but she should have been denied entry in the first place then ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Wanglicious 03/26/12 11:37:00 PM #44: |
came into topic going "how the hell does that happen, did she have balls or something."
then read first post. then clicked pics. pretty good job there. but i'm totally in favor of this ruling. if you're miss universe, never having a set seems like like a good criteria to me! -- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LOLContests 03/26/12 11:37:00 PM #45: |
The American president having to be born in America is to prevent a foreign power from interfering in America's affairs. Regardless of whether or not it's still necessary, it's not just there to ban foreigners because Americans don't like them.
Having a rule stating that the Miss Canada/Universe participant can't be a fully post-op transgender person does not appear to serve any purpose other than banning transgender people because the organization doesn't like them. -- My bracket wasn't good enough to beat SuperNiceDog's in the GameFAQS Rivalry Rumble. Congrats! This is Yesmar. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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iiicon 03/26/12 11:38:00 PM #46: |
From: StealThisSheen | #042 Transgender isn't a gender identity! -- ICON: When there's nothing left to burn, you have to set Bidoof on fire. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OctilIery 03/26/12 11:39:00 PM #47: |
StealThisSheen posted...
To clarify what I meant in my last post She just recently finished a pageant where she identified strictly as a transgender person, not a female, because the pageant was for transgender people only. Now she's saying she identifies strictly as a female to get into a female only pageant. She just got done identifying as a transgender person to take part in a discriminatory pageant... To then change what she identifies as "most" to get into another discriminatory pageant, and is basically complaining when it didn't work. Like, I'm not even getting into whether the rule is fair or not. What she did just seems... Eh. The thing is, the transgender pageant isn't really discriminatory. It's a competition within a minority, which is PART of the larger majority(Women). A competition which excludes an otherwhise eligible minority is discriminatory. A competition made specifically for a minority is NOT discriminatory. -- Joyrock Fresh from my first justified ban. Ever! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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foolm0ron 03/26/12 11:39:00 PM #48: |
From: OctilIery | #040 Oh, okay, biology shouldn't have anything to do with a beauty contest that only cares about how good your genes make you look Makes sense to me -- _foolmo_ 'Illegal activities is a slight misnomer, most of it is not related to material that is actually illegal.' - nintendogrl1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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StealThisSheen 03/26/12 11:40:00 PM #49: |
iiicon posted... -- SEP Nash, Smelling Like the Vault since 1996 Step FOUR! Get Paid! http://img.imgcake.com/stevenashgifpu.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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foolm0ron 03/26/12 11:41:00 PM #50: |
From: OctilIery | #047 Come on, everyone Look at who you are arguing with -- _foolmo_ 'Illegal activities is a slight misnomer, most of it is not related to material that is actually illegal.' - nintendogrl1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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