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User728
05/07/12 4:04:00 PM
#101:


From: Forceful_Dragon | #100
Hawkeye "defeats" hulk:




Is it this?


I knew that was going to be linked.
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EmDubyaSee
05/07/12 4:04:00 PM
#102:


From: Forceful_Dragon | #100
Hawkeye "defeats" hulk:




Is it this?




No, I'm trying to find it right now, that was the first thing that came up fpr me too, I laughed....ALOT.


(That or Derek txting me back)

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UberPyro64
05/07/12 4:04:00 PM
#103:


Didn't Batman defeat the entire Justice League once?

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EmDubyaSee
05/07/12 4:05:00 PM
#104:


From: MarvelousGerbil | #095
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Batman could find Kryptonite, steal it from Lex Luthor, etc. Also, still not telling us WHEN Hawkeye beat Hulk. Dodging a question makes anyone seem like they don't know what they're talking about.

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Automated defense system that attacks from 360 degrees.




That could work, I don't know if he'd be able to use his spidey sense to not get stopped by it.

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User728
05/07/12 4:07:00 PM
#105:


From: EmDubyaSee | #104
That could work, I don't know if he'd be able to use his spidey sense to not get stopped by it.


We could all concoct something that "could work". Let's not think up wacky/zany ways for Batman to never lose. Let's instead use some brainpower and look at who will likely win based on objective criteria.
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LordoftheMorons
05/07/12 4:10:00 PM
#106:


If we can think up a way for Batman to win, you can be sure he would think of it too. Expecting a normal human like Hawkeye to beat Batman is ridiculous.

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Forceful_Dragon
05/07/12 4:10:00 PM
#107:


reading the youtube comments on the laughing video someone is saying that it has happened 3 times in the comics. Doesn't mention which ones though.

"He defeated the Hulk about 3 times in the comics. The comics I've read at least."

"a) He teamed up with Spiderman who was a martial arts fan at the time. Spiderman told him about a move that was done with 5 hits to the legs, arms and finally chest and would slow the heart's beat, resulting in the Hulk being human again. Hawkeye was left with 4 arrows left,he successfully hit his targets,and Spidey delivered the final move by strongly punching Hulk's chest.b) He fired an arrow with an adamandium edge that contained the Hulk's cure even though he was shot in his shoulder before."

"c) He fired 6 arrows in a closed dark room that filled the room with gas also containing the Hulk's cure. Yes, a lot more complex than the previous but he didn't have an adamandium arrow back then."


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User728
05/07/12 4:10:00 PM
#108:


Forget the Hulk...Hawkeye apparently defeated The Collector. Game over, Batman. You can "figure out" your own funeral! MUAHAHAHAHA!
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User728
05/07/12 4:11:00 PM
#109:


From: LordoftheMorons | #107
If we can think up a way for Batman to win, you can be sure he would think of it too. Expecting a normal human like Hawkeye to beat Batman is ridiculous.


And then I thought of a way for Hulk to smash Batman's plans before they come to fruition. If I can come up with something for Hulk to smash, you can be sure he would come up with smashing it too.
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tereziWright
05/07/12 4:13:00 PM
#110:


From the way you are arguing about this the biggest impression I'm getting is that you think Hawkeye would beat Batman because Batman is "too mainstream" for you.

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Forceful_Dragon
05/07/12 4:14:00 PM
#111:


With regard to Hulk v. Hawkeye I found this:

"It sounds to me like they're inspiring a scene based on the scene in Mark Millar's Ultimates when Hawkeye used an adamantium tipped arrow to sedate Hulk and revert him back into Bruce"


I haven't read Ultimates. Can someone confirm this?

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User728
05/07/12 4:16:00 PM
#112:


From: tereziWright | #110
From the way you are arguing about this the biggest impression I'm getting is that you think Hawkeye would beat Batman because Batman is "too mainstream" for you.


Yes. It has nothing to do with Hawkeye's pinpoint accuracy and his high tech arrows, or the fact that Batman's only argument is a completely loaded one that can be used to put an end to any debate one could possibly conjure up. It's because he's mainstream.
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EmDubyaSee
05/07/12 4:17:00 PM
#113:


Batman vs SSJ4 Gogeta.


BATMAN FINDS A WAY.

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tereziWright
05/07/12 4:19:00 PM
#114:


Oh.

ULTIMATE comics.

OK.

Black Widow kicked Hawkeye's ass once in Ultimate comics.

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Forceful_Dragon
05/07/12 4:20:00 PM
#115:


From: tereziWright | #114
Black Widow kicked Hawkeye's ass once in Ultimate comics.






Spoilers?





She kicked his ass in the movie too..

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EmDubyaSee
05/07/12 4:20:00 PM
#116:


From: tereziWright | #114
Oh.

ULTIMATE comics.

OK.

Black Widow kicked Hawkeye's ass once in Ultimate comics.




But apparently only 1 was in Ultimates according to the last post. And it doesn't matter anyway,he beat the god damn Hulk, he is not losing to Batman.

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KommunistKoala
05/07/12 4:21:00 PM
#117:


He beat the hulk by sedating him in all three situations

This is the exact same thing batman did to superman

this argument is beyond pointless

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EmDubyaSee
05/07/12 4:22:00 PM
#118:


From: KommunistKoala | #117
He beat the hulk by sedating him in all three situations

This is the exact same thing batman did to superman

this argument is beyond pointless




Except Hawkeye did it of his own accord and powers, and Batman could not have without assistance in the past from the guy he "beat"

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tereziWright
05/07/12 4:23:00 PM
#119:


From: EmDubyaSee | #118
Except Hawkeye did it of his own accord and powers, and Batman could not have without assistance in the past from the guy he "beat"


Batman's got a s*** ton of Kryptonite he got on his own. One for every color of the rainbow!

And I did not know that generating Hulk antidote was one of Hawkeye's powers.

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KommunistKoala
05/07/12 4:24:00 PM
#120:


Depends where he got the cure from. If he made it himself, then sure I guess he did it through his own "powers"

the first situation explicitly had spiderman assisting him

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EmDubyaSee
05/07/12 4:24:00 PM
#121:


Also, he beat him by his high tech weaponry and pinpoint accuracy and crazy agility so he could not be hit. You know, the same thing he would use to put one specialized arrow though Batman and end him.

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Forceful_Dragon
05/07/12 4:25:00 PM
#122:


From: EmDubyaSee | #118
Except Hawkeye did it of his own accord and powers, and Batman could not have without assistance in the past from the guy he "beat"




I don't typically agree with MWC, but he is making sense >_<''


My ONLY question is that if we assume Supes had NOT given batman some insurance kryptonite, would he have made it a priority to find some himself?

It's all good to say that "batman only one because supes help him" because that much is true. But it is also moot if it is logical that batman would have gone to great lengths to acquire his own insurance kryptonite had some not been gifted to him.

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EmDubyaSee
05/07/12 4:25:00 PM
#123:


From: KommunistKoala | #120
Depends where he got the cure from. If he made it himself, then sure I guess he did it through his own "powers"

the first situation explicitly had spiderman assisting him




Only because he had 4 arrows left. Does anyone here believe if he did not have 5 arrows left he does not hit the other target?

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KommunistKoala
05/07/12 4:26:00 PM
#124:


He wouldn't have known about these weakpoints either if it were not for spiderman

do you read anything.

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tereziWright
05/07/12 4:27:00 PM
#125:


Where are people getting this idea that Batman would only have kryptonite if Supes gave it to him?

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KommunistKoala
05/07/12 4:30:00 PM
#126:


From: tereziWright | #605
Where are people getting this idea that Batman would only have kryptonite if Supes gave it to him?

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it's mwc

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EmDubyaSee
05/07/12 4:31:00 PM
#127:


From: KommunistKoala | #124
He wouldn't have known about these weakpoints either if it were not for spiderman

do you read anything.




I read it, I just don't find the foreknowledge part that important. I don't believe anyone makes the Spiderman argument if not for Spidey getting the fifth hit, and again, if Hawk had 5 arrows, he would have.

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Forceful_Dragon
05/07/12 4:31:00 PM
#128:


Oh but on topic.

After seeing the midnight showing I managed to catch the movie twice more during the open weekend. Taking different people with me each time who probably would NOT have gone without my prompting. I think we were all so impressed with the movie that the 'word of mouth' effect was greatly magnified. In addition to seeing it the two extra times myself I got 9 other people who would not have seen it during opening weekend to go. I can't be the only person who immediately turned to my friends and said "you HAVE to see this movie do NOT wait".

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tereziWright
05/07/12 4:31:00 PM
#129:


From: KommunistKoala | #126
it's mwc


True.

I really need to stop arguing with joke accounts.

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LordoftheMorons
05/07/12 4:32:00 PM
#130:


Batman's always prepared to deal with his friends! See: Infinite Crisis

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EmDubyaSee
05/07/12 4:32:00 PM
#131:


From: tereziWright | #125
Where are people getting this idea that Batman would only have kryptonite if Supes gave it to him?

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Now, I don't claim to have a Master Knowledge of DC (pretty much just Flash, and only so you idiots quit giving GameFAQs Flash **** he can't actually do). But I know that other colors of Kryptonite have other powers and strength. That was the last piece of Green in the world, that seems to be relevant, especially since it was the Green he used.

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tereziWright
05/07/12 4:34:00 PM
#132:


From: EmDubyaSee | #131
Now, I don't claim to have a Master Knowledge of DC (pretty much just Flash, and only so you idiots quit giving GameFAQs Flash s*** he can't actually do). But I know that other colors of Kryptonite have other powers and strength. That was the last piece of Green in the world, that seems to be relevant, especially since it was the Green he used.


I want you to look behind Batman in that picture.

Very closely.

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User728
05/07/12 4:39:00 PM
#133:


That picture still doesn't change the fact that Superman would rip Batman to shreds and that anyone can beat Superman if they have kryptonite handy on them. That doesn't reflect how well Batman would do against anyone other than Superman.
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tereziWright
05/07/12 4:41:00 PM
#134:


Kryptonite isn't actually a big deal to Superman anymore.

Batman did beat Darkseid. Got blasted through time in the process, but still.

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EmDubyaSee
05/07/12 4:41:00 PM
#135:


From: tereziWright | #132
I want you to look behind Batman in that picture.

Very closely.




Holy ****.


Ok, yeah.

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User728
05/07/12 4:46:00 PM
#136:


From: tereziWright | #134
Kryptonite isn't actually a big deal to Superman anymore.

Batman did beat Darkseid. Got blasted through time in the process, but still.

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So the EXACT same situation as the kryptonite example, except that this one has the added bonus of also being against an enemy who was already "wounded beyond repair"?
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tereziWright
05/07/12 4:47:00 PM
#137:


It's Darkseid.

Minutes from death Darkseid would erase the Hulk from existence with zero effort applied.

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User728
05/07/12 4:53:00 PM
#138:


From: tereziWright | #137
It's Darkseid.

Minutes from death Darkseid would erase the Hulk from existence with zero effort applied.


A Darkseid that was "wounded beyond repair" and who was hit with the Darkseid equivalent of Kryptonite. Put the same crap inside one of Hawkeye's arrowheads, wound Darkseid beyond repair, and Hawkeye can do the exact same thing.
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TheOceIot
05/08/12 9:06:00 AM
#139:


Ha, it appears as though the inital estimates of $200.3 million were off. The movie made $207.4 million.

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yoshifan823
05/08/12 10:11:00 AM
#140:


In my magical dream world where everything good happens, both Amazing Spider-Man and TDKR beat The Avengers, and Spider-Man goes on to be the highest grossing movie of all time.

I mean, Spider-Man makes money, and so does Emma Stone. Combine the two, and we have a winner, right?
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EmDubyaSee
05/08/12 10:17:00 AM
#141:


From: yoshifan823 | #140
In my magical dream world where everything good happens, both Amazing Spider-Man and TDKR beat The Avengers, and Spider-Man goes on to be the highest grossing movie of all time.

I mean, Spider-Man makes money, and so does Emma Stone. Combine the two, and we have a winner, right?




Literally NO CHANCE anymore. It had at least a punchers chance when it was "only" 200 million. But TDKR is not bringing in 210 Million. Or 40 million more than god damn Harry Potter.

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MZero11
05/08/12 10:44:00 AM
#142:


When you argue with MWC a box office topic turn into a debate about Batman vs Hawkeye

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most_games_r_ok
05/08/12 1:54:00 PM
#143:


Well this topic ended up being not so great.

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yoshifan823
05/08/12 5:23:00 PM
#144:


EmDubyaSee posted...
From: yoshifan823 | #140
In my magical dream world where everything good happens, both Amazing Spider-Man and TDKR beat The Avengers, and Spider-Man goes on to be the highest grossing movie of all time.

I mean, Spider-Man makes money, and so does Emma Stone. Combine the two, and we have a winner, right?


Literally NO CHANCE anymore. It had at least a punchers chance when it was "only" 200 million. But TDKR is not bringing in 210 Million. Or 40 million more than god damn Harry Potter.


I love how you pick out Batman, as if there's a chance that Spider-Man makes it.
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15_and_counting
05/08/12 5:32:00 PM
#145:


yoshifan823 posted...
EmDubyaSee posted...
From: yoshifan823 | #140
In my magical dream world where everything good happens, both Amazing Spider-Man and TDKR beat The Avengers, and Spider-Man goes on to be the highest grossing movie of all time.

I mean, Spider-Man makes money, and so does Emma Stone. Combine the two, and we have a winner, right?


Literally NO CHANCE anymore. It had at least a punchers chance when it was "only" 200 million. But TDKR is not bringing in 210 Million. Or 40 million more than god damn Harry Potter.

I love how you pick out Batman, as if there's a chance that Spider-Man makes it.


I dont think Spidey is even in the discussion, and I would be stunned if it was top 15 even, let alone #1.
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MrGreenonion
05/09/12 6:41:00 AM
#146:


I don't think DKR has a shot at beating this. Dark Knight had Joker Hype, DKR doesn't have anything on that level. As a movie it seems more comparable to Batman Begins, and I expect it to perform closer to that, but a bit better because Nolan Batman is more popular now.

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