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04/25/12 12:10:00 PM
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http://www.destructoid.com/thank-christ-xbox-live-to-feature-even-more-advertising--226444.phtml

You wanted it, Microsoft's bringing it! In the new future, the Xbox Live service that you paid for will be using your patronage to score even more money off of advertisers! More TV-like commercials will soon be airing on a number of Xbox Live applications, with 15-30 second spots breaking up your entertainment.

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04/25/12 12:11:00 PM
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ugh

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The Mana Sword
04/25/12 12:12:00 PM
#3:


Does anyone even use those apps.

Besides the ESPN one.

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ZFS
04/25/12 12:14:00 PM
#4:


Ads are definitely the worst thing about XBL. The new dashboard is a mess because of it. Sucks they're going to take that to the next level and start throwing them into apps.

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Ayuyu
04/25/12 12:15:00 PM
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Thank you based Microsoft! I've waited for this update forever.

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foolm0ron
04/25/12 12:16:00 PM
#6:


Well they need ads to keep Xbox Live free





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Ayuyu
04/25/12 12:19:00 PM
#7:


The sub fee is so stupid tbqh, it has been proved times and times again that server costs are negligible nowadays.

Simple ads probably make them more than enough money to pay for this crap.

They're so greedy.

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04/25/12 12:38:00 PM
#8:


The best part is knowing that somewhere, some fanboy is defending this decision.

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Jeff Zero
04/25/12 12:40:00 PM
#9:


This is... this is just... this is because, like, they gotta, um, if it, if they don't then it's Xbox Dead

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Punnyz
04/25/12 12:41:00 PM
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it doesn't matter. Its stupid that they're being greedy but its not like the ads pop up on your face when you log in or when you try to do anything else

they're just...there. and if you know what you're gonna do, they shouldn't bother you

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Weakupedia
04/25/12 12:42:00 PM
#11:


wow lol

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tee316
04/25/12 12:46:00 PM
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I only use Netflix, so hope that is not one of the ones they will do this with.
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TheRock1525
04/25/12 12:47:00 PM
#13:


Yeah, this is pretty lame.

Not deal-breaking lame but lame nonetheless.

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OctilIery
04/25/12 12:56:00 PM
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I came in to possibly defend this.

Then I remembered the sub fee.

Which is why I stopped playing XBL.

wtf Microsoft.

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JDTAY
04/25/12 1:02:00 PM
#15:


I can't believe people actually pay for this.

PSN > all

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hideto
04/25/12 1:12:00 PM
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Wait, does this mean that if you use Hulu Plus on Xbox 360 that you'll be paying for both services and getting ads from both at the same time?
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TheRock1525
04/25/12 4:00:00 PM
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JDTAY posted...
I can't believe people actually pay for this.

PSN > all


Except when it's getting shut down and all your information stolen.

Like me.

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VincentLauw
04/25/12 4:05:00 PM
#18:


I too stopped playing XBL because of the fee

it's not a big one but it's still completely stupid. Every once in a while I pay for a month or something when I get a new game but that's it.


I hope next gen they'll realize that free network is the way to go

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StealThisSheen
04/25/12 4:36:00 PM
#19:


This would bug me if the ads actually got in the way of... Anything.



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Rad Link 5
04/25/12 4:37:00 PM
#20:


Yessss, more ads! Thank you, Microsoft! I was sad when ads stopped showing up in my PSN games, so I'm glad you're picking up the slack! Well worth the yearly subscription fee.

From: VincentLauw | #018
I hope next gen they'll realize that free network is the way to go


Unlikely with the rumors of PS3 online multiplayer being locked behind a subscription next gen.

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MrGreenonion
04/25/12 4:53:00 PM
#21:


I'd be mad if they put this in Netflix. I mean there I'm paying an Xbox Live subscription fee AND a Netflix subscription fee, so putting in commercials on top of that would be pretty asinine.

But I wouldn't get TOO mad, I'd just watch Netflix on PS3 instead.

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MZero11
04/25/12 5:00:00 PM
#22:


From: TheRock1525 | #017

Except when it's getting shut down and all your information stolen.

Like me.


PSN is free so you don't need to put any info in there, imagine that!

Also, XBL has been shut down before iirc.

From: MrGreenonion | #021
I'd be mad if they put this in Netflix. I mean there I'm paying an Xbox Live subscription fee AND a Netflix subscription fee, so putting in commercials on top of that would be pretty asinine.

But I wouldn't get TOO mad, I'd just watch Netflix on PS3 instead.


Don't forget that your also already paying for internet service! You need 3 subscriptions just to watch Netflix on 360, how ridiculous is that.

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Rad Link 5
04/25/12 5:16:00 PM
#23:


If we're counting ISPs in this, you need at least two subscriptions to watch Netflix anywhere.

How ridiculous. You should all cancel your subscriptions immediately.

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OctilIery
04/25/12 5:30:00 PM
#24:


Rad Link 5 posted...
Yessss, more ads! Thank you, Microsoft! I was sad when ads stopped showing up in my PSN games, so I'm glad you're picking up the slack! Well worth the yearly subscription fee.

From: VincentLauw | #018
I hope next gen they'll realize that free network is the way to go
Unlikely with the rumors of PS3 online multiplayer being locked behind a subscription next gen.


First those are only rumors, second the rumors would be that online would be required, not that multiplayer would be pay to play.

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DpObliVion
04/25/12 5:34:00 PM
#25:


So you pay for XBL and you get ads, PSN is free and there are no ads? Heh.


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PartOfYourWorld
04/25/12 5:36:00 PM
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Stop being such entitled gamers.

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Rad Link 5
04/25/12 5:51:00 PM
#27:


From: OctilIery | #024
First those are only rumors, second the rumors would be that online would be required, not that multiplayer would be pay to play.


You are talking about entirely different rumors.

lol joyrock

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OctilIery
04/25/12 5:53:00 PM
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Rad Link 5 posted...
From: OctilIery | #024
First those are only rumors, second the rumors would be that online would be required, not that multiplayer would be pay to play.
You are talking about entirely different rumors.

lol joyrock


I'm talking about the only one around that has any weight to it.

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redrocket
04/25/12 6:02:00 PM
#29:


This is almost like how you have to pay for cable TV and then they still have the nerve to show commercials.

Boycott cable.

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Rad Link 5
04/25/12 6:22:00 PM
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lol joyrock

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MZero11
04/25/12 6:27:00 PM
#31:


From: redrocket | #029
This is almost like how you have to pay for cable TV and then they still have the nerve to show commercials.

Boycott cable.


No. It's like if you have to pay for cable AND ON TOP OF IT pay for a channel (HBO, Starz) and still have commercials.

I don't have those channels so idk if they have commercials but if they do they're just as stupid.

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OctilIery
04/25/12 6:28:00 PM
#32:


MZero11 posted...
From: redrocket | #029
This is almost like how you have to pay for cable TV and then they still have the nerve to show commercials.

Boycott cable.
No. It's like if you have to pay for cable AND ON TOP OF IT pay for a channel (HBO, Starz) and still have commercials.

I don't have those channels so idk if they have commercials but if they do they're just as stupid.


HBO has a couple commercials in between shows for their own shows, but that's it. They never show non-first party ads, and they never interrupt a show for it.

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Paratroopa1
04/25/12 6:32:00 PM
#33:


I stopped using XBL a long time ago. There are two things I will accept:

1) Paid subscriptions, no ads.
2) Free, but with ads.

If XBL was free, I would not be thrilled but I know money has to be made somewhere. This is just greed, pure and simple, and people are too weak to stand up to it.

Paid subscriptions that still include heavy advertising will never earn my patronage. Ever.
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StealThisSheen
04/25/12 7:14:00 PM
#34:


It's less that people are "too weak to stand up to it" and more "people just don't care because the ads don't actually get in the way of anything but a few apps that nobody uses."



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MrGreenonion
04/25/12 7:21:00 PM
#35:


speaking of xbox video apps of limited appeal

where the **** is my twitch.tv app microsoft

i mean come onnnn

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TheRock1525
04/25/12 7:59:00 PM
#36:


PSN is free so you don't need to put any info in there, imagine that!

Except I made purchases of DLC on PSN and it's a bit of a pain in the ass to remove and put on your credit card for each and every purchase. Not to mention they didn't even encrypt your credit card. At least XBL does that.

Also, XBL has been shut down before iirc.

Down on occasion? Sure. Just like PSN has as well. But PSN was down for nearly a month. It was so bad that they insisted that you contact the three major credit companies to protect your credit file.

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Sfandi
04/25/12 8:02:00 PM
#37:


Glad I don't deal with this stupid s*** on PSN
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OctilIery
04/25/12 8:19:00 PM
#38:


Not to mention they didn't even encrypt your credit card.

Yes, they did.

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ZFS
04/25/12 8:31:00 PM
#39:


The ads on XBL just make the dashboard a mess to navigate and find things. PSN has definitely come out ahead recently.

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FL81
04/25/12 8:35:00 PM
#40:


PC master race

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MZero11
04/25/12 9:11:00 PM
#41:


From: TheRock1525 | #036
PSN is free so you don't need to put any info in there, imagine that!

Except I made purchases of DLC on PSN and it's a bit of a pain in the ass to remove and put on your credit card for each and every purchase. Not to mention they didn't even encrypt your credit card. At least XBL does that.

Also, XBL has been shut down before iirc.

Down on occasion? Sure. Just like PSN has as well. But PSN was down for nearly a month. It was so bad that they insisted that you contact the three major credit companies to protect your credit file.


Just buy a gift card for PSN at Gamestop, Walgreens, hell I think Circle K has them? That's what I do and guess what, no worries! Also Joyrock is right they were encrypted.

And XBL was down for like several weeks in late '07- early '08 I believe

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StealThisSheen
04/25/12 9:28:00 PM
#42:


I think the point Rock is making is that you shouldn't HAVE to worry about having to buy a card or delete your info.



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TheRock1525
04/25/12 10:35:00 PM
#43:


StealThisSheen posted...
I think the point Rock is making is that you shouldn't HAVE to worry about having to buy a card or delete your info.

Also, I have to pay sales tax on PSN cards, so it costs me not only the money in gas to go pick up said card, but then I have to pay taxes.

But yeah, by all accounts the PSN hack made getting info super easy because they didn't encrypt anything. Obviously, there's some level of risk when you put your credit card anywhere online, but PSN allowed for an elevated risk.

Also, Xbox Live didn't fully go down, but it was suffering outages for about 2 weeks in 2008.

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foolm0ron
04/25/12 10:36:00 PM
#44:


From: OctilIery | #038
Yes, they did.


No they didn't

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TheRock1525
04/25/12 10:37:00 PM
#45:


Also, I was confused: passwords were what wasn't encrypted:

On Tuesday, April 26 we shared that some information that was compromised in connection with an illegal and unauthorized intrusion into our network. Once again, we’d like to apologize to the many users who were inconvenienced and worried about this situation.

We want to state this again given the increase in speculation about credit card information being used fraudulently. One report indicated that a group tried to sell millions of credit card numbers back to Sony. To my knowledge there is no truth to this report of a list, or that Sony was offered an opportunity to purchase the list.

One other point to clarify is from this weekend’s press conference. While the passwords that were stored were not “encrypted,” they were transformed using a cryptographic hash function. There is a difference between these two types of security measures which is why we said the passwords had not been encrypted. But I want to be very clear that the passwords were not stored in our database in cleartext form. For a description of the difference between encryption and hashing, follow this link.

To reiterate a few other security measures for your information: Sony will not contact you in any way, including by email, asking for your credit card number, social security number or other personally identifiable information. If you are asked for this information, you can be confident Sony is not the entity asking. When the PlayStation Network and Qriocity services are fully restored, we strongly recommend that you log on and change your password. Additionally, if you use your PlayStation Network or Qriocity user name or password for other unrelated services or accounts, we strongly recommend that you change them, as well. To protect against possible identity theft or other financial loss, we encourage you to remain vigilant, to review your account statements and to monitor your credit reports.

We continue to work with law enforcement and forensic experts to identify the criminals behind the attack. Once again, we apologize for causing users concern over this matter.

Our objective is to increase security so our customers can safely and confidently play games and use our network and media services. We will continue to provide updates as we have them.


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ZFS
04/25/12 10:37:00 PM
#46:


Personal info was lost, yeah. Credit cards were encrypted, though. Hacks happen on all systems, though, the 360 included. There was a big thing about it a while back, too.

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TheRock1525
04/25/12 10:38:00 PM
#47:


'All of the data was protected, and access was restricted both physically and through the perimeter and security of the network,' Sony said in a statement. 'The entire credit card table was encrypted and we have no evidence that credit card data was taken.

'The personal data table, which is a separate data set, was not encrypted, but was, of course, behind a very sophisticated security system that was breached in a malicious attack.'


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ZFS
04/25/12 10:39:00 PM
#48:


That doesn't make it okay or anything, just in case someone tries to read it that way.

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TheRock1525
04/25/12 10:41:00 PM
#49:


Oh yeah, I've been hacked on both accounts so I've been double unlucky in that sense.

I got my money back with Xbox Live. PSN, not so much.

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WazzupGenius00
04/25/12 10:45:00 PM
#50:


From: MrGreenonion | #035
speaking of xbox video apps of limited appeal

where the **** is my twitch.tv app microsoft

i mean come onnnn


twitch works on PS3 browser!

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